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Same points as last season!
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They just said on Sky Sports News that Everton have exactly the same points that they had this time last year.
Won - 4
Lost - 4
Drawn - 3
Exactly the same as this time last year... I don’t remember struggling this bad last year?
I guess in theory then we could well finish 5th again?
Dick Anderson, Posted 08/11/2009 at 16:13:19
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Stupid statement. Spurs will be better than us, so probably will Villa, and then there's Man City.
We have no chance which is a shame!
So it is possible.
But I would guess we’ll need contributions from Arteta, Jagielka, Pienaar, Neville and Osman for that to happen. Some goals and form from Yakubu wouldn’t go amiss either.
Actually the International break will help us.
Its Man Utd next and hopefully its a chance for some of our exhausted troops to rest up before that big game.
Will the break also give some of the injured players a chance to return? Pienaar and Osman maybe? Could Neville even have a chance to make it?
Rather go to Old Trafford with a rested squad and Osman, Pienaar and Neville.
Personally I think this season will be one of transitional and consolidation.
Next summer will be crucial with hopefully a fully fit squad with more additions then its possible to challenge again, if it’s more of the same like the past few summers, then it may be Everton will be searching for a new manager.
The sad news is the way Saha was limping he looks crocked and Moyes is yet again down to the bare bones of a squad.
Yak looks slow, Rodwell needs a rest...
Given the injury news, it looks like late January before we have any chance at all of putting out a fully fit squad.
Those who shout loudest about poor tactics giz a clue about your alternatives then?...
Never play percentage Hoofball as it will never work. Passing and moving is the way it's done and never punt aimless balls down the channels for someone to chase as it will come straight back at ye.
Here's one for you, Kevin. Do you think the current Everton squad with the same players out injured would play the way they do now in 6 months time if Arsene Wenger coached them???
No, I thought not.
Shame we didn’t pick up the point at Bolton we deserved and take the game to Stoke and Wolves to see us up in the top 6. We’ve been decimated by injuries but we’re still in the same position as we were this time laste year. Desperately need Pienaar and Mikel back to punish the lower sides and get us back up the table.
One thing they’ve definitely got is determination and a good team ethic - just need that bit of class back to get the confidence flowing again.
I know you never meant it this way but it is ironic to say the least, some of the posters on here have been calling for Moyes’ head and all but calling nearly every one of our players useless and to drop them, however we get a little luck and get three points and it’s seemingly not ok to post optimistic thoughts now?
To complete the picture for the media darlings, Villa +2; Spurs a massive +1 - yeah on comparative fixtures just 1 point up; City +7 so they are doing much better and Fulham are +2
On the other side Pompey are -10 (after -16 last season compared with 2007-8) and 2nd worst - - yes the team which is from the other side - the Dark Side. They are 8 points down on last year’s equivilent fixtures.
But this is about us and we are likely to go under 60 points for the first time in 4 seasons.
But... Unfortunatly Spurs will do well this year, Man City have the fire power and money and Villa will do well again,
Not sure where that leaves us........
Heitinga steadied the ship. I think he has a good future with us. Saha’s goal was that of a multi-million priced striker and when Gosling decides to hit a ball at goal he has done it very well a few times now. Interesting.
A lucky win - we deserve that now and then, and a week off to rest some very tired legs. Baines, Rodwell and hopefully Saha should feel the benefit.
City are drawing against ’lesser’ opposition. 3-3 to Burnley, at home, for example. They may come good for the hundreds of millions being poured in, its too early to tell.
Spurs lost at home to Stoke, drew at Bolton. Arry no doubt has a few tricks up his sleeve. A man who has converted bullshit into gold. Good luck to him.
The PL has always been tough, its very tough this year. Ask Senor Benitez.
We just have to hope Captain Pip’s back to flatten a Manc...
With a player like Neill sitting on the bench with a lot to prove, it would have been a better option. Can’t recall seeing a better own goal in my time. Does he fuckin have a left foot?? It’s daylight robbery that Hibbert gets paid as a professional football player.
Jimmy Saville; " Finish 5th again, Stupid statement" — The only thing stupid about that statement is the response it produced from you. That statement is wholly relevant and opens people's eyes up to the fact that we haven’t dug ourselves in the hole most of us believe us to have. Points wise anyways.
International break coming up, new faces coming in, fingers crossed. This season is long from finished and with regards to competition such as Villa, Tottenham and Man City, seriously apart from City, as if Villa and Tottenham have improved/strengthened their squads to the point that they are beyond us...
Villa: Gave a good account of themselves last week... against a severely weakened team with no bench.
Tottenham: When don't Tottenham have an impressive run of results at some point in a season... how often do they maintain it throughout???
Man City: Their season is crumbling already.
Sure, things are bad at them moment but we just got 3 points, have a break coming up shortly, and fingers crossed, some new faces coming in to a team built on heart and consitency (at the back anyway). As if things won't improve. Get a grip.
We’re poor at the moment, but the signs were there on Sunday that we can be resilient again. A couple of flukey wins and draws would do us the world of good.
I still think we’ll finish ahead of Villa and Spurs.
I actually think this season is harder than the last, the level has raised considerably, the Mackems and Stoke have bought and started well, apart from Pompey and Hull there’s no real duds in there. Anyone that thinks West Ham are a pushover haven’t got a scooby, even without their first choice striker.
We have a better squad we just need to get them fit. The quality of the league this season is poorer or more even depending on your viewpoint so there is no need to be quite as gloomy.
However, we’ve been beaten in the Europa League by a far superior team to the one we could realistically field for the tie, would I expect the same result or performance with our first team out? No, I wouldn’t and I don’t think any of you would either.
We could’ve easily lost to Stoke and Wolves but we got a point; as for Villa they fielded their best 11 and (apart from a 25 minute period in the second half) we more than matched them.
The doom mongerers on here make me laugh, the simple fact is we are having to make do with a team that is not up to full strength by any stretch of the imagination. We need to dig in and grind out results. If that means playing shite football and winning at this moment in time, I will take that all day over playing pretty football and getting hammered every week.
If any of you have noticed the fixture computer has been very kind to us during the run in at the end of the season. If memory serves me correct we don’t play anyone who are currently in the top six in any of our last 11 games.
Assuming we can keep grinding out results and keeping ourselves close to the top six places and assuming the injured players start returning (and returning to form more importantly) then we still have a chance.
What January brings buying-wise we will never know but come on, we are not as bad you you all say we are and I for one want us all to get behind the team obviously with the hope that we can turn the corner and push for that European place at the very least. Oh and another final would do very nicely please.
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