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Will longevity guarantee success?

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The Kenwright PR machine known as TalkSport carried a piece this morning in which David Moyes was quoted as saying that comments by Sir Bobby Robson had persuaded him to put pen to paper on THAT contract. Apparently, money had nothing to do with it and love for his "People's Club" wasn`t mentioned. No, it was the noble knight's assertion that longevity alone could guarantee success.

As ever, Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger were trotted out as the exemplars of this creed alongside Sir Bobby's ten years with Ipswich. Ability, nouse, foresight, tactical awareness didn't get a mention for apparently it's all about "sticking with your man." After all, look what other long-serving managers such as Sam Allardyce, Alan Curbishley and even dear old Dario Gradi achieved during their decade or more in the same job!

So as we look forward to another five years with `The Moyesiah`(don't hear him called that these days!), can we be certain that success is just around the corner? Will Our Davey turn out to be a Fergie and conquer the Prem and Europe or just a Big Sam who "does well with what he's got to work with"?

I guess, under the present ownership, it has to be the latter and however critical we are about Davey, we find it difficult to come up with a replacement who would do any better. On the other hand, he bores me rigid, has all the tactical insight of Walter Smith and the charisma of a kitchen top. But in the present circumstances he's a safe pair of hands who will have everybody's hero, Captain Phil, alongside him throughout his extended tenure!

But will time-serving alone transmute him into a managerial genius? I think not... But then, it depends what you mean by success. I suspect it will require both a change of ownership and a very different manager to bring that back to Everton!
Brian  Noble, Ince Blundell     Posted 06/10/2008 at 10:57:09

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Mal Stevens
1   Posted 06/10/2008 at 15:03:03

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Well as least Blue Bill has ensured his blood brother?s pension fund is well topped off before he sells the shop. I?d bet all the tea in China (and India) that Moyes gets a pay-off within months of new owners coming in.
Until then, yawn...yawn....
Ciarán McGlone
2   Posted 06/10/2008 at 14:40:07

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The closing line of your article is about as spot on as your can get.
Richard Dodd
3   Posted 06/10/2008 at 15:31:46

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A typical Nobby piece. When most Evertonians are rejoicing at the news that Davey?s pen is poised, all he can do is cast aspersions on our Chairman and Manager. I believe we are in very good hands and if Blue Bill can find some fellow investors, Moysey will get a real opportunity to take the club to that coveted ?next level?.
Tony Pickering
4   Posted 06/10/2008 at 15:54:09

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Never responded to any of your comments before Richard, and until lately I was a Moyes supporter. But come on, ?most Evertonians? ?good hands? ?next level??
I fear that DM has failed in the majority of his big buys - Beattie? Johnson? Krøldrup? Yak seems to be going downhill (please let me be wrong), Fellaini is far from impressive, though has time to settle yet. Moyes has had money and only used it with sporadic wisdom.

If any investor trusts Moyes with vast sums of money I sadly do not believe he will buy players that will fit into his way of playing, and they will end up as shadows of their previous selves.

Our manager has done well in the lower range of purchases (Cahill, Lescott, Jagielka) but has not inspired any belief that he can mould better players into his ethos.

Moyes did well to get us through the early years of this century, but, we need better players to progress so either DM should change his ethos or find another club. I believe Mr Moyes is incapable of changing his ethos and hence I no longer believe DM can take us to the next level.

Yours, a saddened former believer.

Ciarán McGlone
5   Posted 06/10/2008 at 16:19:03

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I wouldn?t trust Moyes with a tuck shop fund, nevermind £100 million of this club's money.
Alex Mather
6   Posted 06/10/2008 at 16:23:49

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I suspect ?most Evertonians? fear that the Kenwright will rue the day Moyes puts pen to paper. I, too, think him to be a saviour of teams rather than a manager who can work effectively at the top level. His best buys have been unknowns or lower league players and his big money ? Yak excepted ? have been disasters. Simply an over-achiever now being found out!
Stephen Stuart
7   Posted 06/10/2008 at 16:53:49

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Well, according to Phil Neville on Sky today, he signed for Everton because of David Moyes. (Maybe that?s how he?s got his 4-year contract extension.) Neville also went on to talk of the success that Moyes has brought to the club (stop laughing) so just think how much more success we can have if Moyes signs this bloody contract??

Sounds really exciting.... so much so I will have to sit down..... I have this vision of the pair of them, Moyes and Neville, running, hand in hand, through sunlit summer fields extolling each others virtues and the pleasure they experience from avoiding relegation by one point... it?s quite sick isn?t it?? Some success... they don?t ?arf talk bollocks at Everton. I agree entirely with your last sentence.
Moyes out
Neville out
Kenwrong out

John Taylor
8   Posted 06/10/2008 at 17:01:34

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You wouldn?t trust Moyes with the tuck shop money and his big money buys have been disasters?

Who are his ?big money? buys? Johnson? Hardly a disaster... And he was sold for a profit. Yakubu? top-drawer striker. The best finisher at the club for years (I realise you ?excepted? him. but that?s a little convenient isn?t it ?).

Fellaini. The biggest of the lot? Is he a disaster? After half a dozen games? That is patently not true and shows a complete lack of understanding of the game. The lad needs time.

Who are the others? Beattie and Krøldrup. Both poor buys, but name a manager who hasn?t made a bad buy in his career. Richard Wright? Yep, a piss poor player, but no less than Arsene Wenger paid £5m plus for him, so he must be a shite manager as well.

Never mind the likes of Cahill, Arteta, Howard, Lescott, Jagielka, Yobo, Pienaar.....

Just accentuate the negatives, eh? Why bother.
Richard Harris
9   Posted 06/10/2008 at 17:12:27

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Richard Dodd wrote " When most Evertonians are rejoicing at the news that Davey?s pen is poised, all he can do is cast aspersions on our Chairman and Manager. I believe we are in very good hands and if Blue Bill can find some fellow investors, Moysey will get a real opportunity to take the club to that coveted ?next level?."

So when Moyes signs his contract then that?s when our season really starts!! Or does our season start at Arsenal? Or at home to Manchester United? That cunning duo of Kenwright and Moyes! Lulling other clubs into a false sense of security with no clean sheets since playing Derby last season and letting the other teams win in two ?worthless? Cup competitions.

Now I know that we will be guaranteed a top 4 place after giving all the other teams a head start otherwise why would we have started so badly. Watch the replays again and see our trusty defenders deliberately watch the ball rather than the opposing players, our midfield misplace passes to allow the opposition to take advantage and how our forwards don?t get into goalscoring positions often enough. Arteta has perfected the corner not clearing the first defender. Genius!! A masterstroke of tactics from Moyes.

When we cruise up the league, to the astonishment of all around us, Kenwright and Moyes will be carried on a wave of emotion from Goodison to Kirkby by the joyful and faithful masses that will be whipped into a frenzy by Richard Dodd and his cohorts. All hail the conquering Moyes and cast down the dissenters.......

Stephen Stuart
10   Posted 06/10/2008 at 19:41:00

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Richard Harris - you?ve excelled yourself! Well done! Give that man a pie :0)
rich jones
11   Posted 07/10/2008 at 13:22:36

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Richard "nobby piece" I think thats a bit rich. I havnt read one comment from you EVER that wasnt "nobby".

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