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Apparently Chelsea has offered Everton £14 million for the youngster Jack Rodwell... which we immediately rejected, thank Christ. Honestly I'm not sure what they were thinking offering such a measley transfer fee for 'our great white hope'.
But this got me thinking: On what basis — if any at all — will you be 'okay' with us letting the lad go?
I say a Champions League qualification and an FA Cup. Then we sell him for £50 million and buy Mutihno and Van der Vaart.
Steve Kiamos, Posted 14/11/2009 at 00:29:45
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Now where did I hear that before?
However, if it were true, Kenwright does have an ability to get the best deal for Everton. £24m for Lescott, £10m for AJ, £4m for Beattie to a Championship side! Therefore, if Rodwell wants to go and we end up in the same situation as Lescott, then we shouldn’t even discuss it until it hits £30m, and ideally £35m-£40m net.
Jack could do a Le Tissier and be a legend for the club, but win sod all — or he could do a Rooney and win Premier League titles and Champions League winner’s medals and be like 99% of footballers who don’t care who they play for as long as they’ve got the best deal their slimeball agent can get for them.
Time will tell I guess. I expect that, as soon as he breaks into the full England squad, the vultures will be circling. All I hope for is that we can somehow defy the injury crisis we’re going through and convince the lad that he should give us a few more years!
If he did go, we would probably buy him back for half the price we sold him for, just like Wright-Philips when he went back to City from Chelsea.
In this day and age, football seems to be the one sport where contracts and loyalty go out of the window — in fact I think it has the lowest morals and scruples of any sport. Consequently Billy Bullshitter, who appears unwilling/unable to sell the club right now, might welcome a £20 million addition to the funds.
Think what we could do with £20 million:
- Buy a top class defensive MF and get change.
- Put another tier on the Park End adding 8,000 seats to the capacity meaning the restricted views could be sold cheaply (or given to local schools helping promote new Evertonians).
- Help towards the Green/Earl fund.
Personally I would rather him stay but I feel the power of money and increased chance of success will have its way.
For the time being, it’s up to Moyes and Kenwright to keep him happy one way or another. If we are unsuccessful on the pitch or cannot give him the right contract then it’s sayonara Jack! He is a great prospect but still has a lot to learn and whether he becomes a great Prem player will remain to be seen.
Parker for West Ham is much better at the momment and you don't see the top 4 knocking on his door, oh yes Chelsea did then got rid. Rooney was always destined for the top, Lescott went for FAR more than his worth and Rodwell ATM aint in Rooney's league.
When was the last 18 year old that could perform like he has in midfield? He is what everyone is looking for and, for now, he's ours. £50 million is a snip, Iain, and don't forget it.
Bill’s ringfenced £78m will disappear.
Rodwell will be sold.
Everton will be sold.
Remember Big Dunc and Peter Johnson.
Apart from Rooney, who has made it at Everton in the last 10 years? Two players: Tony Hibbert and Leon Osman — both of them are amongst the most average to poor players I’ve ever seen in the royal blue.
I feel we, as Evertonians, cling to small comforts as we come to terms with our rapidly dwindling standing in the modern game. This supposedly tremendous youth policy is one of them.
Rodwell will go, probably to United and we will get SAF’s castoffs. However, I doubt they will show BK the trophy room, though you did forget to mention that BK must bow and say “Thank You SAF” as he walks out.
Sad days, but we are becoming United’s reserves. We, the fans, ponder as to what formation or players Moyes will use, when they are all fit... BK looks at selling them!
It’s called the real world. Man Utd and Chelsea have a dozen unbroken years in the Champions League, and the income that brings. Chelsea have benefitted from almost £1bn of free money laundering from a Russian oligarch (who could only do it in London). Man Utd get 75,000 EVERY game and have a membership several times that number.
What exactly is the news here?
Everton has its place in the food chain. We can attract players from some clubs, but not from others. The reasons are obvious. The problem is what? We attracted one of the best young players in Germany here in the summer from Hamburg, who didn’t get a penny despite him being there for years. Did you all whinge then?
If Evertonians started to fill our beleagured 40,000 stadium each game, and if we had a waiting list & membership of over 100,000, and yes, if we’d been lucky enough to strike for the top again when the Premier League was off & running like ManU (after no title for 28 years), rather than 8 years earlier, as we did when English teams were banned from Europe and the whole thing was pointless, then it may have been different.
But, whingers, Arsenal have had NO OUTSIDE INVESTMENT WHATSOEVER other than their regular income from games, tv, sponsorship & retailing. They have the advantage of London and have shown other clubs how it can be done without incurring ridiculous debt levels or having a sugar daddy (as only two clubs do).
Rodwell does not want to leave Everton. But if the rumours persist, and the price reaches silly levels for an 18-year-old, and he gets offered an utterly obscene package for his age, then what do you think will or should happen? How many of you would turn down a tripling or quadrupling of your income?
The hypocrisy and faux piety is beyond boring. It also misses the point. Until football rejoins the real world of economics and, dare I say it, a more level playing field, this is how it will be. And in all honesty, getting £20m for a kid who is potentially fabulous but we don’t exactly rely on week by week seems good business to me.
I wish he'd stay, but that view is divorced from the real world.
Nothing whatsoever to do with Kenwright. Turn the record over, it’s worn out.
No illegal tapping up involved, of course. Some porno-journo says millions are on offer, massive salary packages are assured, and the player (and his people, whoever they are) is ’unsettled’. What does he do? What does the manager do? And all the chairman can do is to hang on for the eventual highest price. Maybe £30m, possibly much more in a bidding war.
That’s the shitty real world we live in, fuelled by The Sun, Sky and everyone that gives them money.
However, when you look at what Moyes has achieved the past two seasons and the possibilities that were made open to EFC, in particular this season, you become despondent with the support provided by the Board to Moyes.
This site has numerous references as to what BK has achieved, or not, for EFC. How you look at those achievements or the “or not’s”, whether that is through the national media or what media EFC care to release, is for all intentions your own opinion. Others may disagree but it’s your opinion.
Being a totally mad Evertonian, I fully understand that others may disagree with my thoughts; however, from my seat, the quota of shit that BK and his beloved Board pass to the EFC masses is quite intolerable.
Personally, I would love Rodwell to stay. But hey, we are in a food chain, somewhere at the bottom it seems, providing players for the Sky4 mob and the Sky4 wannabes.
As for recognising great players when I see them, I must suffer the same as Capello because I wouldn’t put him in the full England team yet either. Wiltshire at Arsenal has as much potential and Fabragas was performing in midfield at 18. £50 mill a snip if it improves the team as a whole, as did the Rooney and Lescott money... fine by me.
He is a blue for now and that is all that matters.
The problem won’t be Rodwell’s ambition/greed/whatever (his dad has said that he will only leave Everton when Everton decide to get rid of him) it’s the fact that we are unfortunately skint (as we were when Rooney was sold - ever wonder why Everton accepted a deal for just £10m upfront and the rest on the drip ? To pay back a £10.4m debt to Singer & Friedlander is why)
The bad news for us Evertonians is that 2 months ago we secured a similar such loan from Barclays against THIS season’s broadcasting revenue (due to be paid to us at the end of this season - May 2010) and we have ALSO just got a loan from Investec secured by the FOLLOWING season’s broadcasting revenue (that’s 2010-11, due to be paid to us in May 2011 !) so it looks like we are skint again which makes reports such as Chelsea’s bid a genuine possibility.
The sale of players such as Jack unfortunately seems to be the long-term plan for our board - but that will pale into insignificance if the Desperation Kirkby project is given the go-ahead. Decision due by November 27th and all right-minded Evertonians must be praying that the government put it where it belongs - into the bin.
Now it's like Groundhog Day with Rodwell and sure enough he'll be off, even if he doesn't want too, because of this 'regime' for want of a better word... They couldn't give a hoot about us fans so long as they keep themselves afloat, no offence intended, Iain.
A lot is said about this current regime but given our financial state it makes sense to do what they do, and outside of the sky 4 we have been the best of the rest for some time. What does irk me is all these investors buying other clubs instead of us ? and why can’t we sort our marketing out, i visit Spain frequently and see the sky 4 plus Spurs and Newcastle shirts for sale but rarely ours, WHY ?
You say yourself that Rodwell doesn’t want to go. It’s hardly the lure of Chelsea and Man U that would make him leave, it would be more to do with our skint chairman pushing him out of the door. So it is Kenwright’s fault because that’s how he runs Everton. What a legacy this man will have - selling Rooney, selling Rodwell and moving us to Kirkby. He really is a true blue!
I would also like to see him take up the centre back position alongside Phil Jagielka when he returns. I feel he would add a touch of class to the back line with his passing ability instead of the Distin-style hoof up the pitch!! Heitinga then playing as the holding midfielder and I would be more than happy.
I like Yobo and Distin but the chances of them two getting the ball down and playing it out of defence is as likely as Tony Hibbert beating Usain Bolt in the 100m sprint!
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1 Posted 14/11/2009 at 15:22:27
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Although I believe other clubs will be looking at Rodwell, I think this story is just lazy journalism.