The Mail Bag

Moyes's Post-Match Interview

Comments (17)

I've listened to David Moyes's post match interview a couple of times now.

I would like guidance, please. Is he delusional, lying or ignorant?

Support the players in public by all means if there is a shred of evidence to support your view. But kindly don't take the paying public for complete fools.

Or have I missed something?
Mike McLean, Cheshire     Posted 07/02/2010 at 04:26:08

back Return to the Mail Bag

Comments

Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer


Dick Fearon
1   Posted 07/02/2010 at 01:47:42

Report abuse

It is nonsense to moan about a 10 man team beating us. As far as I could see we only had 8 players on the field. Saha, Pienaar and Osman were missing in action. Of the rest only Heitinga, Cahill and Donovan compared with their opposite numbers. Take your pick out of these opposing pairings. Neville or Carragher, Insua or Baines, Kuyt or Saha, Gerrard or Pienaar, Howard or Reina, Distin or Agger and last but not least Osman or Mascherano. To complete the comparisons, Moyes or Rafa. Moyes compounded his lack of nous by saying we were unlucky. I truly hope he said that with tounge in cheek otherwise he is suggesting that we are all stupid.
Charles King
2   Posted 07/02/2010 at 11:10:11

Report abuse

I confess to concluding Moyes has gone as far as he can at Everton, I think for both his sake and the club's he should move on.

But, after Ferguson and Wenger and perhaps Hodgson, I'm struggling to identify anyone from the Prem who could make a positive difference to our club.

I always thought O'Neill's reputation outweighs his actual ability;

Redknapp as he's aged seems to have improved but there's always the whiff of trouble there,

Ancelloti and Mancini... too early to tell, can't help feeling without the money they'd struggle or would'nt be interested anyway.

Allardyce, Bruce, Pulis, Brown, McCleish, Laws.... all cut of the same Moyes cloth; and Coyle, Zola and Martinez are works in progress.

Any ideas?

David Alexander
3   Posted 07/02/2010 at 20:24:57

Report abuse

I think what he says after the game is irelevent, he is probably saying whatever he thinks will help get the best out of the players against chelsea - looking forward not back.

Personally I think the problem is what he’s saying before games

I suspect that Benitez spends the week before a derby telling his players they must win at all costs. I think Moyes spends the week before a derby telling his players not to panic its just another game etc. its clear what works. I don’t care what we do next time we play them but I want the team to fight tooth and nail for everything.
Jay Harris
4   Posted 07/02/2010 at 21:37:09

Report abuse

Charles King
there’s a very principled manager who has only finshed outside the top 7 once in eight years and hasnt spent much on players.

He’s also won manager of the year 3 times in eight years.

Reckon he’d be a good candidate to replace Moyes.

Oh hang on ............ it is David Moyes.
Steven Flynn
5   Posted 07/02/2010 at 21:50:04

Report abuse

Jay Harris. He has also won fuckall
Charles King
6   Posted 07/02/2010 at 22:09:26

Report abuse

Jay Harris

Don’t dispute your comments re Moyes just feel the hope of this club is being drained not just by the lack of silverware but his teams style of play.
I think Robert Louis Stephenson said:
"To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive."
Neil Steele
7   Posted 08/02/2010 at 02:07:00

Report abuse

He isn’t going anywhere so forget it but i’d take Mark Hughes in a shot. He may have got peoples backs up but the one thing he can do is get a side playing proper football, and that with less money than Moyes as he proved at Blackburn. A winner, a decorated worldclass player in his day and available.

Like I said, no chance it will happen though.

Davie has a pressure free haven, which is probably why he is so comfortable bullshitting us.
Danny Burke
8   Posted 08/02/2010 at 09:16:53

Report abuse

I don't think you can read too much into the post-match interview. It doesnt matter.

Read more into that fact that the players were still locked in the dressing room after Sky Sports went off air. I doubt they were having a nice little chat, do you?
Tony Waring
9   Posted 08/02/2010 at 09:45:23

Report abuse

Spot on Danny Burke. Moyes was NOT available for comment to the pundits on Sky immediately after the game. That says a lot... or at least gets me thinking that he wasn’t passing out champagne and canapes to the players for their efforts.
Colin Potter
10   Posted 08/02/2010 at 10:06:08

Report abuse

Does it matter whether he was bollocking the players or not? It was Moyes who carried on playing 4-5-1 against 10 men. So I think it was him who deserved the biggest bollocking!
Matthew Mackey
11   Posted 08/02/2010 at 10:15:12

Report abuse

It’s no good replacing Moyes unless a new manager has a shed load of money to spend on improving the team.

Whilst the club is broke, David Moyes is our best option.
Tommy Coleman
12   Posted 08/02/2010 at 10:25:50

Report abuse

Moyes’s comments about the game shows that he’s a good loser and, as Johnson says from the The Peep Show, "Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser’.
Ged Dwyer
13   Posted 08/02/2010 at 11:26:21

Report abuse

By sheer accident of injuries we had ended up with a great central defensive partnership of Neill and Heitinga but Moyes didn’t know what he had and broke it up. So we have gone from playing good football from the back to the long ball once again, and the understanding at the back between the defence and goalkeeper has also suffered.

Pienaar was finally played in the centre of midfield against Man City and look how well we played. And we had a proper balanced midfield with two orthodox wide men. Because of one poor half against Birmingham, Moyes changes it around again and the performances have sunk again.

The most important goal for us this season was scored by Vaughan when it set up the win against Burnley. At the time, although playing well, we couldn’t find a win from anywhere. When fit Vaughan will run forever and will always knock a goal in. He was the player to bring on against Liverpool. But Moyes has already relegated him to fourth choice.

Only one person to blame for Saturday and that’s the manager, who if he does the right thing, it’s a rarity.

Marc Williams
14   Posted 08/02/2010 at 13:21:01

Report abuse

Same old, same old from Moyes, no bottle & no fuckin’ idea. The worst redshite side I’ve seen in 30 years, down to 10 men & still he can’t be positive. We all know he won’t change things until 70 mins & guess what, 70 mins & 36 secs on my watch he duly does.

But what was the point in leaving Cahill on if we were going 4-4-2? With NO Coleman or Bily on to try to something new on the flanks, just more pointlessness of a static Capt’ Pip hoofing it to a wall of red.

FUCKING CLUELESS Managment!!!

Craig Walker
15   Posted 08/02/2010 at 14:01:13

Report abuse

Saturday’s performance highlights why Moyes has been a decent manager of Everton but will never be a great one in my opinion.

A decent footballing side would have kept possession, used the extra man and ran Liverpool ragged. Moyes instead resorts to lumping balls through the middle and when he finally tries to change the game, takes off our only forward who can grab a goal and puts on a player who can trap a ball further than I can kick it!

What changed from us having 80% posession when it was 10 v 10 and then losing the plot when we have an extra man? A footballing manager would have urged his players to retain possession and put two players out wide. If you were watching the second half not knowing what had happened earlier, you would never have known we had a man advantage.

The problem with me and I suspect a lot of my fellow supporters is that we get drawn into the hyperbole of the players and the manager. I knew we’d lose when I read the reports from our manager of how we haven’t be closer to them across the park in years. Oh really? They just beat us with a man fewer Dave!

Save the platitudes for after the game when we’ve actually won and are above them in the league please.

You can blame referees, money, Gerrard, whatever. The simple reason we lost on Saturday was that we just weren’t good enough. Again.
Dick Fearon
16   Posted 08/02/2010 at 08:30:51

Report abuse

After a 10 man RS made his/our team look like a load of clueless no hopers, Moyes is on record as saying we were unlucky. One after one, he and his so-called stars big noted themselves and what they were going to do to the other lot didn’t bear thinking about.

The truth of the matter is I cannot recall an RS team that played as poorly as ours did on Saturday. And another thing, I am sick and tired of the whinging on here about how badly we have been treated by fate, the opposition, referees and the media. The derby confirmed that we are as far away from winning a cup as we have been for 20 years.

What is more depressing than Saturdays load of tripe is our manager making excuses for it. Apart from Heitinga, Cahill and Donavon the others deserved to have strips torn off. Why did Moyes attempt to disguise how woeful they were?

1. Was he smoothing the brows of his highly paid and self proclaimed stars.

2. Was he is attempting to bullshit the fans.

3. He was complicit to the dross.

4. Does he truly believes we were ‘unlucky’.

If he really believes that bad luck cost us the game we may as well abandon all hope.

Chris Briddon
17   Posted 08/02/2010 at 14:30:54

Report abuse

You lot are ridiculous. One poor game after 9 unbeaten and suddenly we are terrible again - explain the previous 2 months then!

Davey didn’t say we were unlucky - he said he didn’t think we deserved to lose, which - on the grounds that Liverpool created virtually nothing - was a fair point. He then went on to say that we probably didn’t do enough to win it either. But on balance of play a draw would probably have been fair.

Why he is getting criticised for this I am not sure - which part do you all disagree with.

Did Liverpool dominate the game and create numerous chances to score - NO, the goal they scored was from a corner where our defenders went AWOL - Liverpool actually had to do nothing.

Did we do enough - NO - we passed the ball around alot, but couldn’ break down a team that played with every man behind the ball for long periods, and played it very well.

We didn’t have the imagination or variation to work out a way through. This is down to how the players perform on the pitch - too many over ambitious passes giving possession away more than anything else.

There are so many posts on this game now its ridiculous, yet still we get the - ’we were rubbish’ we are negative’ ’we’ll never win anything’ etc etc etc.

It was one game (admittedly against Liverpool who we all want to beat), and shows nothing particularly - certainly no more than was sown when we went to the Emirates and thoroughly deserved all 3 points, or scored 3 times away at Chelsea, yet people ignore these cos they don’t fit your plan.

You need to discuss extensively games that show we are negative and rubbish cos otherwise you’ll have nothing to moan about.

We had a bad day and missed an opportunity for 3 points, get over it, it happens- forutnately not ver often these days as despite what you lot may think - we are actually quite good!

Add Your Comments

In order to post a comment to the MailBag, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.

Log in now

Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and MailBag submissions across the site.



© ToffeeWeb