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Transfer Deadline Day

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Personally, I do not think we will sign anybody. By the sounds of it, we have deals there, and Moyes has hinted at them, for example at least 2 new faces, Heitinga and Banega. Except with hours to go, we have no real chance of signing them anymore. I don't think we will sign a goalkeeper, even Moyes wouldn't buy a player we don't need. But with no midfielders or defenders going cheap, I can't really see us breaking the bank at the last minute this time round.

I do think our main problem is not transfer kitty, it is wage structure. Players like Heitinga would sign for us if we could offer wages that broke ours but I think the board know this is not wise in the long run. A year down the line, players like Yakubu, Pienaar and Arteta could ask for bigger money or they will leave, as in what seems to happen at other clubs.

To be honest, I don't think that is viable as new players would then ask for what our maximum wage is just to sign, and leave us unable to sign in the future. I would like to see players the quality of Van de Vart and Heitinga line up against Fulham, but without investment they will never be able to compromise wages to our level.
Christopher Ashton, Liverpool     Posted 01/09/2009 at 09:46:09

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Mark Ramshaw
1   Posted 01/09/2009 at 05:47:10

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Why is it we're scratching around on deadline day yet again? I know we don't have a great deal of money for fees or wages but there are players out there we could have gone for. Where on earth would you find a club that gets work permits for players that the deals haven't been done for (Banega) and announce the Heitinga deal before he's even signed and then find out we can't afford him?

I don't want this to be too negative but I'm struggling to find the positives. Preparation wise I thought we were going to get the players in early and get them settled (Moyes words). What happened to that?

We've struggled so far this season. It appears we made a last ditch bid for Krancjar last night (why wasn't this done a month back) and Bentley's in talks with Man City (not sure he'd be the answer).

I'd like a right side midfielder, right back and back-up centre half. Would love to know what goes on in Moyes's/BK's minds and what they're playing at. I hope they've got some Aces up their sleeves...

Norman Merrill
2   Posted 01/09/2009 at 10:06:47

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Just been on Sky Sports News, showing Johnny Heitinga, arriving at training ground. So it looks promising?
Ciarán McGlone
3   Posted 01/09/2009 at 13:57:43

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We may sign Heitinga... but who cares? He’s simply cover.

Midfield was the major problem with our usual suspects out-played, out-classed and out-hoofed... and what do we buy? Another average attacking midfielder to add to the myriad of average ones we already have.

The mind fuckin boggles.
Anthony Millington
4   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:06:42

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How is Heitinga cover? Surely he is going to be pushing hard to take Hibbert’s place at right back! I wish we would just sign a fast winger as it would give us more of an outlet than Leon Osman. Did you see Wigan’s counter attack on Sunday? I think we may have about two players capable of running that fast!
Benn Chambers
5   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:09:27

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Ciaran,

ARE YOU ON GLUE MATE???

Cover? The lad is a Dutch international first choice, he is first choice for Atletico..... I have know idea why they are willing to let him go but I don't care either as long as we get him!

He is class, he is better defensive Mid than Neville, He is a better right backl thank Hibbert and is a better Centre Half that Yobo!!!

How is that cover, Some people are never happy!

Your right, the mind does fuckin boggle!
Mike Allison
6   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:10:40

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If we actually sign him and don’t cock it up, Heitinga will not be cover, he’ll be a first choice player, almost certainly at right back.
Jamie Tulacz
7   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:10:22

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Ciaran- a Dutch international right back is cover for Hibbert then? I know Hibbert had a decent game on Sunday but still... Surely Billy boy is the fast international winger we’ve signed in any case. Assume him and Pienaar will play out wide with Osman dropped?

I agree that this transfer window has been the usual shambles, but let’s at least be positive about the decent players that we have/hopefully will sign.
Benn Chambers
8   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:11:27

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Soz for the typo’s, i was in a rage! lol
Robert Pierpoint
9   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:12:40

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Heitinga should be a good signing in my opinion, around 50 cps for holland, right age, versatile. Surely we must be happy with that....other news we hear that Bentley will not be going to City this season...
Ciarán McGlone
10   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:16:03

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Benn,

I would suggest you watch Heitinga play.
John Parker
11   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:14:29

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One other good point about the Heitinga signing is that he is a good mate of Pienaar's from early Ajax days and may help to get him to sign a new contract...
Dave Southon
12   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:21:13

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I for one watch a lot of Spanish football. Heitinga is a good player and far better than Hibbert if played at RB and also Yobo if played at CB. He has over 50 caps for Holland who are no mugs in International football.

So anyone who insists on not wanting this player at EFC clearly doesn’t support the club but merely infiltrates this website to get real supporters riled.
Benn Chambers
13   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:23:51

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Ciaran,

I have matey for both club and country and I’m amazed we might actually get him.

Cover my arse!
Ciarán McGlone
14   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:26:12

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Dave,

Where did anyone say they didn’t want him?

I happen to think there’s far more pressing areas in need of attention.

As for you last comment... catch a fuckin grip of yourself.
Martyn Harvey
15   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:26:04

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Ciaran,

Cover??? Did you come from the same pot as Bill Kenwright? Only the man himself would say such a thing... I suppose you "work tirelessly" at everything you do including watching Spanish football by the sounds of things.

In other news I’m sat here in Afghanistan and the only thing keeping my going to is Sky Sports.com. On the transfer deadline day news it say Bentley will not be joining Man City but there is no story coming up yet..... Could we have a chance at snapping him up too??? What you think Ciaran......sorry I mean Mr Kenwright!!
Ciarán McGlone
16   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:29:54

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Benn,

You’ve obviously seen something I haven’t... He will undoubedly be ’cover’ for centre-half...

And it’s unlikely that Moyes will drop Hibbert going by his recent performances... it’ll take a drop in Hibbert's form before Heitinga gets the nod. Therefore he’ll be on the bench... and therefore will be ’cover’.
Harry Reynalds
17   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:32:03

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Atletico are up shit creek... Almost as much as Valencia

Heitinga’s one of their top earners, I’m sure they’ll be glad to get him off the wage bill!
Dave Southon
18   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:31:27

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Ciaran,

Your comment saying "who cares" implies you are not fussed if he arrives or not. When, if you evaluated the squad, you will see that our RB is possibly the worst in the country. So answer me this: what area of the pitch needs more attention than our RB role.
Patty Beesley
19   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:35:46

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Ciaran.... Does anything ever please you. If we sign Johnny it will be a bloody good signing and you may live to eat your words. We will see if he’s average attacking midfielder shall we? Are you in contention with Tony Marsh for the "Moaner of all time crown?
Dan Parker
20   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:38:17

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Don’t worry, we’ll sign a big haired freak and a Scandanavian.
Tony Marsh
21   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:40:25

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We don't want investment because it would mean sellng our soul or so some of our fans say. No they would sooner plod along with Billy Bullshitter at the helm because he is an Everton fan.

Better the devil you know and not some nasty Oil Sheik or Russian Billionaire as they are not Blues. Well if we dont get some one in soon we might aswell pack kit all in as we are being left behind on the wages front.

We can no longer buy the players we need because we cant pay the going rate for thier services. How the fuck any of you can be happy with that situation is beyond me.
Ciarán McGlone
22   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:43:22

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Patty,

You’ve cracked that ’moaner of the year’ joke before...why don’t you try it a third time - maybe it’ll grow on me. Maybe if you knew Heitinga’s position then your suggestion that he’d be a ’bloody good signing’ - might actually carry some weight.

Dave,

A Playmaker and right winger were the two outstanding positions that our first eleven needed. Midfield is teh major problem area...in fact the problems in midfield is one of the reasons Hibbert gets exposed so much.

As for you comment about Hibbert being the worst rigth back in the league....well that’s just reactionary bollocks.
Julian Wait
23   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:49:19

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Yobo will be gone for ANC. Jagielka may or may not be ready in time. Rodwell is not a CH. Hence we need another CH. Additionally we only have Neville as cover for RB. And neither Yobo or Jagielka have ever shone at RB.

So having a CH/RB of his supposed quality makes sense. Perhaps Moyes even sees a right side partnership of Pienaar and Johnny Heitinga (as an Ajax reunion) once Jags and Distin become established (they will be first choice — Yobo and Hibbert will be the cover if it works out)?
Simon Walker
24   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:52:00

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Not sure if this has been mentioned already or not but a Reporter (surrounded by scally’s) on Sky Sports confirmed that the Ever Banega deal was stopped by Valencia ’Reneging’ on the deal.

I remember a story coming out saying Valencia had denied all knowledge that there was a deal or if there’d been any contact, just goes to show the amount of bollocks that gets talked during the silly season... eh Ciarán? .. lol
Kevin Hudson
25   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:51:52

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Just popped out to the shop, and as I did so, this Porsche stops by. A strangely familiar face wound down the window, and said: "Excuse me sir, but I’m looking for Finch Farm?"

Could have sworn it was Riquelme..

(Sorry,wanted to lighten the mood as you guys are well stressed!!)
Ciarán McGlone
26   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:56:39

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That happened to me once Kevin... It was Jim Bowen.
Steve Hopkins
27   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:01:14

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Did we miss out on Jim Bowen due to our rigid wage structure, or because we decided that Osman is actually a better comedian?
Dave Southon
28   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:01:08

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Ciaran, Ciaran, Ciaran...

Look at the bigger picture. Bily’s signing will put Pienaar to Right Wing, with dare I say it Osman as back up. Playmaker is Arteta, and I can’t see DM having enough funds to bring a better player to the club than him. As for Hibbert it is not reactionary bollocks, but my opinion, he is a liability and looks a beaten man before the game has kicked off.
Vijay Nair
29   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:05:08

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Here’s an interesting article from Heitinga’s own website...

http://www.heitingaofficial.com/en/latest_news.asp?AjrDcmntId=6873

Me thinks he’ll be playing at more at right back than in the centre if he signs for us, but will be useful cover for centre back and defensive midfield.
Ernie Baywood
30   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:05:56

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Heitinga will be a good signing... or do we not want international fotballers at our club now?

Tony, no rich arab or Russian billionaire is going to come in and gift us tens or hundreds of millions, only one owner has done that and another has given an interest free loan.

Rich Arab or Rich Russian equals more borrowing power equals more debt equals interest that the club can’t afford to pay because it doesn’t have the revenue.

So I’m happy if we sign players within our means... until our means increase.
Dan Parker
31   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:09:46

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If we sign Jim Bowen, we’ll be doing a 180!

Sorry, couldn’t resist. Then at the end of the season we can have the ’here’s what you could have won’ during the award ceremony.
David Chait
32   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:02:44

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There are deffo mixed reports about Heitinga’s quality... but if he is as good as we expect a Dutch 1st choice to be then we have scored (if he signs).... Bily may yet prove to be awesome... if it were a name we were familar with we would be over the moon already (eg Zirkov). So let's see what happens...

Point is I agree with the original article; we need players now that are paid very well just to improve the side... shows where the team is now... we somehow need to be able to do an Arsenal — pay nothing — which means we can afford the wages. e’re going to have to lift the ceiling on wages at the expense now of transfers to improve!
Kevin Hudson
33   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:11:18

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Cover, Ciaran ?

Delusional view, that..
John Martin
34   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:11:42

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Last week we were told we were getting 4 or 5 players in. So far 2 have arrived. If Heitinga is the 3rd I wonder who the others will be? Probably nobody and we’ll have blown another summer transfer window.
Alec Laurie
35   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:11:35

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Why does everyone automatically presume that because we have now signed Bily, Pienaar will move over to the right?? We’ve all made this up! I know it makes sense (a lot of things that make sense don’t actually get done), but has Moyes actually been quoted as saying this??

Apparently Bily’s best position is through the middle anyway...

as is Piennar’s... as is Osman’s... as is Arteta’s... as is Cahill’s... AHHHHHHHHH....
Mike Green
36   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:17:49

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SSN says Banega deal off - unless we stump up the cash to buy him outright....
Ciarán McGlone
37   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:13:58

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’Look at the bigger picture.
Bily’s signing will put Pienaar to Right Wing, with dare I say it Osman as back up.’
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So, the ’bigger picture’ is — we play Bily out of his natural position (which is central attacking midfielder) by moving Pienaar from a position which isn’t his natural position (which is central attacking midfielder) to another one that’s not his natural position either...

I like this ’bigger picture’ — when does it go on general release?

I’ll agree on one thing... it’s an improvement... is it ideal? Not in my opinion... we should be looking to play people in their natural positions..I’d take billy in fro the left because he’s a leftie..but Pienaar to the right is a bit daft...he always looks a bit los there whenever he switches...

Our midfield should be:

Rodwell — Arteta — A right winger —Bily — Pienaar.

We are playing more and more people out of position... as Moyes tenure goes on!
Ernie Baywood
38   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:18:53

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Apparently Heitinga is officially at the ground now...
Lionel Luthor
39   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:15:28

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Surely the right hand side of our team was the most obvious weak point? Assuming we sign Heitinga as primarily a RB, and Pienaar moves to the right wing (Bily the left) then that has got to be better than Osman and Hibbert?

I’m not saying we shouldn’t want proven quality, but if what we get is an improvement on what we have, then it’s a start.

That said, I hope Heitinga isn’t the only player we sign today.
Anthony Millington
40   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:24:12

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Alec I agree, Moyes does seem to have an odd balcne to the midfield. Just think of every senior midfielder in the first team (excluding the likes of Rodwell and Gosling)...they are all attacking centre mids! Cahill, Fellaini, Osman, Pienaar, Billy... ok Arteta maybe now plays a bit deeper but surely we would do better if we played players in their natural position because then we would get the best out of them.
Mike Green
41   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:20:54

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Alec - you’re spot on. And I’m loathed to say it but you’re not too far off the money either Ciaran.

We need to buy a proper, all out, no messing, quality right sided midfielder. End of.

It’s not too much to ask.

Is it...?
Dave Southon
42   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:23:18

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I would be surprised if we managed to rope in another player this window. I however will try and remain positive that the Yak and Arteta are only weeks away. Before you say Yak played in Sigma, he is clearly still weeks away from being a regular again.

That said our team could have potential once more. As we have replaced Jacobsen with Heitinga and Van Der Meyde with Bily.
Any how Im babbling on, but I leave here my Everton Team.

GK: Howard
RB: Heitinga
LB: Baines
CB: Yobo (Jags come Xmas)
CB: Distin
RM: Pienaar
LM: Bily
CM: Neville
CM: Rodwell
AM: Arteta
CF: Yakubu

Subs:
Nash
Gosling
Hibbert
Osman
Cahill
Jo
Saha

Yes I have dropped Cahill and kept Neville, this is purely as DM won’t drop Capt Fantastic, and personally would prefer to see Arteta in that role.
Cahill and Saha could change a game coming on as impact subs???
Kevin Hudson
43   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:29:18

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I like the look at the shape of that team there Ciaran--looks the bollocks..

One question though: Who do you ( ultimately ) fancy at right-wing ?

And don’t say "Mussolini.."
Ciarán McGlone
44   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:42:02

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Franco.

I’d have spent money on Dalmat Kevin... without a doubt he’s the most impressive right winger I’ve seen recently.
Mark Pendleton
45   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:46:08

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Is it true that the Banega deal is off because, to save time, Moyes went online to have a video conference with Banega, to iron out the final few details of a loan move... and when he logged on, the Argentine fruit had his tally whacker out?
James Potter
46   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:51:33

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Dave, what about Fellaini?? Not even on the bench?
Alec Laurie
47   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:55:22

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Brilliant stuff, Mark Pendleton! Brilliant stuff!
Dave Southon
48   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:57:29

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James,

In truth forgot about the big man with big hair.
Slip him onto the bench until DM discovers which position to finally play him in, if any?
Stephen Foster
49   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:56:41

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I think we might see Bily and Pienaar swap positions/switch sides a lot during games to confuse the opposition.
Andy Codling
50   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:00:33

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Happy with Heitenga but I will not be happy if he is our ONLY signing today!! Piss poor if he is the only new arrival, that makes it ...
Bily the Russian — £9 million
Distin — £5 million
Heitinga — £5 million = £19 million

So where is the rest???

Alec Laurie
51   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:08:33

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Soooooooo glad I’ve got a meeting now for the next hour!! I never thought I’d say that!

See you at the other side guys!
Patty Beesley
52   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:03:35

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Ciaran.. Sorry to bore you by cracking the joke twice, but it's not meant as a joke!!! and just because I am a woman doesn’t mean I don’t know anything about the passion of my life... football. I’ve probably watched more matches since 1946 than you have had hot dinners.... Lighten up, lad, and take a joke!!
Robert Davis
53   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:09:05

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Go to the talentspotter site and see Hibbo rated higher than Heitinga!
Sean McNally
54   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:15:19

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He’s signed!!!!
Simon Walker
55   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:14:49

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Heitinga deal done as per SSN.
Sean McNally
56   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:15:44

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Dalmat is 30 years old, Ciaran, and was a flop at Spurs.
David Chait
57   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:13:21

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I would have in the mid:
.......Rodwell....Arteta.....
Pienaar........................Bily......
..............Fellaini.............

It's actually a very difficult one... and could be based on form when the time comes. But in terms of talent, this one springs to mind.
Steve Fletcher
58   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:17:44

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SSN reporting Heitinga signed!
Andrew Fair
59   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:16:19

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Good signing! Solid right back, bit of dutch quality and a regular international! Ok, it's vey late but well done Everton! They might get slagged off left, right and Ciaran on this site but this is a very smart signing and if the price reported is true then we should all be happy.
Matthew Salem
60   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:18:13

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Nothing on the Official Site, though...
Ciarán McGlone
61   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:15:43

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Patty,

You’re scraping the barrel by feigning sexism.
Matthew Salem
62   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:21:38

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Steve Fletcher,

do you by any chance have the link? I cannot find anything.

Cheers mate
Simon Walker
63   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:22:32

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£6.1million apparently.
Trevor Williams
64   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:22:52

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Here's Joohhhhhnnnnnyyyy!!!
Steve Fletcher
65   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:23:33

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Matthew... just reported on SSN. I haven't checked their website... says for £6.1M.
Simon Walker
66   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:24:10

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Matthew, it’s on the news channel mate, not seen in on t’internet yet either.
Matthew Salem
67   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:24:47

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Fair enough... I live outside the UK so I’ll take your word for it :)
Matthew Salem
68   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:25:42

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If this is true about Heitenga, sure we have another 30min or so to table an 11th hour Messi bid?
John Martin
69   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:30:56

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Sean, I believe he means Dalmat at Liege who was very impressive against us and the RS. Not the guy who flopped at Spurs.
Aidy Dews
70   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:28:26

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Heitinga as signed for fee of £6.2m; very good signing. I'm a little bit disappointed that it looks like he’ll be the only signing today though.

Wouldn’t it be just great if somehow Everton stumped up the €15m Valencia want for Banega and we signed him with seconds to spare, or signed anyone decent with seconds to spare for that matter?!!!

John Martin
71   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:31:34

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We need more class in midfield; I hope it's not just Heitinga or it's been another disappointing summer.
Matthew Salem
72   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:31:15

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IT"S ON THE OFFICAL SITE!!! YES! FUCKIN YES!!!
David Barks
73   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:32:57

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It’s on the official site, Heitinga deal completed.
Simon Walker
74   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:33:15

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SSN News channel say Kenwright is cooking another deal up... comment from 16:30 apparently...
Sean McNally
75   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:32:25

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Shit yer, that's his bro...

Applogies, Ciaran.

SSN HAVE JUST SAID WE ARE DEFO STILL ACTIVE.
Steve Fletcher
76   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:33:51

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Now on the OS!!
Aidy Dews
77   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:33:02

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Andy Burton on SSN as just said he’s been speaking to Kenwright and that he is working on a few things to try and get deals tied up, not including the Heitinga deal, other deals besides that!, You just know with Kenwright saying that we're not going to sign nobody, but aye, watch this space!. =) Hehehe.
Sean McNally
78   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:34:32

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WHO IS IT WE'RE TRYING TO SIGN???
Lewis Austin
79   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:34:06

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SSN just said they spoke to Kenwright about 10 minutes ago, he said Heitinga’s done and he’s still WORKING on OTHER things. Oh fuck!
Dave Southon
80   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:37:31

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Arrgh!!! More than ten people trying to get on the OS???
John Martin
81   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:37:17

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Come on, BK — prove me wrong in the next 22 mins...
David Barks
82   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:34:19

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And I don’t see how anyone can complain about the signing of Heitinga, or in fact the signings that we have made, period.

Heitinga is a class player, first choice for Holland and Atletico Madrid, now in an Everton shirt. He will undoubtedly improve our quality of play. Distin was a very solid signing and will give us a solid defense until Jagielka gets back, and then provide options at that point. Diniyar comes with praise from his Russian manager Hiddink who’s opinion I will take before many people posting on a forum.

So we’ve replaced Jacobsen with Heitinga, a huge improvement. Lescott with Distin, just about as good in my opinion and at a very good price. And Van der Meyde with Diniyar, who just by the fact that he is actually still a professional footballer is a huge improvement.

David Chait
83   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:34:48

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Nice one!! If this works to potential we have pulled off 3 very good players for the price of 1..... I remember us being after Distin before Lescott... The Ruski may be a great find... and first choice Dutch RB. Not bad actually chaps for the summer — if they play to potential....!!! Not the VDM factor but the team as a whole is better definitely.
Stephen Foster
84   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:33:42

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Disappointing summer??

Jo, Bily, Distin, Heitenga..

Replacing..
Jacobsen, Castillio, Lescott, VDM

Personally, I think these additions will make us a lot stronger.
Mike Green
85   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:39:41

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Its amazing the difference that’s made to my day. Dutch Player of the Year 2008?!?! Get in there!

Now - pull out the big one boys - where’s that right winger!!!!!!
Dave Roberts
86   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:39:18

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Don’t get too excited folks! Kenwright will come on SKY at 5:05 pm and say he tried to sign Gerrard but it was a no go!
David Chait
87   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:40:34

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Exactly... hence I was on the sell Lescott bandwagon. Definitely a stronger team... even if it was not what Moyes had in mind... or was it??
Simon Kirwan
88   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:44:36

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Kenwright has told SSN we are not yet done! C'mon, Bill — don't let us down and unveil Alan Smith!
Nick Xenos
89   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:44:15

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Kipper is saying that we’ve gone in for a last-minute bid on Defour, a la Fellaini. Another report says the Banega could be coming on loan after all. Let’s see!
David Chait
90   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:43:20

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I’m still very curious how we knew to go for him at such a low price, only 1 year into Madrid contract. He's been paid well... and we snap him up?!?!? Someone had a word in Moyesie's ear for sure!!
Aidy Dews
91   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:44:52

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I've just seen were trying to get in Defour from Standard Liege in these last few minutes, that would be another cracking signing. Come on, Kenwright, for once, don't let us down and get us another quality player in!!!
David Chait
92   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:46:13

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Watch this space!
Dave Roberts
93   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:43:14

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Seriously, I think any late registrations can be faxed to the FA without signatures as long as all parties agree. Whether or not we get this player I would love to know who it is....probably a loan deal or a drip deal for Bentley? Probably a loan deal if it is him as I can’t see him signing a permanent contract for us when he probably thought he was going to Shitty on megabucks when he woke up this morning!
Simon Walker
94   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:45:31

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Heitinga footage on SSN with him parading a Blues shirt, they said earlier that he’s quickly jetting off to re-join the Dutch squad so I wouldn’t expect any in-depth interviews this week.

Laughing at Richard Dunne deal falling through for Villa because apparently he’s demanding £1mil from Man City for the termination of his current contract... Dunne may not be going anywhere. (Nothing to do with Everton as far as I know, just find it funny to see Villa fecked over for a change.)
Jay Harris
95   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:47:55

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It’s rumoured to be Defour and if it is it would make a huge difference to my feelings about EFC right now.
Matthew Salem
96   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:49:24

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Another 10 min! Fucking get in, Everton, get us Defour!
David Chait
97   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:51:02

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I would literally print out a pic of Kenwright and jizz all over it if Defour came in... but surely not! They are in the CL this year!!
Chris Jones
98   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:50:32

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Celtic have (re)signed China’s captain Zheng Zhi, a "versatile midfielder". Maybe they will now look to sell us Scott Brown?
Chris Jones
99   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:52:35

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And don’t give up come 5pm people. I recall last year the news of some deals didn’t filter through till an hour or two after the window shut (sorry to prolong the agony for you all!).
Dan Brierley
100   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:44:36

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I don't think anybody can disagree, we have ended the transfer window with a stronger team than what we ended the season with. Of course, the new players are not tested yet, but their reports are quite impressive. So once the other 50 million quid’s worth of talent gets back in the team:

Howard
Heitinga Jags Distin Baines
Pienaar Arteta Cahill Bily
Yakubu Saha

Fellaini
Osman
Jo
Anichebe
Neville/Yobo
Rodwell

Thats not a bad fucking team is it? I’d still question playing Cahill in a 442, but for some reason he seems to play a lot better alongside Arteta. And on the bench, players that can change the game, and players that can sure up the defense. Is it really so bad as some people make out? Relegation fodder? You’re having a fucking laugh.
Simon Kirwan
101   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:55:00

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I reckon somebody from Cardiff City.
Daniel Marfany
102   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:52:57

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Best transfer window in ages (except for the outgoing player of course). Could have done with Banega but overall I’m well pleased with it all.

Alright there Matt (Salem)!
Stephen Foster
103   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:54:04

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The ther good thing about Distin, Bily, and Heitinga, they all seem like natural leaders... which I think we have been lacking in the team a little
Chris Jones
104   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:58:30

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Someone quoted on BBC site saying a fee has been agreed with Standard for Dufour! Apparently we have a delegation over there.
Tony Marsh
105   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:55:19

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Now Johnny Heitinga has signed I think it ain't too bad a summer after all. If JH means no more Hibbert then I am happy. Osman should be replaced by Bily/Pienaar so that's made me happy as well.

I wonder how we have been able to meet Johnny's pay demands though... and if we have, will it open acan of worms? Ah who gives a shit, at least we have got things right once!
COYBS
Andy Codling
106   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:00:34

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Chris, that was posted by someone called "Dave the Rave"!!!!
Chris Jones
107   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:00:38

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Slam!
Dave Southon
108   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:01:02

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Not Guilty
Dave Roberts
109   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:00:45

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Chris Jones

Is that right!!!
David McKitt
110   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:02:37

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Was that a positive post from you Tony!?.. Things are looking up!
David Barks
111   Posted 01/09/2009 at 16:59:07

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We are a stronger side, and despite the fact that other clubs don’t do this, selling a player at a profit and using those funds to bring in three new players is how the business SHOULD operate. A business should operate using funds it generates. I’m actually very pleased with our summer. We are a stronger team than what we were at the end of last season, especially with Arteta and Yak due back in weeks, and Jagielka due back in a month or two.
Nick Xenos
112   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:02:25

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Wikipedia had Heitenga as our player well be for it was announced, with the No 5 jersey too. That’s now got me refreshing Defour’s wiki page. Hope it wil be updated soon!
Chris Jones
113   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:02:52

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Quoting the page on the Beeb’s web site...

"From Dave the rave, via text on 81111: "Everton delegation in Liege - Steven Defour fee agreed! My mate’s mum works for Liege and told me about Fellaini last year.""
Kristian Boyce
114   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:05:40

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David Barks,

Ok 3 transfers from one sale, but who has come in for the 3-4 others who left over the summer?
Chris Jones
115   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:04:34

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LOL, the Wikipedia page says...

"Steven’s mother is originally from Merseyside, moving to Belgium to work as a lobbyist where she met Steven’s father."

All together now, "He’s coming home..." (we hope)
Tony Gee
116   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:05:31

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Ciaran..

"We may sign Heitinga... but who cares? He’s simply cover"

Stop saying silly things just to provoke a response lad... very soon, people are just gonna ignore you...

Matthew Salem
117   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:01:11

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David, if we still got Defour, print me a copy. I’ll join in. Danny mate... what’s a nice lad like you doing in a place like this? :D
Jamie Tulacz
118   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:08:33

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Kristian Boyce, to be fair, of the 3 others who left the club, only 1 of them (Jacobsen) actually played at all last season. We have a replacement now for Jacobsen in Heitinga now anyway.
Simon Walker
119   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:08:22

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Sky geezer still saying he thinks there’s more to come from Everton...
Andy Codling
120   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:12:37

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Bill Kenwright said on SSN he was working on another????? Another phantom signing, where is the Sky money, you prick? (Hope this comes back to bite me on the arse as well!!!!!)
Brian Williams
121   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:12:14

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Tony Gee: That's exactly what we should all do mate... He’s an attention seeker, pure and simple!
Dan Brierley
122   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:08:39

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Kristian, are those the three or four players that couldn’t get into the first team you mean? The ones that ended up at Blackburn, Wolves and one which hasn’t found a club? You think we should sign a few more dead weights to eat up wages?

David Barks is spot on. If you sell one, but improve the overall squad with three others in area’s crying out for it, how is that a bad thing?
Neil Pearse
123   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:06:47

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Not bad at all, although it really would have been great to get Banega or Defour (wish I could believe the latter, but seems unlikely now). Lot of weight on young Rodwell’s shoulders.

Still, we are clearly stronger, and Moyes has clearly bought to address the ’right hand side problem’. Regular Russian and Dutch international will certainly do for me (remember a few years ago we were talking about buying Nugent and Reo-Coker??).

Also see how everyone (apart from Man City and to some extent Spurs) has been hit by the financial crisis? Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool (could hopefully be in deep shit this season if Torres and/or Gerrard get injured) have spent less than they took in. Villa are weaker without Laursen and Barry. Portsmouth much weaker, Fulham and West Ham certainly no better probably weaker.

So no excuses Moyes! This squad should be able to achieve top 6 again.
Al Reddish
124   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:15:35

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SSN say more news to come from Everton!!
Simon Kirwan
125   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:15:33

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The most important thing is that we have adressed our weakest parts of our team in RB and RM.
Simon Walker
126   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:17:24

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CONFIRMED - No more from Kenwright, Sky geezer says "Spoke to big Bill, didn’t manage to get anyone over the line"
Andy Codling
127   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:18:29

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SSN says Kenwright's day is over ... NO MORE PLAYERS!

What a wanker... where's the money, you cunt?!?!

Carl Ormerod
128   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:18:39

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From Wikipedia (a reliable source!)

Steven Defour (born 15 April 1988 in Mechelen) is a Belgian footballer who played for Standard Liège until his last-minute transfer to Everton on September 1st 2009. He is well known for his playmaking ability and vision.
Nick Xenos
129   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:17:32

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According to wiki... Defour has signed and will be wearing No 9. Hope it’s true!
David Ellis
130   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:02:02

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Let’s face it, the squad and the first team is now stronger than a year ago. Not much difference between Distin and Lescott. And now we hopefully have a quality wide player in Bily and a player that can either replace Tony Hibbert at right back or play centre mid and allow Neville to play his best position.

We also have 4 serviceable centre backs at the club (Johnny H, Distin, Yobo and Jags) for the first time in over 12 months.

We now have several credible permutations of our first XI and different formations available. This will allow us to play more players in their natural positions than before. Cahill is less likely to need to play as a defensive midfielder. Osman’s days on the flanks should be over, except as cover. No need to play Fellaini and Cahill in the same team. This is definitely a good step forward and has cost us nothing thanks to the Arabs.

A couple of pieces in the jigsaw still missing but hopefully two more pieces were completed during this summer.

ps: Why does everyone think that Pienaar would do so well down the middle — has anyone seen him play there?
Simon Walker
131   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:19:45

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Fuck wiki, anyone can edit that right? I doubt Kenwright would suffocate any news story when he can let the rumours fly...
Kristian Boyce
132   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:15:03

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Dan Brierley, I’m not exactly talking about deadweights, but actual squad players, so we don’t have to survive with a bench full of 17-year-olds.
Chris Jones
133   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:22:27

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Wiki now says...

"On signing for Everton, he said he was delighted to return to the home of his mother, and commented that his Grandad used to attend matches in the Boy’s Pen back in the 50s."

Fantasy fotball?
David Barks
134   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:22:33

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Kristian Boyce, Who are these players we lost who were not deadwood?
Tony Gee
135   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:21:46

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News just in... Bill has "ring-fenced" £40 million for transfers for next January's transfer window... phew!
Andy Codling
136   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:26:07

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So we havee spent £21 million from the sale of Lescott. So where is the SKY money, the kitbag deal money, the money for finishing fifth twice with a cup final in as well????
Fuck you, Kenwright.
Nick Xenos
137   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:26:14

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David Ellis, I believe Pienaar played at centre-mid in his Ajax days and also plays in that position for SA. He looked very bright there during the Confeds Cup.
Cathal Naughton
138   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:25:38

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The whole Wiki thing was funny with the our portugese friend. You need to work on some new methods Chris/Carl, but humerous all the same.
Dan Brierley
139   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:22:51

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Well we wont need to will we Kris? Because Distin, Heitinga and Bily are first team calibre players. This means that three current first teamers will drop to the bench to join Jo, Gosling, Yakubu & Rodwell/Neville. But as to who that will be, take your pick from the underperformers.
Will Green
140   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:28:02

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News on Defour from wiki, I quote
"Steven’s mother is originally from Merseyside, moving to Belgium to work as a lobbyist where she met Steven’s father. On signing for Everton, he said he was delighted to return to the home of his mother, and commented that his Grandad used to attend matches in the Boy’s Pen back in the 50s."

Haaaa fantastic, I’m going to do one on the Messi page, say his mother was a prostitute from Toxteth, and got knocked up in the 70s, hey it could have happened.

Kristian Boyce
141   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:25:53

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Every year the squad gets smaller and smaller, fair enough the team may be stronger, but our squad's are weaker. The game today is about having a strong squad, and year after year Moyes has done nothing to fix it. Prime example was last season, when we couldn’t even field a recognized striker.
Simon Walker
142   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:28:34

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Lol at the Defour Wiki entry, obviously it’s real "Steven’s mother is originally from Merseyside, moving to Belgium to work as a lobbyist where she met Steven’s father. On signing for Everton, he said he was delighted to return to the home of his mother, and commented that his Grandad used to attend matches in the Boy’s Pen back in the 50s. His idol is said to be Alan Ball, while he thinks Stevie Gerrard is a diving thug who ought to be in prison."
Will Green
143   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:32:54

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Can we still sign players out of contract?
Chris Jones
144   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:34:30

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I can’t claim any credit for the Wiki rubbish I was only reporting what is was saying.

I see Nugent has just signed for Burnley. Not quite as exciting eh?!
Dan Brierley
145   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:31:18

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Kenwright has stole it Andy Codling, report him to the coppers. Or even better, perform a citizens arrest on match day.

Believe it or not, sometimes its not wise for a business to spend every penny that they have in the bank. Players tend to get a bit pissed off if you do not pay them for 12 months....
Matthew Salem
146   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:34:23

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The pictures of Heitinga on the OS are funny. He is either really jet-lacked or not too excited to have joined us. Come on Johnny mate, crack us a smile...
Andy Codling
147   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:36:41

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Dan bury your head in the sand mate.
The guy is a liar.
Stephen Foster
148   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:32:41

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Andy... who’s to say we didn't TRY to spend more? There's no point spending it on any old crap. I thought people would be happy, can not believe how negative some people on here are??
Chris Jones
149   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:36:17

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On the BBC site:

"1734: The one rumour that is persisting is the Steven Defour to Everton transfer."

Are they reading this thread and the (ever more hilarious) wiki page?. I think we should be told.

"Steven Defour (born 15 April 1988 in Mechelen) is a Belgian footballer who plays for Standard Liège. He is well known for his playmaking ability and vision. His father is a good friend of Bill Kenwright, after spending many matches in the boys pen with him during the 50’s. Defours father also coined the phrase ’watch this space’"

ROFL.
John Martin
150   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:37:35

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While we have brought in 3 good players, which hopefully means a stronger 1st team, I can't help but feel let down by the board. We signed these players with the Lescott money. In real terms we have not invested any new cash into transfers and yet people still beleive Billy Liar. Once again, it's down to Moyes to save his neck and come up trumps in the transfer market.
Andy Codling
151   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:38:13

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Stephen, why are these things left to the last fucking minute? I AM happy with Heitinga, but we have one of the smallest squads in the Premier League. We also have the lengthy Europa this season as well.

Mark my words, come January, we will get the usual, "we dont like doing business in January" blah blah blah... Another Midfielder would have been nice. But then again Kenwright did get rid of Peter Johnson....

Nick Xenos
152   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:42:44

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@ Matthew - maybe Heitinga doesn’t like our shirt design. Wait until he sees the pink pin-striped one!
Chris Jones
153   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:46:50

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"... why are these things left to the last fucking minute?"

Money. Buy three £40k a week players on 1 July and that’s over £1 million in wages. Add on National insurance contributions, insurance payments and other sundries and you’re probably closer to one and a quarter million!
Chris Jones
154   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:49:36

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i.e. in the interim, up to today (1 July - 1 September).
Neil Pearse
155   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:40:54

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Guys, it’s not a huge addition and I really wish we’d got Banega/Defour, but we’ve clearly spent more than the Lescott money.

Over £3M of the Lescott £22M went to Wolves. Bily (£9M) plus Heitinga (up to £7M) plus Distin (£6M) = £22M. In addition Heitinga and Bily will clearly raise the wage bill compared to Jacobsen and AvdM - probably by around £2M in total. So net increase is probably around £4-5M in total. (Of course all these deals are combinations of buying now and paying later.)

It appears from what’s happened that we could also afford one more big loan deal - Banega. Nice to think we also had £10M odd to splash on Defour, but I doubt it.

So we’ve obviously spent a bit more but not a lot more than the Lescott money. Given what other clubs for the most part (Man City and Spurs excepted) haven’t spent, all the signs are that the banks following the crisis last year were not prepared to countenance higher debt levels. And most owners (from Abramovich down) have been tightening the purse strings.

We are stronger, so that’s the main thing. Does leave me wondering where the hell Tottenham get all their money from though?
Simon Walker
156   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:44:10

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When you’re asking the board to spend any income from the season you should ask them how they pay off their massive fuckin loans from the millions of pounds we’re in debt (aren’t we?) I quite liked the look of Jacobsen but at least we can afford someone who isn’t gonna be a VDM style leach on the wages kitty and I’m a happy fella tonight.

Win over Wigan, if that was Manure they’d say as ever, they win without playing well, they came, they parked the bus, we nicked it.

I really don’t think we should be looking for Billy to be a big star this year, I reckon Moyes’ll have him put a shed load of weight on before he’s a regular, in the mean time I reckon Osman will look better when he’s not having to cover back for Hibbert all the feckin time.

Bit worried by Yobo, don’t think he’s looked like the same player since his Brother got kidnapped at the start of last season, suppose it doesn’t help when he’s not getting regular games, again, I think he’ll look better when Pip plays in front of him instead of alongside him.

All in all a good Summer I reckon, shame about the Burnley game but at least it was an away fixture we fecked up.

I’m off to get pissed o/
Kristian Boyce
157   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:54:04

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"All in all a good Summer I reckon, shame about the Burnley game but at least it was an away fixture we fecked up."

Simon, you say your off to get pissed now, are you sure you haven’t had a one too many already. A GOOD SUMMER? — you're having a laugh.
Ian Pratt
158   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:58:54

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Steven Defour's Wiki page is going mental with all the updates... haha.
Neil Pearse
159   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:59:38

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Kristian - You preferred Jacobsen and AvdM to Heitinga and Bily did you?
Raymond Choi
160   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:00:22

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Yeah apparently Defour just signed for us, Arsenal, Liverpool and Notts County in the last five minutes ffs.
Simon Walker
161   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:00:49

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Nah Kristian, I’m a realist not like all you feckin idiot dreamers who seem to want us to go the same way as Leeds United.

;) laters
John Martin
162   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:00:32

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Billy Liar just confirmed he failed in last ditch efforts to sign Gerrard, Torres & Ronaldo but moved to assure fans he’ll be working 24 hours a day 7 days a week making hundreds of calls to sign some more players in January. Well as soon as Man Utd bid for Rodwell anyway.
Steve Edwards
163   Posted 01/09/2009 at 17:58:17

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I’m surprised so many of you are so upbeat. Do you really think the players that we have brought in will bring us up to the next level? In the end, that's what it is all about. Incidentally, I am happy with the Russian and the Dutchman but it's not enough.

We have actually spent fuck all, that's right — sweet FA and I personally think that it's an absolute disgrace. We sold the Clingon and spent the money that we got for him, not a penny more. I am absolutley seething and I think that Kenwright owes the supporters an explanation as to what the fuck has been going on.
James Stewart
164   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:03:28

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Ha Neil sorry to burst your bubble but we will not have spent more than the proceeds from Lescott. The way Everton do deals is not in one lump sum! Everyone should know this by now!

Yet another tranfser window closes with Kenwright in the black! Cunt! We clearly sold to be able to buy and any rubbish that the OS come out with will not wash with me.
Pathetic!
David Barks
165   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:07:04

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Steve Edwards,

Do the math again and you will see we did spend a penny more. Take your time, account for everything.
Andy Codling
166   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:06:24

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Or Steve you can choose to bury your head in the sand and have fuck all said about Billy Bullshit and be happy with mediocrity.

Or according to Simon Walker, you can be a fucking idiot by thinking we should sign players of Defour's and Banega's quality when we've got Osman!!!!!

Kristian Boyce
167   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:04:37

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Neil, at no point have I said that... I’m really happy about the three new players, but where are the others Moyes said he needed? I think that I’m being the realist, we still need more coverage all over the team, but the sound of it people are happy at what we have got. The three players that we brought in are great, but where is the ambition of the club to push us forward?
Neil Pearse
168   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:07:27

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Not true we only spent the Lescott money Steve - see my post above. Not a lot more, I grant you. Clearly we are not rich, but that’s hardly news. The point surely is that at least we’ve strengthened in a year when I can only see Man City and Spurs doing a lot more.
Anthony Millington
169   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:05:02

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Simon, we’ve hardly spent much more than the Lescott money have we. Bily £9 mill, Distin £5.25 mill and Heitinga £6 mill. That adds up to about £20 million. And you say Heitinga and Bily’s wages are more than Jacobsen’s and Van der Meyde’s... well Van der Meyde was on about £25/30k and you are forgetting Valente's, Castillo's and Lescott’s wages.

On a positive note at least we have signed Bily and a good right back in Heitinga and maybe Hibbert and Osman may not be guaranteed regular starts from now on.
David Barks
170   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:12:09

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Happy with mediocrity??? We are coming off of a season which saw us in the FA Cup Final, and we now have a much stronger team than we did last season. How is that accepting mediocrity? We have improved greatly as a team, that’s not debatable.
Nick Entwistle
171   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:12:19

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Nice to have three signings who can all play the ball. But waiting two weeks after the season has started is just dreadful.

I would have liked them in earlier and a couple of keen youngsters who have played first team in the lower leagues... oh, but we dithered there didn’t we.
Simon Walker
172   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:13:21

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Making the step up doesn’t happen in one summer of spending when you can’t afford to spend much or can’t afford the wages. You need to continue to improve, every year you gotta get a little better and broker deals with people you can afford, both in the sense of their transfer and their wages. Anyone who thinks we can make the step up to the top of the league in one summer is living in a fucking dream world. Oh yeah, twitchy Harry might get us there but we’d be totally and utterly financially fucked when he left us.

At the end of last season I thought we might push for 4th this season but the temporary form of Spurs & big spending City has kind of tempered that feeling, I honestly think we want to be looking at another 3 or 4 years of consistent Europa qualification and a domestic cup in that time, all the while improving then hopefully breaking into the top 4. You gotta work to your means and our means ain’t much.

I never said I think Osman is good, I just said that I think he might look better when he’s not playing in front of Hibbert, that’s until Bily can add some weight cos he looks proper lightweight to me, I could be wrong and he’s a right little tricky fecker but he just looks like he’s get muscled off everything right now.

James Stewart
173   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:15:17

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Please be aware that Heitinga is primarily a CB!! Who can fill in at RB. Very similar to Jagielka & he didn’t exactly set the world alight at RB.

I’ll reserve judgment on this one.
Alec Laurie
174   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:17:15

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At least "Johnny Heitinga" fits nicely into the "Tommy Gravesen" song...

(Yes, I am clutching at straws!)
Neil Pearse
175   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:12:54

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Kristian (and others) - what we lack is MONEY!!!!!! Ambition has nothing to do with it. We don’t buy more because we don’t have the money. We don’t buy sooner because we can’t afford it and get better deals at the end of the window.

(I love this idea that Kenwright and Elstone sit there going, "You know, we could afford to buy Banega outright for £12M - but, frankly, I just don’t have the ambition for our club and can’t be arsed...")

I’m happy we are stronger, especially because I don’t see many around us strengthening. And Bily, Distin and Heitinga for not a lot more than Lescott is by any standards a pretty amazing deal.

But nothing of course changes the fact that we still need to get a new richer owner and new sources of revenue if we are to compete with the top 4 plus now Man City and Spurs.

Anyone who thought we were suddenly going to find the £25M+ to realistically start challenging the top 4 (6?) is living in some kind of dream world.
Simon Walker
176   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:17:32

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... and I didn’t say we shouldn’t try to sign players like Banega, of course we should try but when stuff conspires against you there’s not much you can do, be happy with what you got and don’t expect them to spend another £10mil just to keep whining idiots happy, it would have been £10mil pissed up a wall if that was the case.

The Banega deal was done until a late cash injection came to Valencia and they reneged on it, they resorted to telling big fat lies in the media to turn the deal around and have Banega stay at he club — What the fuck can BK & Moyes do about that? Absolutely fuck all is what.
Steve Edwards
177   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:17:30

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David Barks — You must be really splitting hairs. I make it £21 million, I can’t be far out. I take it then that your quite happy with the business done, well, you're easily pleased. Let's see how far it gets us this season. At best it will help us to stand still.
Neil Pearse
178   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:24:20

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On wages: Distin won’t be on much if anything less than Lescott. And Bily and Heitinga sure as hell aren’t on £25/30k a week (try double). Rodwell has a new deal. The wage bill has gone up.

But that always happens, no? No. Try Portsmouth and West Ham.
John Martin
179   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:31:40

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Sadly, Steve, as decent as the 3 players are that we have brought in, we won't even be standing still as City (and maybe even Spurs who finally seem to have got there act together to go with investment) will finish higher than us.
Kristian Boyce
180   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:34:06

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I’m fully aware about the money issue. One point though that pretty much makes any argument on here void. What would of happened if we didn’t sell Lescott last week? Where would the money appear from to bring in the players that Moyes said he needed? The whole time he has stated he has needed back up for the CB area, and the right side.
Steve Edwards
181   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:38:36

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John - Is right. I did say the best we could do would be to stand still. Some people on here deserve all they get. It's just a pitty that I have to eat shit along with the rest of them.
Mike Green
182   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:16:26

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Looks like we’ve got some real flexibility and quality at the back now and should Saha stay fit with Yak and Lord Timothy of Cahill for attacking options I’d have to say we’re not doing to bad up there either — would like to see someone really nippy up there too but there we are.

So well done DM but I our midfield still seems messy to me. Any ideas on how our midfield is going to pan out? I’d really like to see Pienaar go right if he can, put Mikel in centre when fit but need someone alongside him and someone behind these to put the boot in. Pip behind? JR ideally but not tough enough yet for me. Like I saw — it's a mess — or I just cant see something thats staring me in the face.

Think Heitinga could be a bit of a legend mind. Looking forward to finding out
Conor Waters
183   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:34:27

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Neil, I agree fully regarding the calibre of players we brought in, at the expense of one (Lescott). You would have to be a complete idiot not to realise that the addition of an international utility player, a seasoned centre back and a tricky winger far outweighs the loss of one money grabbing whore, who, let's all be honest, is barely worth £10m (if he’s so fucking good, how come he’s a perennially unused sub for England?).

I’m happy with today's outcome, wish it wasn't always last-minute stuff but hey, it cant always be plain sailing.

As for the Banega deal, the stench of a rat is definitely in the air. You can’t apply for a work permit publically without some kind of deal being struck. We got screwed by Valencia, just like we did by Sheff Utd over the Naughton deal. And come to think of it, the Manny deal too.

And that has nothing to do with Blue Bill, Moyes or any of the board room staff. Sometimes business is tough. Every agent out there is only interested in making a few quid and most clubs aren’t any different.
Steve Edwards
184   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:43:04

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Mike - Sounds about right we’ll carry on putting square pegs in round holes.
John Martin
185   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:45:42

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My most recent memory of Heitinga is James Milner roasting him during the 2nd half of the recent England v Holland friendly.
Neil Pearse
186   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:40:56

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Fair point Kristian: we are not very rich. Without the Lescott sale I expect we would have made one significant buy and gone for more loans. Thank God (as it were) for rich Arabs.

Man City and Spurs clearly now have better squads than us. If we supported them we would be screaming blue murder if we weren’t able to finish above Everton.

But let’s see what happens. If we can keep the injuries to a reasonable level I still think we are in with a shout in the top 6. Villa have been poor for the last 6-8 months and seem to be in some disarray. Liverpool may well struggle. Man City may not settle. Spurs perenially flatter to deceive. We are in with a shout with this squad.
Steve Edwards
187   Posted 01/09/2009 at 18:53:12

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Neil - and pigs may fly!
Glen Anderson
188   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:00:34

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For all the conspiracy theorists out there, I read the below article on Goal.com that explains that Defour received death threats from Anderlecht and Poland fans after this Sunday’s derby game.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/755/europe/2009/09/01/1474358/standard-liege-stars-defour-witsel-receive-death-threats

I remember that last year the Fellaini transfer was announced near midnight after Everton successfully filed all paperwork in time for the 5pm deadline and tied up loose ends until midnight, so the same might, just might be true of the Defour rumours. Plus, the death threats if true may provide him with the motivation to move to Goodison.
Neil Pearse
189   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:02:44

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We will see Steve! We’ve finished above stronger and more expensive squads before. All I’m saying is we have a decent squad and are in with a good shout.
Steve Edwards
190   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:06:15

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Neil - I don’t know what you eternal optimists are on but right now I could do with a bucket of it.
Andy Codling
191   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:08:44

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So David Barks and Simon Walker would you agree that we are a selling club? That we sign players bring them on and then sell them? Because without the Andy Johnson money last year ,we would not have signed anyone and without the Lescott money this year, we wouldnt have signed anyone.

Personally I am sick of the lies that eminate from our luvvie chairman and can categorically state I will not be going to some medium ranged ground in Kirkby. Wonder how quick it will be before Billy Bullshits 8 year, 24/7 search for invest comes after we have moved.

I'd like the chairman to tell us were the money is going to (Sky, Kitbag, Sponsor), even if he tells us... YES it is ring-fenced for our virtually free stadium.

Ste Boyle
192   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:11:30

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Glen, I like it, but my Mrs might not. I’ll be watching Sky Sports News for the rest of the night waiting for the ’Breaking News’ banner.

What annoys me is Kenwright claiming at 4:30pm that he was still working on a deal but it didn't come off. WHY wasn't the deal being worked on weeks ago? Then we may have had a chance to complete it. Bloody typical.

On a positive note, gotta be happy with who have come in, for a central midfielder though. Kranjcar was a missed opportunity...

Neil Pearse
193   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:12:26

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Not an eternal optimist at all Steve — just seeing that only Man City and Spurs have really strengthened, we are stronger, and we’ve done it before a few times. I will be really disappointed if we are not top 7 again at least.

I also have a sneaking suspicion — maybe hope — that the RS will come a real cropper this season. I’d take Mascherano, Gerrard, Torres and maybe Johnson for our equivalents. But not much else.
John Martin
194   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:17:58

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At least we have learned one thing from this transfer window. It's not Dave dithering. We sold Lescott and he bought 3 players straight away with the proceeds. Delays over transfers I will be putting firmly at the door of Bullshit Billy.
Allan Jones
195   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:21:52

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It’s clear the deal being worked on late by Kenwright involved a loan deal or a possible transfer involved a loan + a big bag of jelly babies and a £5 book token!

We have no more money, we’re a club who are realists in a world of wannabe clubs spending stupid amounts of money on average players! OK, I don’t really think that Heitinga is that good! Anyone who saw hime in the recent friendly will know that but I think the £7M has been spent because he covers a few positions (Jack of all trades master of none)...

Let’s believe in Moyes because I think this could be his last year before he gets fed up of the Bull from Billy! He’s been 80% right in the past!

One more thing: Never, Ever do I wanna deal with Valencia again... In the past we had the Fernandes fiasco and now Banega? We must have been given some sort of green light to loan him before we got the work permit so I don’t see why they changed their mind so dramatically, AGAIN!

Mike Green
196   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:14:10

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Glen - forgive me if I’m wrong but that was becuase the transfer deadline with Fellaini was midnight....? As opposed to todays which 5pm? Or am I going mad....?

I just desperatly feel we’ve got a group of midfielders who are decent but more than the sum of their parts when put together on the pitch. Bottom line is we dont have a quality central midfield partnership and nothing on the right which bothers me because with it I think we’d be a fucking good team. I guess the answer is Bily, Mikel and Pienaar with a rottweiler to win the ball and play to one of these three - but Pip, Rodwell, Fellaini, Osman, Gosling this aint. Maybe it could be Heitinga....
Dick Anderson
197   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:30:17

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Last year the transfer deadline ran right up until midnight. That was why we were able to sign Fellaini at such a late hour.

This season the deadline was set for an earlier time of 5pm. That time has come and gone now so we can forget Steven Defour.
Steve Edwards
198   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:20:28

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Neil, Your obviously quite happy with the way we have been for the last few seasons. Well I’m not, an opportunity existed to push a bit more. I agree we may be a bit stronger, maybe but the fact that other teams have pushed on means that the only way we can go is backwards. Therefore considering that I was not happy before its pretty safe to say that I’m going to be less happy now.

There must have been at least 10 million more available to Moyes considering the bids put in for players before the Clingon money came on tap. What will now happen to that. I’ll tell you, you’ll never see it again made available for players. It will probably swell the coffers of destination Kirkby, which will no doubt please a few on here or maybe not.

Franny Porter
199   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:36:17

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Cracking lie on SSN before, after trying to contact BK for over an hour, he ’revealed’ at 17:01 that he had been on the phone for the last 40 minutes trying to sort some last-minute deals.

Thing is, my ma works as a cleaner at Goodison, and she looked in the window of BK’s office at 16:45 and he wasn't even on the phone! He was sat with his feet up having a sherry with Paul O’Grady whilst watching Joseph and his Technicolour Dreamcoat in glorious high def!!!! The lying bastard strikes again.....
Glen Anderson
200   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:39:01

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Dick and Mike - I just checked and yes, unfortunately you’re right. I just had this memory of going to bed at about 00:30 on this day last year thinking our dealings were done and waking up to learn we’d signed Screech. Oh well, I’m happy with Jo, Bily, Distin and Heitinga during this window and am now looking forward to January. COYB!
Neil Pearse
201   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:39:26

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Steve - no "opportunity" existed for us to decisively move on, because we don’t have the money at this time. That’s why we need a new owner and some new revenues. So I TOTALLY think we need to move on.

But I am happy that we seem to have done a pretty good job with the Lescott deal and what money we had. I am happy that we have a stronger squad than we did at the same time last year.

And only two other teams ’pushed on’ - Man City and Spurs. Even Liverpool and ManUtd have gone backwards in terms of their squads.
Ray Robinson
202   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:52:54

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We’ve signed a right winger! Log onto the offical site home page and have a look at the video centre right. Who does that remind you of? Don’t mention the war though!
Alan McGuffog
203   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:03:07

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Gentlemen please... enough of this "Clingon" business. I assume it refers to a former player who now plies his trade at Eastlands. This player served us well and left to double his salary as will Rodwell and any other promising player, in due course.

Get used to it and get over it.

Tom Bowers
204   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:49:35

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Okay... signing Distin and Heitinga gives me confidence that the back 4 will be stronger, especially when Jags is fit. Hopefully Heitinga will immediately be slotted in at right back barring injuries which always seems to plague many of our new signings.

My concern is bolstering the midfield with the kind of strength, speed and skill necessary to compete with the rest of the Prem. We have already seen the frailties that exist and was so apparent against Wigan.

I like Pienaar but he is far too often put on his backside by fouls and without Arteta we waste so many of the free kicks he has gained. Osman, Cahill and Fellaini lack the tackling qualities and the speed to chase back when necessary.

This is the area where we will continue to struggle unless this Russian lad has something special to offer.

Brian Foley
205   Posted 01/09/2009 at 14:48:12

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In reply to Chris Ashton, ever heard of happy hour, try it sometime. You think too much, friend. We DID sign Heitinga after all.

Moyesey in fairness signed three players of quality over a week; they all have a decent number of caps for their countries, and two of them will get a lot more. Two left footers to boot (pardon the pun), with Distin a virtual like-for-like defender. He's older, yes; he's more experienced, yes... and he was only about a quarter of the Lescott fee (take off Wolves' 10%).

£20 million for three players and not an Aquilani or a sprained ankle anywhere. Surprisingly a day when we paid the most for a player and all the top four were quiet, which made a nice change. I'm actually typing this one hour after the deadline and that guy Burton (with the moby on Sky Sports News), is enthusing over the Heitinga signing.

Bily will actually change the way we set our stall out, which will be nice, add Jags in and now we are looking strong at the back, so I for one look forward in anticipation; keep smiling our kid.

Ian Pilkington
206   Posted 01/09/2009 at 15:08:48

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Distin, Bilyaletdinov & Heitinga, although very welcome, add up to rather less than the fee for Lescott. Five first team players, including Lescott, departed in the summer, leaving an already injury-ravaged squad with a nett loss of TWO!

The EFC Board have therefore got away with a summer of negative investment. Please sell up as soon as possible in November when the outcome of DK is finally known.

Tom Campbell
207   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:20:23

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I’m down that we haven’t signed a creative midfielder but I suppose some of the money does need to be put aside for future stadia or redelevopment.
David Chait
208   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:21:57

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Many are going on how we haven’t signed a fast creative winger or midfielder..ummm.... how about this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVmMjkmkf5Q

Bily.... just because he isn’t a household name doesn’t mean he isn’t going to be awesome!
David Barks
209   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:18:36

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Ian Pilkington,

How do you figure that Heitinga at over £6 million, Distin at nearly £6 million, and Bilyaletdinov at about £10 million adds up to rather less than the Lescott fee? Lescott was sold for £22 million, about £3 million of which went to Wolves. Our signings totalled about £22 million, that’s a net £3 million more than Lescott’s fee. Then your five first team players leaving claim, who are these players??

I have Lescott, and maybe you could throw Jacobsen in there with his I think 5 appearances last season. Other than those two, very generous two, who are the other three first teamers? Please don’t tell me you’re including Valente and Van der Meyde in that, because they were not first team players. Castillo I suppose you could say was a first team option, but he also hardly played.

Meanwhile, we have brought in Jo, Heitinga, Bilyaletdinov and Distin. These four players are replacing Lescott, Jacobsen, Valente, Van der Meyde and Castillo. That is a huge improvement made to our team. And we also signed a few very promising youngsters in Garbutt, Mustafi, and one from the end of last season. We’ll have to see how they develop, but they were signings and money spent.

And add to that the fact that Rodwell is now an established first team player, when last season he was not. Gosling is a first team player, when last season he was not. This is not negative investment if you take the time to actually look at it player by player. We have a far stronger team this season than last.

David Chait
210   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:31:16

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Agreed Barks... I would have taken two quality players at the start... and for me Heitinga (hopefully) and Bily (definitely) are those two... We have lost a little in the middle but Distin is experienced and will do nicely....

I’m not thinking about whether we incurred more debt to buy players as a benchmark for success. I’m looking at the player for player movement and I’m very excited about what we have achieved.....

Just watch out for Bily.... man the kid excites me.. ok.. job done YouTube!
Paul Gladwell
211   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:28:18

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I can picture the scene in our boardroom now, Billy Bull has locked the door tight, poured himself a stiff whiskey put his feet up and whispered, "Thank fuck for that, Davey Boy, you never let me down." He must of been cursing Moyes and his stance knowing he needed him to sell Lescott to save his bacon.

Personally, I am quite pleased with the outcome as Lescott's best blue days were as left back anyway, when he got his favoured position back he was no better than most central defenders in the league.

But it does not hide the fact Billy Bull has got out of jail, milked a big transfer and that player will get all the stick whilst he will come out of his hideaway the next time we have a good run. I am just waiting for Ken Doddy to post how Bill yet again found the funds...

Rob Heib
212   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:36:39

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Not to drag this ordeal out any longer but I believe that the deadline this year (as last year) is 5pm; however, there is a capacity for a team to file an extension (if a deal is in the process of being completed) which allows them to go until midnight. I have no reason to believe this isn’t also the case this year.

Having said that, we’ve spent the Lescott money so I highly doubt that we’ll have another 11:59pm signing. I’m just saying that (unless I’m mistaken) it would be theoretically possible.
Graeme Bradman
213   Posted 01/09/2009 at 19:56:40

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Defence looks much sronger now, and Ciaran i think were you and i differ about our strength in midfield comes down to our rating of Fella as an out and out creative midfielder. I think if DM shows faith in him he has the touch and vision to develop into a top notch player in the centre. You talk about square pegs in round holes but the beauty of this midfield is they can all shift position making them difficult to pick up.The really interesting thing now is for the first time Neville is not in my first eleven.

Howard (Nash)
Heitinga, Jags, Distin, Baines (Hibbert) (Yobo) (Yobo) (Neville)
Rodwell (Neville)
Pienaar, Arteta, Fellaini, Bily (Osman) (Cahill) (Cahill) (Gosling)
Yak (Saha, Jo, Vaughan, or Anichebe)
Steve Edwards
214   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:27:37

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Neil - We offered £10 million for players before the Clingon money arrived so didn’t that exist? Moyes said that he was not going to sell Lescott. Therefore if he’s offering money for players he was not taking that into account. We’ve spent nothing. Surely we had some money to spend?? Teams with less support who didn’t do as well as us last year had some money to spend.

You seem to be making out that it's just the way it is, we’re skint. It's nobody's falt, how could I possibly think we could have some money to spend on players. The point is we did have some money to spend and we didn’t spend it. Another £10 million player may just have bought us that bit of class that may have made a difference to our season. I just think it is another wasted opportunitly.

Alan Clarke
215   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:33:22

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As happy as some of you less-ambitious fans seem to be, surely our actual manager isn’t that happy?

He said last week he wanted "4 maybe more." Since then we’ve signed TWO players. So what the fuck went on there then?

This whole summer has been an absolute monumental fuck up and someone should be held fucking responsible for it. I am in a Tony Marsh type rage this evening at the absolute fucking shambles that is the Everton board and Bill Fucking Kenwright. Kenwright has not backed his manager YET AGAIN. He has still walked away from this summer with a fucking profit.

The fact that anyone is happy with the position we’re in right now is beyond me. What an absolute fucking joke.
Kevin Hudson
216   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:51:12

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Can the morons please refrain from the "Clingon" references? When the RS started doing it, many of us kicked off... So knock it off... or, at the very least, spell it correctly: 'Klingon'.
Simon Templeman
217   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:49:43

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I understand that you are annoyed Alan, but I was led to believe making a profit was the point!? I feel sure that is what our wealthy competitors are aiming for.
Neil Pearse
218   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:54:50

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Steve - I don’t think we had £10M without pushing the debt further (which banks in their current states would be less willing to grant). Maybe the £5M odd for Naughton.

Alan - you can’t make a profit when you spend more on new players than you got in and substantially increase the wage bill.

Very disappointing not to get another central midfield signing. I’m not exactly breaking out the champagne myself, but It beats me how having a clearly better squad than a year ago is a "monumental fuck-up".
Steve Edwards
219   Posted 01/09/2009 at 20:58:12

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Kevin - get stuffed, I’ll call the twat what I like, cos thats what he behave like, a twat. I quite agree Alan, I can’t understand some people.
Richard Dodd
220   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:01:04

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As I accurately predicted weeks ago — albeit on insider information — Joleon Lescott was eventually sold and ALL the money from the sale made available for Davey to bring in top level signings. I got panned for saying that the delay was due to the manager’s ’posturing’ over the Lescott fee but we all now know that was precisely the canny game he was playing.

So it’s well done to Davey and congrats to Chairman Bill for once again being true to his word — every penny went back in signings!

Alan Clarke
221   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:06:43

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Don’t be facetious Simon. Kenwright has royally fucked up AGAIN. The fact that Kenwright had to make a profit by selling one of our best players is not a good business plan. These foreign owners want to make a profit by turning their club into a successful business and selling it on. We will never be a successful business if we sell our good young players — Rooney and Lescott — and buy older players.

All my worst fears are coming true under Kenwright: we sold Rooney, we failed to build on a 4th place finish, we’ve failed to build on a 5th place finish, we’ve sold Lescott, we’re moving to Kirkby. If he sells Rodwell in the near future, I swear I’ll buy a gun!

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever felt this let down. Here we were in a fantastic position to build after last season and Kenwright has not been able to back his manager in the transfer market. It’s time to go.

John Martin
222   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:28:10

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Heitinga can't play in Europe either.
Ian Pilkington
223   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:13:17

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David Barks, You really are an apologist for our abysmal Board aren’t you?

The point I was making — irrespective of whatever the fees for the 3 new players added up compare to that received for Lescott — is that the Board once again has failed to find significant investment for team strengthening.

You have correctly identified the other 4 players that have left the club, all of whom despite their limited appearances, were paid first team salaries.

You seem to believe that Jo is a new player; I thought he was on loan last season, but then I’m just a cynic who has watched this Club for nearly 50 years and simply want to see them win trophies again rather than being satisfied with 5th place and losing Cup Finalists.
Gavin Johnson
224   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:27:31

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4.45pm Wiki website (not the most reliable source I admit) stated "Steven Defour (born 15 April 1988 in Mechelen) is a Belgian footballer currently in discussions with Bill Kenwright of Everton FC".

9.30pm Wiki website states "Steven Defour (born 15 April 1988 in Mechelen) is a Belgian footballer who plays for Standard de Liège. He is well known for his playmaking ability and vision".

Maybe the rumours were true after all but the deal couldn’t be sealed!!!!
Simon Templeman
225   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:29:55

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No intention to offend Alan, however note the lack of spending within the SKY 4 today. There is a very cold wind on the way. I hope we can ride it out and come out stronger. On balance I really believe we have been very shrewd over the last 2 years. Before you suggest otherwise, I am nothing to do with Doddy!
Steve Edwards
226   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:33:05

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That's the problem, Ian. A lot of them on here have never known real success so they are happy with coming fifth. It's quite sad really...
John Martin
227   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:37:10

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The Sky 4 may not have spent much by there usual standards but they do have the advantage of being much better than us and we are trying to catch them. So I do see this as a missed opportunity.

5 years on and we still have to play 4-5-1 because we can't combine 2 of our midfielders to be effective in a 4-4-2. Or we can't adapt to play 4-3-3... IF — and it's a big if — Heitinga & Bily solve our problem areas of right back & right midfield, the money which some of our fans believe we have to spend in January must be spent on a powerful midfielder.

Steve Edwards
228   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:44:27

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John - There’s no chance of spending any of the money in January, its gone. Thats why I am so bitterly disappointed. I just see it as another lost opportunity. That money we got for the Clingon should have been a bonus and it wasn’t, it just gave Kenright the opportunity to hide behind it and pretend he was spending money.
Ernie Baywood
229   Posted 01/09/2009 at 21:43:38

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Alan, at least read what you write before you post.

How can turning a profit NOT be a good business plan? What industry are you in?!

I think we’ve done the best BUSINESS of the window - 1 first team player out and 3 players in. 2 that target the weakest part of our team, and one that covers the hole left by the departure. That Distin isn’t young is no problem to me - we need experience and leadership until Rodwell takes over that place and I think Distin has captained every club he’s played at.

That we turned a small profit is a real plus fr me. We bought a players for 5m and managed to get 3 players worth 22m and a few years of service out of him. Well done to all.

To people talking about ’the next level’, we’ve finished 5th for the last two seasons... do you have any idea how much we would have to spend to make "the next level"? HINT: Man City still probably haven’t managed it.

If we keep making progress then I’ll keep being happy.
Steve Edwards
230   Posted 01/09/2009 at 22:08:58

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Ernie - Until Rodwell takes over.
___________________

Unfortunately you're being a bit optimistic there. Anyone who pops their head above the parapet of mediocrity at Everton will be gone. You should know that by now.
Chris Leyland
231   Posted 01/09/2009 at 22:23:17

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Just read this below on Sky website. Cheeky twat about Spurs greatness and tradition making the difference.

Niko Kranjcar has revealed that he turned down Everton to seal a move to Tottenham. The Croatian midfielder quit Portsmouth on transfer deadline day to sign with former boss Harry Redknapp at Spurs. But the 25-year-old has revealed that he turned down the chance to switch to Goodison Park.

Speaking to Croatian newspaper Jutarnji List, he was asked whether Everton had bid for him, and he said: "This is true. Everton is also a big club but, in the end, the tradition and greatness of Tottenham made the difference."
John Martin
232   Posted 01/09/2009 at 22:27:16

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Steve I’m with you mate I don't believe their will be any cash for signings in January. I believe our next significant transfer spree will be funded by the sale of Rodwell. I expect come January to hear statements along the lines of, "Nobody will sell their best players in Janaury..."
Stephen Graham
233   Posted 01/09/2009 at 22:51:54

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Well, David Moyes will be disappointed. He said so. Just how disappointed? Let’s wait and see what spins out of the OS. From the OS:

’The Everton manager secured his second major summer acquisition on Tuesday, tieing up a five-year deal for Russian international midfielder Diniyar Bilyaletdinov. David Moyes hopes to make at least four signings ahead of Monday’s transfer deadline.

And, speaking at a press conference ahead of Thursday’s Europa League play off second leg against Sigma Olomouc, Moyes said he is confident Everton are making headway in their pursuit of additional new faces.

"I would be disappointed if we didn’t get at least four, maybe more," he said.

Well, he got two 1 that’s at least two players less than "four, maybe more." Maybe he was stiffed, and disappointed, by the board.

Steve Pugh
234   Posted 02/09/2009 at 09:06:40

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This is just a theory but it looks as though Atletico sold Johnny cos they needed the money. If we had bought him a couple of months ago would they have held out for more in the knowledge that they could drop the price nearer to the end of the window.

As has been mentioned elsewhere Glenn Johnson cost £17m and he isn’t much better than Johnny. Maybe (and it is a big maybe) we have saved a few million by leaving the business until the end of the window.

Okay, time for the pessimists to start shooting

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