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No not the rambings of the FSW, but those of a seriously depressed Bluenose. I seriously upset family yesterday, when I decided watching Everton in the pub was more important than going to my nephew's Christening. Okay, I got there 5 pints later and as I said to the the vicar, there aint anything as painful as watching Everton under Moyes, the beer was ap ainkiller, purley on medical grounds!
Fact 1) There are not 3 worse teams in the Premier League than Everton, as an article in a paper today described Everton as the worst "pure footballing " team ever to grace the Premier League.
Fact 2) We will at best end up with 46 points.
Fact 3) It's not injuries and Europe that have ruined our season, it's Moyes and Billy bullshit.
FACT 4) iF you cannot put the ball in the back of then net then you are fucked; we clearly cannot... Bambi on ice, go back to City.
Let's just hope we can bounce straight back up like Newcastle look like they will do, at least we get £50 million in parachute payments!
Chris Perry, Posted 30/11/2009 at 09:58:09
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What complete bullshit. I agree we are shite at the minute but this is a bit ott. We actually played really well yesterday but in our current form as usual luck wasn't with us. If we play like that every week we’l be ok.
Parachute payments? i think you get more for being in the Premier League and that's where we’ll be playing next season. I'll bet anything you want on that.
Parachute payments? i think you get more for being in the Premier League and that's where we’ll be playing next season. I'll bet anything you want on that.
Suggest you look up the meaning of the word ’fact’ Chris.
What a stupid comment.
Fact 1) There are in actuality 4 worse teams then Everton in the Premier League: West Ham, Bolton, Wolves & Portsmouth. All of them are below Everton in the league and therefore worse teams.
Also to say that it's fact that Everton are the worst pure footballing team ever to grace the Premier league is silly. Are Wolves playing better football then us? What about Aidy Boothroyd’s awful Watford side which were relegated after one season of Prem football. We are not the worst footballing side ever.
Fact 2) It is impossible to guess how many points Everton will achieve this season. To say it's fact that Everton will not get more then 46 points is crazy. It's possible that they wont score 46 points but it's not FACT.
Fact 1) There are in actuality 4 worse teams then Everton in the Premier League: West Ham, Bolton, Wolves & Portsmouth. All of them are below Everton in the league and therefore worse teams.
Also to say that it's fact that Everton are the worst pure footballing team ever to grace the Premier league is silly. Are Wolves playing better football then us? What about Aidy Boothroyd’s awful Watford side which were relegated after one season of Prem football. We are not the worst footballing side ever.
Fact 2) It is impossible to guess how many points Everton will achieve this season. To say it's fact that Everton will not get more then 46 points is crazy. It's possible that they wont score 46 points but it's not FACT.
Fact 5: Your facts aren’t facts — they aren’t even convincing claims.
A paper says something so it must be true?
A paper says something so it must be true?
Fact 1. Parachute payments have been scrapped for a much smaller financial scheme.
Fact 2. They were never anywere near £50 million!
Fact 2. They were never anywere near £50 million!
Chris, I agree with what you're saying. Problem is too many people seem to think Moyes has Evertonian hero status all because he got us to the Champions League, finished 5th a couple of times and got us to an FA Cup final. People forget we ended up looking like complete amateurs in the Champions League, got smashed in the Uefa Cup, and fell apart at Wembley. Not good enough for me and not good enough for Everton.
Well, Chris, it seems you have upset the apple cart.
However, I agree in principle with your comments based on the footy I have had to suffer for the past two seasons. On the whole it has been shite.
Watching Everton, to me, is hard work and although we are not the worst footballing team I’ve seen, over the past few seasons, the sad act is that we are somewhere down the bottom. You know — the end bit.
Unfortunately there seems to be an inevitability concerning Moyes and BK. They both seem to be hanging around the exits just waiting for the right moment to fuck off.
However, I agree in principle with your comments based on the footy I have had to suffer for the past two seasons. On the whole it has been shite.
Watching Everton, to me, is hard work and although we are not the worst footballing team I’ve seen, over the past few seasons, the sad act is that we are somewhere down the bottom. You know — the end bit.
Unfortunately there seems to be an inevitability concerning Moyes and BK. They both seem to be hanging around the exits just waiting for the right moment to fuck off.
Dick Anderson, I suggest you take a look at the table, there are 3 teams below us. Also Portsmouth play better football than Everton do and it breaks my balls to say that.
I think you quite frankly live in cloud cookoo land.
I think you quite frankly live in cloud cookoo land.
FACT 1
Is not a fact. There are currently 4 worse teams below us in the Premiership.
FACT 2
Is not a fact. Its only a guess to say Everton will not score more then 46 points. You cannot claim your best guess as fact.
FACT 3
Is not a fact. Firstly the season is not ruined, only the first third has been awful. Secondly injuries and Europe have contributed to the problems. Our bad form is down to a number of reasons not just Moyes and Bill Kenwright.
FACT 4
Is not a fact. Everton have scored 17 league goals in 14 games so clearly they can put the ball in the back of the net. Stoke have only scored 13 goals and they find themselves in the Top 10 so clearly you are not fucked if you're not big scorers.
Here’s one for you:-
FACT 5
None of your facts are actually facts. They are in fact just opinions and guesses.
Is not a fact. There are currently 4 worse teams below us in the Premiership.
FACT 2
Is not a fact. Its only a guess to say Everton will not score more then 46 points. You cannot claim your best guess as fact.
FACT 3
Is not a fact. Firstly the season is not ruined, only the first third has been awful. Secondly injuries and Europe have contributed to the problems. Our bad form is down to a number of reasons not just Moyes and Bill Kenwright.
FACT 4
Is not a fact. Everton have scored 17 league goals in 14 games so clearly they can put the ball in the back of the net. Stoke have only scored 13 goals and they find themselves in the Top 10 so clearly you are not fucked if you're not big scorers.
Here’s one for you:-
FACT 5
None of your facts are actually facts. They are in fact just opinions and guesses.
Bryan why don’t you look at the messages? No one has explicitly praised Moyes. All they’ve done is pointed out that the people criticising him are claiming things are facts that blatantly aren’t.
Whilst forever a pessimist and certainly no fan of Moyes, I still confidently forecast we shall finish no lower than 10th. I suppose with our crap set-up that will be hailed as a good achievement! How have the mighty fallen!
John, you know as well as I do that the pro-Moyes evangelical chorus is all over this site making claims that he is the messiah. So when they ’criticize’ the critics of Moyes they are doing more than saying they are wrong — they commit blasphemy and are unworthy citizens — so don’t pull that one.
If you regularly spout rubbish like this Chris, I’m surprised your family wanted you anywhere near a Christening!
I can just imagine you telling the Vicar that there is a God- FACT - that your nephew will live to 100 - FACT, that his church roof will leak next week - FACT and that God will not approve of Gay Clergmen - FACT
Whilst these could be facts in your mind, they are merely opinions and predictions, like all your Everton facts above.... and you begin by saying it was not a rant! In my opinion your piece is a Rant - fact.
Whilst I understand your frustration I think you need to calm down a bit and remember that football is a game of opinions and the only Facts are League tables and you twice got that wrong!
I can just imagine you telling the Vicar that there is a God- FACT - that your nephew will live to 100 - FACT, that his church roof will leak next week - FACT and that God will not approve of Gay Clergmen - FACT
Whilst these could be facts in your mind, they are merely opinions and predictions, like all your Everton facts above.... and you begin by saying it was not a rant! In my opinion your piece is a Rant - fact.
Whilst I understand your frustration I think you need to calm down a bit and remember that football is a game of opinions and the only Facts are League tables and you twice got that wrong!
Fact 1) There are not 3 worse teams in the Premier League than Everton, as an article in a paper today described Everton as the worst "pure footballing " team ever to grace the Premier League.
I think you will find there are a lot more than 3 worse teams than us in the Premier League, look no further than Portsmouth, Wolves, Bolton, Hull, Wigan. And when we find our form again, which we will, there will be a lot more teams to add to that list.
As for we are the "worst pure footballing side ever to grace the Prem" I’m sorry but either your suffering from slight amnesia or your being completely over the top in your statement.
Have you forgotten Derby County (2007-08) a team that conceeded 87 goals, scored less than 30 and registered just 11 points over 38 games. Or West Brom, who since 2002 have been relegated on three occassions. Sunderland 2005 and Watford 2000 also might need a mention.
I really doubt we are the worst team to grace the Premier League.
I think you will find there are a lot more than 3 worse teams than us in the Premier League, look no further than Portsmouth, Wolves, Bolton, Hull, Wigan. And when we find our form again, which we will, there will be a lot more teams to add to that list.
As for we are the "worst pure footballing side ever to grace the Prem" I’m sorry but either your suffering from slight amnesia or your being completely over the top in your statement.
Have you forgotten Derby County (2007-08) a team that conceeded 87 goals, scored less than 30 and registered just 11 points over 38 games. Or West Brom, who since 2002 have been relegated on three occassions. Sunderland 2005 and Watford 2000 also might need a mention.
I really doubt we are the worst team to grace the Premier League.
Bryan Douglas: "John, you know as well as I do that the pro-Moyes evangelical chorus is all over this site making claims that he is the messiah. So when they ’criticize’ the critics of Moyes they are doing more than saying they are wrong — they commit blasphemy and are unworthy citizens — so don’t pull that one."
Another stupid comment on many levels Bryan, congratulations, but at least you didn’t use the word ’fact’ to describe it.
Another stupid comment on many levels Bryan, congratulations, but at least you didn’t use the word ’fact’ to describe it.
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We’re shite buddy and no-one seems to want to admit it.