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Diniyar Bilyaletdinov and Louis Saha start for Everton for the visit of West Ham.
Everton: Howard, Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Pienaar, Osman, Heitinga, Cahill, Bilyaletdinov, Saha
Subs: Turner, Hibbert, Yakubu, Senderos, Rodwell, Duffy, Wallace
West Ham: Green, Faubert, Da Costa, Upson, Spector, Noble, Parker, Kovac, Behrami, Mido, Cole
Subs: Kurucz, Gabbidon, Ilan, McCarthy, Daprela, Spence, Stanislas
Referee: Howard Webb (S Yorkshire)
Let's see if the live forum is up and running....
Michael Kenrick, Posted 04/04/2010 at 15:34:04
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Two questions: Neville: why?
Rodwell's 82 minute sub: why?
Not that I expect any cogent answers.
Why do we go through phases where we loose concentration at crucial times. Top4 challenge next season.....errr don't think so.
Because we have a manager who will not drop his favourites, no matter how bad they play. He doesn't change and never will. 83 minutes before he realised Osman was absolutely piss poor. The man's pathetic!
I don't mind losing as long as we try; today was pathetic.
No leadership — The players should be ashamed...
And don't blame the manager either; we have players on that pitch with enough experience and on enough money to have sorted it out themselves. Seasoned pros, who just bottled it.
Second half we played with our heads down and were outfought and outplayed by West Ham. That is the most pathetic performance of the season.
I know the are lots of ifs and buts, but a win today would have put us firnly in the picture for Europe, but yet again we have come up short when it really matters.
Howard's fault for first goal, although good save for the pen. Neville not good enough... the whole midfield went missing 2nd half, and 2 strikers who can't be arsed to break out of a jog. The only players who looked interested were Jags and Heitinga
The players should donate this week's wages to charity — I can forgive most things, but lack of effort is unacceptable.
Just when you think w're going in the right direction..
Our midfield were awful today...constantly conceding possession and making unforced errors.....As for the leadership..some of the stuff that Neville did was cringeable - schoolboys errors all over the place..
Fair enough, Webb did miss a clear penalty...but I hardly think we can blame the referee for he inepttude on show.
I know Heitinga's had a couple of reasonale perfromances in midfield...but I fail tyo see what he does in midfield that he couldn't do from centre half...we have potentially one of the best centre half pairings in the league - not being utilised..
It'll probably take an injury to Distin before we see our best defensive pairing.
Absolute shambles today....Lets hope Mikel gets back soon.
Today's result was really really criminal. Especially as it was the perfect opportunity to close the gap on Liverpool. Moyes made some very strange decisions today. I really do wonder sometimes how much he does actually learn from his mistakes. We have been playing some great stuff recently in midfield but today's selection there was bizarre. Why leave out Rodwell who is in blistering form for Bily. And again Heitinga would have been better at CB. I hope all the fucking muppets who were so pleased with Neville on the Coleman thread got the performance they wanted today. He was abysmal. Again!
If we are serious about stepping up and becoming a top 4 team there are certain things that need to be done. The first is drop Neville for good.
Why is Saha not arsed?
Why can't Howard kick the fucking ball?
Why does Moyesie leave subs till too late?
Why do we have no idea or imagination without Mikel?
2. Everton have very little to play for and it appears inspiring the players to beat some teams is proving hard for Moyes.
3. Despite his goal Bily is rubbish.
4. Saha badly needs a goal.
5. Heitinga's distribution was poor today.
6. The team misses Arteta.
He wasn't in their pay, but it would be such a shame for them to go down, wouldn't it?
So fuck our future.
As bad as Collina in my book.
ps Beckham liked Collina - he must be the best.
Neville is at sea (criminal clearing, no link play, poor crossing). What exactly is the use of him? Oh I know... the mindless shite he spews midweek about how the team want to finish the term on a positive note or Osman's really up for it this week. Will you just retire and become a youth coach for crying out loud!
Moyes is dense and will sadly never learn. I wrote a piece a few months back (admittedly a tad long-winded and meandering) called "Moyes is a donkey".
I rest my case.
One is dominating the Championship and one was dominating the bench for 82 minutes.
Why can't Moyes... just be better???
The amount of times I hear from the football 'experts' that injuries apart, Saha is up there with the best... It's high time he put a shift in.
Saha sadly needed a penalty today, enquire of Howard Webb.
Despite his goal Bily is rubbish. Gordon Lee thinking.
I think something else was going on today.
Coleman is dominating the Championship? Really? Is he dominating that league with his one goal?
That comment made me laugh out loud. He's scored one goal and had a couple of decent performances.
How about a little perspective.
Dominating. Talk about over reacting.
A couple of "decent" performances.... That's pretty good considering he has only played a couple of games!
Decent in your books equates to what exactly? Scoring and setting up goals from RB is slightly better than decent.
Then again, perhaps you have just become accustomed to watching Hibbert & Neville. If they are the benchmark of what a right back at EFC should be doing, then Coleman is probably having the time of his life somewhere else.
Pointless blaming Osman (again & again & again) — all his old faults reappearing...
Pointless blaming Bily — IMHO he is tired after a long season and a half...
Pointless blaming Peanuts — for once this season ineffectual and on the fringe.
Pointfull (???) — Moyes's substitutions — how many seasons (apart from Spurs 3 seasons ago) have we seen him make them when we need them? Everyone around me at half time was crying out for Bily or Osman off, Yak on, Cahill in the hole instead of playing so deep he couldn't find himself.
Perspective: 6th next season above Villa and Spurs... wow, way to go. No, time for a change. For the first time in 8 plus years — Davey, it's time to step aside.
We had no width on the right due to the Bily/Neville combination being totally ineffective. Bily is NOT a winger and whilst I believe his best position is in the hole behind the forward(s), I dont think he's got the bottle for the Premier League. He truly ducks out of challenges.
Neville is never going to be a good attacking fullback and Moyes's biggest problem next year is the Coleman/Neville choice.
On the left today Pienaar and Baines were competely sussed out by West Ham — credit to Zola. Their first-half display was okay but they didn't do anything second half - maybe Baines's knock is bad? ... we'll soon find out.
In the middle, I'm not sure what Osman and Cahill were up to. Osman seemed to be playing off Saha rather than Cahill. Heitinga did alright but there was no link-up play, as Arteta gives us and to a lesser extent Rodwell when he's playing well.
Up front, Saha had one of those days when he was ineffective, both West Ham centre halves did a good job on him. When he realises he's had, it he transgresses into Mr Not Interested mode.
I thought Jags and Distin did alright defensively but their distribution was woeful, particularly Jags. Not having a receiving midfield player didn't help. What the hell was Osman up to!?!
Overall, it showed once again when we really need to deliver, we freeze. We can play some of the best football, beating some decent teams... but when we need to scrape a result, we can't: Birmingham (Cup), Lisbon (Cup), today... and I suspect more to come as yet this season.
One last point , where the hell is Anichebe , the lad spends more time in Basil's treatment room. For a young lad so big, he's got a heart like a pussycat.
Neville and Hibbert have played hundreds of games in the Premier League.
Coleman has played a couple of games in the Championship.
How you can rate Coleman so highly is beyond me. In my book he has a lot to prove. Next season Moyes should give him a run in the Premier League. Then we'll see what he's made of.
Maybe then I'll forget the mauling Coleman received from Benfica.
But it's also true that he was absolutely mauled by Benfica.
He was Hibbert-At-The-FA-Cup-Final bad.
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