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Bilyaletdinov's ban

I've been told by a few sources that Bilyaletdinov will miss the West Ham, Man Utd and Liverpool games. However, on the official website, the next 3 Premier League games are West Ham (A) 8th November, Manchester Utd (A) 21st November & Hull (A) 25th November. The derby is on 29th November. Have I missed something? Has the Hull game been put back?
Adam Doyle, Liverpool Posted 02/11/2009 at 15:07:45

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Steve Guy
1 Posted 02/11/2009 at 13:58:48

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TW reports that the official site is reporting that Billy will miss the game against Liverpool. I had thought that would be his first EPL game back, as we will have played West Ham, Man Utd but also Hull before then. That's according to the OS's own fixture list! Assume I'm right ?

Phil Roberts
2 Posted 03/11/2009 at 08:01:02

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Rafa has asked him to be banned from the Derby as he could embarras them and give them yet another defeat.

Michael Lynch
3 Posted 03/11/2009 at 09:38:34

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I cant see where the confusion is Adam. He will miss West Ham, Man Utd and Hull. Thats 3 games. He will be back for the Liverpool game.

Nick Entwistle
4 Posted 03/11/2009 at 12:35:16

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So annoying that he is to miss the Utd game. He’s got that something extra special that we need to able us to do anything against Utd.
Can’t beleive how people are knocking him. What is it now? 2 goals and a bucket of assists?

Tony Waring
5 Posted 03/11/2009 at 16:39:59

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Can anyone please explain why Bily gets a 3 match ban while Carragher (with previous form incidentally) only misses 1 match ?

Mark Evans
6 Posted 03/11/2009 at 16:55:38

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Tony, I think a straight red is a 3-game ban but 2 yellows is just the 1 game out.

Tony Williams
7 Posted 03/11/2009 at 17:27:35

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Tony, a two-footed lunge is seen as violent conduct... ergo a straight red and a three-match ban. No use in trying to appeal it, as we don’t play in red.

John Martin
8 Posted 03/11/2009 at 18:24:45

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I’d rather him be ok to play the RS than Utd. The reason is we can beat Liverpool. Teams have shown the way to beat United is to get at them as without Ronaldo and a shakey defence they are more vunerable than ever.

But Moyes never attempts to take it to a top 4 side instead prefering trying to strangle the life out of the game and snatch a one-nil or even a draw. So Bily won't make much difference away at Old Trafford, where it will be every man behind the ball. He will however have an impact at home were Moyes will be forced to attack more.

Trevor Williams
9 Posted 03/11/2009 at 18:58:28

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Old Ma Carra from the RS didn't get two yellows; however, the straight red wasn't for violent conduct.

Stewart Littler
10 Posted 04/11/2009 at 02:09:14

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Who decides whether it’s violent conduct?? Seemed to me like Carragher performed one of Undertaker’s wrestling moves on Zamora, which I would class as violent. Perhaps it’s just another way to have different rules for different teams eh...

Tony Williams
11 Posted 04/11/2009 at 08:54:25

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The problem is Stewart is that Interflora has come out and stated that he didn’t think he was fouled by Carragher??????

As stated before there is a special subsection for cases like this

S 9 (c) (iii) Unless you play in red.

It’s there is the FA rules, trust me!!!

Anthony Millington
12 Posted 04/11/2009 at 15:11:06

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Why did Liverpool appeal against Degan’s red card? Who the hell do they think they are? It was no better than the red card Bily got against Villa. Also if you only get a three game ban if you get a red card for violent conduct why did Cahill get a three game ban last season after the derby? He tripped Alonso up, hardly worthy of violent conduct or a red card is it?

Liverpool think they should have special rules than everyone else. How pathetic can you get over Carragher getting sent off, they seem to be completly ignoring the incident he got away with earlier when he hauled down a Fulham player in the box when he was the last man and the ref let them off with it. Sorry I am in an angry mood after hearing about Arteta’s setback.

Trevor Williams
13 Posted 04/11/2009 at 18:24:23

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Cahill was sent off for violent conduct, which is very wide-ranging.

Liverpool are appealing simply because they can... I dont think Everton will appeal due to the fact our own manager agreed it was a red card.

Michael Brien
14 Posted 05/11/2009 at 12:56:42

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To put things into proper perspective, he gets exactly the same ban that Kevin Nolan got for his foul on Anichebe — which put Victor out of the game for (at the time of writing) 8 months.

I saw Nolan on BBC TV in the recent Ipswich Town v Newcastle match. At one point in the second half, Nolan reacted to a strong tackle from an Ipswich player. It made me sick.

I was at Goodison in October 1968 and saw the infamous Dave Mackay challenge on Jimmy Husband — I was 11 at the time but I have never forgotten that incident and how Mackay got away without even a booking!! I thought that was the worst challenge I had seen on an Everton player - but I think Nolan’s is worse.

What made it worse was the reaction of the Newcastle fans — Anichebe tried to carry on playing but, as he was been taken off, obviously in great pain, the Geordie fans booed him.

If there’s any justice that lot will fall away to a play-off place and then lose in the semi-final. Best fans... what rubbish they spout!! I hear they are thinking of renaming St James Park after Bobby Robson — an attempt to rewrite history... The great man was sacked by them, without any thought of what he had acheived for them, and he spent far more of his career at Ipswich.

Hopefully Nolan will stay where he belongs — out of the Premier League.

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