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After all the talk, it's finally time to see exactly what our great manager is going to do to set the seal on this new era...
Jack Rodwell starts for Everton, with Neville on the bench and Wallace making up the numbers. For Arsenal, Theo Walcott is rested and that Wenger has two or three other absentees as well.
Tim Howard
Tony Hibbert
Phil Jagielka
Joleon Lescott
Leighton Baines
Jack Rodwell
Mikel Arteta (c)
Steven Pienaar
Marouane Fellaini
Leon Osman
Ayegbeni Yakubu
Subs: Nash, Neville, Valente, Gosling, Wallace, Saha, Vaughan
Match comments here...
Michael Kenrick, Posted 18/10/2008 at 13:51:20
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Can’t wait for Neville to come off the bench, turn the game, and grab the winner ;)
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Can’t wait for Neville to come off the bench, turn the game, and grab the winner ;)
LOL, 4-5-1 as predicted by just about everyone.
*shakes his head icon*
Moyes never learns. 4-3-3 would have given us a chance at glory (or at least, a draw, which would be very welcome and might just keep us out of the bottom 3 at the end of this month).
I?ll eat my hat if we get anything out of this game with a 4-5-1, and my my hat is very old and crusty. Does Moyes think that his old system hasn?t been sussed by absolutely every other team, or that he has more nouse about it than Wenger?
*shakes his head icon*
Moyes never learns. 4-3-3 would have given us a chance at glory (or at least, a draw, which would be very welcome and might just keep us out of the bottom 3 at the end of this month).
I?ll eat my hat if we get anything out of this game with a 4-5-1, and my my hat is very old and crusty. Does Moyes think that his old system hasn?t been sussed by absolutely every other team, or that he has more nouse about it than Wenger?
Get in Ossie!
How’s that hat tasting Jeremy...?
Not by Wenger it seems Jeremy, that was a great goal.
What, after 12 minutes?
Sheesh, its 90 minutes for a premiership match chaps. Wait and see.
Sheesh, its 90 minutes for a premiership match chaps. Wait and see.
So... let me get this right: you WANT Everton to lose just so you can come back and say: "I told you so..." ...?
We’ve already got something out of the game. Celebrate it.
We’ve already got something out of the game. Celebrate it.
FUCK ME!!!!!! Arteta just cleared 1st man with a corner!!!!
I’m a bit surprised to be honest that you chaps don’t understand what going 1-0 up after 12 minutes actually means.
Attempting to defend it for 78 minutes. Thats the style, isnt it?
Arsenal to win by at least 2 clear goals.
Attempting to defend it for 78 minutes. Thats the style, isnt it?
Arsenal to win by at least 2 clear goals.
Moysey signing his contract fired everyone up?
:)
HOWARD MIRACLE SAVE on Van Persie!! :)
:)
HOWARD MIRACLE SAVE on Van Persie!! :)
Of course I dont want us to lose. Of course I am celebrating the goal.
I am just realistic, too.
I am just realistic, too.
I don’t call you attitude realistic, Jeremy. I call it cynical and pessimistic.
If you’re actually watching THIS game, we are the better team and NOT sitting back and defending.
But that doesn’t conform to your ’realism’, does it...?
If you’re actually watching THIS game, we are the better team and NOT sitting back and defending.
But that doesn’t conform to your ’realism’, does it...?
We really are looking good. Much better than Arsenal.
We look determined and are breaking with players. Osman just went close again after a good run from the Yak....we are also passing, limiting the hoofball.
We look determined and are breaking with players. Osman just went close again after a good run from the Yak....we are also passing, limiting the hoofball.
I’m not too worried now.
I’ll be more worried if we’re 2-0 up!
We can’t defend 2-0 leads :(
I’ll be more worried if we’re 2-0 up!
We can’t defend 2-0 leads :(
See what happens, when you go and have a go? Only problem seems to be the defence again, sloppy.
Tim Howard is playing so much better today and Rodwell is having a good game as well
Justintv just turned off due to inactivity.
Someone got a better link to watch the game?
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http://www.justin.tv/directsports3 sound is a bit low but its ok
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Soooooooo close to 2-0....
Noooooooooo way this is boss this ftw van persie there ?????
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Cheers Art, thats the best one yet guys..
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Good stable stream on sopcast here:
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All these bell-ends commentating reckon Pienaar never meant that ball for the goal. Sour grapes or what? Looks like he meant to give it back to Osman to me but then I am biased.
Jagielka has been magnificent so far, Rodwell, Pienaar doing well too. We look more determined and with better focus than of late. Hope it can last for 90 minutes, forgotten what a clean sheet was like. Zaki - go on! I think this next 45 mins is going to have quite a bearing on my mood for the rest of the day, I can't stand the number of times the shite turn their match around while we throw ours away! COYB!
It was an excellently worked goal and the pace, wieght and direction of Pienaar’s pass to Osman was no accident.
We are looking very, very good all over the park.
We are looking very, very good all over the park.
Watching at 3.45 am in New Zealand..exiled Blue!
Howard looks confident today ....however Walcott on now!
COYB!!!!
Howard looks confident today ....however Walcott on now!
COYB!!!!
Bugger! next 10 mins crucial I think....if we concede 1 could be more...hold out and draw or better!
What is wrong with passing it to a BLUE shirt???
Go ed tony lad show a bita fight cmon everton fuk these pricks
Wow! Just loved it when Hibbert Grabbed Clichy by the throat!!!!!!
Shld have killed him!
Shld have killed him!
Why does Howard NEVER come for crosses?
oh boy...
Oh shit! 2-1
I’m not surprised and it’s deserved too.
So when will we make a substitution? Maybe 89th min?
We need someone to come on NOW to turn the game on its head. BRING ON SUPER PHIL NEVILLE!!!!
Is it just me or has Hibbert become shorter, slower and crapper than he used to be? He should have got a red card and frankly we would be better with 10 men than with an 11 including a stunted hoof footed dwarf like him. Can?t believe Moyes is getting paid $17.5 million for this predictable collapse. Baines is crap too. Is Arteta playing today? Haven?t seen him.
I thought Fellaini did OK in a sort of Carlton Palmer lankey uncontrolled sort of way but his inability to keep up with the ball when dribbling was his undoing.
Oh good, here it comes........ unbelievably dodgy red card to Valencia for Wigan at Anfield. Once again what looked like a great day is quickly turning into complete and utter bollox. I really don't know why I put myself thru this shit.
Well, when you decide to play the fuckin match on only half a pitch (your own half)...
Oh so predictable.
Who the hell cares about Liverpool? They are not our rivals as they are at the top and soon they won?t even be city rivals when we live in Kirkby...
I?m gonna watch each weeks match and expect Everton to lose... so I don't have too high an expectation from now on... that keeps my blood pressure low too.
Fellaini for Saha.
Fellaini has played very well today, more from him to come no doubt. I hate to say it, but Hibbert is having a solid game.
Mr BIG GAME Arteta, is once again failing to deliver in a big game. Lescott too is looking weak.
Fellaini has played very well today, more from him to come no doubt. I hate to say it, but Hibbert is having a solid game.
Mr BIG GAME Arteta, is once again failing to deliver in a big game. Lescott too is looking weak.
OH FFS HERE COMES PHIL....The first time Tony looks good he’s off.
Come on Vaughny
Come on Vaughny
Arteta anonymous again against top opposition.... Fuckin' shockin'.
For 45 minutes today I thought Moyes had learnt a lesson. But what the FUCK is the point of bringing on Phil Neville and taking our best striker off? Christ all mighty.
Do we actually have a midfield? Or we are playing 7-3.... cause it seems like we’re empty in the middle of the park
Lee.... that tactic baffles me too... WTF???
We are playing to maintain the 2-1 scoreline is it?!!!
We are playing to maintain the 2-1 scoreline is it?!!!
We have done well first half and lost the plot second half. Badly lacking a midfield enforcer to repel the likes of Fabregas. Having said that, it might have been different if the ref doesn’t give them a dodgy free kick that led to their equaliser. It’s been different rules for the teams today at times - Lescott and Hibbo both booked for good strong tackles ffs.
HOOOOFFFF !!....all day long...absolute rubbish. Not looked like scoring in second half....surely the style of play HAS to change. We just surrender possession all the time...it’s terrible !!
Oh well lads, only 5 more years.
Ha Ha Ha Ha, £17.5m, Ha Ha Ha, oh my fucking god!
Next week Man.U. I’d wish I could be more positive but I just can’t. We’re already in a relegation fight.
It seems Art, that I have been proven to be a realist (and an accurate one at that - I claim no happiness in losing, or credit for prediction - it was blindingly obvious). You can call it cynical and pessimistic if you wish, it matters not to me. You can try and take the "true supporters" moral high ground if you wish.
But then as you said, "we?ve already got something from this game", so you must be happy! Good to know that some people are happy getting 0 points from a match.
Make?s you wonder who is the truer supporter, eh? The one who won't accept any negativity from fans about the team - or the one who won?t accept negativity from the formation and ultimate result.
But then as you said, "we?ve already got something from this game", so you must be happy! Good to know that some people are happy getting 0 points from a match.
Make?s you wonder who is the truer supporter, eh? The one who won't accept any negativity from fans about the team - or the one who won?t accept negativity from the formation and ultimate result.
Totally bloody useless
Brian - Moyes’ rebuilding better had start quickly... ;-)
The goal was not the result of "hoooofffff" - it was the best move of the match. But I agree we need to play more controlled football - we just haven?t had the ball in the second half. I?d love to have some of the RS?s luck though. Another day seems brilliant at half time only to turn to shite!
Thomas mate, do you believe in miracles? I might make a trip to Lourdes in the near future.
Manure next... hope they go easy on us and just get single figures!
How many times are we gonna give the ball away FFS!!
I fear for them next week, I really do... We are shite!! Never mind playing well in the 1st half ? once Arsenal moved into second gear, we were fucked...
Oh well, at least we?ve got the Moyesiah for the next 5yrs... god help us !!
HOOOFFF!! it upthe pitch to no one in particular... it?s a fuckin joke !!
I fear for them next week, I really do... We are shite!! Never mind playing well in the 1st half ? once Arsenal moved into second gear, we were fucked...
Oh well, at least we?ve got the Moyesiah for the next 5yrs... god help us !!
HOOOFFF!! it upthe pitch to no one in particular... it?s a fuckin joke !!
Not sure about miracles, but I believe we’d be better off selling Arteta, Neville among others.
Fingers crossed Keith Harris delivers.
Fingers crossed Keith Harris delivers.
Yet another superb half-time talk from the Moyesiah... 5 more years of this negative twat. Oh joy!
Cheers Thomas.
I’m really starting to worry about Arteta - selling him would mean losing our one truly potentially brilliant footballer but he is getting worse and worse. Perhaps cashing in and importing M’Bia or the likes would be for the longer term benefit? That’s my biggest Moyes criticism - we don’t seem to develop players’ abilities.
Simon Hopper... stop kiddin yourself mate. Best move of the match..we lost 3-1 and were never in it once Arsenal decided to have a go... We don't, won't or more to the point CAN'T keep the ball... no wonder we?re always under pressure. Moyes's style of play is SHITE and continually surrenders possession to the opposition... it?s embarrassing.
That display was appalling.
I know Arsenal are top 4 etc etc yadda yadda and will beat most teams at home, but we were pathetic.
Will somebody please tell me what Arteta and Yakubu did.
They always go missing against the big teams.
Yak gave the ball away again for their 1st goal. I think that’s 3 times now this season he’s done that.
I hate to be negative and will always praise us when we play well, but that performance was a disgrace.
We are a shadow of the side from last season.
We need to sort it quick.
I know Arsenal are top 4 etc etc yadda yadda and will beat most teams at home, but we were pathetic.
Will somebody please tell me what Arteta and Yakubu did.
They always go missing against the big teams.
Yak gave the ball away again for their 1st goal. I think that’s 3 times now this season he’s done that.
I hate to be negative and will always praise us when we play well, but that performance was a disgrace.
We are a shadow of the side from last season.
We need to sort it quick.
Nelly - the point I am making is we made one excellent move, scored and then forgot to play football for the rest of the match. I agree with you that our style isn’t good and can’t understand it when in flashes we can put together decent moves. I hate the long balls and would fine players every time they did it.
So Jeremy... you keep stoom for 80 minutes, yet within SECONDS of the match finishing, you post your gleeful ’I told you so’ post.
Your thoughts have very little to do with reality, as you wish to claim... you ARE delighting in being ’proved right’ (in your eyes...).
Your earlier claim was not blindingly obvious. The way the team was set up worked perfectly in the first half. Indeed, we could have been two up at the interval... we could have been two up a minute after the restart, seconds BEFORE they equalised. But that is conveniently ignored to accommodate your all-knowing omniscience.
Arsenal played extremely well in the second half... they ARE a very good team. They deserved the win. Most would have anticipated, in all honesty, not taking anything from this game... for an hour, we were still in with a chance of doing so. I don’t celebrate ANY defeat... similarly, I don’t surrender and condemn my team before a ball has been kicked in ANY game.
Have I used the term "true supporters" (EVER??!!) label on this site??!! NO!!! I have greater maturity than that. Have I denied you the right (which you evidently admit...) of being negative about the team? NO!! But nor am I going to give you a free ride to do so.
As evidenced by this thread, there ARE people who trot out stereotypes about our team, our players and a manager which simply do not always correspond to what is actually happening in any given game.
Your earlier comments assumed that and I dispute your view, regardless of the result you ARE taking delight in...
Your thoughts have very little to do with reality, as you wish to claim... you ARE delighting in being ’proved right’ (in your eyes...).
Your earlier claim was not blindingly obvious. The way the team was set up worked perfectly in the first half. Indeed, we could have been two up at the interval... we could have been two up a minute after the restart, seconds BEFORE they equalised. But that is conveniently ignored to accommodate your all-knowing omniscience.
Arsenal played extremely well in the second half... they ARE a very good team. They deserved the win. Most would have anticipated, in all honesty, not taking anything from this game... for an hour, we were still in with a chance of doing so. I don’t celebrate ANY defeat... similarly, I don’t surrender and condemn my team before a ball has been kicked in ANY game.
Have I used the term "true supporters" (EVER??!!) label on this site??!! NO!!! I have greater maturity than that. Have I denied you the right (which you evidently admit...) of being negative about the team? NO!! But nor am I going to give you a free ride to do so.
As evidenced by this thread, there ARE people who trot out stereotypes about our team, our players and a manager which simply do not always correspond to what is actually happening in any given game.
Your earlier comments assumed that and I dispute your view, regardless of the result you ARE taking delight in...
Somehow getting beaten 3-1 felt worse given we had played well for 50 minutes and had been 1-0 up. Three thoughts: Fellaini seemed to be carrying an injury sustained in the first half into the second and his contribution diminished immediately. If that’s the case he should have been subbed at half time. Second, whatever is wrong with the defence and I still can’t figure it out, it doesn’t appear that dropping Yobo is the answer. Three, I’ve been in trouble for saying this in the past, but Yakubu appears lazy, unconcerned and not completely fit. I know he has a lot of admirers, but until and unless he starts putting them away, I’m justified in thinking him a Carthorse a la Heskey. Admittedly, he needs better service but he had three chances at potentially game changing moments - make that three and a half - and blew all them.
Art... it doesn't matter... we lost. We maintained two or more goals per game (in our net). We hoof when under stress. The defence just follows and crowds around the balls, failing to mark free man.
The midfield... what midfield?
I'm leaving this team after 15 years of blind faith and support.... I wish all the optimisst well... COYB.. You are the best... but I can't watch any longer.
The midfield... what midfield?
I'm leaving this team after 15 years of blind faith and support.... I wish all the optimisst well... COYB.. You are the best... but I can't watch any longer.
Simon...my apopogies I thought you were trying to defend the Moysiahs tactics by saying he tries to play football..HE DOES NOT !!
Once again my apologies !!
Once again my apologies !!
Another big day for Brian Waring and Tony Marsh. Another kick in the teeth for the rest of us. I?m thinking of becoming a negative cynical whiner and then at least I can come on and say I was right every time we get beat and I can sit in smug satisfaction on a Saturday night rather than hurt like it does now.
I?m sick of it just plain sick of it and Man Utd to come.
I?m sick of it just plain sick of it and Man Utd to come.
Article heading on home page reads...
ARTETA: NO INTEREST in ENGLAND..
After his performance today it should just read ARTETA: NO INTEREST !!
ARTETA: NO INTEREST in ENGLAND..
After his performance today it should just read ARTETA: NO INTEREST !!
Nelly, not a problem. We are all understandably frustrated. I am not a Moyes fan any more because he seems to have lost his passion whilst not developing other skills. What really frustrates me about the Blues though is that we clearly CAN play football - but we only do it for 5 minutes in games.
Why do we pass through Osman, Pienaar and Arteta once ? and score ? and then stop doing it to lump it long to Yak? What can?t the coaching team see? Or perhaps even more importantly, are the players so thick they can?t realise what works and what does not. They only get paid my annual salary each week to be crap.
Dave Ash: "Another big day for Brian Waring and Tony Marsh" Get a fucking grip will yer! I am just as gutted as the next blue when we get beat, and I can?t speak for Tony, but I?m 100% positive that he will be as well.
It could be worse: we could have spent millions and millions, brought in a supposed tactical expert, play some nice football and still sit bottom of the league like Spurs. It could be worse, but only just at the moment. We need a big November - 12 points from the 5 games minimum I reckon. Fingers crossed; I’m off to start praying for a change in fortunes.
Oh well... instead of going on about how bad we were in the second half, I?ll just settle for mentioning our one (maybe two) positives today.
I thought Fellaini is really settling in, causing Arsenal quite a bit of trouble today.
I thought Fellaini is really settling in, causing Arsenal quite a bit of trouble today.
I have been saying all week ’Our season starts here’ and from listening to the commentry that was certainly borne out by our first-half display.
Davey was adament after the game that the free kick which led to their equaliser should not have been given and indicated that the youngsters,Rodwell and Fellaini were both excellent. He said the improvement shown in the last two games was certainly carried into today’s game so it’s clear we’re on the right lines. Very confident that with Phil back to lead us against his old club it will all come good against Man Unt.
KEEP THE FAITH!
Davey was adament after the game that the free kick which led to their equaliser should not have been given and indicated that the youngsters,Rodwell and Fellaini were both excellent. He said the improvement shown in the last two games was certainly carried into today’s game so it’s clear we’re on the right lines. Very confident that with Phil back to lead us against his old club it will all come good against Man Unt.
KEEP THE FAITH!
So Doddy, the season started in the first half, did it? Well, by your mind-numbing logic it stopped again after just one half!!!
Please grow up and cut out this childish sugar-coated "Don’t worry, everything is going to be alrite" nonsense. We are not kids in the afternoon matinee watching the latest Hollywood pap.
Please grow up and cut out this childish sugar-coated "Don’t worry, everything is going to be alrite" nonsense. We are not kids in the afternoon matinee watching the latest Hollywood pap.
Don’t pay attention to Richard Dodd, he’s on another wind up.
Moyes again showing us his ability to change tactics when it matters. He never learns.
5 more years, great.
Moyes again showing us his ability to change tactics when it matters. He never learns.
5 more years, great.
Can I be the first to say it :
EVERTON ARE TOO GOOD TO GO DOWN!
EVERTON ARE TOO GOOD TO GO DOWN!
Yet again our team display their fighting qualities by throwing away a half-time lead. That must be all that encouragement we have heard about because Davey has signed his contract.
Or perhaps they just said ?Fuck it, he?s the one earning £70k a week ? let him worry about it!?
Simon I totally understand your frustrations and agree with the point you made about playing football as opposed to Hoofball.
For two months toward the end of last year (ironically around about this same time) we played some great football, passing to feet, great movement etc, played teams off the park and battered them. It was this type of play which had us all believing that this time we may have actually turned the corner and the days of hoofball were finally over... alas it was not to be as after Xmas for some reason best known to himself Moyes returned to hoofball and we?ve been shite ever since.
For me, to continually give the ball away (most times when not under pressure) is UNFORGIVABLE & UNACCEPTABLE.... As you say, if we can see it, I just can't understand how Moyes and his cronies cant!!... After all, isn't that what he?s getting paid £17.5mil to do??
By the way, is there an OPTA stats league to show which team gets caught in possesion most often? If there is, then Everton will surely be top by a country mile with Osman being the culprit in chief!! Tidy footballer he may be but he?s just too slow to play at this level.... yes, I know he scored but after that what else did he contribute this afternoon?? If you watched the game you?ll have to agree... not much.
For two months toward the end of last year (ironically around about this same time) we played some great football, passing to feet, great movement etc, played teams off the park and battered them. It was this type of play which had us all believing that this time we may have actually turned the corner and the days of hoofball were finally over... alas it was not to be as after Xmas for some reason best known to himself Moyes returned to hoofball and we?ve been shite ever since.
For me, to continually give the ball away (most times when not under pressure) is UNFORGIVABLE & UNACCEPTABLE.... As you say, if we can see it, I just can't understand how Moyes and his cronies cant!!... After all, isn't that what he?s getting paid £17.5mil to do??
By the way, is there an OPTA stats league to show which team gets caught in possesion most often? If there is, then Everton will surely be top by a country mile with Osman being the culprit in chief!! Tidy footballer he may be but he?s just too slow to play at this level.... yes, I know he scored but after that what else did he contribute this afternoon?? If you watched the game you?ll have to agree... not much.
Seems we can't play in the 2nd half... Thats 3 league games in a row where we crumble in that period. Against Liverpool in the 1st half we defended well; 2nd half we were asleep and ball watching.
Against the barcodes we were fooking brilliant in the 1st half... 2nd half we forgot to play 'til the last few mins.
Today same thing... Yak doesn't seem interested and and he seems to fall down easily, don't he, for such a big bloke. Most times he could have held the ball and waited for support (he's got the size and strength and I?ve seen him do that) but no, he either tries to solo or fall and gets nothing from the ref.. and he was at fault for giving the ball away fot the 1st goal (again).
On a good note, Fellaini seems to show what he can do but he still needs to adapt fast and work on his damn lumbering gait of a pace.... When we do decide to play ball on the ground we seem to be a much better team. We need to see more of that please, Moyes.
Against the barcodes we were fooking brilliant in the 1st half... 2nd half we forgot to play 'til the last few mins.
Today same thing... Yak doesn't seem interested and and he seems to fall down easily, don't he, for such a big bloke. Most times he could have held the ball and waited for support (he's got the size and strength and I?ve seen him do that) but no, he either tries to solo or fall and gets nothing from the ref.. and he was at fault for giving the ball away fot the 1st goal (again).
On a good note, Fellaini seems to show what he can do but he still needs to adapt fast and work on his damn lumbering gait of a pace.... When we do decide to play ball on the ground we seem to be a much better team. We need to see more of that please, Moyes.
Art,
I kept stoom for 80 minutes?
Yes, of course - its called "keeping your powder dry".
Something you would do well to learn, given your hasty outburst which looked very foolish by the end.
You can clutch at straws all you wish, but all I did was say we would lose and by two clear goals.
Sour grapes really isn’t very becoming.
I kept stoom for 80 minutes?
Yes, of course - its called "keeping your powder dry".
Something you would do well to learn, given your hasty outburst which looked very foolish by the end.
You can clutch at straws all you wish, but all I did was say we would lose and by two clear goals.
Sour grapes really isn’t very becoming.
Nelly, I most certainly do agree about the lack of football point but I would say that with the proper enforcer midfielder alongside him, Osman would blossom. He is a good footballer but gets bypassed in games. He has good control and ability but is too slight to control a midfield that also contains small players like Pienaar and Arteta. I am worried Fellaini isn’t much stronger despite his 6 foot 4 inch frame! Osman shouldn’t be singled out although I think he is one of many culprits - he can play football but doesn’t seem to get the chance for various reasons. My fear is that replacing Osman with neville would make absolutely no difference - if anything we’d be worse!!!
Is Art Geeth sane?
Could somebody please explain to me why we have offered Moyes a new contract, let alone one with double the money?
I?m a salesperson and was good last year, maybe not so good this year and nobody is rushing to double my money.
So Moyes; wins 2 out of 12 matches; knocked out already of 2 cups; appalling transfer decisions; Fellatio will surely win the biggest waste of money award by a country mile; and we have easily the worst defence in the Premier.
We keep hearing Moyes admit that the players may have been distracted by his contract signing dithering. What about the obvious point that Moyes was himself distracted?
Finally, why does Moyes trot out all this garbage about his contract signing delay? We could be forgiven for thinking the real reason for the delay was to ensure he took as much money as possible for himself.
At the moment I think we would all agree that he has a lot to prove. I just don?t understand why we have offered him a new contract as he doesn?t deserve it based on the results or the rubbish football he continually serves up.
I?m a salesperson and was good last year, maybe not so good this year and nobody is rushing to double my money.
So Moyes; wins 2 out of 12 matches; knocked out already of 2 cups; appalling transfer decisions; Fellatio will surely win the biggest waste of money award by a country mile; and we have easily the worst defence in the Premier.
We keep hearing Moyes admit that the players may have been distracted by his contract signing dithering. What about the obvious point that Moyes was himself distracted?
Finally, why does Moyes trot out all this garbage about his contract signing delay? We could be forgiven for thinking the real reason for the delay was to ensure he took as much money as possible for himself.
At the moment I think we would all agree that he has a lot to prove. I just don?t understand why we have offered him a new contract as he doesn?t deserve it based on the results or the rubbish football he continually serves up.
Rodwell, central defender in midfield.
He is not good enough, never will be.
Saw he was playing and bet on Arsenal to win.
He is not good enough, never will be.
Saw he was playing and bet on Arsenal to win.
I?ll tell you that I don?t watch very many of our games at all ? a combination of work and apathy. Last night is why I don?t bother. We were outplayed in every department.
Look at the league table ? we?re in deep deep shit. Man Utd next week. On what we?ve just seen, how many points can Moyes expect to take from that game?
It?s nearly November. Moyes's massive contract ? he?s on more than many of the players ? seems to have driven a wedge between him and the players. Maybe we ship so many goals in the second half because at half time the ginger ninja reminds them all how much they hate him. At any rate, they?ve clearly stopped listening.
Can anyone tell me what this assistant manager is doing? Isn?t our defense our strong point? We?re "tough to beat" etc etc. What a crock of shit. All Moyes and Co seem able to do is shuffle personnel, when it?s the system that's clearly failing. We just don?t have a defensive midfielder capable of shielding the back four. (Although at the moment, the second incarnation of Patrick Vieira would have trouble protecting these clowns.)
Moyes has been here for fucken years and years and he can?t find some quick bastard to track back and break up counter-attacks? What, did he think Carsley was going to keep going until he was 40???
Without that presence in front of the back four, it becomes imperative that possession is retained as much as possible to limit the amount of raids on your own goal. Instead, a combination of lack of composure and "play the percentages" style clearances result in us recycling the ball to the opposition at a rate of knots. It?s really not fucking rocket science. Yet it seems beyond a manager on more money than anyone else without a trophy!
All summer long, things were fucked, and now it?s coming home to nest big time. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
And here we are neck deep in it. The fans who dared question the way things were going, who were shouted down and derided as doom-mongers, are just as hurt and angry at this as anyone else. Maybe more so for they saw this coming.
As this shambles of a season rolls on, I fervently pray and hope for the spurt of league wins that will ease the pressure and allow us to play better football. As penalty shootout exits, big game results and the reputation many of our players have for not showing up when it matters, we can afford to be under pressure less than most teams.
But can anyone see where this run of wins is going to come from? Because for me the alarm bells are well and truly ringing.
The difference was on the bench for all to see, well it was on one bench: Wenger?s.
They played us with 10 men for 25 mins, took off the injured defender at HT, brought on a forward, Lo and behold, in the 2nd half the real Arsenal played and we didn?t.
Read my lips:
FIVE
MORE
FUCKIN?
YEARS!!
They played us with 10 men for 25 mins, took off the injured defender at HT, brought on a forward, Lo and behold, in the 2nd half the real Arsenal played and we didn?t.
Read my lips:
FIVE
MORE
FUCKIN?
YEARS!!
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