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Thank you, David Moyes

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David Moyes on Sky Sports News:

"It is disappointing for the club but I don't think I'd have bought Everton when they were in the situation of will they get Kirkby, won't they get Kirkby," said the Toffees boss.

"One way or another we needed this decision as it has been hanging over us for a couple of years.

"If there are any buyers out there - and Bill Kenwright has said if there is anyone he would be willing to speak to them and do business - this may well force them out of the woodwork.

"I also think Liverpool council have said to us many times there are sites for us in the city so I'm looking forward to hearing what they can come up with.

"But I love Goodison and if I thought it could be fixed and put in the condition we want that would give me the biggest thrill.

"But maybe in the world just now the viable cost of it can't happen."

Over to you Mr Kenwright.


Steven Flavin, Liverpool     Posted 27/11/2009 at 13:18:56

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Alan Kirwin
1   Posted 27/11/2009 at 17:24:20

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If only it were that simple.
Bryan Douglas
2   Posted 27/11/2009 at 17:56:27

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....tune in next week when we will learn how to build the Great Wall of China out of toilet rolls and flour glue.....FFS
John Andrews
3   Posted 27/11/2009 at 20:31:53

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Unfortunately "Billy Bullshit" is only looking for investment instead of looking to sell the club. Until he decides that he wants to sell then absolutely nothing will happen.
Tony Doran
4   Posted 27/11/2009 at 21:14:55

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The way i always seen it was like this!
It’s like Kenwright has a house he’s trying to flog but first he wants to get a grant to do it up to get more money for it. Now he’s been knocked back he’ll have to sell at a very discounted rate maybe even lose money.
There’s always someone ready to take an old bondy off somebody who’s bleeding if the price is right. Over to you Bill.
Gavin Harris
5   Posted 27/11/2009 at 23:21:00

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My sentiment exactly. Kirkby would have been a good step forward but now we can say, "OK Liverpool Council, where can we move or, if we stay at GP, how can you help us to fund it?"

Because, like Moyes says, we cannot afford to rebuild GP.
Phil Bellis
6   Posted 28/11/2009 at 00:53:37

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Gavin... why should the ratepayers of Liverpool help fund revamping Goodison? That’s what a succession of inept, visionless Boards should have been doing the past 20-odd years...
Norman Merrill
7   Posted 28/11/2009 at 01:33:21

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I would not hold your breath.
Sean McCarthy
8   Posted 28/11/2009 at 10:33:20

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I agree with Phil - why should Liverpool City Council ratepayers bear the cost of a new or improved stadium?? There's plenty of REAL issues that affect the City of Liverpool and I don't think the state of the to football stadia is one of them. What it is is a HUGE issue for the clubs to sort out not the Council. Investment or new owners are what's needed but from where I'm sat there seemed precious little of either.

Hopefully the issue will be have become more widely known after this week's decision which featured on all the national news channels as well as Sky Sports and that someone somewhere is out there thinking they fancy doing something about it.

I'm not holding my breath though!!

Garry Martin
9   Posted 28/11/2009 at 10:36:20

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The whole affair of the new ground has been run exactly the same as our transfer dealings. Only at EFC would you get the "comings & goings" that our supporters have to put up with. All clubs in the FA, from top to bottom, just do it or not — we make everything complicated!!!
Ciarán McGlone
10   Posted 28/11/2009 at 12:39:27

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’I agree with Phil - why should Liverpool council payers bear the cost of a new or improved stadium??’

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SInce when did ratepayers have a direct veto on how their money is applied to amenity imrpovement?
Phil Bellis
11   Posted 28/11/2009 at 13:02:32

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Ciarán
By electing kopites to manage the cash
Gavin Ramejkis
12   Posted 28/11/2009 at 14:19:21

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Phila and Ciarán, LCC couldn’t directly fund the renovation of Goodison Park from ratepayers. Why would a ratepayer fund a private enterprise? Goodison Park isn’t a public place, you get charged to go in and the money goes to Everton Football Club Ltd, they in turn pay rates and taxes for being there. Funding could be sought with LCC as a conduit via whatever Euro Quangos still exist but I’m pretty sure we pissed on that chance with KD, I don’t think NWDA funds on that scale are available anymore and it would take private companies wanting to join as partners with them in turn getting sweeteners from LCC as incentive to come to the region.

The club needs to swallow it’s pride and go cap in hand and look at every avenue it can, be that shared stadium or Bestway or Peel Holdings or whoever else can come to the table and help out. Why not put it out to tender and see who comes out of the woodwork and fuck this exclusivity bollocks off UNTIL something concrete which ticks ALL the boxes; location, cost, size, access, off field income generation, etc.
Ciarán McGlone
13   Posted 28/11/2009 at 15:46:11

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Again, you pose the question "Why would taxpayers fund it?"... as if they have a choice in the matter... they don’t... unless you call a 20% turnout in council elections a direct influence.

In the same way that I do not have a choice that my rates go towards funding various private oganisations -if they’re aims are considered an improvement of public amenity in a private vote in chambers.

And anyway, any taxpayer who opposed a publicly funded shared stadium on the ’it doesn’t do anything for me’ basis really doesn’t understand the importance of attracting people to spend money in their areas.
David Hallwood
14   Posted 28/11/2009 at 19:37:42

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John Andrews, I’ve said this on TW many times, selling a club isn’t the same as selling a house or a car, and what prospective owners do is buy up the shares. A perfect example is Stan Kroenke, who’s been buying shares in Arsenal for the past 3 years and the more shares he buys, the more influence he has. I know it doesn’t fit into your hate figure of Bullshit Billy the man who wants to fuck us over, but that’s the reality.
Phil Bellis
15   Posted 28/11/2009 at 20:36:15

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Ciarán, similar to Cork Council’s proposal to build a mosque for local Muslims...
John Andrews
16   Posted 29/11/2009 at 00:26:24

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David Hallwood, I do realise that selling a club bears no resemblance whatsoever to selling a house or a car, believe it or not. However, recent talk has been of "Billy Bullshit" looking for INVESTORS!

This at first glance, to me anyway, makes it seem that he is not ready to go yet. I don’t need to go through all of the lies do I?

Greg Kelly
17   Posted 02/12/2009 at 07:51:22

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We the enlightened ToffeeWeb fans of EFC should build an alliance with like-minded LFC fans and develop a movement for a shared stadium. It is the solution for the economic times we are in. They can't afford a new stadium and neither can we — for both it would mean draining the transfer pot for years ahead. What do we want — a beautiful team or a beautiful stadium? It is the green solution and with both working together with the City it could be built as such with coherent transport links. To save any naming controversy we could even call it GREEN PARK.

An opportunity for the great football tradition of the city to blaze a trail.

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