Where we stand today, I believe if we can keep them, Baines and Fellaini are more likely to give Everton some chance of success next year ? success means getting into the Europa Cup for the 2012-13 season. Baines in my eyes has become the best left back in the league, I can't understand how Capello doesn?t rate him, and on today's market he must be in the £15-20M range. Fellaini is becoming one of the league's best midfield players. When he?s on song he totally dominates the opposition and his partnership with Arteta is going to develop big time. On today?s market he must be in the £25-30M bracket .
Rodwell to me is the potential star of the future but for a number of reasons he won't be our match winner next year. I?m still unsure whether the game's leading lights see him as a centre-half or a defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder... Until his best position is defined, I still see him as a back-up player, particularly at Everton where he won't get in the team in any of those positions just yet. If the press is to be believed, I see the figure of £15M being talked about, and I suppose at his age that?s about the best we?ll get ? though, if and when he really develops, I believe he will become a £30M player.
If I was the manager and was told by Kenwright to find £5M for the banks and whatever is left you can spend, I?d have to let Rodwell go in the summer. I?d be left with possibly £10-12M to spend. We probably need that alone for a potential Premier League striker, which we desperately need if we are to become competitive again.
The £64k question though is ? Will Fellaini stay? Or will he want to fly to get Champions League football next season ? as Pienaar & Torres have just done? I think Moyes might find he hasn?t got the final say on who goes or stays; Fellaini (& his dad) will come knocking at the end of this season and tell him to sell now for £25M ? or he?ll do a Pienaar and we?ll end up with peanuts ? if you know what I mean.
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1 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:28:45
2 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:30:13
3 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:35:31
I still cannot understand how smaller teams can get investors but Everton with all it's history cannot.
Bill wants Everton all to himself, and with it comes it's demise, I am afraid.
4 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:36:34
5 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:47:49
In my opinion, a Saha type that stays fit would do the job. Anichebe and Beckford aren't ever going to be prolific enough we also know they would need to hold the line on their own upfront with Moyes persisting with 4-5-1 I would like a Lakuka or a Daniel Sturridge type ? young forwards with great potential and they do score goals and would be capable of toeing the line on their own as they're big strong and quick.
So come on fellow blues ? who would you like to see be our new striking sensation, a Gwladys Street hero for years to come. COYB!!
6 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:49:14
7 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:47:13
Fellaini will go but not for as much as we think I fear! I don't think other teams rate him as highly as we do.
Sadly, Rodwell will also depart, and this for me will be the greater blow and perhaps even the final straw for me!
Sigh! I hate Mondays again!
8 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:57:41
9 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:58:05
"But he's one of us!!!!"
To answer the question, I would let Jack Rodwell go but suspect Maestro Fellaini will be off as well.
10 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:09:03
11 Posted 21/02/2011 at 14:57:58
The key this summer will be to identify replacements promptly, and to ensure that we get top dollar for those we sell. The club must never forget that Carroll went for £30M, Torres for £50M. So if Man U come sniffing for Jack we play hardball for once and demand £25M up front. If Chelsea are casting glances at Fellaini put a reserve price of £30M. Throw in our World Cup finalist at £10M and we should be able to clear our debts and have a small sum left over. Or is this too simple?
Moyes then has to address the need to bring in some workmanlike replacements from the Championship in time for the close season. This isn't going to get us into the top four or indeed the top eight but may just be the beginning of the recovery, especially if we are more tempting to an investor being debt free.
12 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:03:50
Fellaini is a good player but I doubt we can expect much loyalty from him. He is not that sort of player and I would imagine his dad and agent are already planning a move away. Fellaini doesn't strike me as a player with much love for Everton and he will go where the money and success is.
Baines is probably the only one of the three we can hope to keep. Baines is a quiet family man and is unlikely to be interested in a move to a higher profile club. My guess is Baines won't be motivated by success or money. Rather he will look to stay where his family feels secure and he personally feels loved by his manager and fans.
I think the Rodwell move is more or less done, Fellaini's people are probably working on something now and Moyes will probably persuade Baines to stay.
13 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:12:34
14 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:20:20
15 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:25:29
Do away with the long haul pre-season jaunts to Oz and the States... make sure our contracts people do not drop bollocks like the Gosling fiasco and part with the guys currently out on loan. Perhaps then we can hang on to Felli and Rodwell if they are prepared to stay with us!!
I would unload Yak, Vaughan, Bily and definitely Dutch Schultz and Yobo before I contemplated selling the first team players; this would lessen our wage bill too.
16 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:30:23
Here is the team I would play right now for a few games:
GK: Howard RB: Coleman CB: Jagielka CB: Distin LB: Neville RM: Arteta CM: Rodwell CM: Fellani LM: Baines CF: Saha/Cahill or Saha/Beckford.
17 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:31:51
Disaster would be selling two or more of our jewels.
The money would pay for a very good replacement and very good winger too. I'd use the sales from others (Yobo, Yak, Vaughan, Pienaar) to pay for a quality striker. Surely the reduced wage bill for the second half of this season (£100k a week saved from three first-team players out on loan) and Bellefield sale will be enough to satisfy creditors in the short term.
Bloody hope so!
18 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:37:12
If that is true, he won't leave. I can't see him going to Stoke just for better wages, can you? If Chelsea, Man U, Man C etc want him, it will be big money. Simples.
19 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:38:48
If the question is who is the most likely to want to leave, then, from listening to Fellaini's dad, it would have to be him.
20 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:48:04
21 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:45:26
I for one, wouldn't blame the lad if he wanted CL Football, as he deserves to play at that level and if he left, I would hope that he would receive a positive reception at Goodison on his return.
One thing that must not happen though, is to let his contract remain unsigned going into next season. That would be testament to throwing away a bumper payout.
Rodwell must stay IMO, as he is the ideal replacement in the holding role.
22 Posted 21/02/2011 at 15:47:14
"We play hardball for once" ? Fat chance!
"Right Bill, £15 million - take it or leave it"
"Done, providing you take 4 now and the rest when Rodders lands on Mars."
"That'll do nicely."
23 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:13:56
I don't think he will go to Stoke or the likes, I think he'll go to Spurs, or maybe Chelsea. I just don't think we'll get the mega bucks everyone on here seems to think we will.
I'll make a virtual wager here and now we don't get more than £18m for him! (less if we hold on to him for another year before negotiating another contract.)
24 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:22:36
Any fee for Fellaini would be offset by the amount still outstanding to his previous club. Once we pay that then what is left? £5-6mil?
Any fee for Rodwell would be seen by the board as all profit.
I would get rid of the fringe players ? Heitinga, Bily, Anichibe (if we can find someone stupid enough to have him) ? first.
25 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:30:58
It seems the Yak, Vaughan, Heitinga, Yobo and Mucha will all leave in the summer. Along with a few youth players as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Bily was sold back to Russia as well. We can only wait and see what happens.
26 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:43:33
27 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:57:05
28 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:59:11
29 Posted 21/02/2011 at 16:31:53
And that shite to do with his dad is old news, didn't he say the same things on the eve of the 2009 FA Cup final? It's just old news brought back to the service again cos Felli was having a good spell of form.
And Dick #10, what gives you the impression that Fellaini isn't loyal to Everton and isn't that type of player? Cos to me he does look loyal to us, he gets involved with every goal celebration, he gives his all for us and at the end of the Chelsea game he was one of the first over to celebrate and going around grabbing hold of players and giving hugs, he genuinely looks like he loves life at Everton to me.
And there's talk were going to offer him renewed terms this summer and by all accounts he's happy to extend his stay at the club.
Out of the 3 mentioned in the original thread, I'd sell Rodwell for silly money as Felli and Baines are two of the first names on the team sheet and 2 of our best players, Rodwell as potential and will come good eventually but how good i don't know but I do know that, even with the current crop of players, he's only a back up player.
If we could get anything like £25m or more for him (remember, Carroll went for £10m more so why shouldn't we hold out for as much as possible?!) then I think we should sell definitely, I mean IF we were to get £25m for Rodders then that would be a cracking deal for someone who is literally a bench warmer more often than not!
And remember, if Yobo and Yak's deals are made permanent in the summer as well, I think combined we will get around about £8m for the pair, that would give us £33m and we'd lose 3 players who haven't really made a significant contribution to the team this season anyway so in my eyes wouldn't be such a loss, we'd only be losing a potentially good player in Rodwell but who's to say he'll turn out better than Felli, cos I don't so we might as well keep Felli and offload Rodders for silly money and add ons and a percentage of any future fee his club might sell him for.
And after those sales, Yak, Yobo and Rodwell, I'd sell Heitinga as well for around about £7m and then that would make the coffers a swell £40m. If I was Moyes, I'd demand all that so he could use it to buy players and pay their wages and IMO, that's the least the board could do for him after what he's had to put up with the last few transfer windows!
But then again it's alright us lot coming out with these theories but in reality would such things happen? I'm not so sure... But I do think if Man Utd do come calling for Rodders with a £15m bid in the summer, they will get laughed at and told to up there price... but then they'd try fobbing us off with their fringe players as well like Obertan, Bebe, Gibson or whoever else?
30 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:00:35
The consensus is that we have to sell just to keep the ship afloat.
It would surprise most fans if we didn't have to sell but let's take your position as the true one and we don't have to sell, that doesn't mean that we shouldn't sell.
A decision was made last year to do without a transfer budget and to invest those funds in new contracts for the current squad. Looking at the performances of some senior players and the league position we are in, it would be hard to judge that move a success.
This squad have had their chance and have blown it so move some seniors on and start to rebuild. We need to freshen the squad and I would start by shipping out Arteta, Heitinga, Bily, Anichebe, Osman and Yobo.
31 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:13:45
I suppose we could hold on to him for another year, but his value will drop in that year and, given we need the money now, we might as well sell him if we get the right offer.
It's not all bad though ? we already have a player tailor-made to fill the same role (Rodwell, who will get additional chances to develop with Fellaini gone), and we should pull a very tidy sum for Fellaini. £25m or so sounds about right to me.
32 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:23:04
Oh that's good ? plucky little Everton, keeping up the supply line to the big clubs, eh? I hope we're good enough to let Utd defer half the payment for a year to help them a bit more.
33 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:18:57
"All clubs sell players they want to keep at some time 1 Man Utd were bullied by Madrid regarding C Ronaldo ? the question is the price we will take.
Any fee for Fellaini would be offset by the amount still outstanding to his previous club. Once we pay that then what is left? £5-6M?"
That's nonsense. It is like satying we have paid £12 milion for him, but we haven't really. All clubs pay fees over a period of time. Man U bought Ronney over three years for the initial fee, and a couple more years for the add-ons. It is normal.
If we owe clubs for buying players, let's say we owe £5m Fellaini; that is countered by other clubs owing us for players, say Fulham still owe us for Johnson. Unless you can show (not just hearsay) that Everton owe money for players AND AT THE SAME TIME show that no-one owes us for our sales, then it's a non-issue for me.
We owe clubs; clubs owe us. Your comment sounds like double-counting.
34 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:27:50
35 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:31:26
It's not nonsense ? it's my opinion. You have yours and I have mine.
I will comment that your financial logic would sound familiar to the board.
36 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:34:55
He's said in interviews that he sees himself as a similar player to Rio Ferdinand. Playing at the same club as Rio will obviously make him a better player so he can learn from him. Rio may not be the player he was ? but there is no doubt he was a top class defender in his peak.
Here at Everton he's used all over the team, normally substitute appearances and hasn't really been given a chance to find his feet in the first team. He's also playing under a negative manager in Moyes.
You've seen how Rooney has progressed at United ? he's arguably one of the best strikers in European football. Don't get me wrong, I do hope Jack stays here at Everton. He's a class act.
37 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:50:21
"It's not nonsense ? it's my opinion. You have yours and I have mine."
There are two types of opinion and both can be wrong, can be right. There are those based on some evidence and those not. I don't take the second seriously.
And until someone demonstrates that Everton owe clubs money AND others do not owe Everton, then your opinion does not seem to be based on any evidence.
38 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:50:13
I agree with you that it is likely that he would improve working under Ferguson ? it just that I don't care about him once or if he leaves Goodison.
39 Posted 21/02/2011 at 17:54:35
My opinion is mine to hold. It makes sense to me and that's enough for me.
It's your loss if you don't take it seriously.
40 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:06:13
41 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:08:50
Barmby, Jeffers, Rooney, Pienaar, Lescott. They have all departed and at the time it was depressing.
But the club goes on. And do we miss any of them now?
In fact, apart from Rooney, have any of them gone onto better things? And you could argue Rooney isn't as good as people thought he was gonna be when he left Everton.
Let Rodwell, Fellaini and Baines go. New players will replace them and I'll still support Everton.
42 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:15:03
Cracking win on Saturday, after almost relentless doom & gloom for weeks.
Yet somebody responds with this. Nothing wrong with it, and nothing wrong with Toffeeweb allowing it to be posted. People are entitled to their opinion and are entitled debate hypotheticals. It's far easier to write one of these articles than it is 'What if we win the FA Cup in front of a global audience and attract an investor/buyer that way?' article.
The only person leaving Everton that I would be very disappointed about would be Moyes, and even then, like Dick #40, I'd still carry on supporting the club.
43 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:38:00
44 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:49:06
45 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:51:25
46 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:44:31
Only sell what does not improve our first team, ie Vic, Ossie and Hibbo.
47 Posted 21/02/2011 at 19:54:06
Is it true that Vaughan and Yakubu have gone to get them off the wage bill? That both loans will lead to permanent deals and Moyes has to let them go.
If we are that broke then Rodwell is history.
48 Posted 21/02/2011 at 18:32:29
49 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:24:04
50 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:18:28
Lescott was a regular England starter at Everton, one of the best centre backs in the Premiership and he scored 10 goals a season. His Man City career has been stop/start. He's lost his England place. And he'll probably be shipped out as soon as City find a better player.
At Everton, Rooney was the best player at Euro 2004. He was the brightest young talent in World Football. He was tipped to be the best player in the world.
At Man Utd Rooney has won loads of stuff. He's continued playing for England. But TWO world Cups, no GOALS. And recently his England place has been debated. He's never been the best player in the world and he never will be. So you could argue he's disappointed compared to what people expected when he left Everton.
And Pienaar... too early to judge. But I doubt he'll be as good at Spurs as he was at Everton.
51 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:31:11
Now, I don't think he's even the best player in Manchester.
52 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:36:45
He has never been the player everyone expected.
At 16, 17, 18 he was tipped to be the player of his generation. The best in the world.
But he's never been close to being as good as Messi or Zidane.
TWO WORLD CUPS NO GOALS.
Says it all.
53 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:46:36
54 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:47:54
Where is the afformentioned Robert Earl 25% stakeholder in Everton, we've had Sly Stallone at Everton 4 years ago - what else has he contributed. Let's stop making Kenwright's job easy suggesting a way out, keep the pressure up and get the twat out!
55 Posted 21/02/2011 at 20:55:08
Rooney was castigated for engineering his move, Kenwright conveniently coming out smelling of roses with a deal based on installments + player acquistion - Neville, Howard. Rooney was an asset who appeased the bank manager, he brought in more to Everton than Kenwright ever has and people sit there making Kenwright's job easy suggesting that Rodwell, or Fellaini or Baines ? who should be sold?
56 Posted 21/02/2011 at 21:28:03
You are right ? leaving Everton and going to Madrid is a step down for me.
57 Posted 21/02/2011 at 22:10:31
Say you manage to screw a decent figure for Baines or Fellaini then who replaces them? How much of the funds would Moyes be given and would we more likely see some unknown kid from a European third division signed, never played then disappear into thin air again? Or maybe a secret signing so secret even the manager has forgotten about them?
58 Posted 21/02/2011 at 22:02:48
59 Posted 21/02/2011 at 22:33:38
60 Posted 21/02/2011 at 22:30:40
Moyes also wanted Kyle Walker and Kyle Naughton before Harry decided his best transfer policy was just to see who Moyes wanted and outbid him. Both Walker and Naughton would have been great additions to Everton.
If Everton raised £35 million for Fellaini and Rodwell and gave Moyes £10 million for new players then I'm sure he could find a gem or two.
Leicester's Andy King is building a big reputation for himself and deserves a shot at the Premier League.
Chris Eagles also deserves a shot at the Premier League. And Moyes could even steal some youngsters from the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool. Dani Pacheco for example has a big reputation but now has no chance at winning a place in the Liverpool team, thanks to Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez. Federico Macheda at Man Utd is another idea.
My point is there are plenty of options and it's not the end of the world if players move on from Everton.
61 Posted 21/02/2011 at 22:57:13
Frankly, I'm still absolutely gutted about losing Rooney. However, no offence to him, but he was an uneducated scally and agents dictated to him and just way it goes, I guess.
Rodwell is different... as not world class as Rooney clearly was... but I truly believe he has as much potential and I would be absolutely gutted to see him leave. He is a future Ferdinand but better, potential to be an absolute legend of the game and I mean legend. Totally agree only potential but that potential he undoubtedly has, in my view.
62 Posted 21/02/2011 at 23:49:56
Billy Bullshit will be rubbing his hands at how much he can get for them.
63 Posted 21/02/2011 at 23:35:32
I think everyone is fairly together on Baines staying put. He's scouse and loves it at Goodison. Neither Jack nor Fellaini will be at the club in 5 years, but I think offloading Fellaini now would be the move.
Most players that come from the continent to Everton ARE using the club as a stepping stone, so why delay the inevitable? If we do renew Fellaini's contract, it will be for huge money, and we will be in a worse situation immediately, for the chance of making an extra few million in the long run.
Rodwell, on the other hand, is still relatively cheap on a weekly basis, so we really could hang onto him until he's about 21-22 (2013-ish), by which point we may be in a better position to keep him, or we can get really good money for him.
I don't understand why people lump Heintinga and Bily in the 'old wood' category. They are 26 and 25 respectively (Bily's 26 next week), so they have about 10 years left in their careers. Both have shown lately that they are decent players, and if they want to stay at Everton, I'd be honoured to have them stay as long as they want.
64 Posted 22/02/2011 at 00:25:09
65 Posted 22/02/2011 at 00:40:46
66 Posted 22/02/2011 at 03:08:29
Various reports have suggested that the Everton business model is unsustainable, elequently summarised by the recent pieces by Joe Beardwood and Colin Fitzpatrick. The recent fans Trust highlighted on these pages being a beacon of light in an otherwise bleak and miserable winter, or third transfer window of discontent. It would appear now that the only strategy left following the sell-off of all tangible assets that the next logical step is to start selling off any major assets that exist within the playing staff.
The Wayne Rooney sale has been played out to death ad infinitum since 2004; however, it remains a cautionary tale for anybody questioning the motives of Kenwright and Co concerning Marouane Fellaini or Jack Rodwell. Wayne Rooney has been castigated by many for his perceived disloyalty to Everton in 2004, a sale not for £50 million pounds in Bill Kenwright's words that amounted to not even half that amount but ultimately kept the bailiffs from the door to the Chairman's office on Goodison Road.
Kenwright has a history of selling the family silverware, so expect a Marouane Fellaini or Jack Rodwell to be the next player out of the door. I for one though will not believe the hyperbole trotted out by the Club blaming the player or his father, agent or representatives when Kenwright cashes the cheque to retain his grubby paws on power and appease the paymasters.
Everton is a selling club, fact; how do we as fans begin to change the status quo?
67 Posted 22/02/2011 at 03:13:48
Craig, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you're taking the piss with that statement!
"I don't understand why people lump Heintinga and Bily in the 'old wood' category..... if they want to stay at Everton, I'd be honoured to have them stay as long as they want."
Old wood? More like MDF. Could it be because they've contributed next to nothing between them all season? They'll both be gone in the summer and neither will be missed.
68 Posted 22/02/2011 at 03:55:17
Yobo is out on loan and doing reasonably well. He hasn't contributed this season... conservative estimated value (cev) approx £4 or 5M.
The Yak is out on loan and (regardless of whether we think he was coming back to form) has not been a significant contributor this season... cev £4 or £5M.
James Vaughan has again not contributed much... cev £1M.
Bily, ok has played a reasonable amount BUT isn't a first team regular... cev £4 or 5M.
Big Vic hasn't done a load this season... cev £2M.
Johnny Hettinga HAS played this season but we could probably sell for £4 or 5M and he isn't a first team regular.
So... if we sell that lot, we get approx £19-23M and we haven't lost one first-team regular.
Now this is where Moyes's transfer market skill comes in, he'll have to get a least 1 centre back, 1 midfielder and say 2 strikers for around £14M (let's assume our Bill Kenwright takes £5M towards the debt).
If Moyesie can pick a few gems from either lower leagues, Scandanavia, Africa or South America... maybe even the US, it's possible we don't have to sell Baines, Fella or Rodders...
69 Posted 22/02/2011 at 10:59:30
Have you forgotten how tiny our squad has been for the last 9 years or so? Injury crisis after injury crisis, no fit strikers, Steve Watson up front?
Can someone please explain to me how on earth we can afford to lose either our best defender or our only decent midfielder (accept it) or our one shining beacon of hope for anything other than a Championship future?
If we DO sell one of our core players and do not adequately replace him, I will give up on Everton. Enough is enough.
70 Posted 22/02/2011 at 11:29:38
71 Posted 22/02/2011 at 12:19:19
72 Posted 22/02/2011 at 12:56:03
Wouldn't be so sure he won't be off and I think he probably realises Everton the most money based in this season.
Eric Myles @ 70 ? you're watching a different sport.
73 Posted 22/02/2011 at 13:35:20
Pienaar has only left us for month, and at the moment, he's playing Champions League football and actually getting more games than I thought. That could change obviously but at the moment, the move's been good for him, as I'd much rather Tottenham's position than Everton's at the moment. Everyone would.
Rooney has one bad season. But has the move been bad for him? Of course it hasnt. Last season he was considered one of the best strikers in the world and rightly so, he had a phenomenal season.
I think the more sensible thing would be to sell Rodwell as well as Heitinga, Vaughan and maybe the Yak. Rodwell is gona move eventually unless we suddenly start playing Champions League football, so why not now when he's not playing regularly for us and we desperately need the money?
Heitinga is only our third centre back. We can sell him for a lot and get a cheaper alternative quite easily. Vaughan speaks for himself, and the Yak... I wouldn't be too hasty... he looked good for Leicester and he has full fitness now. See how he looks in pre-season and we might have the old Yak back.
74 Posted 22/02/2011 at 13:33:51
Roberto #16 ? ?and Bellefield sale will be enough to satisfy creditors in the short term.? Haven?t you read the accounts lad? Bellefield has been sold last year and the money already gone and we?re still in debt.
Dick #46 ? ?We need a striker desperately. So the question is why doesn't Moyes bring back Vaughan or Yakubu?? Wages mate, we can?t afford them.
James #71 ? you're watching synchronised swimming I guess.
75 Posted 22/02/2011 at 14:13:06
I was under the impression that players cannot be recalled if a loan fee has been paid to their parent club?
"On current form if someone offered £5m for Fellaini I'd snatch their arm off and laugh all the way to the bank."
Seeing as though he has been one of our best performers for the past few months, I would hate to see how much you think the rest of the squad is worth.
76 Posted 22/02/2011 at 14:58:18
77 Posted 22/02/2011 at 15:03:23
Forget what's gone, it is what the future looks like that will interest buyes or investors ? they couldn't give a damn about Dean and Ball, Harvey & Kendall etc etc . Can Everton become a major brand, a major player in European football? and How much money is that going to take???
78 Posted 22/02/2011 at 15:47:41
"On current form if someone offered £5m for Fellaini I'd snatch their arm off and laugh all the way to the bank."
That comment has to be a wind-up or someone obviously does not watch Everton.
79 Posted 22/02/2011 at 17:00:22
Pay more attention, mate, Fellaini's the one with the big hair.
You're thinking of Hibbert.
80 Posted 22/02/2011 at 18:42:38
Rodwell and Fellaini will both go to the tune of about £40M.
This will provide Moyes with a summer kitty of about £15-20M.
The rest will get swallowed up in paying the debts and keeping Billy Bullshit and his board of cronies in power just a little while longer... until next year, when we do it all again.
81 Posted 22/02/2011 at 19:18:52
Rodders will still have 4 years left on his contract. He will be next seasons bail out !!!!
82 Posted 22/02/2011 at 19:34:37
"[T]here are known knowns; there are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns ? the ones we don't know we don't know."
So, don't you think that Gerry Quinn should get done by the cops for abuse against a defencless cushion whilst being emotionally rollercoasted by Everton on Saturday against Chelsea? You may know that you don't know but you don't know that you may not know.
See, guys, when you think about it, it's so easy.
That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Magic Mushroom Party.
83 Posted 22/02/2011 at 21:05:23
84 Posted 22/02/2011 at 23:02:10
85 Posted 23/02/2011 at 09:01:49
I just don't think the lad is progressing as well as some people think he is. He has done virtually nothing this season.
As for Fella going, if he brings the right price in great, if not he can't go.
Baines going , I just cannot see that, we'd be committing suicide letting him go, besides why would he want to go if he said recently he wants to stay, and signed a new contract, the lad is a true blue not a merc in my eyes
86 Posted 23/02/2011 at 09:04:47
87 Posted 23/02/2011 at 09:11:39
I was elated when they left... wasn't impressed in the slightest with either of them.
88 Posted 23/02/2011 at 10:13:41
Sell to buy is an alternative but few are in the buying market and who sells decent players?
89 Posted 23/02/2011 at 17:14:47
I am of the opinion that Kenwright has 3/4 months to sell the club, before the summer's transfer period, the prospect of new owners and investment then may sway any player who has doubts about the club's ambition to win trophies ? and that's what it's all about if you are a player.
90 Posted 23/02/2011 at 17:36:02
91 Posted 23/02/2011 at 20:57:21
92 Posted 23/02/2011 at 23:20:53
93 Posted 24/02/2011 at 05:29:12
94 Posted 24/02/2011 at 12:26:28
Remember, we are Everton Football Club, the likelihood is we will take £15mill for Rodwell and £15mill for Fellaini. These £20mill+ offers are just pipedreams.
Please don't think I believe they are not worth it, as I think we should be demanding a king's ransom for our gold. Unfortunately, we can't negotiate for toffee and seem happy to grab any cash offer we can.
95 Posted 24/02/2011 at 15:18:58
96 Posted 24/02/2011 at 22:10:23
97 Posted 25/02/2011 at 08:37:09
I have been watching Fellaini, see some of my previous posts of statistics on his 'performance'.
And have you noticed how bad our defence has been since Hibbert has not been in it?
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