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Distin or Lescott?
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Personally I'm happy that we replaced Lescott with Distin, whatever the reasons. I liked Lescott when he played for us, but I was always worried that he would have odd "Yobo moment" now and again. I like Yobo too, but you know what I mean.
Distin looks really solid, like a real centre-back. I realise because of his age he won't be with us as long as Lescott may have been but I really like lad. Silver linings and that...
Come on you Blues !!!
Bob Boote, Posted 27/09/2009 at 02:52:59
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The question is, is Lescott worth upwards of £17m more than Distin. Probably not.
Distin in by far another of Moyes’s transfer master strokes.
And the question should be, "Distin, Heitinga and Bily... or Lescott?"
Assuming that Jagielka returns to the same level, I expect the Jags-Distin partnership to be as equally "mammoth" as the Jags-Lescott one.
Finally, I expect Yobo + Distin + Jags to score more Premier League goals than Lescott + Jags + Yobo did last season.
Therefore, the only conclusion I can draw is that Distin is at least the equal of Lescott, in all except footballing age.
Throw in the financial aspect of the transfer dealings, and practically all informed pundits have us well up on the deal.
I fully expect when all our players are back / fit our team will be
Howard
Neill Jags Distin Baines
Pienaar Rodwell Arteta Bily
Felliani
Saha
So we will have replaced Lescott albeit with an older model, moved Hibbo and Ossie to the bench, strengthened our 1st team and bench, and increased options to change things around during a game, ie Bily and Pienaar swopping wings etc.
So, although I liked Lescott (Jags bette), it’s a resounding Distin for me. Thank fuck it wasn’t Senderos!!!
Distin is a ’real’ traditional centre-back who is also a leader and organiser. Jagielka made Lescott look better because Jags is so good and organises. For all the good Yobo and Lescott are at defending, they are prone to the odd moment and not real leaders.
A partnership with Jagielka and Distin looks awesome.
I’ve seen nothing to change that. Jags is our best defender, and was even when Joleon was here, but Lescott is a very decent player.
Saying that, a City fan in work said something to me the other day. "How did you get away with that?". "What?" I asked. "The mugging you’ve given us over Lescott." ^^
They’re not massively impressed at City thus far.
Given a straight choice I would have Lescott, but Distin plus £18m to buy Bily and Heitinga and I think we did well.
The goals will be the big miss, but if Saha stays fit all season and Pienaar chips in with a few more, it hopefully won’t be noticed so much. Cahill and Fellaini’s goal-return will drop from last year, but Yak is back and Baines, Arteta and Bily give us genuine options from set-pieces. We will finish between 4th and 6th.
Distin for me every time... proper defender, he will be fantastic when Jags is back.
£24 million, how does the song go? "We're in the money, we're in the money."
When the player (and his advisors) went for twice the money, there was little chance of any other outcome. Winning things and other lies might have been put in the press releases, but the money came first.
So now we have Sylvain Distin instead. Top class CB. Settled in like he was born here, and runs the show on his flank. Can score. And a team man through and through. He looks good to me. Four or five good seasons in him.
Lescott? Good player. How much did they pay for him? Ridiculous.
The only difference is age, Lescott has more years left in him and probably edges Distin at left back. Although I haven’t seen that much of Distin as a left back.
You think Moyes will prefer Neill to the reputedly highest paid player at the club for right back? Or you think he should?
I imagine the main rotators, should we ever have a fully fit team, will be Saha/Yak and Cahill/Fellaini.
Add the injury to our captain, people don't realise his importance in this area, then getting Distin in for Lescott was a must and, as Matthew pointed out, Jags made him look better than he actually is, his record so far with other players alongside him has shown that.
It’s hard to judge someone from one performance, especially in a new country and league, but right back is his preferred position. He is also a full international at one of the top teams in the world so I would have expected more from him on Saturday, his lack of pace and turning speed says when he goes up against nippy wingers, we are fucked.
Opposition managers will look at our team and say Everton are weak down the right hand side: Osman doesn’t track back, Heitinga has no pace and Yobo has the odd blooper.
We all say Distin has slotted in seamlessly due to playing in the Prem, as does Neill. Moyes said when Neville got injured he wanted cover and that's why he went for him another right back — I think maybe Heitinga is another Krøldrup. Finally Neill, when i’ve seen him play, gives us more steel for battles like Saturday's second half.
Yobo and Jags are better as the last man in defense.
Funny that a twice Player of the Season is now being courted as crap
Distin will have dodgy moments as will Lescott in the future. They are human.
I am more concerned about the £5M we wasted on the slow dutchman who thinks he is Cruyff.
Going off track a bit but in reference to comments made here on Heitinga, the lad obviously needs time. His ’slowness’ seemed to be more of mind, him thinking he had more time than he did, though granted he doesn't appear lightning! He seems fully committed in challenges, a crisp passer and I think a player who will shoulder increasing responsibilty for us as he settles. We need to get behind him and not write him off after 3 starts.
As for Heitinga... as bad in these first games as that Kendall we got from Preston.
Heitinga... I said a few weeks ago that he wasn’t much better than Hibbert and I still hold to that.
Just a footnote here: in The Netherlands the dutch still blame Heitinga for the lackadaisical performance against England a few weeks ago.... ’nough said.
Being honest the way myself and people are talking it does sound like we are just being biased now he has gone, but I honestly think he is good but not that good and his goals (which were mostly when he was left back) have addded the value on his head more than his actual defensive ability, I used to dread him playing for England as you knew what to expect in the papers the next day and he carried that on to his last England performance.
It's just opinions and I respect what you are saying, he was an excellent servant for us, but he will never be world class and for £24M you should expect he can be.
Distin has filled the void left by Lescott and the money we made was surely a profit that no other club would have paid except City, but it's clear what a negative impact losing Lescott had to our start to the season. We maybe starting to get shit together now but one wonders what shape the season would be right now if we had a loyal Lescott.
Lescott was/is over-rated, but FOR EVERTON he was a quality player who was Distin's equal and even better with the goals he contributed. It's good we have moved on but it's taken a while and we still look very shaky!
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1 Posted 27/09/2009 at 16:41:11
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Big nose Thompson said it all: his goals hide the fact he is just a good defender, nothing special.