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Apparently Chelsea has offered Everton £14 million for the youngster Jack Rodwell... which we immediately rejected, thank Christ. Honestly I'm not sure what they were thinking offering such a measley transfer fee for 'our great white hope'.

But this got me thinking: On what basis — if any at all — will you be 'okay' with us letting the lad go?

I say a Champions League qualification and an FA Cup. Then we sell him for £50 million and buy Mutihno and Van der Vaart.
Steve Kiamos, Australia     Posted 14/11/2009 at 00:29:45

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Stuart Mitchell
1   Posted 14/11/2009 at 15:22:27

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I thought Chelsea were banned from making bids for any players!

Although I believe other clubs will be looking at Rodwell, I think this story is just lazy journalism.
Robert Daniels
2   Posted 14/11/2009 at 15:17:18

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I personally would not let Jack Rodwell leave for anything less than £50 million, but I'm not in a position to do anything to stop it happening. That responsibility lies with our beloved chairman and if he says Jack's not going anywhere for less than £50 mill, then you'd better believe it.

Now where did I hear that before?

Matthew Lovekin
3   Posted 14/11/2009 at 15:28:06

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This is pure lazy journo’s making up stories.

However, if it were true, Kenwright does have an ability to get the best deal for Everton. £24m for Lescott, £10m for AJ, £4m for Beattie to a Championship side! Therefore, if Rodwell wants to go and we end up in the same situation as Lescott, then we shouldn’t even discuss it until it hits £30m, and ideally £35m-£40m net.
Andy Codling
4   Posted 14/11/2009 at 15:52:05

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He won't be here in two years time, and Billy Bullshit will take us through months of bollocks and spin, to make it appear that Rodwell is a money-grabbing twat, and that he was crying down the phone to leave. I can imagine Kenwright planning that sale already because, let's face it, he has ran out of options.
Andy Mack
5   Posted 14/11/2009 at 16:08:26

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We’re in danger of developing a track record, "£20m and he’s yours", whoever that player is. I suppose if Moyes wants to buy again, he’ll have to sell up. Although as stated I suspect this it total rubbish.
Gary Mortimer
6   Posted 14/11/2009 at 16:14:25

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Andy, you are so right — it’s all BK’s fault!!! I heard that he was encouraging bids in the range £5m to £6m.

Jack could do a Le Tissier and be a legend for the club, but win sod all — or he could do a Rooney and win Premier League titles and Champions League winner’s medals and be like 99% of footballers who don’t care who they play for as long as they’ve got the best deal their slimeball agent can get for them.

Time will tell I guess. I expect that, as soon as he breaks into the full England squad, the vultures will be circling. All I hope for is that we can somehow defy the injury crisis we’re going through and convince the lad that he should give us a few more years!
Ian Tunstead
7   Posted 14/11/2009 at 16:40:46

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Let's face it, he's never going to get as much playing time for at top 4 side like he does at Everton, so Everton is the best place for him for now. Here, he can develop his game and gain valuable experience; elsewhere, he would be on the bench and played in League Cup games — just like Ramsey and Wilkshire at Arsenal.

If he did go, we would probably buy him back for half the price we sold him for, just like Wright-Philips when he went back to City from Chelsea.
John Keating
8   Posted 14/11/2009 at 17:21:01

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I think a lot will depend on the DK decision. Hopefully it will be turned down and we can seriously look at a Plan B; however, if the nightmare does happen and it is passed, the club will be looking to offload most if not all of its playing assets to subsidise the "free" — presently £78million — part of our share of the new world class stadium.
Gavin Ramejkis
9   Posted 14/11/2009 at 17:22:14

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Unless there is a change of owner the only part of Everton making money is developing and selling players. Rodwell will go at some point and the club will ensure they come out the other side whiter than white as usual. An old dog can’t change his spots.
Mike Oates
10   Posted 14/11/2009 at 19:39:54

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Gavin is absolutely right. Until the day arrives when we manage to get investment or sell or whatever the Board do, then we will always have to sell to get the income to survive. Johnson... Lescott... and next will be Rodwell, and it wouldn’t surprise me, if we DON'T get into Europe next season, then Jack will be off in the summer — not to Chelsea but to Man Utd.
Ken Buckley
11   Posted 14/11/2009 at 19:58:58

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Our record suggests that outstanding players are there for the taking by clubs who are willing to pay the price decided by the club. The only way I see that Jack Rodwell will stay is if he breaks the habit of a lifetime in football and puts money and the chance of honours behind him and says ’I want to stay’ — now that would be something.
Tony Williams
12   Posted 14/11/2009 at 20:12:52

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Errrr... can someone explain to me how a team can put an offer in when the transfer window has closed and it has only just been confirmed last week that the ban has been lifted?.... absolute bollocks
Jay Harris
13   Posted 14/11/2009 at 12:10:55

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I know a lot of fans who say they won't go if Kenwright sells Rodwell but I would like to pose a few thoughts for debate.

In this day and age, football seems to be the one sport where contracts and loyalty go out of the window — in fact I think it has the lowest morals and scruples of any sport. Consequently Billy Bullshitter, who appears unwilling/unable to sell the club right now, might welcome a £20 million addition to the funds.

Think what we could do with £20 million:

  • Buy a top class defensive MF and get change.
  • Put another tier on the Park End adding 8,000 seats to the capacity meaning the restricted views could be sold cheaply (or given to local schools helping promote new Evertonians).
  • Help towards the Green/Earl fund.
On the other hand, do we want to lose such a good prospect who will, if he continues to progress, surely be an England international and important member of the Everton squad? Would it send out the wrong message to the existing squad? Would it mean losing Moyesy? Would we really get a backlash from the matchgoing supporters?

Personally I would rather him stay but I feel the power of money and increased chance of success will have its way.

Ian McDowell
14   Posted 14/11/2009 at 21:14:01

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Rodwell will go. We said Rooney wouldn't... then Lescott... but the fact remains the club has no ambition and doesn't pay top wages; therefore, the best players will always go.
Tom Bowers
15   Posted 14/11/2009 at 22:19:19

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If and when the time comes and a big bid comes in for Rodders then I won’t blame him from moving if it is a hell of a good deal for him. It’s a profession and everyone of us, no matter what we do for a living, will change employers for a better deal.

For the time being, it’s up to Moyes and Kenwright to keep him happy one way or another. If we are unsuccessful on the pitch or cannot give him the right contract then it’s sayonara Jack! He is a great prospect but still has a lot to learn and whether he becomes a great Prem player will remain to be seen.

Dick Fearon
16   Posted 14/11/2009 at 22:22:27

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When the time comes for the lad to move on, I would naturally expect BK to exaggerate his worth. To start negotiations at a lower asking price would be lunacy.
Iain Love
17   Posted 14/11/2009 at 23:28:00

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Rodwell has decent potential, and you dont pay £50mill for that. He will stay with us for now as he’s getting game time.

Parker for West Ham is much better at the momment and you don't see the top 4 knocking on his door, oh yes Chelsea did then got rid. Rooney was always destined for the top, Lescott went for FAR more than his worth and Rodwell ATM aint in Rooney's league.

Robert Daniels
18   Posted 14/11/2009 at 23:48:59

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Iain, but he is in Rooney's league. Don't you know a great player when you see one? He's 18 and playing in the best league in the world, he is going to be the complete midfielder.

When was the last 18 year old that could perform like he has in midfield? He is what everyone is looking for and, for now, he's ours. £50 million is a snip, Iain, and don't forget it.

Roy Coyne
19   Posted 15/11/2009 at 00:52:04

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He will go if he carries on improving. Sadly we are no longer an attraction, we have no real hopes. Bill can only give Moyes money when he sells... how have we ended up like this?
James I'Anson
20   Posted 15/11/2009 at 11:18:52

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Destination Kirby will be knocked back.
Bill’s ringfenced £78m will disappear.
Rodwell will be sold.
Everton will be sold.

Remember Big Dunc and Peter Johnson.
Gareth Hughes
21   Posted 15/11/2009 at 11:55:59

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Everyone raves on about our so called fantastic youth policy, citing Rodwell as another example. But we are second bottom of the reserve league where most of these ’outstanding’ young players presumably are.

Apart from Rooney, who has made it at Everton in the last 10 years? Two players: Tony Hibbert and Leon Osman — both of them are amongst the most average to poor players I’ve ever seen in the royal blue.

I feel we, as Evertonians, cling to small comforts as we come to terms with our rapidly dwindling standing in the modern game. This supposedly tremendous youth policy is one of them.

Guy Hastings
22   Posted 15/11/2009 at 13:11:57

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Utd will get Rodwell and in return we’ll get £10m cash paid over three years, Gary Neville (for derby appearances only), Owen Hargreaves on a stretcher and a free pass for Old Trafford’s trophy room tour.
Mike Gwyer
23   Posted 15/11/2009 at 13:51:08

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Guy, I wish the sarcasm in your post was true.

Rodwell will go, probably to United and we will get SAF’s castoffs. However, I doubt they will show BK the trophy room, though you did forget to mention that BK must bow and say “Thank You SAF” as he walks out.

Sad days, but we are becoming United’s reserves. We, the fans, ponder as to what formation or players Moyes will use, when they are all fit... BK looks at selling them!
Alan Kirwin
24   Posted 15/11/2009 at 14:50:12

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Pathetic whinging, Usual crap linking any spurious transfer "news" that isn’t news to Kenwright and then it’s slag Kenwright for the 999th time. Can this get any more boring?

It’s called the real world. Man Utd and Chelsea have a dozen unbroken years in the Champions League, and the income that brings. Chelsea have benefitted from almost £1bn of free money laundering from a Russian oligarch (who could only do it in London). Man Utd get 75,000 EVERY game and have a membership several times that number.

What exactly is the news here?

Everton has its place in the food chain. We can attract players from some clubs, but not from others. The reasons are obvious. The problem is what? We attracted one of the best young players in Germany here in the summer from Hamburg, who didn’t get a penny despite him being there for years. Did you all whinge then?

If Evertonians started to fill our beleagured 40,000 stadium each game, and if we had a waiting list & membership of over 100,000, and yes, if we’d been lucky enough to strike for the top again when the Premier League was off & running like ManU (after no title for 28 years), rather than 8 years earlier, as we did when English teams were banned from Europe and the whole thing was pointless, then it may have been different.

But, whingers, Arsenal have had NO OUTSIDE INVESTMENT WHATSOEVER other than their regular income from games, tv, sponsorship & retailing. They have the advantage of London and have shown other clubs how it can be done without incurring ridiculous debt levels or having a sugar daddy (as only two clubs do).

Rodwell does not want to leave Everton. But if the rumours persist, and the price reaches silly levels for an 18-year-old, and he gets offered an utterly obscene package for his age, then what do you think will or should happen? How many of you would turn down a tripling or quadrupling of your income?

The hypocrisy and faux piety is beyond boring. It also misses the point. Until football rejoins the real world of economics and, dare I say it, a more level playing field, this is how it will be. And in all honesty, getting £20m for a kid who is potentially fabulous but we don’t exactly rely on week by week seems good business to me.

I wish he'd stay, but that view is divorced from the real world.

Nothing whatsoever to do with Kenwright. Turn the record over, it’s worn out.
Keith Glazzard
25   Posted 15/11/2009 at 17:40:37

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Is someone going to offer £20m for Rodwell? Almost certainly. And how will this bid be conducted? In private, club to club? No chance. It will be just as loadsamoney Hughes did for Lescott — in the media.

No illegal tapping up involved, of course. Some porno-journo says millions are on offer, massive salary packages are assured, and the player (and his people, whoever they are) is ’unsettled’. What does he do? What does the manager do? And all the chairman can do is to hang on for the eventual highest price. Maybe £30m, possibly much more in a bidding war.

That’s the shitty real world we live in, fuelled by The Sun, Sky and everyone that gives them money.
Mike Gwyer
26   Posted 15/11/2009 at 18:32:03

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Alan...Good points.

However, when you look at what Moyes has achieved the past two seasons and the possibilities that were made open to EFC, in particular this season, you become despondent with the support provided by the Board to Moyes.

This site has numerous references as to what BK has achieved, or not, for EFC. How you look at those achievements or the “or not’s”, whether that is through the national media or what media EFC care to release, is for all intentions your own opinion. Others may disagree but it’s your opinion.

Being a totally mad Evertonian, I fully understand that others may disagree with my thoughts; however, from my seat, the quota of shit that BK and his beloved Board pass to the EFC masses is quite intolerable.

Personally, I would love Rodwell to stay. But hey, we are in a food chain, somewhere at the bottom it seems, providing players for the Sky4 mob and the Sky4 wannabes.
Jason Lam
27   Posted 16/11/2009 at 02:37:08

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Rodwell ain’t that good and we’re far better off without him. Hang on, have we sold him yet?
Iain Love
28   Posted 16/11/2009 at 08:23:12

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Robert, If you read my post I said Rodwell ain't in Rooney's league, ATM. If he was, he would be in the England team for one, and he wouldn’t get dominated by other midfielders a la Parker. The potential is there and I admit his true worth won't be seen until he has our regular midfield around him.

As for recognising great players when I see them, I must suffer the same as Capello because I wouldn’t put him in the full England team yet either. Wiltshire at Arsenal has as much potential and Fabragas was performing in midfield at 18. £50 mill a snip if it improves the team as a whole, as did the Rooney and Lescott money... fine by me.

John Gaulton
29   Posted 16/11/2009 at 16:52:32

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Rumours rumours rumours. Before we start moaning, everyone, let's wait to see if its true. It is probably just the papers stirring it up to get some news.

He is a blue for now and that is all that matters.
Pablo Mc
30   Posted 16/11/2009 at 17:37:15

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Here’s what I put on The Independent website in response to the article (can’t be bothered editing, lazy arse !) :

The problem won’t be Rodwell’s ambition/greed/whatever (his dad has said that he will only leave Everton when Everton decide to get rid of him) it’s the fact that we are unfortunately skint (as we were when Rooney was sold - ever wonder why Everton accepted a deal for just £10m upfront and the rest on the drip ? To pay back a £10.4m debt to Singer & Friedlander is why)

The bad news for us Evertonians is that 2 months ago we secured a similar such loan from Barclays against THIS season’s broadcasting revenue (due to be paid to us at the end of this season - May 2010) and we have ALSO just got a loan from Investec secured by the FOLLOWING season’s broadcasting revenue (that’s 2010-11, due to be paid to us in May 2011 !) so it looks like we are skint again which makes reports such as Chelsea’s bid a genuine possibility.

The sale of players such as Jack unfortunately seems to be the long-term plan for our board - but that will pale into insignificance if the Desperation Kirkby project is given the go-ahead. Decision due by November 27th and all right-minded Evertonians must be praying that the government put it where it belongs - into the bin.
Robert Daniels
31   Posted 16/11/2009 at 18:21:04

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Iain... Sorry if I sounded a bit off, just can't stomach the fact that you wait all your life for a world class player to come along like Rooney, who was supposed to be a blue, and we fuckin' sell him.

Now it's like Groundhog Day with Rodwell and sure enough he'll be off, even if he doesn't want too, because of this 'regime' for want of a better word... They couldn't give a hoot about us fans so long as they keep themselves afloat, no offence intended, Iain.

Iain Love
32   Posted 17/11/2009 at 08:12:01

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Players come players go , but Everton will always be there. I dont like the thought that we sell our better players, but needs must.
A lot is said about this current regime but given our financial state it makes sense to do what they do, and outside of the sky 4 we have been the best of the rest for some time. What does irk me is all these investors buying other clubs instead of us ? and why can’t we sort our marketing out, i visit Spain frequently and see the sky 4 plus Spurs and Newcastle shirts for sale but rarely ours, WHY ?
Alan Clarke
33   Posted 17/11/2009 at 09:56:19

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I actually agree with you Kirwin for once regarding our place in the food chain. However when you have someone like Kenwright in charge, you remain bottom of the food chain. The only way he can run Everton as a business is to sell our most prized assets to keep us afloat.

You say yourself that Rodwell doesn’t want to go. It’s hardly the lure of Chelsea and Man U that would make him leave, it would be more to do with our skint chairman pushing him out of the door. So it is Kenwright’s fault because that’s how he runs Everton. What a legacy this man will have - selling Rooney, selling Rodwell and moving us to Kirkby. He really is a true blue!
Tom Brown
34   Posted 17/11/2009 at 13:01:08

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Iain. Forget Spain. Down here in Southern England, a good share of shops don’t stock Everton stuff. It annoys me, but to be fair, I can understand it as I don’t often bump into Evertonians living down here (compared to how often I bump into Sky 4, Newcastlle, Villa, barcodes, etc etc) and the shops are trying to make money.....
Steven Smith
35   Posted 18/11/2009 at 10:05:39

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In response to the many rumours and articles flying around at the moment regarding Jack Rodwell's future at Everton, I I hope that we don't see him departing anytime soon!! He has a great future ahead of him and I would really love to see him at Everton for a long time to come.

I would also like to see him take up the centre back position alongside Phil Jagielka when he returns. I feel he would add a touch of class to the back line with his passing ability instead of the Distin-style hoof up the pitch!! Heitinga then playing as the holding midfielder and I would be more than happy.

I like Yobo and Distin but the chances of them two getting the ball down and playing it out of defence is as likely as Tony Hibbert beating Usain Bolt in the 100m sprint!

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