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I note that our signing of Lucas Neill has only received muted comment from correspondents to this site. I feel that Lucas is a pretty handy acquisition.
He is a seasoned international (before there's too much sneering about the Socceroos, remember they took Italy to the wire last World Cup and are currently FIFA ranked 14th) and Premier Leauge player, can play anywhere in the back 4, and has the usual Aussie competitive drive.
Personally, I think having him and Tim Cahill in the same side geeing each other up and on won't hurt us. Isn't he a better right back prospect than Tony Hibbert? And, from what I've seen of the latter so far, Lucas is better than Johnny Heitinga.
Steve Carter, Posted 22/09/2009 at 06:35:43
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What happens if Rodwell gets injured? Heitinga is the only available backup for that role. I don’t expect him to play many games in that role but he may need to play a few.
That’s what he’s paid for.
Wrapping him up in cotton wool and leaving him out of the squad on a ’he might get tired’ basis will lead to our football suffering and his progress.
The lad clearly has what it takes — play him.
As for Neill, I couldn’t tell you. When I see other teams play 90% off all players are just names to me. Can’t say I take that much of an interest in the wider game.
It’s obvious he has the footballing brain of someone ten years older, and also has the unflappable personality not to let things faze him.
In the last couple of games I’ve seen him take responsibility when other "seasoned" pro’s have ducked theirs.
The lad's an absolute diamond, pricelss to us at the moment, and for a long time to come if we get our wishes!
Someone with his skill wants to play, and I bet if he was allowed he’d play with his mates midweek in the park.....
Do recovery times not increase with age?
Give him a chance.
Defensive midfielder may also end up being Fellaini if Rodders is injured. That’s where he played for Liege. Heitinga is more likely to be cover at Centre Back, but waht does it matter if he plays in midfield anyway if the team overall benefits?
Every West Ham fan I know immediately pointed out Lucas’s habit of giving away daft penalties. We have been warned. :)
Hibbert may just prove a few people wrong and up his game with this influx of right backs! Nothing like a bit of competition for places, something we now have all over the pitch bar left back.
We need someone ready to step into the defensive midfield role. Its looking like Heitinga is the next in line for that role so maybe a trail run in a League Cup game is a good idea.
But I guess we’ll all just have to wait and see...
As for Neill...who’s been somewhat overlooked...Great cover - hopefully we avoid injuries and he doesn’t get a game though!
Because I can’t see him getting in any other way..
I’m sure if this was the case, we would have ALL heard about it.
So I’d say Neill has been bought as a direct replacement for Hibbert (who’ll be decent cover).
Lucas Neill is excellent cover and a strong character, but I don’t see him as a first choice (when fit). That said, it’s a squad game and he’ll play some, not others. But he’s a right back & that’s all. On his day Hibbert is better. On a bad day for Hibbo I’d take Neill. Hibbert is nowhere near as bad as some (Hi Tony!) suggest.
As for deep midfielder, we have options. Fellaini made his reputation as a deep lying, box-to-box midfielder. Fellaini will end up a star for us. I’ve also been saying for years that Joseph Yobo can play that role. He has strength, pace, can tackle and can make good runs out of defence. IMHO Moyes is missing a trick here, especially when Jags returns.
So in summary, Moyes has got options all over the pitch. Don’t get depressed because he might play Heitinga and Rodwell. I can see Rodwell playing much further forward than some here seem to. Heitinga has a reputation for scoring a few goals, is good in the air and has a stonking shot on him.
I think we’re again dancing on a pin-head about who, when, why, who with and all that. We can only play 11 and I feel we have a truly strong squad that, by end of this year, will be EASILY our best for 25 years. So given that we have finished 5, 5, 6 & 4 in recent years, I see many reasons to be cheerful.
I personally always hated Lucas Niell, but that was based mostly on the fact that he played for a rival PL team, is a gobshite and a hatchet merchant. However, he is strong, decent in the air, quick enough to cope with most things and all in all a decent right back. Mark my words though, Neill has the red mist and, depending on how much game time he gets, I have no doubt that he will have some disciplinary issues.
On the Rodwell issue, of course he will be fit and have bundles of energy but it would be naive to think that he won’t pick up the odd knock and booking when he plays in the middle of the park. It’s an occupational hazard for most deep lying midfielders.
Therefore we will need cover and Heitinga is probably the man and IMHO, whether you watched him before the move or not, rubbishing Heitinga’s ability is short sighted. Clearly he has been good enough to hold down a regular slot in the Dutch national side so he should be good enough (as cover at least) for the PL and cup comps. He is also unavailable for the Europa League so if we (fingers crossed) go a long way in all the competitions we are in then Moyes may want to rotate him with Rodwell to ensure the latter is fit for games where Heitinga is inelligible.
There is always Fellaini as well and I find Alan’s suggestion of Yobo an interesting one also. Guess we’ll see what happens there.
The main thing is we have a lot more of the competition for places that many have been crying out for. Hopefully this will help to raise people’s games and raise the performance level of the team as a whole.
COYB!
I do expect Heitinga to partner Rodwell in the games against the top sides, as that's the Moyes way to go against teams better than us. As for Neill/Hibbert, it's a toss of coin... I’d start Heitinga there before either of them. The team that started against Blackburn with Bily in for Osman will do for me.
I’d like to see Rodders and Felli in centre mid, with Bilyaletdinov and Pienaar and Arteta in front of them: Cahill as an impact sub and Saha or the Yak up front. I see Neill as a cover purchase - until Jags recovers enough to come back in.
On Neill, I don't think we can complain on a one-year deal; good pace, vision and a leader at the back. I think he will play regularly, in particular without Neville around. His leadership I feel will be crucial at the back (not taking anything away from Distin’s leadership qualities mind you). I have always felt that Yobo needs leading in this respect.
The Australian National team is currently ranked 14th in the world and qualified for the World Cup before England. We have recently dominated a full strength Dutch and Northern Ireland team, and did well in the last World Cup beating Japan, getting out of the group ahead of Croatia, being competitive against Brazil and pushing Italy all the way. We are no longer a joke and the reason I’ve explained this recent history is Lucas Neill has led the way.
He is versatile, always gives 100%, and on his day I wouldn’t have anyone else in front of him. Leading up to the next World Cup, he will be chomping at the bit to show what he can do. I haven’t seen enough of Heitinga to rate him, but Neill is quality at both right-back and in the centre of defence.
Dave Wilson, you probably know nothing about any of the other Australian players and are just showing ignorance which a lot of posters on this show do every day. Tony Hibbert is crap and should not be in the first or even second 11. We have Heitinga, Neill, Gosling, Coleman and Neville (when fit) who are all better than him. Time to offload the crap.
Oh I forgot: he gives 100% and is a local lad.
I think the signing of Neill gives cover across the entire back line in case of injuries or suspension. He is not a starter by any means but added experience to the younger players is always an added benefit. Another vocal leader who can "coach player professionalism" is always beneficial.
ps: Who thinks that £24M for Roger is looking like a steal now? Didn’t Distin play in his shirt at Man City about 4 years ago!!!! Although I wouldn’t mind having their product of the Ajax youth academy, Nigel De Jong. Class holding player. Also came from Atletico Madrid... Hold on! Hope we bought the right scouted player from them, a la Krøldrup!!!
I think it's you that’s showing your ignorance here; let me educate you: Austrailia does NOT have top class players.
Yeah sure, you have the edge over New Zealand and Japan, but a generous Fifa ranking of 14th does not fool people who actually understand the game. You want to attack Scouse lads with your considered "he’s shite" comments, but your bottom lip starts quivering just as soon as a few home truths are told about an Aussie player... well guess what? He’s not alone, none of them are good enough. Australia doesn’t produce players that are good enough for top Prem teams, not now, not ever. [Cue embarrassing Harry Kewel post....]
Hibbert, the fella you seem to be reserving your toxic comments for, has qualified for the CL, how many Aussie superstars have managed that? ... ever?
14th in the world may sound impressive to you, but you could put a team together from this City alone that would spank you Soceroos all day long... but then they’d only be local boys giving 100%.
Winning a selling plate at Salisbury does not an Epsom derby runner make.
Last time England played Australia at soccer the Aussies won (ok only a freindly but it was in England and there was no question of playing them off the park). Your post is embarrassing "little Englander" stuff. Being English, I am deeply embarrassed by it, and feel compelled to apologise to all Aussies on here for my compatriot’s remarks.
A few observations: while Michael Tracey defended Australia and bagged Tony Hibbert as shit, he is not exactly the only person on the site who has made such remarks. But getting to my point, your comments only served to confirm Michael Tracey’s assumption that you know jack all about Australian football.
Saying that Australia doesn’t produce quality footballers... what an absolute pile of shit. Sure, we don’t produce as many players as England or other European powerhouses, but that might have something to do with football not being our major sporting code. While it's expanding, rugby league, rugby union and Australian rules football are still ahead.
Despite this we have players all over Europe; they may not be world famous names but they are solid. Just a few that you might know who have played in the EPL: Mark Schwarzer, Tim Cahill, Lucas Neil, Brett Emerton, Harry Kewell, Vinnie Grella, Mark Bosnich. We have players all through the English divisions. Players in Italy at clubs like AC Milan, Parma, Perlermo; players in Holland at clubs like Twente and AZ, the list goes on.
Plus saying Harry Kewell is shit just shows you are a biased blue without a clue. I know he played for Liverpool, but his class was never an issue — it was his injuries, not unlike our own Saha. Cast your mind back to what he did at Leeds, he was a fucking sensation, had the biggest clubs in the world after him. I can still remember him making the English defence look like a wet paper bag when he first played against them. He is now injury free and the best player at Galatasaray.
We have knocked off countries like Holland, Argentina, England, Croatia etc. Sure we don’t get regular competition against European countries, but we can’t help our position in the Asian division of Fifa.
I’m by no means saying the Australian side or nursery is better than that of England or other major football nations but your attack on an entire nation's footballers in the defence of one Tony Hibbert is laughable.
I have nothing against Liverpool as a City, in fact I love it — after all, I’m an Evertonian — but I’d be really curious for you to name a current crop of players from Liverpool who would beat a full strength Australia.
I understand fans having their own opinions of the new boys, but just let's give them a chance to settle in, and hope they help to improve our league position, and move on in all competitions.
Warner
Hibbert
Orr
Carragher
Baines
Spearing
Barton
Nolan
Gerrard
Rooney
Jeffers
Not sure that it would beat the Aussies though...
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Behave yourself!
Remind me, which quality teams do they regularly have to play to get ranking points?
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Doesn’t Tiny Tim's unofficial Western Samoa count!!!!!
Um, well... Tim Cahill — he was in the same team, you nonce, and I know which player was the better.
Mark Viduka
Jason Culina
Brett Emerton
Harry Kewell
Craig Moore
Mark Bosnich
Scott McDonald
Kevin Muscat...
And that's just off the top of my head.
So, Dave, like I said... ignorance is showing big style. Oh, and technically speaking, we never qualified for the CL.
I have nothing against Scouse people — that is something that you interpreted — but Tony Hibbert is not good enough. He gets paid handsomely... and yes, he gives 100%... but he is found wanting again and again.
Your allegiance to your country is commendable — but it’s more than slightly clouding your judgement... Australia are at most an average footballing side.
And you’re simply wrong about Hibbert... If you’ve watched this season's games you’d appreciate that he’s probably been the most consistent player this season.
At least wait until he’s done something wrong before you villify him. It’s highly likely Hibbert would’ve got caps for Australia.
"Behave yourself !" - What a bloody joke you arrogant @@@
I’m defending my country's football history against a tool who chose to bag us in some strange attempt to defend Tony Hibbert in an article about Lucas Neill. While some England supporters prefer club football over internationals and don’t care too much about their team, I support Australia as hard as I do Everton, so I’ll defend it all day long.
To answer your question, Australia no longer plays in the Oceania Federation but have moved into the Asian Federation to play against stronger sides. Despite this, we have still dominated and qualified for the World Cup undefeated.
It's not as strong as Europe, but there are strong teams like Japan and South Korea. We also did very well at the last World Cup and that's for a country whose Number One sport isn’t even football/soccer.
Plus, if I have to spell it out again, and this is recent history, we have played against full-strength sides like Holland, Northern Ireland, etc and beaten them all.
I come here to talk about Everton, not bag out the national teams of other countries, so do me a favour and stick to Everton matters.
"Behave yourself !" - What a bloody joke you arrogant @@@
I’m defending my countries football history against a tool who chose to bag us in some strange attempt to defend Tony Hibbert in an article about Lucas Neil. While some England supporters prefer club football over internationals and don’t care to much about there team I support Australia as hard as I do Everton so I’ll defend it all day long.
To answer your question Australia no longer plays in the Oceania federation but have moved into Asia to play against stronger sides. Despite this we have still dominated and qualified for the World cup undefeated.
Its not as strong as Europe, but there are strong teams like Japan and South Korea. We also did very well at the last World Cup and thats for a country whose number one spot isn’t even football/soccer
Plus if I have to spell it out again, and this is recent history we have played against full strength sides like Holland, Northern Ireland, etc and beaten them all
I come here to talk about Everton not bag out the national teams of other countries so do me a favour and stick to Everton matters.
All I know is that the two games Hibbert hasn’t played in this year, we have looked like a football team and conceeded no goals. We actually passed the ball and weren’t exposed on the right-hand side of defence.
He might've maybe got a cap but not millions as stated above. I can’t agree with your assessment of the Australian team though but that’s an opinion and I respect yours. Everton cannot and will not ever go any further whilst we have people like Tony Hibbert, Osman and Neville playing regularly.
Over-exposure on the right is not Hibbert's fault either — that’s usually down to Osman drifting into the middle and leaving Hibbert exposed. Blaming the absence of Hibbert for our improved form is simply a non-sequitur.
As for Hibbert and the Austrailian team... be serious — he’s a Premier League regular. Most of your defenders play in the Australian league...
Whenever you’re crowing about beating a crap Ireland team, then that is pretty telling.
Northen Ireland? Wow!
Your failure to be objective about Australia’s pedigree is the only arrogance on show here.
(Ranked 1st to 5th) Pot A
(Ranked 6th to 24th) Pot B
(Ranked 25th to 43rd)
Australia
Korea Republic
Saudi Arabia
Japan
Iran
Bahrain
Uzbekistan
Kuwait
Korea DPR
China PR
Jordan
Iraq
Lebanon
Oman
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Syria
Palestine
Thailand
Turkmenistan
Tajikistan
Indonesia
Hong Kong
Yemen
Vietnam
Kyrgyzstan
Maldives
India
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Malaysia
Chinese Taipei
Bangladesh
Macau
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Mongolia
Guam
Nepal
Cambodia
Bhutan
Myanmar
Timor-Leste
As I said, Behave yourself.
"His ability to stink the ground out everywhere and get paid shitloads should see him transfer listed"
"He would struggle to get in the Laos team"
"Time to offload the crap"
Now you can whip yourself into a patriotic frenzy for all I care pal, but understand, it was Michael Tracey who mentioned the "local boy" thing — not me.
And please don't try to rewrite what I said; not once did I compare Australia to England, I said in this City ALONE we produce better players than Australia, always have done — that my friend is a fact.
That you and Tracey want to come on calling people tools and nonce’s really emphasises your footy knowledge, I’m impressed.
Next time you guys want to push forward a player "because he plays for Australia" that's ok, even understandable, but try to do it without dismissing "local boys" as crap. Be very aware that we are every bit as pround of our City and the players we produce as you are of your Country.
Oh and BTW boys, that list of "great Aussie players" ... were you presenting the case for the defence or the prosecution?
Eh.....are you sure you’re feeling ok today Ciaran, unless you mean consistently shit, at which point then i would generally be of the same opinion as yourself!
Your manic defence of Tony Hibbert against all-comers is getting really, really tiresome. Opinions on the lad are widely spaced, as the posts above from Rob and Cairan show, but you're in danger of becoming like a broken record.
The article was submitted by a guy in Australia and he makes a direct comparison to Hibbert.
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No Rob,
I stand by it. Hibbert hasn’t actually done much wrong this season at all... his defensive duties have been strong as usual, his crossing has been consistently good and he’s been trying to link up with the player in front of him (although this has been a bit of a problem because he’s generally not there...).
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have Danny Alves in there... but to blame our improved form on Hibbert’s absence — or to suggest he’s been terrible this season — is something I simply can’t agree with.
Dave Wilson - I thought you may have resiled from your penchant for insults and confrontation. Stop being ridiculous man. Australia is a fantastic sporting nation. With their small population, to say they punch above their weight is an understatement.
Australia has only been producing top class football players for only a short time. But they are getting there, as they always do. They have a sporting professionalism and team ethic that, on many occasions, we can only dream of. And as was pointed out, the last time England played Australia at football we lost, easily.
Grow up.
I’m far from a frenzy I just won’t sit by when someone bags out my National team for the sake of defending one player. I haven’t bagged Tony Hibbert at all, I just commented that Neil is a better player and I’ll stand by that. Sure I prefer other people to play right back but I like Hibbert as at least he will always put in.
Ciarán McGlone
Thanks for the smug list, Google is a great help isn’t it. Now that you have provided it, would you care to explain what else Australia can do, should we win the next World Cup or argue to FIFA that we should be able to play in the next Euro comp?
Fact is we have even had to move to a new federation in search of strong competition and still done well there. We went very well at the last World Cup and have beaten some big nations recently in friendlies.
Like I said in my last post, this thread should have been about Everton and all I was doing was defending one of my teams. Continuing to bag out Australia just shows what your about.
And I’m not ’bagging’ Australia... simply countering your exageration of their place in world football...
And it doesn’t ’show what I’m about at all’... Whatever that means.
You’ve made the same point before about other local players I have defended, is being proud of our boys a crime?
I believe if TH was an Aussie he would be one of their most capped players, is that really ridiculous?
My post was a response to a number of particularly spiteful posts made about him on this and other recent threads by Michael Tracey
Alan Kirwin
insults? Sorry, but it's you slipping into your old ways, you're reading things that were not written again.
Going back to the article, I think Neill is an excellent signing and only regret is why, if we haven’t, taken an option so we can have him for more than 1 year if we choose.
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Can you please phone Stephen Hunt and tell him this. Thanks.
About the Australian "debate". I have lived here since 1973 and watched the Aussies (with a few notable exceptions) knock hell out of English teams in every sport from ping pong & tiddly winks to rugby and cricket. I believe this is because they never know when they are beaten. This is called a "winning mentatility"
Before he joined us I felt much the same way about Lucas Neill as I used to about Tommy Smith. (We had Johnny Morrisey to deal with him)
Now he is with us I am glad because:-
Every team needs a hard man -—(big tick there)
He’s a pretty good footballer.
He’s a leader.
Most of all he has a winners mentality — he wants to win. So do we.
IMHO :) he will earn his place as first choice right back.
Can't see how Hibbert has been the most consistent player this season. Pienaar and Rodwell would be my two. I would have Neill before Hibbert as Hibbert is a liability. Rash tackles, poor crossing, etc etc. Hate having a pop at him as he's one of us but, with the players we have in his position, the time has come for him to be used in emergency only.
I also thought Hibbert could have done no more in those matches..
I have lived sufficiently long to be grateful to our Aussie cousins for the help we got in 1914-18 and 1939-45. No, I wasn’t alive for the first one. LOL
There are few really top teams and to be honest I wouldn’t claim that England are at this moment in time.
As for Australia, bearing in mind that the majority of Aussies prefer cricket, rugby union and rugby league, I wouldn’t expect another Brazil but one thing one will always get from an Aussie is 100% committment and our little Aussie, Tim Cahill, is living proof of that.
As for Lucas, I’ll judge after he’s had a few games for us.
I hope to hell that wasn’t a serious post...
WW1 and WW2?
I have crossed swords so to speak, with a number of Aussies on here before. One thing is clear, they can come on here and knock English players. But woah betide you slag an Aussie player off!
I posted on here a long time back stating that if you are a naturalised Aussie then your psyche doesn’t allow for criticism. But if you are an ex pat, then have a word with yourself.
I don’t rate Cahill, I never have really; one-dimensional in my opinion. But the Aussies keep on harping about how well he plays for them.
Well here’s the rub. I don’t give a shite how he plays for the Ausssies. It’s how he plays in a blue shirt that interests me.
Neill on the other hand is a mercenary. He turned the reds down because WHU offered him more money. No other reason.
If you can’t take the truth or other peoples opinions on your precious average international team... Well tough luck. Put your teddys back in your prams.
It’s all up for question and debate, no holds barred.
Don’t you know he fought for us in the Boer war?
In the article the guy states Lucas Neil is and international and believes this to be proves that he is better than Hibbert.
My point about If Hibbert was Australian is a perfectly valid one, as too was my argument against a guy who says "its just because he local" . .Isnt his the same argument The Aussies are putting up ?
You will not find any personal insults from me - despite Kirwins latest attempt to engraciate himself with whoever I’m in disagreement with - My argument is Identical to theirs - without the insults
As for my point about Liverpool producing a higher standard of footballer than Australia, whats wrong with that ? its true.
In fact its true about 99% of all footballing nations on earth.
Tim Loyd
Some of my family have been born and live in Sydney, they are very precious to me.
Aussies have only ever been shown Kindness, I love the place . . . but I’ll argue about sport all day with you guys and I wouldnt even have to mention the Ashes
Thats my last post about a local players, I find it sad that for years its been ok to attack them, but a couple of days defending them is deemed to sound like a broken record
There is no point arguing with Dave Hibbert I mean Wilson.
As far as he’s concerned the 90 odd per cent of Evertonians who can clearly see that Tony Hibbert is one of our weak links are wrong. It’s all about perception, Daves perception. As he said in one of his earlier bizarre posts, fans look for scapegoats and thats exactly what Tony is.
Yeah right Dave nothing to do with his lack of footballing ability. Of course we’ve needed scapegoats finishing 5th, 5th, 6th etc haven’t we?
People can see when they believe a player to be sh*te and you ranting on about it trying to defend him isn’t exactly going to change their opinions. Unless......
"Actually do you know what, I had my eyes opened the other day. This fella called Dave Wilson was relentlessly posting on Toffeeweb about Tony Hibbert not being sh*te. After 327 of his posts, I think he’s got a point. I’ve just been following the crowd like a sheep. He’s actually brilliant. Technically he’s got everything. Why haven’t I seen this before? Thanks Dave. Hibbert for England"
Brian Lawler
I wrote an article to blow away all those imaginary penalties and goals people like you want to blame Hibbert for costing us.
I invited the deluded to name them, in fact I invited them on several occasions to name them. Guees what nobody could, certainly not you.
You have never heard or read anything from me claiming Hibbert was a good player,but people were claiming he had made mistakes that he hadnt, if thats not looking for a scapegoat, what is ?
I wanted to give you finger pointers the chance to name all - or any - of these mistakes, to put up or shut up . . . you dont seem able to do either
Your pointless crusade for Tony Hibbert is purely based on wanting people to give dates, times, opponents of goals and red cards he was at fault for. If they can’t give you details then he can’t be sh*te.
Guess what, I don’t need to nor can I actually be arsed like many others looking through our archive for the last 8 years to do this. I can’t rememeber who scored last week never mind recall off the top my head a list of Tony Hibbert mistakes.
Besides I don’t need to do that because in MY OPINION based upon what I see week in week out home and away with my very own two eyes and using my own footballing brain, Tony Hibbert isn’t good enough.
Your stance is extremely childish and ignorant of peoples individual opinions.
So you need to accept peoples opinions about who they consider not to be good enough.
Cue childish response - "Ha ha see you can’t give me a list of dates, times, etc therefore he’s not sh*te"
*Yawn*
Nobody was asking for dates and times, people were claiming to see things that didnt happen, Hibbert was blaimed for giving penalties away when he wasnt even playing
Get back to me when you’ve worked out the difference between that and opinion
I’ll stick to the point.
Hibbert is sh*te. You’re in a small minority that thinks otherwise.
End of.
Anyway Steve Carter... As well as being a player, Neill is a warrior and a leader who will give 100% to the cause. That can only be good IMHO!
’The Hibbert Debate.’ I can see Tony Marsh in all of this, sitting on a wet floor, in a pair of Y-Fronts, laughing in a bowl of cornflakes!
My comments were not aimed at you. I was trying to lighten the mood and maybe provoke a little charismatic humour from others (including Tony), but as usual Dave you lash out without thinking. Don’t you get tired of being nervous.
My views on Hibbert & Australian footballers differ from yours and if I wanted to take a cheap shot and joined the debate I could have, but I’m not the knife in the back type.
"begging letter" - whatever (sigh). Lescott, like my thread has gone... I suggest you move on as well. Learn how to play with others and ’Calm Down.’
Didn't realise you were’nt trying another cheap shot like your "NFL" post. Trouble is, my ol son, most of us have developed a more sophisticated sense of Humour, that's why my post was funnier than yours
But if it's slapstick that floats your boat why not try last nights match thread, I just read it and was pissing myself, it's set me up for the day.
The one dimesional Hibbert played out of position and him and Ossie starred in Moyesie’s biggest ever away win.
Then there was Kirwin, Lol, poor chap made a fool of himself — again — and was laughed off the thread.
Ha Ha Ha, Laugh ? it couldn't have been funnier if they splattered a custard pie in his face and threw a bucket of water over him
You did notice that a lot of the good players at Everton were rested and Hibbert came in as the guy who will be playing RB for the big game on Saturday was playing as a CB. Anyway back to the thread which is meant to be about Lucas Neill he came on and was incidently played out of position and did well.
Sorry don’t need spellcheck! So where was Tony inhibit playing then?
Inhibit that was irony, suffisticated is just plain stupid like your Million Caps comment. If Tony Hibbert is your idea of local pride then you obviously don’t think much of where you live.
"So where was TH playing last night ?"
Just about sums you up, you don't have a fucken clue what you're talking about, but you can still feel in a position to criticize
End of Discussion.
Hibbert was at left back.
I’d put all that local talent down to half of Liverpool being effectively Irish...
; )
Yeah I don’t doubt that the good one’s are from the Irish side as the others seem to lack a sense of humour. Unless trying to be funny is by spelling words wrong. Gee Dave you would have to be the easiest person in the world to wind up, fuck get a grip. I would have played TH at left back, but that would've been left back at Finch Farm. Good that the reserves get a run in the Carling Cup though.
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1 Posted 22/09/2009 at 13:50:13
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The things is with Moyes's signings — is that it’s simply not a matter of assessing the player... it’s also a matter of assessing the possible hair-brained schemes that Moyes may come up with to move people around the pitch.
This one frees up Heitinga for midfield...