The Mail Bag

Distin or Lescott?

Comments (30)

Personally I'm happy that we replaced Lescott with Distin, whatever the reasons. I liked Lescott when he played for us, but I was always worried that he would have odd "Yobo moment" now and again. I like Yobo too, but you know what I mean.

Distin looks really solid, like a real centre-back. I realise because of his age he won't be with us as long as Lescott may have been but I really like lad. Silver linings and that...

Come on you Blues !!!
Bob Boote, Los Angeles, CA, USA     Posted 27/09/2009 at 02:52:59

back Return to the Mail Bag

Comments

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Paul Gladwell
1   Posted 27/09/2009 at 16:41:11

Report abuse

It may be sour grapes but I would have Distin. Lescott's best days for us were at left back anyway, it took him months to get going last season and looking at his first few games at City he was to blame against Utd, dived in too early for one of Arsenal's goals and was to blame in the only England appearance he has made, before we even mention that sorry episode on the opening day.

Big nose Thompson said it all: his goals hide the fact he is just a good defender, nothing special.

Gareth Humphreys
2   Posted 27/09/2009 at 16:49:10

Report abuse

Lescott all day long. Distin looks good though to be fair to him.
The question is, is Lescott worth upwards of £17m more than Distin. Probably not.
Nick Entwistle
3   Posted 27/09/2009 at 17:21:35

Report abuse

It's not so much Lescott for me, rather the mammoth partnership he forged with Jagielka. Moyes was knowingly underestimating the pair, when saying they were second only to Ferdinand and Vidic last season.

Distin in by far another of Moyes’s transfer master strokes.

And the question should be, "Distin, Heitinga and Bily... or Lescott?"
Aidy Dews
4   Posted 27/09/2009 at 17:18:37

Report abuse

For me they're like for like, very similar players although Lescott had age on his side and scored a few goals... but how far in to his 30s will Lescott play? He had that very serious knee injury before joining us and as he goes on with age I'm sure that knee is going to give him some jip. I think we got rid at the right time as we needed the money to improve our squad to give us a chance of competing for the top 5.
Peter Askins
5   Posted 27/09/2009 at 17:43:42

Report abuse

Distin has fitted seemlessly into our defence, and takes his share of the credit for our successive clean sheets. He also doesn’t seem to have "Yobo-esque" (or even "Lescott-esque") mistakes to his game — he stays on his feet, is dominant in the air, and very subtle in his handling of quicker forwards.

Assuming that Jagielka returns to the same level, I expect the Jags-Distin partnership to be as equally "mammoth" as the Jags-Lescott one.

Finally, I expect Yobo + Distin + Jags to score more Premier League goals than Lescott + Jags + Yobo did last season.

Therefore, the only conclusion I can draw is that Distin is at least the equal of Lescott, in all except footballing age.

Throw in the financial aspect of the transfer dealings, and practically all informed pundits have us well up on the deal.
Iain Love
6   Posted 27/09/2009 at 20:29:19

Report abuse

The team as a whole is better now than when Lescott was here, that much is obvious, the bonus to it all is Distins and the team's form. Yobo has also looked better alongside Distin and Baines is back to his best.

I fully expect when all our players are back / fit our team will be
Howard
Neill Jags Distin Baines
Pienaar Rodwell Arteta Bily
Felliani
Saha

So we will have replaced Lescott albeit with an older model, moved Hibbo and Ossie to the bench, strengthened our 1st team and bench, and increased options to change things around during a game, ie Bily and Pienaar swopping wings etc.

So, although I liked Lescott (Jags bette), it’s a resounding Distin for me. Thank fuck it wasn’t Senderos!!!

Matthew Lovekin
7   Posted 27/09/2009 at 21:08:48

Report abuse

Lescott may be English, younger and scores more goals, but Distin is a better defender and that is the most important thing for a defender.

Distin is a ’real’ traditional centre-back who is also a leader and organiser. Jagielka made Lescott look better because Jags is so good and organises. For all the good Yobo and Lescott are at defending, they are prone to the odd moment and not real leaders.

A partnership with Jagielka and Distin looks awesome.
Lee Kidd
8   Posted 27/09/2009 at 21:39:46

Report abuse

Let’s be honest with ourselves - at the start of the summer, if a poll had been done asking whether we’d have Lescott or Distin, then Lescott would have won hands down.

I’ve seen nothing to change that. Jags is our best defender, and was even when Joleon was here, but Lescott is a very decent player.

Saying that, a City fan in work said something to me the other day. "How did you get away with that?". "What?" I asked. "The mugging you’ve given us over Lescott." ^^

They’re not massively impressed at City thus far.
Alasdair Mackay
9   Posted 27/09/2009 at 21:45:13

Report abuse

The thing that always impressed me about Lescott was his reading of the game. I think he trumps Distin on this and he also scores more goals. Distin is probably a better defender, but he is older.

Given a straight choice I would have Lescott, but Distin plus £18m to buy Bily and Heitinga and I think we did well.

The goals will be the big miss, but if Saha stays fit all season and Pienaar chips in with a few more, it hopefully won’t be noticed so much. Cahill and Fellaini’s goal-return will drop from last year, but Yak is back and Baines, Arteta and Bily give us genuine options from set-pieces. We will finish between 4th and 6th.
Robert Daniels
10   Posted 27/09/2009 at 22:01:44

Report abuse

Lescott's a great left back, but in the middle without Jags he looks worth the £5 mill we paid. He won't make the plane for South Africa unless there's a massive outbreak of swine flu amongst English center-halves.

Distin for me every time... proper defender, he will be fantastic when Jags is back.

£24 million, how does the song go? "We're in the money, we're in the money."

Keith Glazzard
11   Posted 27/09/2009 at 22:10:36

Report abuse

Or Rooney?

When the player (and his advisors) went for twice the money, there was little chance of any other outcome. Winning things and other lies might have been put in the press releases, but the money came first.

So now we have Sylvain Distin instead. Top class CB. Settled in like he was born here, and runs the show on his flank. Can score. And a team man through and through. He looks good to me. Four or five good seasons in him.

Lescott? Good player. How much did they pay for him? Ridiculous.
Connor Rohrer
12   Posted 27/09/2009 at 23:42:01

Report abuse

It’s basically like for like, they are very similar players in terms of style, quality and physique.

The only difference is age, Lescott has more years left in him and probably edges Distin at left back. Although I haven’t seen that much of Distin as a left back.
Aidan Wade
13   Posted 28/09/2009 at 04:01:40

Report abuse

@ Iain,

You think Moyes will prefer Neill to the reputedly highest paid player at the club for right back? Or you think he should?

I imagine the main rotators, should we ever have a fully fit team, will be Saha/Yak and Cahill/Fellaini.
Paul Gladwell
14   Posted 28/09/2009 at 07:48:14

Report abuse

The most important thing for me regarding defending is leadership and organisation skills and Distin has all these in abundance whilst Lescott does not. Nigel Martyn commented on how silent the defence was when he played for us as Yobo is not one to go barking orders all day too and having two silent centre-halves is not a good thing.

Add the injury to our captain, people don't realise his importance in this area, then getting Distin in for Lescott was a must and, as Matthew pointed out, Jags made him look better than he actually is, his record so far with other players alongside him has shown that.

Iain Love
15   Posted 28/09/2009 at 08:51:57

Report abuse

Aidan
It’s hard to judge someone from one performance, especially in a new country and league, but right back is his preferred position. He is also a full international at one of the top teams in the world so I would have expected more from him on Saturday, his lack of pace and turning speed says when he goes up against nippy wingers, we are fucked.

Opposition managers will look at our team and say Everton are weak down the right hand side: Osman doesn’t track back, Heitinga has no pace and Yobo has the odd blooper.

We all say Distin has slotted in seamlessly due to playing in the Prem, as does Neill. Moyes said when Neville got injured he wanted cover and that's why he went for him another right back — I think maybe Heitinga is another Krøldrup. Finally Neill, when i’ve seen him play, gives us more steel for battles like Saturday's second half.

Jason Lam
16   Posted 28/09/2009 at 09:05:14

Report abuse

Well if we don’t factor in the huge windfall then Lescott by far. Young, can play leftback and centerback, 10 goals a season, good positioning in blocking shots (poor positioning otherwise) and Jags shepherd him perfectly. I feel Distin is slower and therefore Yobo or Jags would be chasing further up the field leaving Distin as sweeper in the partnership, which is not good.

Yobo and Jags are better as the last man in defense.
Brian Waring
17   Posted 28/09/2009 at 10:03:50

Report abuse

Lescott by a country mile. While Distin is decent, Lescott was class.
Eugene Ruane
18   Posted 28/09/2009 at 11:42:11

Report abuse

Lescott.....but I like how Distin has fitted in and I also like how he tends not to (footballing term) ’fuck about’. Also (and I don’t know if Distin is the reason) but Joe seems to be putting 100% in at the moment (’putting his body on the line’ as they on Sky).
Trevor Williams
19   Posted 28/09/2009 at 12:13:07

Report abuse

Who cares? We have moved on.

Funny that a twice Player of the Season is now being courted as crap

Distin will have dodgy moments as will Lescott in the future. They are human.

I am more concerned about the £5M we wasted on the slow dutchman who thinks he is Cruyff.
Patty Beesley
20   Posted 28/09/2009 at 12:10:03

Report abuse

What are we missing about Lescott, in comparison to Distin....... his goals contribution? Well, pardon me, but didn’t Distin score for us the other day... who knows he may get quite a few in the unforeseeable future. As for age, look how long Stubbs and Weir kept going for us. I like the way he has fitted in right away, worked hard and his attitude.
Patty Beesley
21   Posted 28/09/2009 at 12:19:05

Report abuse

P.S..... EPSN showing the Everton v Bate game this Thursday from 5 p.m.
Brian Waring
22   Posted 28/09/2009 at 13:12:54

Report abuse

Trevor, spot on mate. It was not so long ago that some on here were putting Lescott above Terry, Carragher etc. Now, all of a sudden, he has gone from being one of the best defenders in the Prem, to not ever being that good anyway. Methinks sour grapes.
Ste Lewis
23   Posted 28/09/2009 at 13:31:10

Report abuse

Lescott for me but Distin has fitted in seamlessly and seems very consistent.

Going off track a bit but in reference to comments made here on Heitinga, the lad obviously needs time. His ’slowness’ seemed to be more of mind, him thinking he had more time than he did, though granted he doesn't appear lightning! He seems fully committed in challenges, a crisp passer and I think a player who will shoulder increasing responsibilty for us as he settles. We need to get behind him and not write him off after 3 starts.

Phil Bellis
24   Posted 28/09/2009 at 13:46:57

Report abuse

Lescott’s a very good player but was a better player with a strongman alongside him

As for Heitinga... as bad in these first games as that Kendall we got from Preston.

Terry Riley
25   Posted 28/09/2009 at 13:51:28

Report abuse

Well, I’m happy to see Distin doing a good solid job, I was alway’s worried about Lescott after seeing him playing for England. That was when he was found out if you ask me.

Heitinga... I said a few weeks ago that he wasn’t much better than Hibbert and I still hold to that.

Just a footnote here: in The Netherlands the dutch still blame Heitinga for the lackadaisical performance against England a few weeks ago.... ’nough said.

Roy Rennison
26   Posted 28/09/2009 at 14:10:07

Report abuse

Ffs everyone was saying the same thing about Jags and Baines when they first joined. Give Heitinga time to settle and stop all the slagging off of EVERTON players when they have only just signed!!!! Rant over.
Paul Gladwell
27   Posted 28/09/2009 at 15:52:05

Report abuse

Brian mate I don't think people are saying he is no good just that we got a great deal, It’s only my opinion but he was worth no more than £15M and I personally think the claims as to him being better than Terry and co where actually said about Jags not Lescott.

Being honest the way myself and people are talking it does sound like we are just being biased now he has gone, but I honestly think he is good but not that good and his goals (which were mostly when he was left back) have addded the value on his head more than his actual defensive ability, I used to dread him playing for England as you knew what to expect in the papers the next day and he carried that on to his last England performance.

It's just opinions and I respect what you are saying, he was an excellent servant for us, but he will never be world class and for £24M you should expect he can be.

Doug Walters
28   Posted 29/09/2009 at 04:45:45

Report abuse

Lescott was made to look better by Jags; he is looking shit now he is made to be the main defender. I am starting to think that we may have mugged Man Shity!
Anthony Doran
29   Posted 29/09/2009 at 16:50:27

Report abuse

I don't think its hard to pick who I would rather have between the two, Lescott or Distin... it's Lescott.

Distin has filled the void left by Lescott and the money we made was surely a profit that no other club would have paid except City, but it's clear what a negative impact losing Lescott had to our start to the season. We maybe starting to get shit together now but one wonders what shape the season would be right now if we had a loyal Lescott.

Lescott was/is over-rated, but FOR EVERTON he was a quality player who was Distin's equal and even better with the goals he contributed. It's good we have moved on but it's taken a while and we still look very shaky!

Roy Coyne
30   Posted 30/09/2009 at 22:15:34

Report abuse

Although we all liked Lescott, it's only human to think of his weakness in defending instead of his goalscoring antics; time will tell if Distin is a better player or if we miss Lescott’s goals. As he wanted out, I think we got a good deal.

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment to the MailBag, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and MailBag submissions across the site.



© ToffeeWeb