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Everton: Talking the Talk
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Kharkiv spirit can keep Euro dream alive - David Moyes
Away days suit us fine - Leon Osman
Everton in the best shape to beat Standard Liege - Phil Neville
Stand up and be counted - Tim Howard
Let's not allow Everton Euro bid to die - Tim Howard
Everton players but their 'balls on the line' - Phil Neville
Everton will come back fighting - Phil Jagielka
Nowhere near good enough. Overrated players. Overrated manager. Route one football. An embarrassment.
Craig Walker, Posted 03/10/2008 at 13:14:43
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They should have kept their big gobs firmly shut if that pathetic display is "putting their balls on the line" Has anyone ever seen anything as wimpy as that performance.
Agreed Patty Beesley.
Fair enough Craig, we wanted more, we wanted to win, it wasn’t good enough, but I don’t think you’re reference to route one football rings true to last night.
Fair enough Craig, we wanted more, we wanted to win, it wasn’t good enough, but I don’t think you’re reference to route one football rings true to last night.
Patty,
How about saying fúck all?
They are paid to play football, not to be media whores and spin merchants on a complete wind-up of the fans!
How about saying fúck all?
They are paid to play football, not to be media whores and spin merchants on a complete wind-up of the fans!
Patty,
How about saying fúck all?
They are paid to play football, not to be media whores and spin merchants on a complete wind-up of the fans!
How about saying fúck all?
They are paid to play football, not to be media whores and spin merchants on a complete wind-up of the fans!
GOT IT IN ONE, CRAIG
Patty. I don’t tend to disagree with fellow Evertonians and I’m not starting an argument. However, I am a damn sight better at my job that the likes of Phil Neville will ever be. I don’t get paid an obscene amount of money for it either. I also don’t inundate my colleagues/boss with empty platitudes which I can’t back up. When will people stop apologising for performances which aren’t good enough? Arteta is a good player. I like him a lot. If I hit the first man with my dead ball deliveries as a pure amateur I’d be hauled off or someone else would be taking the corners. I wouldn’t mind if the team were all local lads who tried to play good stuff and they were giving their all but weren’t quite good enough. I do mind when average players speak rubbish all week and then don’t show up on the pitch. That is unacceptable when thousands of Everton fans have travelled across the continent to support them.
Ah Ciaran, that would be a nice world but unfortunately the one we live in demands our "stars" to give interviews or they may well be castigated by the press. I agree that most of them are lucky brain dead muppets who should keep their mouth shut or take their example from Big Dunc and refuse to give interviews............However then we would have fans complaining that the players are actiing like primadonnas and not keeping us updated with their benal news.
Craig, I’m sorry mate but unless you are a professional footballer, you cannot compare how good you are at you job to that of Neville or any other footballer.
It also shows the contradictions of the moaners, one in another thread was having a go at Moyes for not lumping it up at their doodgy keeper, now you are saying that they were.....which one was it?
Craig, I’m sorry mate but unless you are a professional footballer, you cannot compare how good you are at you job to that of Neville or any other footballer.
It also shows the contradictions of the moaners, one in another thread was having a go at Moyes for not lumping it up at their doodgy keeper, now you are saying that they were.....which one was it?
I have just watched Everton V Luton Town on ESPN classics, semi final we won 2-1 in Extra time, ok I know its history etc, but just listing to the post match interviews and Jimmy big Chin Hill, and it just makes it all the more fucking heart breaking the way we are now, Jimmy Hill "we have just watched not only the best team in England but argubely the best team in Europe" top of the league, Cup final and ECWC final. Do I ever think a pundit will ever repeat them words in my life time? I am afraid not and I am 43. Nearly 14 years without a cup or a final, and I just dont see Moyes breaking that duck, with his style of play, we have some decent players who are just being stiffled by Moyes and his brand of football, percentage passes, no movement, inability to keep possesion and do any damage in the final 3rd, interviews dont come into this, its about playing football and competing.
Tony. I take your point. What I’m really comparing is how good the current Everton players think they are in their interviews to how good they actually are. They aren’t as good as they think they are and some of us fall for it.
After watching the Liege game & seeing another piece of our season crumble to dust, i cant believe what crap im reading on the official website. quote from our 5m waste of space:
"Leighton Baines says confidence is growing amongst the Everton ranks."
(is this guy for real or does 40k a week soften the blow?)
"The defender, recalled for the 2-1 defeat to Standard Liege, reckons the performance in that game holds promise for the Blues."
(I must have been at another game? or maybe Baines was refering to playing Fifa08 on his PS3 that night?)
"Although it ended in defeat and European elimination, some of the possession football the Toffees played was closer to that which was on display last season."
(Possession football?...does that mean get so far up the field then pass back to a defender?)
"We were speaking on the plane coming home amongst ourselves and a few of us said that we feel much better," said Baines.
(awww sweet eh....hope he slept well...poor luv)
Meanwhile, its us poor fools who spend a large chunk our our hard earned cash, hoping, praying & willing the team on to ultimately travel home depressed
Thanks Bainsy...i appreciate your comments!!
"Leighton Baines says confidence is growing amongst the Everton ranks."
(is this guy for real or does 40k a week soften the blow?)
"The defender, recalled for the 2-1 defeat to Standard Liege, reckons the performance in that game holds promise for the Blues."
(I must have been at another game? or maybe Baines was refering to playing Fifa08 on his PS3 that night?)
"Although it ended in defeat and European elimination, some of the possession football the Toffees played was closer to that which was on display last season."
(Possession football?...does that mean get so far up the field then pass back to a defender?)
"We were speaking on the plane coming home amongst ourselves and a few of us said that we feel much better," said Baines.
(awww sweet eh....hope he slept well...poor luv)
Meanwhile, its us poor fools who spend a large chunk our our hard earned cash, hoping, praying & willing the team on to ultimately travel home depressed
Thanks Bainsy...i appreciate your comments!!
A few points to comment on here
1 - The players don’t offer interviews, the press / media demand them. If you are fed up of reading about their benal comments blame the media not the players. This is from the same group of people who complain if nobody says anything all summer!
2- What exactly do you expect the players to say - ’I think we are crap and going to get tonked tonight’ - hardly fills you with optimism does it.
3- You criticise baines comments on possesion football about getting so far up field then passing back to a defender - then complain about hoofball - you can’t do both at the same time you know so pick which one you’d like to moan about!
4- Lay off Phil Neville, why does he always have to be the scpaegoat for everybody, ok he’s not Kaka but then he’s never claimed to be, whereas if you believe the hype - Arteta, Lescott, Cahill etc are some of the best in the country - well I didn’t see much of that last night. Pip gave his best - the fact that his best can’t win us a game single handed is not something to blame him for when other better players didn’t perform.
5-I was vaguely encouraged by last night - although we lost, that was mainly down to the first leg result not the performance last night. I can see signs of optimism of things to come - especially against sides who don’t stick 10 players behind the ball for 90 minutes
1 - The players don’t offer interviews, the press / media demand them. If you are fed up of reading about their benal comments blame the media not the players. This is from the same group of people who complain if nobody says anything all summer!
2- What exactly do you expect the players to say - ’I think we are crap and going to get tonked tonight’ - hardly fills you with optimism does it.
3- You criticise baines comments on possesion football about getting so far up field then passing back to a defender - then complain about hoofball - you can’t do both at the same time you know so pick which one you’d like to moan about!
4- Lay off Phil Neville, why does he always have to be the scpaegoat for everybody, ok he’s not Kaka but then he’s never claimed to be, whereas if you believe the hype - Arteta, Lescott, Cahill etc are some of the best in the country - well I didn’t see much of that last night. Pip gave his best - the fact that his best can’t win us a game single handed is not something to blame him for when other better players didn’t perform.
5-I was vaguely encouraged by last night - although we lost, that was mainly down to the first leg result not the performance last night. I can see signs of optimism of things to come - especially against sides who don’t stick 10 players behind the ball for 90 minutes
Funny thing. No hoofball and still the moaners find all sorts to complain about.
Dean Adams - NO HOOFBALL: first few minutes last night we pass it around aimlessly; then, going nowhere, Lescott gets the ball & what does he do with his first touch? Launches it towards their corner flag !
Craig - I?d missed those pre-match quotes from Howard. Perhaps he could change it to ?stand up & save that tame penalty that's coming slowly straight at me.?
Craig - I?d missed those pre-match quotes from Howard. Perhaps he could change it to ?stand up & save that tame penalty that's coming slowly straight at me.?
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