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18 Points dropped???

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A bit bored on a Bank Holiday Monday... so I've been analyzing where we have dropped or thrown away points over the season.

Yesterday we deserved nothing more than a draw so I'm not going to say it's 2 points dropped. However, I do feel my analysis of the points dropped this season is fair and justified. Others will feel the likes of Liverpool at home and Fulham away might've brought something but my analysis is based on the following:

  • Arsenal (A) — 2-1 up and concede in injury time (2 points dropped);
  • Spurs (A) 2-1 down and Donovan misses an open goal (1 point dropped);
  • Birmingham (A) — 2-0 up and throw away the lead (2 points dropped);
  • Birmingham (H) — Saha's goal disallowed, even though clearly onside and the ref didn't give penalty for clear handball by Carr (2 points dropped);
  • Stoke (H) — (2 points dropped);
  • Wolves (H) — (2 points dropped);
  • Wolves (A) — We leathered them but could not score in a brothel (2 points dropped);
  • Bolton (A) 2-0 down but we get into gear... 2-2 and we still trow it away (1 point dropped);
  • Hull (A) — Come on, it's hull for fuck's sake (3 points dropped).
  • Burnley (A) — missed penalty by Saha (1 point dropped).
For me, that's 18 points thrown away. Yes, I know every club will have their ifs and buts and coulds and shoulds... but I believe my assessment is a fair analysis.

Reasons???

Lack of a clinical finisher (whether we like it or not, we need a Torres). Even with our injury crisis, we should be sitting pretty in 4th now. The squad is absolutely fine but we need a Torres. Hopefully there's a cheap one at the World Cup this summer who we can buy... and hopefully he won't look like a girl.
John Crook, Preston     Posted 05/04/2010 at 12:00:06

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Mike Allison
1   Posted 05/04/2010 at 14:36:19

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"We need a Torres"

Far be it from me to eulogise a Red Shite player who looks like an ugly sister, but there aren't any Torreses (is that the plural?). He's a special player

We're actually rather well off with the Yak and Saha given our budget. What we need is a deeper pool of creative players who can make something happen when we're struggling or others are misfiring.

Arteta's our main man, creator, match winner. Pienaar has something special in his locker, and Bily shows touches of promise if he can learn to get more involved in the game. Everyone else is a worker, or can do a job, and we have one good overlapping full back. We need a constant threat down the right, a Donovan, a Bentley. The next level for us also mean's Cahill's starting XI position should go to an out and out creative player who will pull something out of nothing, something Cahill, for all his qualities, will never do.
Simon Kirwan
2   Posted 05/04/2010 at 14:45:40

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We need a berbatov/bergkamp style striker who can link the play with the midfielders.

Yak just doesnt suit our sytem anymore, back to goal he is useless.
Rob Murphy
3   Posted 05/04/2010 at 15:33:54

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I remember Cahill had a shot that went wide/was saved earlier in the season... so did Osman, Pienaar, Heitinga, Baines, Neville, Fellaini, Donovan, Arteta, Anichebe... Saha had a few shots saved.... Yak shoulda scored a few as well... Howard should've saved a few more shots... but he didn't.... we should've had more penalties, free kicks, corners... hypothetical bullshit!
Mike Elbey
4   Posted 05/04/2010 at 16:19:10

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Whilst I appreciate your point what about the following :-

Wigan H - played shit won with injury time penalty - 2 pts gained
Portsmouth A - played shit, had one shot and scored - 3 pts gained
West Ham A - played shit, somehow managed 2 goals - 3 pts gained
Spurs H - just basically outplayed on the day, they miss a last minute penalty - 1 pt gained
Wigan A - played pretty average in a dour game - last minute winner, 2 pts gained.

The above is 11 points that could be argued we pilfered from teams. The real point is you get the points you deserve at the end of the season. All teams can say they should have won this game or that one and they should have more points but its all irelevant. No matter how we have played we have 50 points from 33 games end of.
Kunal Desai
5   Posted 05/04/2010 at 16:23:01

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Mike Elbey. Spot on. You just summed up what I was about to say.
It's all irrelevant about what we should have got — the bottom line is we haven't been good enough. You can't go to places like Hull and Bolton and concede such soft goals yet expect to be challenging for 4th.
John Daley
6   Posted 05/04/2010 at 16:55:53

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Don't know if having a sulking, injury prone, transexual tart up front would've helped us much this season John. To my mind a bigger problem has been the fact that our defence has been much easier to breach than in recent years. We've conceded 10 goals against Bolton, Hull and West Ham for fucks sake.
Christopher Kelly
7   Posted 05/04/2010 at 17:49:28

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Agreed John. It's because we play a more flowing open, passing game than in the past. That leaves us a little bit more open in the back.

That is problem number one. Problem number two (and this list can go awhile) is the second striker conundrum. Love Cahill but we need a lad who can pump in 12-15 a season from the second striker spot.
Andrew Ellams
8   Posted 05/04/2010 at 18:35:44

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I was thinking about what we had to do for next season and I don't think we need to go out and spend multi millions to improve this team/squad. As far as I can see,all the starting eleven needs is a more adventurous right back and a bit of tweaking, and if as I suspect Seamus Coleman is not quite ready to play that part then that is the only position we need to spend big on. Add to that squad improvement with cover for Baines and a new striker we are on our way. My first team would be

GK-Howard
DF- New RB, Jags, Heitinga, Baines
MF-Rodwell, Fellaini in front of the back four, this gives cover and having the pair of them gives one licence to go forward whilst the other provides defensive cover, especially with our attacking full backs
Pienaar, Arteta, Bily in front of the defensive guys. Creative, interchangeable and will get goals.
ST-Yakubu, we just look more threatening when he is up there.

Subs:
Mucha
Neville
Distin
Osman
Cahill
Saha
New striker

With the like of Yobo, Gosling, Vic and others waiting in the wings, this has all the makings of a great squad and team. Solid at the back, creative coming forward and continuity without too many new faces to gel in.
Dave Owen
9   Posted 05/04/2010 at 18:53:44

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Well said, Andrew.

Bily needs to rest and will be a great player for us next season. When I watched his goal compilations when in Russia on Youtube, he seemed to be playing behind the strikers, and he looked the business to me.

Joe McMahon
10   Posted 05/04/2010 at 19:48:30

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Maybe it would have helped if we don't constantly play with one isolated striker upfront on his own all the bloody time, it's even done at home FFS. I'm just sick of it it's so bloody negative and so David Moyes.
Mike Allison
11   Posted 05/04/2010 at 21:34:37

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Joe we don't play with one isolated striker up front on his own. This misconception has been dealt with in depth a while ago and no-one seems to talk about it anymore. Cahill plays just off a striker and we get runners from midfield in the same way that almost every other team in the world plays. Its a total misunderstanding to think that writing two names up front on the team sheet makes you more attacking, it doesn't.
Steve Jones
12   Posted 05/04/2010 at 22:48:53

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I just cant understand why Moyesie plays Pienaar on the right side like he did second half Sunday. When has he ever created from he the right? He's much more effective with Baines; Osman should have gone right side when Bily went off, not left — we lost 20 minutes of opportunity with Pienaar right.

Just shows we need Donovan back, or a wide right hand player, plus a striker in the summer — that will do it for me.

Roy Coyne
13   Posted 06/04/2010 at 02:04:55

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If, and it's a big if, we find a cheap striker at the World Cup, we will get out-bidded on wages... so if no windfall, no striker.
Anthony Millington
14   Posted 06/04/2010 at 12:06:35

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Spot on mate, we're a joke. If we'd have picked up half the points you've said against crap teams we'd have been right in the mix now. It's beyond me how we beat Man United, Chelsea, Man City etc but can only draw against Wolves twice and Birmingham twice!

Moyes is not totally blameless either, in the derby when Liverpool went down to 10 men Everton should have took the game to them and finished them off, but Moyes' negative tactics ended in us losing!
Øystein Bjaanes Lemvik
15   Posted 06/04/2010 at 12:16:45

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I think the chances of finding a cheap Torres in the WC is... slightly unrealistic. If we are to find a cheap top scorer, we'll have to pick up some unknown entity from Somewherenotintheworldcupistan and wait for him (Torres-lookalike..her?) to show how special he (she) is.

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