The Mail Bag

Record Signing or Misfit?

Comments (33)

I fear that the price tag on the afro-wearing Belgian is the only reason that he keeps his place in the side; after watching the game on Sunday, nothing I saw would change my mind on this.

The constant fouls, the needless bookings, admittedly this season is better than last, the giving away of possession in vital areas, and the lack of pace... I cannot understand how he keeps making the starting 11.

By playing Fellaini as the attacking midfielder, we are taking away one of our most potent threats in Timmy Cahill. You only need to look at his goalscoring record while he has been away playing for Australia in his prefered position, which is as good as it has always been, so I can only suggest the reason we are not seeing the best of him at Everton is the fact that Fellaini is playing in the pocket where Cahill has been so successful for us over the years.

I feel sure that, if the big Fella was left out and Timmy was playing in his prefered position, we would see the return of the corner flag geting a good hiding, a sight that has been all too infrequent this season.

I was as excited as everyone else when we purchased the big Belgian last year but that optimism has been eroded with each passing game. I was even hoping a full pre-season would give him time to prove his worth, but I am now of the opinion that he's never going to make the step up to be a top class midfielder.

And for those who say he has potential, I believe that when you purchase the club's record signing, you are looking for more than potential — we're not a club that has money to waste.

So, Mr Moyes, do us all a favour and place TIm back in the role that has given us so much pleasure over the years and we'll see that corner flag get the beating it deserves!!!
Gary Lawler, Brisbane, Australia     Posted 10/11/2009 at 00:06:07

back Return to the Mail Bag

Comments

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Chris Perry
1   Posted 10/11/2009 at 20:34:28

Report abuse

Remember the song by Curiosity Killed the Cat? Misfit — it's all about fellaini. The biggest waste of money made by Moyes. This signing beats the previous efforts of Krøldrup and Beattie by a mile.

Clueless, slow, clumsy, but I am sure someone will state how well he played for 5 minutes in the first half against Benfica!

Gerry Western
2   Posted 10/11/2009 at 20:42:14

Report abuse

Gary, You’ve lost me here. I find this totally confusing. Cahill’s preferred position is just behind the strker whilst Fellaini is much better in the centre of midfield. Cahill has been played outwide for many of the recent games thats why his performance has suffered.What point are you trying to make.
Dick Anderson
3   Posted 10/11/2009 at 20:46:57

Report abuse

In fairness to the big fella he was our Top goalscorer and young-player-of-the-season last term.

Thats not a bad start for a 20-year-old.

This season he’s been inconsistant. Frustrating at times yes but there are spells in which he shows his tremendous potential.

Lets get off his back and give him a chance to develop some more.
Dom Eaton
4   Posted 10/11/2009 at 20:47:51

Report abuse

Gary and Chris, I ask you one question...Were you at the game? He in my humble opinion had a solid game until he got booked. He is a marked man now and maybe we will see the best out of him when we have a midifield...just a thought.
Dave Wilson
5   Posted 10/11/2009 at 20:38:19

Report abuse

YTF do you feel the need to slaughter another player in order to try to promote your pin up boy ? Cahill has had plenty of chances and he has missed them, how can that be Fellaini's fault? Losing form happens to everyone, why not just admit Cahill has been shite?

Try to grasp the difference between playing against some of the world's best defenders in the EPL and strutting your stuff against the likes of Oman and Indonesia.
Brian Waring
6   Posted 10/11/2009 at 21:14:37

Report abuse

Dom, it’s nothing to do with being a marked man. It is that, at times, he is a clumsy fuck.
Dom Eaton
7   Posted 10/11/2009 at 21:27:30

Report abuse

Brain, that's one of the most sensible posts I've read and clearly agree with you. However, Dick is right and for one, I’m fully behind him, it takes a year or maybe longer to get used to the Prem (for some strange reason!!) so let's all give the kid the chance he deserves.
Ciarán McGlone
8   Posted 10/11/2009 at 21:49:08

Report abuse

Cahill plays against nobodies for Australia....That may have something to do with his form for them...in short, your comparison is meaningless

Cahill’s main threat has always been from corners and set pieces...how the hell can playing Fellaini affect his loss of form in this department?
Ryan Holroyd
9   Posted 10/11/2009 at 22:43:01

Report abuse

It’s funny how different people see things. Such as this from the Wes Ham website, westhamtilidie.

’The difference between the two sides was named Fellaini. He had an astonishingly influential game. There seemed to be two of him on the pitch on occasion. He had an absolute stormer of a game. Everything Everton did went through him. He won virtually every header, every tackle, and virtually every pass went where it was intended. A fantastic performance’

Dennis Stevens
10   Posted 10/11/2009 at 22:53:10

Report abuse

I’m in the "Jury’s still out" camp, but felt his performance on Sunday was one of his better one’s, despite the clumsy fouls & unnecessary booking.
Ian Tunstead
11   Posted 11/11/2009 at 00:04:04

Report abuse

Heard all this crap before, its getting boring now.

Who do you want to play instead of Fellaini?
How can Fellaini playing affect Cahills performance?

Fellaini and Rodwell have the most potential in the squad and should both develop into good players, leave the guy alone he hasnt done too bad and can only get better.
Andy Mack
12   Posted 11/11/2009 at 08:00:46

Report abuse

Thanks for posting the hammers website quote Ryan, an outside opinion of Fellaini is always good for perspective. This season especially there seems to be a lot of flack towards players, nothing new, but a player can be someones MotM and someone elses brick-outhouse over the same 90mins.

This whole Cahill v Fellaini thing is getting out of hand, totally different players — although they share a talent for clumsy tackles. Felli usually comes out with the ball, Cahill the opposition's legs.
Peter Griffin
13   Posted 11/11/2009 at 09:19:00

Report abuse

Why people are slating Fellaini, when there are several others whose performances haven’t been anywhere near as good as his, I don’t know.

He can be frustrating with his clumsy tackles, but look at the shape of him. Paul Scholes can’t tackle but he’s one of the best midfielders I’ve ever seen.

No matter what this season, he’s never gone missing. When he came on as a sub against Wigan he changed the game, and we come from behind to win. He slows the game down and plays short simple passes, trouble is his teammates then hoof it most of the time. He closes people down when without possession, and forces mistakes (or freekicks). He has also scored some important goals.

In his all round game he offers more than Cahill and to compare the two is pointless as they’re different types of players.

As someone else said him and Rodwell are the future of our midfield. When Bily and Pienaar are in there with him, and later Arteta, you will appreciate his passing and the amount of ground he covers.

Anyway, Osman will be back soon so it will be back to slagging him off.
Dan McKie
14   Posted 11/11/2009 at 09:31:56

Report abuse

Cahill has been guilty of missing some complete sitters this season, especially at Goodison. Fellaini is class, and offers much more of an all round game than Cahill. Cahill is lost without Neville and Arteta on the pitch with him and he has been showing nothing but frustration in his last few games.

I personally believe that Cahill or Rodwell should be the one for the chop when we can finally field our strongest midfield. That would be Pienaar, Arteta, Bily, Fellaini and Cahill/Rodwell. Lets face it though, the second Arteta gets back, Pienaar will probably get a season ending injury, along with a couple of others. :(

Steve Carter
15   Posted 11/11/2009 at 09:41:18

Report abuse

You’re right, Ciarán. Nobodies. Holland 1 Australia 1 (Cahill) 8/7/08 and, er, what’s their name, ah yes, er, Republic of Ireland 0-Australia 3 13/8/09 (Cahill 2).
Ciarán McGlone
16   Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:27:50

Report abuse

A draw with Holland in a friendly...WOW....I’m sure the ticker tape was out...

And Ireland? Behave yourself.
Damian Scott
17   Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:25:12

Report abuse

That game against Ireland Steve, I wouldn’t read much into.... It was pretty much a reserve side sent out by Trappatoni to give caps to young players...
Wayne Smyth
18   Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:29:14

Report abuse

The team isn’t playing well at the moment and Fellaini as one of the newest and youngest players, who will also have a language problem is also having his performances affected considerably.

What I see when he goes barging around the pitch is someone who is trying, chasing back and working hard. His tackles don’t always come off and when it doesn’t he does look clumsy and poor. But giving 100% effort is the most important thing we should demand of anyone who plays for us.

I think once the wins start coming and our creative types get back into the team, we will see the best out of him and the rest of the team.

I’m not sure he was worth what we paid for him, but that is not his fault. I certainly don't think he’s as poor as some would like to make out.
Simon Kirwan
19   Posted 11/11/2009 at 10:46:28

Report abuse

The original poster is right about Fellaini's new role totally hindering Cahill's but I'm starting to see something in Fellaini these last two games. He is amazigly sluggish and not the pacy winger we crave but his touch, control and aerial presence of late have been exceptional.
Matthew Tait
20   Posted 11/11/2009 at 11:58:03

Report abuse

I’m not convinced that Fellaini is as clumsy or even as slow as he appears — I do think part of it might be almost a bit of an opticial illusion given how tall and gangly he is. Bit, like Peter Crouch looks as slow and clumsy as all hell, he has generally very good ball skills and is overall pretty effective.

Besides, pace is far from being the most important attribute of a central midfielder. It helps, but ball skills, reading the game, passing and vision, even stamina are more important. Viera wasn’t the quickest guy in the world from what I remember, but very effective.

Of course, Fellaini needs to improve a lot of areas of his game, but sometimes I think he gets a bit too much of a hard time on here, even if I do find him a bit frustrating sometimes.

Iain Smith
21   Posted 11/11/2009 at 12:26:01

Report abuse

Not sure how many times this has been posted on about the big fella. But do you actually think we paid £15M for him up front?! No way. If he comes good, which admitedly looks unlikely, then we’ll pay that. Otherwise it’s more like £5M.
Tony Williams
22   Posted 11/11/2009 at 12:46:21

Report abuse

As already mentioned above, it is funny seeing outsider’s views and also the differing views of us, the fans. I think he is a very good and competent player, who is confident with the ball and has been winning a lot more tackles of late with his gangly foot round the back/side and pull it away, a lot of times he is penalised for a foul when he has won it clearly and I have lost count of the times he is double marked yet seems to come away with the ball easily.

He has his bad moments, they all have this season but you can’t accuse him of affecting Cahill’s game when Cahill is missing sitters. I have a fiver on Cahill for the first goal scorer every game and it’s amazing the number of times this season I have cursed him.
Ciarán McGlone
23   Posted 11/11/2009 at 13:25:28

Report abuse

’That game against Ireland Steve, I wouldn’t read much into.... It was pretty much a reserve side sent out by Trappatoni to give caps to young players’
------------------

Not to mention the fact that we’re utter shite....
Ciarán McGlone
24   Posted 11/11/2009 at 13:48:41

Report abuse

Fellaini sprinted in the first half of the Benfica game..

I nearly had a heart attack...
James Boden
25   Posted 11/11/2009 at 14:05:40

Report abuse

I’m sorry but on Sunday I thought Felliaini was garbage again. Whereas Cahill who again played out of position played well for once.
James Stewart
26   Posted 11/11/2009 at 14:18:43

Report abuse

Ciarán, that's rubbish about Australia/Cahill playing minnows I’m sorry. He has played very well for them & against good opposition. No one starts slagging the England players off when they score past Belarus or whoever. It's seen as a good international win.

He hasn’t played well for us though! Strange one but playing on the left & right of midfield wont help matters.

He also struggles when made the focal point of the team in my opinion. He works very well as a second striker making late runs. But, to get the best out of him again, I think you need to revert back to a strict 5-4-1 with certain players back. Whether thats a good move or not is a different question.

Regarding Fellaini, I’m afraid he just frustrates me to death! He does some really impressive things and then some truly woeful! He should be our Veira but he never seems to take charge in midfield which is a crime for someone of his stature.

He is only young I suppose though. He would NOT be in my starting team with a fully fit squad but he’s a useful squad player. Sadly, for the money, he should be more than that.

Dave Wilson
27   Posted 11/11/2009 at 15:28:37

Report abuse

So James... If Jo played for Brasil against Kuwait, Indonesia and Oman and managed to score against one of them, should that get him a place in our side? Instead of Saha maybe?
Tony Williams
28   Posted 11/11/2009 at 15:41:50

Report abuse

James: (1) no surprise there from you.

James: (2) The lanky lampost Crouch has scored lots of goals for England but is still not seriously taken as a great forward... he loves scoring against us though, barsteward.
James Boden
29   Posted 11/11/2009 at 15:46:00

Report abuse

Well, sorry, Tony, if my opinion upset you. I just commented on what I thought was another embarrassing performance from Fellaini. You obviously remember me from previous clashes we have had on here...
Tony Waverleas
30   Posted 11/11/2009 at 15:43:08

Report abuse

Marvellous.

Obviously a slow news day so let’s have an article moaning about one of the players.
Any chance someone could pen something similar that rips into, say, Saha? I mean only the one goal at West Ham & he doesn’t even finish the match, etc, etc

Personally, I’m working on a piece moaning about the appearance & demeanour of our ballboys. I swear one of them had collar-length hair & scuffed trainers at the last game. Honestly.

For the record, Fellaini didn’t strongarm Everton into paying a single penny for him - it was the choice of our manager & board to pay whatever fee they negotiated with Standard. Furthermore, I doubt we’ve paid anything approaching the £15m price tag that’s used so conveniently by his detractors to beat him around his admittedly elaborately coiffeured head.

So, is there any chance we can drop the reference to his fee & the subsequent demands we make on him because of it? Because if nothing else it makes us look utterly small-time.
Ciarán McGlone
31   Posted 11/11/2009 at 16:02:58

Report abuse

’Ciarán, that’s rubbish about Australia/Cahill playing minnows I’m sorry. ’
-----------------------------

Australia (invite)
Brunei
Cambodia
Timor-Leste
Indonesia
Laos
Malaysia
Myanmar
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Vietnam


Sorry, what was rubbish?


Next you’ll be telling me they didn’t draw 1-1 with Oman!
Tony Williams
32   Posted 11/11/2009 at 16:34:57

Report abuse

James you haven’t upset me at all.

Tony, the fee issue gets mentioned everytime someone wants to have a go at Fellaini but each time another poster lets them know that a) It’s has nothing to do with Fellaini how much we paid and b) It was nowhere near the £15m quoted, all the time....but lo and behold, the next thread the circle starts again.
Sean McCarthy
33   Posted 11/11/2009 at 19:04:20

Report abuse

Personally... I think he's shite!!

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment to the MailBag, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and MailBag submissions across the site.



© ToffeeWeb