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James McFadden

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Scored again today and he got me thinking about his time at Everton and Scotland. Seems to be a major contrast. He was very infuriating at Everton, as he seemed to be useless bar the odd wonder-goal here and there. But for Scotland, he was like their Diego Maradona. The man they could count on to get them out of trouble or win games for them.

If he had shown half of what he can do for them for us, he'd have been a fantastic player. I can see why Moyes bought him, when I look at his performances for Scotland, just can't understand why he couldn't transfer his international game to the Prem. Strange as players usually find it harder at international level.
Trevor Thompson, Croydon     Posted 05/09/2009 at 17:04:22

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Michael Kenrick
I was looking at all the NewsNow Scotland stories that popped up on the Everton page and though: "We don't even have any Scottish players anymore do we? Hmmm... first time under Moyes?"

Well no, turns out I was wrong...

Oh btw, Trevor and others who are logged in as Members, when you submit an article or mailbag item, I think it still asks for all your details... but I'll see if Lyndon wants to pre-load this stuff into the submission page.

Brendan McLaughlin
1   Posted 05/09/2009 at 23:55:30

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Over-rated player. Hope he proves me wrong BUT!
Tony Doran
2   Posted 06/09/2009 at 00:03:14

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I liked him, not sure if he wasn’t quite consistant enough or he never got the chance. Either way he didn’t want to be getting splinters on his arse.
One thing for sure is playing international football is now easier than playing against EPL defences.
Derek Thomas
3   Posted 06/09/2009 at 06:13:21

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At his time with us he always seemed to be a player in search of a decent run in a proper position...

But I think his position, ie just being James McFadden, lots of skill, not quite a, well you pick, winger, CF, MF, I think the nearest you could come to it would be some sort of fancy Dan inside forward that you carried in spite of his faults, no longer exists in the modern EPL game.

Scotland, however can’t be so picky.
John Roberts
4   Posted 06/09/2009 at 06:45:17

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You can bet your life he’ll score when we play the Brummies...
Matt Traynor
5   Posted 06/09/2009 at 07:11:46

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I actually thought "The Scottish Rooney’s" (who the feck came up with that line?) biggest problem was Moyes thought he was a left winger (or was that wide midfielder?) and James thought he was a striker.

He was in and out of the team, in a variety of positions, and he was just trying too damn hard to impress. Rather than keep it simple, he tried to show he was some world-beater. His finishing was often wayward, and yet he was perennially "Goal of The Season" candidate. Shame, but we got decent money for him.
John Talbot
6   Posted 06/09/2009 at 08:53:39

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It shows how poor Scotland are that he is their best player.
Neal Sutherland
7   Posted 06/09/2009 at 09:22:42

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He’s a 50/50 player at best. And the last time he grabbed the headlines for Scotland was a couple of years ago in the Euro campaign.

When has he even played like that for Birmingham? He may have been injured a bit last year but hardly set the Championship alight.

My window cleaner agrees, and he’s a Brum!
Jay Woods
8   Posted 06/09/2009 at 10:47:00

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Considering David Healy for a long time was a world beater at international level, what does that tell you? That’s right, it’s a step (or two) down from EPL standards.
Alex Quigley
9   Posted 06/09/2009 at 10:58:14

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James McFadden gets far too many mailbag discussions even now! I watched the game yesterday and he was very very average, no more and no less, despite the hype of the very biased Scottish pundit. For Scotland and Everton he had the odd flash of flair which flattered to deceive.

Yesterday he played against below average Euro opposition (like the teams who get beaten 4-0 by Everton!) and for his goal they gave him the freedom of Scotland — otherwise in the game he did very little of great impact.

The fact that Scotland still dragged Weir into the squad as he nears 40 says all you need to know about the quality of Scottish football.

Interestingly, considering some tenuous links with Scott Brown in the transfer window, I gave him a close look. He was basically a poor man's Thomas Gravesen — running around the pitch fouling people and not passing it very well. He may have bagged a rare goal, but for ’flattering to deceive with a rare goal’ — see McFadden above!

I am very glad we didn’t get him. If you compare the likes of him with Banega, who can tackle, but also has skill, you can see what Moyes aspires to... sadly Kenwright is a con-man with no money, so we are going to be saddled with not getting the club moto fulfilled for a long time yet! The one Scottish player who did look decent was Alan Hutton, but then we bought Heitinga for that position — who, having come through the Ajax system, we would hope he turns out like a proper football player, and not a second rate Scot!

Tony Williams
10   Posted 06/09/2009 at 11:13:06

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I was half expecting a "did we let him go too early?" post... to which I reply definitely not.

He scores his wonder goal, a handful a season, and does nothing else. He was also getting splinters in his arse last season with the Brum.

He is an average player but takes chances with his shots and scores good goals, the rest of his play wasn’t up to scratch and, as other posters have mentioned, it goes to show that International defenders are not as disciplined and as tight as club defenders.
Vincent Lysaght
11   Posted 06/09/2009 at 11:36:23

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I watched the whole game - the goal he scored (which he took very well) was the only thing he did. Another chance, set up on a plate, 7 yards out, was skewed 20 yards wide. Same old, Blind Alley McFadden.
Nick Entwistle
12   Posted 06/09/2009 at 11:37:57

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He was never given a chance down the middle, but with Marcus Bent and the pie man in the lone striker role, he had nowhere other than the wings to play.

Totally worth his time at Everton just for the Charlton goal. Genius.
Tony Williams
13   Posted 06/09/2009 at 12:07:30

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Exactly Nick, I will never badmouth him, I just think he is an ordinary player.

His goals against Charlton and the Mentalists were crucial goals and I will always praise him for them but I am glad he is no longer on our books.

A special mention goes to his screamer against Fulham also.
Andrew Conroy
14   Posted 06/09/2009 at 16:49:29

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Typical of McFadden, his goal yesterday masked the fact that he’d otherwise had a stinker, and went about the game with his usual his self-indulgence and stunning lack of awareness of the game around him.

He’s extremely undeserving of all the Roy of the Rovers praise he gets, but I guess with the problems the Scottish game seems to be having this is understandable.

Am I the only one to think that he got extremely lucky with the nutmeg that got him past the last defender? The commentator was going crazy, saying that JMc was the only player on the pitch capable of that sort of ’genius’. He took his goal well, but I’m sure that nobody was more surprised than JMc when the ball went through the defender’s legs.
Michael Kidd
15   Posted 06/09/2009 at 18:44:17

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I agree with John Talbot. Not so long ago, the Scotland team would have all been Premier League standard players (or their equivalent). Now they are almost all Scottish Premier, Championship or in those teams that have just been promoted, like Burnley and Birmingham. Like N Ireland and Wales used to be. Still got a fairly good chance to make 2010 though. Better than Portugal!
Tony Williams
16   Posted 06/09/2009 at 19:24:08

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You are deffinitely not the only one Andrew, I mentioned it on another forum, he mis-controlled it and fluked the 'meg. Finished it well enough though.
Suzy Whitehead
17   Posted 06/09/2009 at 21:23:49

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He simply is not good enough for the Premier League. Gave the ball away for too often for us. Worth a bet for the first goal against us though.
Neil Vaughan
18   Posted 06/09/2009 at 22:23:59

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He wasn’t frustrating playing for Everton... he was just plain SHITE!!
Iain Love
19   Posted 07/09/2009 at 02:14:57

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Watched his first game at Goodison after all the "Scottish Rooney" hype. Me and my Red Shite brother-in-law (he gets free tickets through work) thought he was a one trick pony with no pace. Years later, we’ve seen nothing to change our minds.
David Ellis
20   Posted 07/09/2009 at 11:21:56

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McFadden did get a run in the side as a forward in a 4-4-2 formation for a while. I forget exactly when. It was right at the start of the season and we have a bit of an injury crisis amongst the strikers (yes, I know that hardly narrows down the dates much!).

I have a feeling it was the seaon we finished 4th after the Rad and Rooney had both left and we were saving up the money to get Bent on a free transfer. I think he and Chadwick held the line for a while.

It was so disastrous that they were both replaced by Marcus Bent and the Moyes 4-5-1 was born.

I will always remember that goal against Charlton — but generally he failed to deliver and we got (for the time) excellent money for him — which we promplty blew on Fellaini.

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