Fergie's Blessing!
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Hello,
I just read the paper round on Yahoo and I can't help finding it worrying (even if it is from The Sun) the reports that Fergie would like Moyles to replace him after he retires next year!
Though I know that I'd prefer to stay at Everton I am not so sure that Moyles would be able to turn down the chance to manage Man Utd.
Even if Everton had a great season and qualified for Champions League next year! I still think he'd be off.
Should Everton at least try to have a contingency plan and have our second in command trained up to take over from the possible departure of Moyle the Messiah! Though he couldn't be the messiah if he only does half a job!
Don't really know much about Steve Round but Moyles really wanted him when it came to replacing Alan Irvine.
It just seems that Everton are able to perform where they are through the consistency and stability we currently have with Moyles. We were all over the place before Moyles came and declared Everton the Peoples club, with a lot of managers coming and going and I for one am happy with the level were at and at least being able to be optimistic about the chances of Europe or silverware next season rather than being happy to just stay up!
What are your thoughts?
Martin Clark,
Sydney, Australia Posted 21/04/2010 at 12:23:11
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So next season will be Moyes's last at Everton. I guess it was only a matter of time.
From Eurosport:
Alex Ferguson has given his endorsement to David Moyes as his successor at Manchester United.
Fergie is set to hang up his watch and chewing gum at the end of next season and he is convinced fellow Glaswegian Moyes is the man to provide the continuity needed to ensure United continue to compete for top honours.
Christopher McCullough
Posted 21/04/2010 at 18:43:51
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Hate to be a pedant but it's Moyes not Moyles as he is often referred to radio programs. I'm terrified by this story. Round isn't good enough. The right manager comes along once in a generation.
I hate Man U
Or maybe the fact the Moyesie is totally inept tactically in european competition may make Man Utd go for a more proven top euro manager like Mourinhio, Hiddink etc etc etc.
I may be wrong but I just cant see Man U appointing Moyes when they basically have the pick of the lot.
I agree with Mike there, they'll take a proven winner before they go for Moyes. I think the only way for managers in the 'smaller' clubs in the EPL to get a chance at one of the richer clubs is to go and get success abroad a la McClaren.
Martin, you say the quote was from The Sun. Were there any quotes from Fergie or was it just bollocks made up by one of their hacks?!? The media always love to tout Moyes as Fergie's successor when we win a few games. If we lose our next couplle of games they'll probablly turn their attention to the likes of O'Neill.
Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. If and when Ferguson goes, MUFC will not choose a manager who has never won a major domestic or European trophy and whose experience in the European marketplace is limited. Naturally, they will pursue a major name from one of the top half dozen European clubs or the international management scene. Ferguson may want someone to follow him who will struggle to succeed, but that's human nature. What the board demands is something else. I'd be more worried about Moyes going to Scotland or Celtic.
I think Fergie will have a big say in the choice of his replacement. Fergie knows what he is talking about and he knows Moyes is probably the best pound for pound manager out there, if you consider the small amount of money he has spent and the progression he has made.
.........and I wouldnt mind betting that Moyes will (if it comes to that!) give his endorsement to Captain Pip as his successor.
Ian Fergie will have a say, but I'm guessing not the final say, and I think that Man U will probably go for Mourinho or suchlike especially if Inter win the CL
I'm pretty certain United would go for Mourinho first choice and his next two jobs will be Real Madrid and/or United. The only thing that worries me is that if United are truely broke then maybe they will look at how well Moyes has done on a shoestring budget here at Everton and pursue him and Rodwell too!
Fully agree Ian. Due to everything that SAF has done at Man U he has every right to choose his successor - and he's more than waxed lyrical about Davie over the years. Much as I'd hate for Moyes to go, if you're putting your football head on, Fergie's replacement would be either Moyes or O'Neill.
However, one thing that may work in our favour is the influence of the Glazers. They are the types to go for a "big name" signing (even though they've put the club in severe debt). I reckon they'd love to get Mourinho in, but could they afford him?
As a Toffee who's unfortunately named after a Man U player (blame me da the Stretford Ender!) I want Moyes to stay because we're playing some sublime football at the mo, and I think we've got a real shout at the Champs League next season. However, the more you look at it, Moyes fits the mould as a SAF replacement. And, is Rooney's recent apologetic attitude over his move to Old Trafford paving the way for the ginger one to take over? (There's one for you conspiracy theorists!)
Anyway, here's hoping they go for O'Neill!
I have to admit this has always been a worry for me... SAF has always liked Moyes... and in a way they are similar. On paper Man U are a good side but not the best out there... but SAF gets them playing as champions. Moyes also has that ability to get players playing above themselves. Not so sure all the big name managers have that same ability...
Alex (10) — You're NOT named after a Manure player:
W Robinson won a Champions Medal for the bues in 1919, and you can pick Alex Young or Alex Parker or many other Alex's who wore our shirt.
Now you can go to your grave content knowing that your name came from various parts of our history — not theirs!
Moyes doesn't moan enough or wind the opposition up with nonsensical shite. Moyes never appears ultra-grumpy, his nose isn't alcoholically challenged and he doesn't jump up and down like a demented baboon at referees during the 11 minutes over-time.
Moysie has absolutely nothing in common with the old bastard - can't see it happening myself.
If he did go, however, can you see Joe Royle being asked to come back out of retirement?
And the next Everton manger is... 'drum roll'... Phil Neville...
Relax... A mate of mine used to play for Wrexham with Darren Ferguson. He's still close friends with him and its been an open secret for a while that Mourinho is already lined up to replace his old man.
I would take his word over the papers all day long.
Brendan O'Doherty
Posted 21/04/2010 at 20:27:37
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"Moyle the Messiah!" Dear oh dear...
Who ever is the next manager of Man Utd will see their career fall apart.United are in a slow decline on and off the pitch.Sir Alex will go at just the right time and United will go through two or three managers before things turn around.
I respect David Moyes despite my many reservations about him and would hate to see him take on what really will be a hiding to nothing.
Graeme Hodgkinson
Posted 21/04/2010 at 21:04:52
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WHO THE HELL IS MOYLES ANYWAY?!?!
Round peg, Square hole...............
This is crazy talk. Neville does not have the UEFA coaching credentials to become a Premiership manager and is unlikely to get them so quickly while also playing full time.
United will never replace the most successful manager in their history with a guy who has won fuck all. Also i wouldn't bet on Ferguson retiring any time soon. He'll be doing his pissed up grandad impression for a few years yet and will probably only leave Old Trafford in a bodybag.
I don't what to be more incredulous about: contributors to this site endorsing reading and believing The Sun, or the fact that some people actually think Moyes would get anywhere near the United job..
Wise up.
I thought this website was above discussing tabloid filler articles, especially from the scum, that have zero quotes and zero named sources.
Peter Fearon - I think you will find that both Phil and Gary have their full Uefa coaching licenses.
Moyes will not get the United job, he isn't proven at anything.
It's one thing to get a club going in the right direction with little to no money, think about Preston and Everton and its an entirely different thing to move to a club with huge bucks to spend.
Imagine in his first season he failed to qualify for the Champions League, they'd loose a ton of money. And more importantly he hasn't remotely gained enough experience in Europe. This year we should have won the Europa Cup, especially the form we are now in, but like every time we go into Europe and face a bigger team we get completely hammered, Benfica, Sporting. If I was in charge of Utd id be looking over seas to Hiddink or the special one. I wouldn't touch Moyes with a barge pole, he is way way too much of a risk. It's one thing to manage Everton and a whole different game to manage Utd. He doesn't have the acumen or experience for it. And as for going to Celtic, well that would be a massive step backwards. It's the kind of place you go when your about to retire. Celtic are as skint as we are and in a pointless league and hopeless in europe.
Besides every other season SAF is retiring, where is the evidence he will retire after next season? That old fart has a few years in him yet at Old Trafford.
I for one am in favour of him getting the Man U job. His Radio 1 show is appalling.
Brendan McLaughlin
Posted 21/04/2010 at 22:59:12
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Be an apologist or a detractor but Moyes has a shout at the Manure job. I'm not saying it's a done deal but he is a serious contender.
I think Moyles is a Leeds fan. So I would be suprised to see him take the job.
Wow, the amount of times he was called Moyles in that post was actually quite annoying. There would be every big named manager in the game going for the Man U job though. If the Glazers are still in charge, they will hopefully bring a yank in.
Gerry - ever heard of Alex Stepney?
Ciaron McGlone,
I could not have put it better myself, and I'm not a member
of the Irish mafia.
This was always on the cards. If the time frame we are hearing now is correct then I suppose we better start looking beyond the west end of the M62 and possibly beyond these shores for a replacement.
Steve Round is a good "right hand man" but I doubt he'll ever be a good number 1 man in charge. (ref Colin Harvey scenario after departure of Kendall in '87)
Anyone suggesting Mark Hughes, George Graham, David O'Leary, Terry Venables, Alan Curbishly and all those other managers who are now well beyond their sell by date should be taken outside and shot.
I personally at this time have absolutely no idea who could or indeed would want to come and manage us when the piggy bank is empty.
I thought about stopping reading this when I seen "Moyles" and then I completely stopped reading it when he mentioned The Scum.
Don't read that shit, online or offline, don't even look at it!
And who the fuck is Moyles by the way? It makes me cringe noticing how many times you have referred to Moyes as "Moyles" in your thread.
Pains me to say it but I think SAF will indeed be choosing the next manager. Interested in Ciaran's comment. I think its very likely Moyes will end up there. What makes you so sure they would go against SAF? I do agree that you can't pay any attention to gutterpress like the sun though.
The same thing will happen as when Ferguson arrived at ManU. Whoever takes over will be under the 'guidance' of Ferguson just as he was under the guidance of Busby initially.
They may indeed listen to him James..in fact, I think they'd be silly not too..
The point is, that the suggestion that this is his opinion is unsubstantiated garbage journalism from a paper with a history of simply making shit up...
For what it's worth I also think SAF will have the definitive say in who replaces him; whoever he puts forward it will be a brave man who ignores his advice imo.I've thought recently that if DM does leave then Phil Neville would be a nap with maybe someone like Joe Royle alongside as GM or DOF?
It appears Moyes is of a similar opinion.
"as far as I'm concerned this is a load of nonsense."
Dave,Sir Alex was never under the guidance of Matt Busby. Wilf Mcguinness, Frank O'Farrell, Dave Sexton and Tommy Doherty were. Look what happened to them. David Moyes beware.
Paul Oakes, just to defend my own credibility, Phil was asked about managership in an interview from which this is taken verbatim:
Question: Do you want to become a manager?
Phil Neville: Coaching or managing is my passion. Since I came to Everton I've got really into it. The Boss is at me all the time to get my coaching badges but I still have big playing ambitions left.
I take from that he hasn't gotten them yet. That was four months ago, during which time he has been playing full time.
Why do a whole lot of people think Phil Neville would make a good manager...??
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