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The end for Arteta?

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Well, today it has been revealed that Mikel Arteta wishes to return to Spain for the sake of his son, as he has been diagnosed as being partially sighted. This although being silly season seems to warrant a certain amount of acknowledgement as I don't believe it to be just lazy journalism, surely even a journo' wouldn't stoop to using a players child as a reason for wanting a move away?

If this turns out to be true, I have no problem with Arteta returning home, he has been an exemplary servant for the club and he would leave with mine and probably every Evertonians support and best wishes.

What worries me the most is where would it leave Everton? Who could we get to replace him? Would the likes of Peinaar, Fellaini, Bily and Johnny H want to stay (I believe the style of football he promotes within the team is integral to this).
Luke Berry, Woolton Village     Posted 27/06/2010 at 13:08:22

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Tony Parsons
1   Posted 27/06/2010 at 16:05:52

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An article in the Daily Mail claims he wants to return to spain to be closer to family to care for his partially sighted son. If true, and it's a big if, then fair enough, family should come first, he should be allowed to leave and given a warm "Thank you and goodbye".
Brendan O'Doherty
2   Posted 27/06/2010 at 16:36:17

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That's terrible news if it's true. Let's hope it's not.
Tony Parsons
3   Posted 27/06/2010 at 16:42:15

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Also terrible news for his young family, let's not forget!
Brendan O'Doherty
4   Posted 27/06/2010 at 16:47:30

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Yes - terrible news all round Tony.
Ian McDowell
5   Posted 27/06/2010 at 17:07:25

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Terrible, for the family first and foremost, but just our luck. I doubt we could find another Mikel.
Rob Paterson
6   Posted 27/06/2010 at 19:16:30

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There are two options here. Either the story is true or false. Either way it is a story which calls for a response from the official website (the organisers of which have taken the time to report on the England game which a few of us may already have watched for ourselves).

If it is false then someone at the club ought to be lambasting the Daily Mail and its journalist for ever coming up with such a thing. If it is true, then what harm can be done by confirming it now that it is in the public arena?

I feel sure that any Evertonian would want to express their unfailing support for Mikel and his family, even if that meant a heartbreaking departure from the club. This is not a time for the usual 'smoke and mirrors' attitude where the club appears happy that speculation masks the fact that nothing is really happening in the transfer market.

Pat Finegan
7   Posted 27/06/2010 at 19:40:16

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If the story is true, I have lost no respect for Mikel Arteta. He has been a good, loyal Evertonian and I will always view him that way.
Tom Harnick
8   Posted 27/06/2010 at 19:55:00

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I'd be totally gutted if we lost Mikel Arteta but we must all hope primarily that his child is OK. The Mail is a real lying scumbag of a paper so I won't be pressing any alarm bells just yet.
John Crook
9   Posted 27/06/2010 at 20:14:01

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From a selfish point of view, even if Arteta's wife wanted to live in Spain, could he say have every Monday and Tuesday off training, fly to the UK every Tuesday night, return home Saturday night... the club would pick up the Easy Jet bill — it's like a 2½-hour flight to Spain. Surely this would suit all parties????
Alex Kociuba
10   Posted 27/06/2010 at 20:32:31

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Easy Jet? Daniel Amokachi had his own private jet back in '96.
Thor Sørensen
11   Posted 27/06/2010 at 20:45:59

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I'm with John Crook (#9).

Even if the article is correct, surely there must be some way an arrangement can be made to allow Arteta to stay on for another season, at least.
John Meredith
12   Posted 27/06/2010 at 21:42:49

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This is an article in the 'Daily Hate' (Daily Mail) only. Moreover, no jounalist has even put his name to the story.

Might I remind those, the last story published in the 'Daily Hate' without a name attached to the piece was -

"Moyes To Liverpool"
Tony Parsons
13   Posted 27/06/2010 at 22:14:10

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Let's just hope that it doesn't end in Arteta going to Arsenal or Man City. There is no reason to suspect it though. Like Hamann doing one from Newcastle to move "closer to the sea" at Liverpool. If he moves for this reason then the offical site should open up a page where we can all send him best wishes. No bad feelings towards him from me, that's for sure.
Simon Watts
14   Posted 27/06/2010 at 22:19:51

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I think it must be true. If this is proved to be false, then the Daily Mail has gone down to the lowest levels of gutter journalism. To bring someone's child into a story to create a bit of news gossip is quite sick really.

I also don't think that you should leave a club for the reasons. Many thousands of people are partially sighted. It is very unfortunate. I know football is not everything, but I don't see why being back in Spain is of any benefit. If you have had enough and want to put your boots up, and put your family first, that is fair enough. But to play for another Spanish club. I don't understand the logic.

Roberto Birquet
15   Posted 27/06/2010 at 23:45:54

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This is an article in the 'Daily Hate' (Daily Mail) only. Moreover, no jounalist has even put his name to the story.
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I'm afraid it was in the Mirror this morning. and that is a sister paper of the Echo.

Hate to say this but I was thinking as an Evertonian, and praying it's not true or is there not a way round this. Hell I'd have the club buy a couple of houses in Southport and give the grandparents a jobs at the club than have Mikky leave. I was so looking foward to seeing us start a campaign with him and Felli together this season.

Remembering I'm a human. All the best Mikel if this is true. Y, mucho cuidado con su hijo; si te vas, gracias por todo!

Michael Brien
16   Posted 28/06/2010 at 07:40:42

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Simon - we are taking about a one year old child here - a little baby. Consider the emotions of the parents in this - it must be absolutely devastating. The natural reaction would surely t want to be near family as both Mikel and his wife will be in need of a geat deal of support. I would guess that both Mikel Arteta's family and that of his wife are living in Spain.
I hope that this story is not true - mainly for the sake of Mikel and his family. First and foremost Mikel Arteta is a husband and a father.
Liam Reilly
17   Posted 28/06/2010 at 08:18:59

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His family comes first and football and everything else, a distint second.

If Mikel and his wife feels they would have more support back home, then moving is the right thing to do. No decison in my opinion
Karl Jones
18   Posted 28/06/2010 at 08:44:11

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Reading the Echo today..(now apparently a morning paper), it seems as though this is the usual manipulation of the press by other clubs and agents in order to manufacture a transfer.

Dont be surprised to see him go to Arsenal or Man City..Football really is the pits these days.
Brad Eastwood
19   Posted 28/06/2010 at 09:28:05

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If it is true (please god don't let it be), who would we bring in to give us that flair? No one in the current squad can on a regular basis which was showed when he was out.

Riquelme on a free? Aimar? Or go for someone we know little of and put our trust in Moyes? If true and funds were there, I'd love us to go for Veloso of Sporting. He was class against Everton in Europe and thought he was much more threatening than Moutinho.
Gary Mortimer
20   Posted 28/06/2010 at 10:26:33

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If true then this is dreadful news for Miki and his family and also for EFC.

Family must come first, but why oh why did it have to be our best player and talisman????

What did we do in a previous life that the footballing Gods inflict such ill favour towards us? European ban at the height of our powers, injuries to vital team members, career ending injuries to great players, the list goes on.
Gary Mortimer
21   Posted 28/06/2010 at 10:26:33

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If true then this is dreadful news for Miki and his family and also for EFC.

Family must come first, but why oh why did it have to be our best player and talisman????

What did we do in a previous life that the footballing Gods inflict such ill favour towards us? European ban at the height of our powers, injuries to vital team members, career ending injuries to great players, the list goes on.
Colin Potter
22   Posted 28/06/2010 at 10:32:25

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I hope to God it isn't true. But lets face it, he is not irreplaceable.For the £15-20m we should get for him, it's a bit OTT to say we'd be knackered without him.
Thor Sørensen
23   Posted 28/06/2010 at 11:25:59

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We'll never get anywhere near £15-20m for him if he moves to a Spanish club.
I can't see Barcelona or Real Madrid going for him, and no other Spanish club could afford to shell out big money like that. £10m tops!
Tony J Williams
24   Posted 28/06/2010 at 12:44:40

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"Both Moyes and chairman Bill Kenwright refuted that claim last night" & "The health of Gabriel has never been mentioned in these discussions"

Pretty straightforward denial of the story in my eyes.
Peter Rogers
25   Posted 28/06/2010 at 15:05:20

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So far this close season, how many Everton players have been reported as moving away from Goodison Park? Out of all those reported to want a move, Mikel Arteta is my main worry and the one that I think is most likely to happen.

Why is it that, all of a sudden, our players now seem to be fair game? Could it be that, after Lescott, clubs now see us as a selling club as long as the money is large enough and the player can be offered more money in wages than we can afford. If Arteta wants to go back to Spain for the sake of his child, then I will be the first to wish him all the best but if that is not the reason and he wants a move to Arsenal for example, then we have to put our foot down now.

We now have a good squad that, if we can keep together and add one or two, I believe we could challenge for honours this season but one statment from the club might help telling all the vultures and agents who think they can make a few bob out of one or more of our players that no player will be leaving this club this season. So come on BK and DM — tell them all to keep their hands off, they're not for sale, no matter how much, or even if the player sulks, they're not going anywhere.

Brendan O'Doherty
26   Posted 28/06/2010 at 15:49:31

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"So come on BK and DM — tell them all to keep their hands off, they're not for sale, no matter how much, or even if the player sulks, they're not going anywhere."

Peter - we tried that ploy last summer but it didn't work.

Also, you can never say 'no matter how much' because it would be a blatant lie. As we all know, every player has his price.
Dan McKie
27   Posted 28/06/2010 at 17:33:36

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£12 million? For a player coming into his prime age wise, with bags of experience in England, Scotland, France and Spain? Id hope Everton wouldnt even entertain a bid of less than double that! We wouldnt get near replacing him with that kind of cash!
Phil Bellis
28   Posted 28/06/2010 at 17:46:26

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Brendan, for all the disruption it `allegedly' caused Lescott's move was a massive rip-off and I think we got the better of the deal
Peter Rogers
29   Posted 28/06/2010 at 17:48:38

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Brendan my point is we need to make a stand, just think if Arteta goes for 12m Pienaar for 15m and the yak for 8m Fillaine 20m Jags 20m we would have 75m to try and replace them with that would probably buy 2 maybe 3 players of that standard. So my view is that once the window is closed those players would get there head down and stop sulking and get on with it, if not how long would it take for new players to gel and as for "we tried that last year" we never we sold lescott but i do agree i am being very nieve if i think BK would refuse the sort of money some clubs are able to offer (that is not a swipe at BK as it is a buisness to them).
Sean Patton
30   Posted 28/06/2010 at 19:43:55

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If Arteta wants to go back to Spain how about a swap deal with Banega we were after him last season, he must have been keen if we got a work permit for him.

He is a central midfielder 6 years younger than Arteta and Moyes is a fan so it might come off.
Roberto Birquet
31   Posted 28/06/2010 at 19:48:48

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Brendan my point is we need to make a stand, just think if Arteta goes for £12M, Pienaar for £15M, the Yak for £8M, Fellaini for £20M, Jags for £20m... we would have £75m to try and replace them with; that would probably buy 2 maybe 3 players of that standard.
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Are you for real? For those prices, it would be bloody great business, just not so good for team morale.

£75m FFS, not everyone costs the same as Kaka.

If we sold two of those above and got £35 million, we'd be laughing.
Banega, Riquelme, Jo Hart, Donovan. What? £30 million, and two extra players...

Until anything happens, it's not worth fretting about to be honest. And other teams want or are after our players? Just as I'd want it. It's means they are quality.
Peter Warren
32   Posted 28/06/2010 at 20:58:01

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Shitting myself about Arteta. He is pure class and I idolise and can't imagine us without him.
Alan Clarke
33   Posted 28/06/2010 at 21:06:56

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Didn't Andy Van Der Meyde stay at Everton because of his ill child?

At least if Mikky does go we won't have to see him play against us.
Brendan O'Doherty
34   Posted 28/06/2010 at 21:59:48

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Phil - totally agree. It was like taking candy off a baby.

Peter - your point is 'we need to make a stand'. My point is we did make a stand last summer. DM categorically stated that none of our players were for sale on several occasions, yet player power forced his hand in the end. So I don't know what you mean by saying 'we never, we sold Lescott.'

And again at the end of the season just finished, I'm sure that DM again has stated that none of our players are for sale this summer either, so we have taken a stand already. Whether it's adhered to or not is a different matter entirely.

Sean - agree about Banega. Saw a fair bit of him this season when Valencia were on TV, and he looks a class act. But he appears to be settled there now so it's probably wishful thinking.
Chad Schofield
35   Posted 29/06/2010 at 00:54:13

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Simply reiterating points made that I really hope it's not true firstly for his family and secondly for us.

We love you Tater.
Ken Williams
36   Posted 29/06/2010 at 15:08:55

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Would someone like to tell me which day and page number this report appeared in the Daily Mail or Mail on Sunday, as l get these papers and l have not seen it. There is however a report on Mail on Line by an un-named reporter.

Also i believe this appeared in the People, and Sunday Mirror.

I do not consider the Mail to be a hate paper, or perhaps you have all been influenced by others since the Lord Triesman incident.

Also the club have stated that no mention of Artetas child has been mentioned .

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