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What can we hope for by 2013?

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I see somebody described me a "a miserable old git" in a recent posting and I am sure my wife would endorse the sentiment without reservation! I have to admit that my spirits have not exactly been lifted this week with the news that we are 'stuck' with David Moyes for another five years. It's not that I don't recognise that the man has improved our situation no end (so don't feel it necessary to chronicle his 'achievements', PLEASE!), it's just that I find the man boring in the extreme and his brand of 'football' very similar to that on offer at my local Blue Square South club.

But Blue Bill has decided that "the devil you know" etc... and unless someone can find a king's ransom to pay him off, it's Moyesey 'til 2013. So what can we hope for by then? I suppose most people will answer "it all depends who owns us," and whilst that will have a big bearing on the situation, it's not as though Everton are the only club likely to have changed hands.

In the event that half the Premier League clubs are owned by billionaires, there is every reason to suspect we shall still be outside the top eschelon. I just do not see Moyes as having the perspicacity to sign the right blend of players of real quality whatever the funds available. And as for the tactics.....!

On the stadium front, I can only see us at a greatly improved Goodison Park or possibly in a shared stadium with our local rivals. I have always regarded Kirkby as a 'no-no' and my own local experience of Tesco planning failures has only re-inforced that view.

So, in a sense, I foresee my cup as being half full. I'm sure we'll have a more wealthy (and professional?) owner and positive we shalln't be stuck out in the sticks. On the other hand, I just don't see us as a force to be reckoned with where it matters ? on the field.
Harry  Meek, Worcester     Posted 16/10/2008 at 09:50:40

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Brian Waring
1   Posted 16/10/2008 at 15:52:47

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Harry, by 2013, still playing shite football and still nowhere close to a trophy, and Doddy still telling us how great Moyes is, and tenth is good.
Brian Noble
2   Posted 16/10/2008 at 15:57:25

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Just out of the play-off places in the Championship but after a good point at home against Colchester, Manager Neville is positive we?re on the right track. Blue Bill?s still searching 24/7 for an investor who will still let him play with the train set. We?ve settled into our new home at Wigan which we share with the Warriors since Whelan?s team went bust at the same time as JJB.
ps: Moysey retired to a castle in the Highlands three years ago with a £10M pay-off.
Kevin Jones
3   Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:36:40

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Shut up you miserable old git. Only joking count yourself lucky Harry, I got called a " Tree hugging Fanny" after the Derby match. Oh the joys of being an Evertonian
Alan Martin
4   Posted 16/10/2008 at 16:45:03

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Being serious, I?m confident that, with the right owner, we shall have made good progress. If Moyes can be supported to the tune of £30-40Mill a year then there?s no reason why he won?t establish us among the elite.

As far as the stadium is concerned, I?m hopeful Kirkby will get the go-ahead and that we will be well settled by then. The difficulty as I see it is getting things sorted out this season because I don?t think a team in 15th place playing in a shithole will attract too many bidders.

Mark Stone
5   Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:04:18

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"It?s just that I find the man boring in the extreme and his brand of ?football? very similar to that on offer at my local Blue Square South club"

Get the match much do you?
Sean Patton
6   Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:34:56

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We will be in the Champions League as Premiership winners and going for our fourth trophy in a row to follow up our FA, Uefa and Carling Cup victories playing like Brasil 1970 with the world's best striker Hallam Hope.
Trefor Griffith
7   Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:42:47

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Like Alan above, I?m far more concerned about this season than what will be happenning in 2013. If we get nothing from the next two games we could well be in the relegation spots and psychologically that?s a bad place to be. If we did get relegated, I can?t see any prospect of a buy-out and Nobby?s jokey response above might well come back to haunt him!

More I think about it... the less I want to think about it!

Richard Dodd
8   Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:50:03

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My thoughts precisely, Sean!
A case of ?Patton- Lust for Glory?, eh?
Mike Homfray
9   Posted 16/10/2008 at 17:57:46

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Whatever our view of Kirkby (and I voted Yes), redeveloping Goodison is an absolute non-starter ? that was clearly the first option everyone looked at, but it can?t be done. There just isn?t the room, short of moving the adjacent main road and knocking down half of the terraced housing nearby
Dave Wilson
10   Posted 16/10/2008 at 19:23:50

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Moyses with £30-40 million a year?

Imagine the likes of Krøldrup, Neville, Beatty, AJ and AVM all arriving in the season?
Mike Price
11   Posted 16/10/2008 at 20:05:30

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The PE teacher will still be shouting ?pass long?, ?hold? etc from the touchline, to players on £50k a week!!!... remember he was never good enough to play at that level.

He will still be signing fat, slow strikers, defenders that can?t head and midfielders that can?t run, for ridiculously inflated fees. Still playing dour, dull football with no tactical nous, lots of safety first dithering and no chance of any trophies.

The redshite must be laughing their collective arses off because we?ve just made their lives easier for the next 5 years too! You know I?m right... and yet so many support him... why? ...he?s a proven loser and supporting his mediocrity and singing his name has led to this nightmare contract. Well, just remember at the end of this shite season, that its partly your fault... you got what you asked for.

Jack Randell
12   Posted 17/10/2008 at 08:28:33

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Just coming out of administration and working off the ten points penalty in the Championship! Half of Goodison is roped off as not fit for habitation but there are rumours that Barry Fry might take us over and move the franchise to Peterborough.Councillor Bradley is working night and day to Keep Everton in our City.
Doddy says we should be grateful to Blue Bill for sticking it out with Davey until the banks took the trainset off him.
Jason Lam
13   Posted 17/10/2008 at 08:51:50

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David Moyes?s 3rd 5-year plan to take us to the next level?
Vic Walters
14   Posted 17/10/2008 at 09:23:31

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I suspect by the I shall be watching Prescot Cables ? with Marshy. I got lost the only time I went to the Tescodrome so thought fuck it, we?re only playing Bury!
JL Slap
15   Posted 17/10/2008 at 10:35:52

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With this many Mystic megs is it worth any of you coming to the match for the next 5 years!! Oh of course I forgot, you were all great Evertonians cos you were all there in the Glory Days of the 80s & if everyone on Web forums tell the truth then there must of been 10,000 blues at Oxford that night when Heath scored & saved Kendall's job!!!

If you are all the great blues you say you are, then support the fucking team and manager. Crticism is all well and good but some of you fuckers think that until the 90s that Everton we?re the most entertaining & succesful club EVER!!

A lot of you forget that it was 14 (ish) years before our FA Cup win in 84. That was in a day when the league & cups were a lot more winnable than they are now. And if you argue that point then your not worth getting into a football debate cos you frankly haven't got a fucking clue!!

And in response to this particular comment "I just do not see Moyes as having the perspicacity to sign the right blend of players of real quality whatever the funds available. And as for the tactics.....!"
Well the tactics seem to have broken the top four once before & we came every close last year & the general agreement was that it was a shortage of quality in the squad (caused by lack of funds available) that caused us to fall away later on!

So, yes we have had a shit start & yes our football this year has been a poorer quality than the last two years combined. That's football & there have been other factors but forget them as this doesn't fit your blinkered geordie view of football........
Den Cobb
16   Posted 17/10/2008 at 12:34:14

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Charming!
Tony Williams
17   Posted 17/10/2008 at 13:26:38

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Den, Charming...... but mostly true.
Derek Thomas
18   Posted 18/10/2008 at 04:52:10

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