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Moyes Signs On Dotted Line

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Love him or loathe him, Davey has signed a new five year contract. Well at least with "the uncertainty" of the manager's commitment now sorted, time to step up to the plate lads and start behaving like players fit to wear the our beloved shirt.
Declan Burke, Ireland     Posted 14/10/2008 at 19:32:07

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Michael Kenrick
At long last... the Dithering is Over! And let's also please have an end to the discussion of potential replacements for him. There aren't going to be any... at least in the short-term... and perhaps for as much as the next FIVE YEARS...

Five more years of Hoofball!!! Maybe I'll learn to love it by then...

Graham Nolan
1   Posted 14/10/2008 at 19:45:16

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With the official site reporting that Moyes has signed a new 5 year deal let us hope that the uncertainty in the team's play ends with the uncertainty surrounding the team's play on the pitch.

Personnally, I am glad Moyes has signed on for anther 5 years. There is nobody I can think of who would (A) be willing to come to Everton & (B) do better with the current squad. I am now expecting a big performance and result against Arsenal (who have been shaky) at the weekend.

Paul Lynch
2   Posted 14/10/2008 at 20:00:42

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Finally we can put all the debating to bed. After a long 4 months Davey Moyes has finally singned along the dotted line and secured a new 5-year contract. "Get in there" ....
Terry Smith
3   Posted 14/10/2008 at 20:45:23

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Could this mean that there is imminent takeover or big cash available in the next window? As I am led to believe that he would not sign unless he was reasured of this!
Brian Noble
4   Posted 14/10/2008 at 20:13:26

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Well at least some of the natives are happy! But the rest of us don't know whether to laugh or cry. I guess those in the former group will be laughing at the naivity of Bill Kenwright whilst the others will be crying for the future of Everton FC. Whilst I can't say I share the views of Tony Marsh, I do have grave reservations about David Moyes and was rather hoping he'd see his contract out whilst the club took stock of his genuine achievements.

Another year of steady progress ? say top eight ? might have justified a three-year deal but five bloody years on £70k a week is plainly ridiculous.

I know Blue Bill will have been anxious to secure his 'blood brother's future but his first responsibility is to Everton ? not just to one of its employees. Now whoever comes in is stuck with an iffey manager and a massive pay-off if he wants rid. So whilst they are all downing pints in the Winslow to the good fortune of David Moyes, I hope they will just spare a thought for the long-term future of our club and realise it`s us who will have to pay the price for his elevation to multi-millionaire.

Duncan McDine
5   Posted 14/10/2008 at 20:45:40

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It's a relief to me and I would expect the same kind of reaction from most Evertonians... not gonna do kartwheels, but it?ll settle a few nerves in the squad as well as the stands.

Michael... we?ve played better football under DM?s management than any Everton side since the late 80s to early 90s when the wheels fell off. Let's hope he can keep steadily improving our great club.
John Taylor
6   Posted 14/10/2008 at 20:47:48

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Terry,

Who "led you to believe" that?

You?re suggesting that Moyes now dictates who the club?s owners should be? You?re seriously suggesting that Moyes said to him employers, "I?ll sign but as long as I don?t have to work for you any more"?

That is a ludicrous premise. Absolute nonsense.
Tommy Coleman
7   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:05:42

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Perhaps we can change the song we sing for him:
"Davey Moyes, Davey Moyes, Davey Davey Moyes, he?s won no trophies but we don?t care, Davey Davey Moyes.
Art Greeth
8   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:07:16

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Anybody else enjoying the mini-derby on the net???

0-2 down after an hour, we’ve just taken the lead 3-2. Cracking game...
Joeynkoo Ludden
9   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:11:53

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Thank fuck for that. I was worried, given the current economic disaster, about affording things like trips to wembley and european shannighans (translation: disappointments), but at least now thats one less thing to worry about.

Another 5 years of when we win, Moyes is a God, when we lose, it’s not his fault.
Art Greeth
10   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:22:19

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In spite of the ref finding six minutes of injury time from somewhere, a great 3-2 win for the reserves... and some folk have had a good stab on Betfair. Obviously when the poo were winning 2-0, a nine quid was bet on Everton to win at £210.00... that?s gotta hurt!!!
Stephen Stuart
11   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:41:11

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Oh, shit!!!!........... well, that?s it...... I?m off..........
Tony Williams
12   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:47:54

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See you then, Ste.
Andy Crooks
13   Posted 14/10/2008 at 21:39:33

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Why five years? It now means that any new owner will be unable to radically change our style of play without forking out huge compensation. I think it merely confirms my view that there isn?t going to be any new owner. It?s more of the same I?m afraid.

I really can?t understand how any Evertonian can be overjoyed by the news. A year ago I never would have believed that I would feel like this. Never mind European shenanigans, Joeynkoo, I?ll settle right now for Premier League football next season..

Martin Handley
14   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:12:42

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I will reserve judgement on this. But I can?t say I?m too happy about him getting the contract.

On the takeover, this Keith Harris says he?s very optimistic on finding a buyer and there?s usually no smoke without fire.

Karl Jones
15   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:11:22

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Everton equalise (2-2) in the mini derby and are understandardly celebrating on the way back to kick-off. Liverpool are encouraged by the ref to kick-off before Everton have even begun to line -up and nearly score from this.

In all the time that I have watched football I?ve never seen something like this in a professional match. Is the fact that it is live on LFC TV something to do with this?
As Art Greeth says the ref plays 6½ minutes injury time despite there not being any lengthy stoppages.

God help us when this gobshite of a ref starts in the Prem. Even John Durnin said he was a red and they?d just lost.
Anthony Newell
16   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:26:27

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Orville would probably do a better job in all honesty

A few seasons ago I?d be elated by this news but not now. After getting spanked by Arsenal & Man Ure we can settle back into the full Moyes modus operandi for another 5 years. Knocked out of cup competitions we should progress in, capitulations in the Derby, no-shows against the Sky 3, you fucking name it.

Sorry but 5 years is madness for a manager who has led us into a season as ill-equipped as we have been then fucking sulked and said were not ready to win Premier League games. I?ve had enough of it personally and I know I?m not alone. Everton?s set up needs dismantling from top to bottom and starting again ? manager and chairman included. Come on Keith Harris, find someone quick to save us from this fucking misery.

Iain Thomson
17   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:47:36

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I dont understand at all... during a terrible run of form and style of play, we offer 5 years on huge money. The new owners, if they ever appear, will be unable to make a change without forking out a huge compensation payout.

To get 12 yrs at a prem club nowadays is based on winning. I think we have stagnated, a change would do us good, but that's not happening... I'm gutted.
Yusuf Bobat
18   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:44:37

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It?s a dark day for the future of Everton FC, 5 more years of hoofball, no wingers, no midfield, no creativity and no tactical nous. £3 mill a year for someone who?s never won a major honour ... absolutly shocking, good work if you can get it.

Broken-hearted blue!!!
Iain Thomson
19   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:53:04

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Heres one for the stat geeks out there... Is there any other manager in European football who has never won anything who is on £3.5 million a year?
Anthony Dyer
20   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:47:56

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What if DM signing actually swings the deal for EFC in getting a new owner?

Moyes may not be to everyone?s taste but you can?t really doubt his honesty (mostly) regarding the events as they happened. I?d rather have him here trying to make us great again than helping one of our rivals. I?m sure that he knows where he has made mistakes and will work hard to put them right. I don?t expect the club will be sold until at least next summer, especially with the ground move facing problems.

What David has to do now is revert back to realising that his team is not as good as they think they are and not as bad as some fans believe them to be. Even Howard Kendall?s first target of any season, including the halycon days, was to achieve top-flight football for the following season. So Moyes must do the same get those 40 points asap, then see where the rest of the season takes us.

Iain Thomson
21   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:59:27

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He advocates punting the ball upfield when under no pressure. To be payed the wages of an elite manager when thats how team play is mental. And who evern gets 5-year deals anymore...
Keith Glazzard
22   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:56:17

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This means that there isn?t going to be a takeover ? unless it's by someone who doesn?t mind writing a some millions of quids worth of cheque to Mr Moyes (always possible) in the next few weeks or months.

Will it affect the players? Hope so.

Will it affect the style of play? That depends on how confident the players are about passing the ball to a team mate (look at that rabble called an England team). Again, hope so.
Jeff Leahey
23   Posted 14/10/2008 at 22:29:02

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Another 5 years of fabulous free-flowing football. Playing keep ball whilst toying with the opposition .Captain Neville barking out the bosses instructions to change the tactics of play whilst at the same time driving the midfield forward with power, speed and devastating through balls for the strikers.

I?m so looking forward to watching Tony Hibbert, under the watchful eye of David Moyes, develop into one of the country's finest attacking defenders. I won't be able to sleep tonight for excitement. For 70 grand a week, it seems like a bargain. I hope to high heaven it doesn?t turn into a nightmare.

Michael, like me, you like watching football ? sorry but you will never get to accept hoofball on a football pitch. I know because I've tried. At times, I've felt embarrassed for some of our players.

Robert Jones
24   Posted 14/10/2008 at 23:24:11

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??Could this mean that there is imminent takeover or big cash available in the next window? As I am led to believe that he would not sign unless he was reasured of this!??

If anything I?d say it?s the opposite mate.
Keith Glazzard
25   Posted 14/10/2008 at 23:14:00

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Dithering? A Tory term propagated by the Daily Mail applied to dour Scotsman Gordon Brown. Who now turns out to be the saviour of the capitalist system, civilisation as we know it (hopefully my pension) and the known universe.

Until the Old Etonians reissued the word dithering nobody in their right mind would have used it. Whatever Moyes and the board of EFC have been doing is opaque. Call it what you want.
Martin Evans
26   Posted 14/10/2008 at 23:28:17

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What is absolutely certain is that the days of "The Moyesiah", "The People?s Club" and all that crap are well and truly over. Moyes has shown himself to be a money grabbing bastard like all the rest of them and has been totally pre-occupied with his own deal when he should have been putting a team together.
Of course,if he strings a few wins together,he?ll be a fucking hero to all the doddies but if the team carries on as they have been doing we shall all be screaming for his head £17M regardless! The sooner somebody new comes in and pays him and the rest of Kenwright?s gang off the better.
Ben Atkins
27   Posted 14/10/2008 at 23:47:55

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If Moyes was such a ’money grabbing bastard’ then he wouldn’t have donated the £500k that he got out of Rooney’s book compensation to the former players foundation would he?

I’m glad he’s signed, just a shame it’s taken so long to sort out.
Brian Waring
28   Posted 14/10/2008 at 23:40:36

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James Mako, maybe we moan because it is another 5 years of predictable, boring, negative, trophyless, fucking hoofball! And the man has just been rewarded with a bumper pay out, to bring us this. I wonder how much ticket prices will go up next season, to pay his wages?
Steve Pendleton
29   Posted 15/10/2008 at 03:19:38

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I just hope that he realises that he can make a substitution before the 70th minute, if needed, over the next five years.

Unfortunately it’s a skill that has alluded him over his tenure so far.
Jay Campbell
30   Posted 15/10/2008 at 07:07:58

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5 more years of Neville, Osman and Hibbert!!

Boss!!!
John Andrews
31   Posted 15/10/2008 at 07:25:04

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Heaven help us all!
Chris Wilkins
32   Posted 15/10/2008 at 08:28:33

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A complete tragedy for EFC and Everton fans all over the world, completely gutted. You should?ve done the right thing and walked, Moyes, £17 million ffs, just fuck off!!!
Ciarán McGlone
33   Posted 15/10/2008 at 09:29:08

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I reckon the happiest man today will be Phil Neville... he?ll continue to be picked for midfield by our inept manager... and he can continue to pretend he actually knows how to play football.

Starting at Arsenal on Saturday...

I?m over the moon.
Steve Beck
34   Posted 15/10/2008 at 09:28:15

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Does this mean he will start playing fast flowing football on the deck and pick the correct players for the right positions? I hope so...
Sebastian St Clare
35   Posted 15/10/2008 at 09:08:06

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I fail to see how anyone can be displeased with the news that David Moyes has committed his future to Everton for another five years. When you consider what a perennial basket case the team had become before his arrival and the very respectable record since he was appointed, it beggars belief that people can be so sceptical.

OK, so we?ve won no trophies ? but don?t most of them go to the ?Big Borrow 4?, anyway? How can you possibly expect a club run on a comparitive shoestring as Everton is to compete? And as someone has pointed out on another thread only 3 ? yes 3 ? managers in our post-war history have managed to win a single trophy!

As for the serial hoof-ball allegations, I?m sure Moyes doesn?t send his players out to kick the skin off the ball as a specific tactic. But when you are having to make do with players not quite of top quality, it clearly makes sense to make sure ?they clear their lines?. Just remember how many goals we?ve conceded when the likes of Yobo, Jagielka and Neville have time to think and ?try and play it pretty?!

Needs must, I?m afraid, and with a net spend of less than Mrs Rooney?s shopping bill, Moyes has established a consistency of results which, in turn, have become a millstone around his neck. Given money for the very best players, I am sure he would choose to play differently.

It is, perhaps, unfortunate that we are unable to properly celebrate his re-signing because the team is currently in the dumps but in my view the blame for that lies in the Boardroom rather than on the training ground. Soon, I am sure, he will steady the ship and have Everton once more competing for a place in Europe.

Richard Harris
36   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:07:57

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Michael Kenrick wrote " Five more years of Hoofball!!! Maybe I’ll learn to love it by then..."

Or maybe we will have been ’hoofed’ into submission and accept this as the ’Everton Way’......
Pat Beesley
37   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:12:27

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Bet Davey signing really made Tony Marsh’s Day.
Pat Beesley
38   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:23:28

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I meant to add that it certainly made mine!
John Dawson
39   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:18:59

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On our run post the Clattenburg derby last year we played probably the best football I have seen in watching the Blues in 20 years. The 13 games streak (and the first half v Arsenal) with the 5-man midfield was fluid, slick and I was confident of winning every game. The players were fit and on form.

Of course we are gonna play hoofball when the crowd shits themselves every time the opposition attack. If in doubt .... etc... When we knock it about among the back four at nil-nil, everyone screams to go forward immediately and the players react. Capello is just about knocking that out of England.

Moyes has us play good footy when the opportunity arises but when the defence are shitting it, as they are now, it is safety first and if that means a big lump up the pitch then you have to get rid. Even Arsenal do this when in danger. We have the players, they just need to hit the form of last year and I'm sure Davey is the man to help them back. NSNO.

Alan White
40   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:30:14

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........and we get all that ’good footy’for only £63,461.53 a week. What a fucking bargain!
Ken Mallett
41   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:34:55

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Fuck me, Whitey, that?s only £63,000 a week more than they paid Catterick ? and he was a real manager!
I thought they would at least have taken inflation into account!
Georgina Fuller
42   Posted 15/10/2008 at 10:47:08

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SSN have been showing footage of the welcome Moysey got at his first match as manager. I wonder if the club have any plans to welcome the great news of his re-signing with a similar on-pitch presentation before the Man Utd game? I am sure he would get a tremendous reception.
Pat Mayo
43   Posted 15/10/2008 at 11:31:56

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Kenwright is all set to pull off a remarkable treble this season:
  1. Lumber the club with a manager?s contract the beneficiary is neither worthy of nor the club can afford.
  2. Finalise arrangements for the club to leave the City of Liverpool.
  3. See the team back in the bottom third of the Prem.
Then, no doubt, he?ll fuck off with with a juicy profit leaving some ill-fated foreigner to pick up the pieces.

Thanks a lot, Bill!

Ste Kenny
44   Posted 15/10/2008 at 11:51:09

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I'm willing to bet there are a lot of other clubs with aspirations of getting into the sky 4 who would be delighted with what Moyes can bring to the table.

People are upset that he hasn't really got us challenging the top 4. He is the reason we are anywhere near them in the fist place!!! IMO there is no other manager (Ferguson excepted) who could have pulled this club right out the shit, cos that's exactly where we were when he took over.

We haven't done it by playing nice football, I'll admit, but you play the cards your dealt and he was dealt Walter Smith's shit.

Over the last six years he has spent fuck all in comparison to most of the Premier League. I really believe the Moutinho?s of this world are the type of players he would like to sign if he could but the money just isn't there. He has cut his cloth accordingly ? something a good manager should do.

People who say he?s won fuck all, what makes you think we were good enough to win anything in the first place? Only clubs who have spent ridiculous amounts of money (with the odd exception) have won trophies over the past 5-7 years.

I think Moyes is the only manager who can keep Everton up towards the top end of English football on the current budget with the current shitty owner.

I'm delighted he has signed!!!
Robbie Muldoon
45   Posted 15/10/2008 at 12:35:57

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How is the money not there if we could afford £15 mill for Screech?
Bert Aslett
46   Posted 15/10/2008 at 13:05:51

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.....and a manager on £65,000 A WEEK!
Martin Hughes
47   Posted 15/10/2008 at 13:26:25

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Moyes signing the contract is good news: we have a decent manager for another 5 years; also this will be stepping or brokering link (if you like) for the takeover. Let's hope Kirkby gets kicked out now, and the new owners revevlop Goodison!
Tony Williams
48   Posted 15/10/2008 at 13:37:13

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"People who say he?s won fuck all, what makes you think we were good enough to win anything in the first place. Only clubs who have spent ridiculous amounts of money(wth the odd exception) have won trophies over the past 5-7 years"

Great point Ste, all the Moyes haters sounds as if we haven’t won anything because of him, not that we had/have a mediocre team with only a few good players.

Robbie, we afforded £15m for Screech because we didn’t pay anything like £15m upfront and we are on to to receive £10.5m for AJ, received £5.5 for Fadds and only paid for Saha, not a lot probably
Ron Burrow
49   Posted 15/10/2008 at 13:45:21

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It’s good to see so many Evertonians happy with our lot. A top half finish is about all most hope for these days and now we’re paying our manager a king’s ransom he should be able to guarantee that ,shouldn’t he?
As far as the stadium goes,who gives a fuck where it’s located as long -what did the City of Liverpool ever do for us ,anyway?And so it goes on the gradual diminuation of our standards and all this once great club ever stood for.I despair!
Anthony Hughes
50   Posted 15/10/2008 at 14:37:59

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Pat, Moyes signing made your day?? Christ! The words easily, and pleased spring to mind here!!!!
Kevin Jones
51   Posted 15/10/2008 at 13:34:17

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There must be something in the pipeline for a business, sorry club, like Everton to be willing to pay somebody £65,000 a week. If not for David Moyes to demand that amount of money, knowing full well the financial situation the club is in, is both ethically and morally wrong. A lot of people have good dialogue with there employees and I for one wouldn’t risk the well being of our company with outrages wage demands.


By the way if you put 17,000,000 into a calculator and turn it upside down it actually spells "greedy bastard".
Kenny Mair
52   Posted 15/10/2008 at 15:32:20

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Just heard Kenwright’s broker, Keith Harris say on Sky Sports that Moyes’re-signing brings a stability which is a major selling point ’although ’the need to re-develop or build a new stadium is a characteristic much different to the situation at Newcastle’. I bet BB wishes he’d made an effort to raise that paltry £30M for King’s Dock now!
Pat Beesley
53   Posted 15/10/2008 at 15:34:16

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Yes, Anthony it did make my day - I am "easily pleased" at the thought that I could visualise the faces of people like Harry Meeks, Tony Marsh etc - you know the moaners on this site who think they know it all!! Okay the football might not be of the quality passing kind that we would wish for all of the time, but they can play it and we have all seen it from them. Perhaps the mediocre boring defensive type of football we play sometimes does not warm the cockles of your heart, but if it grinds out a result and gives us 3 points then I am all for it. I am a young 68 who has been going to Goodison Park since I was 6. I have seen Players and Managers come and go. In today’s climate I think we do well to have a Manager who is as honest as the day is long, who has had very limited funds to spend compared to other Managers, and has seen the fantastic potential of players such as Lescott, Cahill, Jagieleka etc. and who has also made mistakes but then who hasn’t. Even ’great’ managers such as Sir Alex Ferguson, have all made "gaffes". It is rumoured that Mark Hughes is going to have 100 million to spend in the January transfer window. What chance does a Manager such as David have - I think he has done marvels with the limited amount of money he has had to spend.

Cheer up chuck - he is here for another five years - look at it this way, Captain Marvel was gien a 4 year contract and if you behave yourself, and keep the faith, you will have a Phil Neville free year.
Colin Potter
54   Posted 15/10/2008 at 16:25:58

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Patty,
If you saw the teams of the 40s 50s and 60s, you say you are satisfied with Moyes, No wonder this club is in a bloody mess. They were the School of Science in those days, in the here and now we are the "hoofballers" for Gods sake!!!

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