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Moyes now, who next?
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There have been many articles on this site about the doom and gloom of Moyes signing for another five years. There has also been the odd article backing Moyes and looking at the bigger picture of where we have come over the last few years.
Personally, I have always been a Moyes supporter after starting supporting the Blues in the late 80s, I have seen the incompetence of Walker Smith, etc. I'm glad that we are not consistently flirting with relegation. However, after the summer's inactivity, the stadium debate, the dreadful start to the league campaign, out of two cups already and the long drawn-out contract saga of Moyes, my faith in him is wavering.
If this season carries on the way it is, we are going to be in serious relegation trouble; with Hull doing so well, it looks like a big club could go down this year. With the likes of Tottenham and already Newcastle going to change managers, they will get instant results as players want to impress the new manager. If results don't change, and Moyes won't leave, and we have no money in January for reinforcements, what are our chances of staying in the Premier League? If we do go down, with our debt, we could easily be the next Forest, Sheff Wed, Coventry, Leicester, etc.
However, for all you fans out there saying Moyes should leave, who would come in? There is no way we could attract a big name like Mancini or Laudrup or Aragones. Although these names are out of work, they would want to manage a club in the Champions League (we are not), we are not even in the Uefa Cup now this season, we have no money and we are in 16th in the table. We also have the uncertainty over the stadium. We are not an attractive proposition for a new manager, let alone billionaire owner!
Therefore, if Moyes was to leave as some fans are calling for, we would only end up with the likes of Allardyce or Curbishley or Mick McCarthy! Are these names really better than Moyes? Is the grass really greener without Moyes?
Matthew Lovekin, Posted 19/10/2008 at 20:32:33
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I?d be happy with the likes of Pim Verbeek the Australian manager who worked under Gus Hiddink. He is a straight talker, doesn?t play favourites and plays his football on the floor with an adaptable system. He is only an example, but I believe he is on something like $2 million Australian dollars a year. We also had Dick Advocaat sign for that type of money before he pulled out. So it goes to show plenty of good managers would love to manage an EPL club on a deal worth the £3.5 million pounds per year offered to Moyes.
Any thoughts of Moyes being replaced are void anyway. I think he would be kept even if we were relegated. Just like with Tesco I think the board have a mental exclusivity deal with Moyes. I don?t think they even considered a replacement.
We may be the only one of the bottom 3 that has no chance of getting a new coach in and thus have no chance of the players upping it for the new guy and improving.
The 17mill deal is, in effect, a vote of confidence from the Chairman to Moyes, Oh for it to be followed up by, as sometimes happens, THE SACK.
First of all, he would have to pay him off and then pay for a new manager. It ain’t gonna happen under Kenwright I’m afraid.
It’s a bloody shame.
Personally, I?d love to see someone like Laudrup at the club, but I think it?s unlikely. It?s not the champions league problem or the salary on offer problem, it?s the absolute lack of money on offer to strengthen the squad.
Hand on heart, I think you?d struggle to find anyone in football who really believes they could have done job at Everton over the last 6 years than Moyes has managed. The ones who do think they could have are either Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho or completely deluded.
Of course it?s possible that someone could now do a better job with the players at their disposal than Moyes, but think very few serious managers would be prepared to stake their reputation on it. They would want serious funds to get their own players in, simple as that. And we don?t have serious funds unfortunately.
Moyes is the best thing that has happened to the club since the Kendall years. Fact. If he hadn?t signed for us 6 years ago we would now be where Nott Forest are. And he is still the best man to keep us moving forward as a club bit by bit. Stability is so important. I can?t believe that some of you want a new manager in just to get the honeymoon points in.
Wake up and be careful what you wish for.
Personally, I think we could do a lot worse than going for Mowbray. There are also a lot of good managers in the Championship at the minute.
On the new contract, what was the hurry in Moyes signing it as it doesn't run out until next year? It should have been witheld to see if he can turn this terrible start around.
Cheers Bill.
ROUND OUT!
I?d like to forecast the next 5 years under Moyes:
2008-09: 15th place out of FA Cup 4th round
2009-10: 10th place. Dodd rejoices at the ?improvement? on 15th the previous season.
2010-11: 12th but reach the semi of Carling Cup. People accept Moyes needs more time but it?s brilliant we reached the semi.
2011-12: 15th. Moyes signs a 10-year contract for £10 million a year making him THE best paid manager. Evertonians rejoice blaming last season on the fact he had unresolved contract issues which affected the team. Think of the stability.
2012-13: Moyes signs Heskey.
Arogones? Please. Do we really want a racist sack of shyte like that at the club?
2009-10 - Moyes presents the fans with a new five year plan
2010-11 - Moyes admits that he cannot compete with the big 4. They?ve got more money than he has (he neglects to mention the smaller 15 that continuously play better football than us)
2011-12 - Moyes hails Pip Neville as England?s number 1 midfielder and urges England manager, Slaven Billic, to bring Pip back into the fold.
2012-13 - Moyes addresses the deficiencies in the team by presenting the fans with ? wait for it ? a new five-year plan. Pip Neville signs a 5-year contract as reward for his sterling efforts in a blue shirt.
He continues as he is with terrible results for us all and then gets sacked with a handsome pay packet (any manager would have signed the contract regardless) or he shows he has what it takes to drag us through this and then start to play some decent footy.
He needs our support right now and more importantly he needs the senior players in the team to get a grip and concentrate on their work. Also boys, dont think that only the next game is tough because the rest of the season is going to be tough.
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