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No escape from Tim Cahill

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As an Evertonian who moved to Darwin, Australia, three weeks ago; I’m sorry to report that I now have an over-exposure to Tim Cahill. Let me explain. All the World Cup games are on one TV channel over here (SBS 1), so, from pretty much 7pm onwards every night, all that channel shows is football — at first highlights from the previous day, then the live matches through the night.

It really is the only thing worth watching over here, so that’s how I’ve been spending my evenings. The trouble starts when it comes to the ad breaks. Typical break goes like this:

  • Sony advert — starring Tim Cahill (people following his training regime – so close as to “feel the experience’)
  • Advert for local BBQ centre
  • Optus advert (mobile company) — starring Tim Cahill (and Lucas Neill playing football against alligators and elephants).
  • Advert for local car dealership
  • Sony advert — starring Tim Cahill (playing football on a Playstation, as Tim Cahill of course).
Then back to the TV show. I guarantee that 3 out of the 5 adverts will have Tim Cahill in.

Sometimes they will have Lucas Neill in them. It’s like that all night. But then I go to the supermarket — one of the first things I see is a big stack of Weet-bix (sic) with Tim Cahill on the box and a big cardboard cut out of him. And he’s in magazines everywhere. There is no escape...

Then again it could be a good thing. Okay, so Australia (or the Qantas Socceroos as they are known as) are out, but at least Tim scored. And this advertising seems to suggest that he is their favourite / most marketable player. So Lucas Neill features in the adverts, but has to say “Hi I’m Lucas Neill” (I guess as they don’t recognise him).

I know people have previously moaned that we don’t have any famous players that they layman in the street could name, but perhaps we do, just not if you ask an English person. Hopefully when Everton come over for the pre-season tour they will be able to build upon the popularity of Tim and get more people to the match and start to follow Everton.

And one last thing — at least it isn’t Harry Kewell!
Jip Foster, Darwin, Australia     Posted 23/06/2010 at 23:42:41

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Elgin Joshua
1   Posted 24/06/2010 at 00:10:32

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I second that. I was in Sydney last week and Timmy was everywhere! Large billboards, on tv ads, on print ads. His ad was also on the same page that was lamenting on his dimissal, how ironic. Definetely an overkill.
Alex Kociuba
2   Posted 24/06/2010 at 00:35:40

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Hopefully full crowds for our pre-season tour then.
Steven Pendleton
3   Posted 24/06/2010 at 00:50:22

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can only be a good thing for us.
Lyndon Lloyd
4   Posted 24/06/2010 at 01:29:38

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I'd be grateful it's as someone as admirable as Cahill, to be honest. It could be Wayne Rooney as your Talisman, a man for whom I found it hard to hold contempt even given his acrimonious departure from and lack of loyalty to Everton... until now.

Now, I just see a miserable, brooding brat who clenches his ample jaw through the National Anthem and spits obscenities into the camera when his fans are voicing their displeasure at a truly awful performance.

Contrast with Tim Cahill. Sure, he's no saint on the pitch but he plays to win, often with a smile on his face and overall he's a role model, family man and unapologetic patriot who has again done his country proud.

Brendan O'Doherty
5   Posted 24/06/2010 at 01:50:03

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If he keeps scoring goals like the one tonight, I don't want there to be any escape from Tim Cahill. Absolutely fantastic header.
Matt Traynor
6   Posted 24/06/2010 at 02:33:11

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Impossible to do this, but I'd love to know what the value of brand Cahill in Australia is to Everton.

Given the size of the US market, I am convinced that singing Donovan, even at the oft-mentioned £6M, would pay off commercially over a 4-year contract, notwithstanding many players now have earnings from "image rights" written into their deals.
Russell Buckley
7   Posted 24/06/2010 at 04:32:01

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It's true the man is everywher down here. If he wasn't a toffee, it would start to grind on me. But as he is one of us, I say the more the better.

He is helping to raise the profile of Australian football on the pitch and in the media. If people connect that he plays with Everton, that can only help us.

I've watched Tim score with his feet but I don't remember watching him playing better with his head. Cracking goal this morning.
Peter Bourke
8   Posted 24/06/2010 at 05:15:27

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Quote: "It really is the only thing worth watching over here."

Well, Jip, you can tell by that statement you have only been here for 3 weeks. There's plenty of sport on both pay tv and free to air. Mind you, maybe in Darwin (a country town) you don't get the choice you do in Sydney.

Kirk McArdle
9   Posted 24/06/2010 at 05:30:54

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Asia = Hidetoshi Nakata (even after retirement)
Africa = Drogba & E'too
North America = Donovan
South America = Messi
Europe = Cristiano Ronaldo
Australia = Tiny Tim

Each country/continent has their own sponsorship goldenboy.

Over here in Shanghai there is an advert in which Ronaldo is trying to head the sun as a ball. He then washes his hair with a cooling shampoo and he heads the sun again then turns it to ice!!!
Anything to top up the £180k a week then!!
Jip Foster
10   Posted 24/06/2010 at 07:50:20

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Peter #8 — admittedly I have discovered "Underbelly".
Marc Williams
11   Posted 24/06/2010 at 10:24:00

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Surely it can only be a good thing that Tim is the poster boy in such a vibrant country as Australia as it can't fail to raise our profile. I think it could also pick us up considerable support down there and I'll explain why, so fair play to EFC for going there this summer.

I originally come from a small North Wales town (Harlech) and have been an Evertonian since being taken to my first game in 1977. I never really knew why my Father & his friends were Evertonians as none had any links to Merseyside. Now two of my girls have started coming to games with me, I thought I'd better find out how our links to EFC started.

"Simple," said my Dad, "when I was a kid, Everton had many Welsh players and often would come to North Wales to train, where I and my friends saw them."

Martin Faulkner
12   Posted 24/06/2010 at 11:10:32

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Until our useless marketing department manages to get some kits in the shops, we will never capitalise on Tiny Tim or anyone else for that matter. I live in Sydney and have never seen an Everton shirt for sale in any sport shop here. I mean seriously, we should have had stalls set up in Darling Harbour flogging them to the kids with Cahill pre-printed on them. We have absolutely no exposure over here at all, selling our souls to a promoter for the upcoming friendlies won't exactly help either. Wrong stadium and wrong prices I'm afraid — should've gone to SFS with a much friendlier ticket price.
Dick Fearon
13   Posted 24/06/2010 at 11:01:57

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When I came to Australia, our kind of football was known by the natives as a game that was only played by Wogs, Poofters and Shiellas. That was the title of the late Johnnie Warren's autobiography. He was was Socceroo captain at the 1974 World Cup.

Until his dying day, Johnnie was a dedicated fighter for the rights of Aussie kids to play our game. Blatant opposition came in many forms and from all quarters.

In my small country town I met with a similar response from officialdom and education bosses. Eventually, those opponents were forced to recognise a growing demand from the kids themselves.

From almost total obscurity, our game has become a major player on the Australian sporting scene and Tim Cahill has probably done more than most to bring that about. What is particularly pleasing to me is that when Tim gets a mention you can bet that Everton is also mentioned. I reckon that Tim has a higher profile than any other Australian sportsman.

Steve Carter
14   Posted 24/06/2010 at 12:49:05

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Not super high, Matt (#6), but at least everybody who cares about soccer (that's what it's still called here, despite the exclusive word use appropriators who are trying, in vain, to convert everyone to saying 'football') has now heard about Everton. I never see anyone wearing an Everton top (except myself in the mirror at the gym) — sadly, only glory hunting shitheads in 'big 4' tops. Cahill's profile here is because he's the Socceroos best player, daylight second — and unlike England, country always comes before club in any sport where there's a truely international competition.

Martin (#12), Sports Scene (or whatever it's called) in George St, has or at least had them when I was last there (hearteningly, the only other PL one than MU, Chelsea, Arse and Shite).

David Hallwood
15   Posted 24/06/2010 at 13:01:48

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Martin (#13), do you live in Australia and are you saying that our marketing department isn't over there big time selling Tim Cahill EFC shirts? FFS, to quote Victor Meldrew — I don't believe it!
Kevy Quinn
16   Posted 24/06/2010 at 14:02:56

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Brendan exactly my thoughts!!!

What a header and what a player. One of the best headers I've seen for years. Feel sorry for the Aussies, if Tim wasn't suspended last game they would've had a great chance of going through with his scoring record.

Give me Tim Cahill on every World Cup tv ad break and Television show. Instead we are treated to Hansen thinking he's English and Lawro talking shite about how great England are and how Rooney is world class. Nothing but a bunch of overpaid twats that don't deserve their status as role models.
James Flynn
17   Posted 24/06/2010 at 14:13:57

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We lift the Trophy, we sell the merchandise. Money follows winners. Like a giant magnet in the thumb-tack factory. Plain and simple.

How else does ManU sell stuff like they do. As a result of the millions of tourists who summer in Manchester year after year? Ha. It's cause they're a proven winner.

Put another way, I'd guess the sale of LD's US National Team shirt will spike much more than sale of his Galaxy shirt. Because the US is a winner in the WC and Galaxy is MLS (not something the general US sports population considers Big-time).

We gotta win first. Then the money. Then the "We have to sell to buy" discussion here ebbs. And is replaced with "Who are all these fair-weather fans. I miss the old days" discussions.



Peter Warren
18   Posted 24/06/2010 at 17:06:35

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James - Newcastle shirts are seens all over the world and they win sweet fa (except the championship)
James Flynn
19   Posted 24/06/2010 at 18:45:18

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Peter (18) - First, not sure how you can state that as a provable fact. And what does "seens all over the world" even mean? One here or there? You can't mean in quantity.

Top 4 countries by pop. China, India, US, Indonesia; about 40% the world's pop. Awash in Newcastle jerseys? Come on now. Shearer must still be pulling down some serious income from his cut of his jersey sales.

We talk a lot in here about EFC generating income. I agree with most of what's said as far as money affects developing/retaining/losing talent. As for the EFC's marketing sucks. I'm too new here to say.

But whatever country or sport, a universal truth in generating interest, popularity and income is winning. That comes first.

Yes, the odd Beckham happens. A no more than solid pro becomes a massive Star.

All I'm saying his winning is the absolute in drawing attention. Let's lift the Trophy next season and see what happens.
Fran Mitchell
20   Posted 24/06/2010 at 19:25:02

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It may raise the profile of the club, but people will only start supporting when we've won titles. (Yes, plural... how many foreign Blackburn/Lazio/Deportivo fans do you see?)

Personally, I don't give a shite if Aussies or Yanks support us or not... I would like us to get a bigger profile in Brazil or Argentina, as that could mean attracting Brazilian or Argentinian players, they may not be as rich but they're well better than Aussies or Yanks at playing football.

Also, I despise all these woeful World Cup ads... they're pathetic, EFC player or not. Seeing Tim do it is only embarrassing and takes away furher the feeling that he 'is just like one of us'.
David Hallwood
21   Posted 24/06/2010 at 21:01:27

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Fran Mitchell (#20) I DO give a shite if Australian, and US fans support us, how do you think Man U and the RS have become so rich (pre leveraged buy outs)? By only appealing to supporters within a 5-mile radius of the ground? Get serious!
James Flynn
22   Posted 24/06/2010 at 21:05:22

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David (21) - Agree.

But Fran (20) - also said, "people will only start supporting when we've won titles. (Yes, plural... ". There's truth in that, too.

So, let's get the Trophy for this coming season. It's a start, no?
Fran Mitchell
23   Posted 24/06/2010 at 22:08:59

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David, you why capitalism has lasted so long, becasue the people at the botton actually believe there is the possibility that one day they will be accepted into the elite, become one fo them. So people try and copy the elite opressors, pay their 'respect' to their sucess and wish one day they will join them.

WE WILL NEVER BE PART OF THAT ELITE! Even with 10 Tim Cahills from 10 different 'emerging' markets, WE WILL NEVER BE MAN UTD, LIVERPOOL, REAL MADRID.

Ok were not exactly the under-class of the football class system, more the comfortable middle class, who could still lose everything in a day if things go wrong for long enough.

The point is, no matter how many markets we 'exploit' (as if its a good thing), we will remain as we are. The only way for us to be level is with wholescale revolution of the football system, No 1 being movIng it away from the commercial (neo-liberal capitalist) model that currently holds it.

But anyway I digress, point I was making, I dont give a shit about playing economist, it is not going to effect this club, no matter how popular Donovan, Cahill, ec can prove to be. But if we are to focus on making ourselves popular in a particular country, I'd go for a country that has a recored of developing top talent, not top consumers.
Fran Mitchell
24   Posted 24/06/2010 at 22:20:41

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Man U and Liverpool became famous becasue of those 18 titles, 5 European Cups (for liverpool) and (2/3 for utd)

Arsenal becasue they won titles, played great football.

Chelsea becasue they won titles.

Which clubs do know from Italy, Spain, Holland? Do you often talk of Rimini, Espanyol and Sparta with your friends?

Name a player from Torino, Deportivo etc without Wikipedia.

No, you know of Real Madrid, AC, Ajax, Bayern etc. why do you know of these clubs? Because of a spanky Kelloggs advert featuring Pirlo? Thought not.
Mat Thompson
25   Posted 24/06/2010 at 22:38:09

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Perhaps there's a Market for the infamous arteta burger down under jps! Ps the hangover has only just gone from your leaving do
David Hallwood
26   Posted 25/06/2010 at 00:53:57

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Ahh Fran I see you're one of those football fans that believe football began with the Premier League. Well, sorry to disillusion you but football was alive and kicking over 100 years before that, and to quote the line of the song, if you know your history, you'd know that prior to the Premier League being formed, Everton had won the league more times than Man U, in fact we were 3rd behind the RS and the Arse, and Chelsea had never won the league.

100 years ago it was Huddesfield that was the team to beat; fast forward to the 1950s and the RS was a 2nd div side with a clapped out stadium. The point I'm making is that, like empires, the fortunes of football teams rise and fall and that nothing is forever. Look at Man Utd; they won the league, the European Cup and FA Cup in the 60s with world class players and a charismatic Scottish manager. (Sound familiar?) When he stepped down sometime in the early 1970s, they had a long period in the wilderness, that lasted with the occasional cup win until the 1990s.

You seem to think that the Sky 4 is set in stone and they will always be 1-4 in the league; take it from me, it doesn't work that way.
Jip Foster
27   Posted 25/06/2010 at 04:11:47

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Ah Mat (#25) those lovely Arteta burgers - making me miss being in the UK now! You'll have to come up with a Cahill dish...
Fran Mitchell
28   Posted 25/06/2010 at 10:20:41

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No, David, I don't believe they're set in stone, once Arsenal start to wane, their multi-national support will also.

Man Utd, Liverpool however are lasting brands. If Man U and Liverpool stop being successful (one of them already has), they will maintain their multi-national support.

Look at David Beckham, there have been many better players than him, and even in his old, injury scuppered days he's got more pull than any England player at this World Cup.

My point is not that Everton cannot be successful, far from it, I believe that this season has the potential to be great if we apply ourselves correctly.

My point is that, no matter how many packets of crisps Tim Cahill puts his face on this will have zero impact. We will never touch Man U or Liverpool in the commercial sense (Arsenal and Chelsea are also miles off, and will never catch up).

Football did not start with the Premier League, like the World didnt start with capitalism, but they have seriously affected the way it has developed since its inception.
Steve Pugh
29   Posted 25/06/2010 at 12:22:28

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David, I have to agree with Fran, in the 70s and 80s Merseyside dominated English Football, but the biggest brand worldwide was Man Utd. As Liverpool collapse, their support may wane a little but they will still be more recognisable than us. I think it is down to the amount of European success that these teams have had rather than domestic success.
James Flynn
30   Posted 25/06/2010 at 12:23:12

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Fran (28) - I agree that Cahill selling potato chips in Oz doesn't help EFC financially.

But why, if EFC lifts the Trophy this season, do you not think that will translate financially? Or am I mis-understanding you? Say we challenge for the Trophy the next 4-5 years, winning it a couple of times along the way.

I think that puts us right up there internationally with any EPL club. And as the EPL is so far and away the #1 viewed league on earth, it only follows that EFC's profile will go global just as Man Utd. David (26) made the main point on this, that team fortunes ebb and flow over the years.

You agree we could have a big season coming up. Well, what about adding another 5 years, say thru 2015 of competing for the top slot. Sure, without Mr Deep Pockets coming along, DM might have to keep on with his financial juggling act. But he'd be playing on the Big Stage to the bigger audience, so to speak. It's doable. Happens here in the States all the time in pro sports.

For that matter, aren't Man Utd in the position they are because SAF built them up slowly and continuously over the decades? And whatever financial problems the RS have now (what happens when you let speculators buy your company), current ownership had to take on £60 million in debt when they took over that team.

So it's not like things were all finance roses for RS until the Yanks bought in. They've been fucked for a number of years and now it's showing. If they sink the way it appears they're about to, the LFC "Brand" will sink too.

EFC Up, RS down will revolve around the exact same thing; winning.

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