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An Open Letter to Bill Kenwright
A response from Everton.

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Below is the response from Everton to my ?Open letter to Bill Kenwright on 13th January 2012.

I have removed the name of the employee who responded as I didn?t think it was fair to publish his name and email address. However, I have made it clear to Everton that I intend posting any and all responses from them as I receive them.

(I don?t want anyone to think that I am publishing confidential correspondence.)

From: xxxxxxxxx(Everton) Sent: 24 January 2012 11:42 To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: FW: Please forward this to Bill Kenwright Dear Mr Flavin,

Thank you for your email on January 14. Your passion as true Evertonian comes through loud and clear.

Mr Kenwright is also a true Evertonian who, like you, wants absolutely what is best for the football club. This football club operates on the basis that every penny we receive from each and every source goes back into our football club. Those revenue sources include: ticket sales, commercial deals, TV money.

We know how hard it currently is with the economic conditions our country is currently going through. We know how our seasonticket holders have been so supportive of us in recent times. We know you have a choice as to whether you decide to renew your seasonticket or not. If you decide to do so, you are helping the Club guarantee one source of income which will help us attempt to remain competitive in a league which is increasingly

From: xxxxxxxxx (Everton) Sent: 24 January 2012 12:37 To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: FW: Please forward this to Bill Kenwright Sorry Mr Flavin, I will continue!

Increasingly?..high-finance league.

We don?t for one second take the support of our 21,000+ seasonticket holders for granted. It is clear that you passionately support the Club you love.

I can assure you that everybody from the Chairman down is doing all we can to provide the manager with funds to strengthen the squad and also find the investor or investors required to take EFC to the next level. We always need to be careful that whoever controls the football club is of the correct calibre ? as we have seen so many football takeovers turn sour.

Fans of clubs such as Portsmouth, Leeds, Birmingham, West Ham, Coventry, Swindon, Preston, Derby, Cardiff, Crystal Palace, Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United can testify to this.

Whatever you decide with regards to your seasonticket renewal for next season, we hope to see you again at Goodison for the rest of this campaign.

Regards, Xxxxxxxxxx

I have sent another email asking for my letter to be sent to Mr Kenwright.
Steven Flavin, Liverpool     Posted 26/01/2012 at 19:49:49

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Ciarán McGlone
128   Posted 26/01/2012 at 23:46:44

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He should've added Everton to that list of clubs who've seen takeovers gone sour.
Nick Toye
133   Posted 27/01/2012 at 00:03:52

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Wow, if I've ever seen a stock reply, that is it.

Aside from the seasonticket instead of season ticket, it's just a load of shit.

Fact is this, we have no money to spend, and we have sold all our best players. That is a fact. It's not due to the current climate, it's due to a bunch of fucking idiots at the club who have absolutely no clue what they are doing, and are taking the fans for granted.
Eric Myles
152   Posted 27/01/2012 at 01:31:06

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Maybe you should make it clear in your response that you are not giving up your season ticket because you can't afford it in these 'economic conditions' but because of the way the Club is mismanaged.
Denver Daniels
168   Posted 27/01/2012 at 03:25:30

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Nice one, Steve. At least you got a response, that's something at least.

So more of the same bullshit, plus some emotional blackmail on the side.

Watch this space..............more like waste of space.

Can't wait for Moyes's patented "we'll go with what we've got" line when no-one else signs before the window closes.

NSNO
Sean Hooley
174   Posted 27/01/2012 at 04:47:08

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Good one, Ste.

Investor / Investors line yet again..... what about Buyer / Buyers?? Sick of the same ole, same ole...

Still don't want to let go of the trainset, FFS!
Jason Lam
182   Posted 27/01/2012 at 07:12:38

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Thanks for sharing Steven. That's a lot of kisses signed from Bob can't you just feel the passion hey
Paul Gladwell
184   Posted 27/01/2012 at 07:25:10

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Its better than the patronising response from our gobshite fans liasion officer I received when I questioned his one man and his dog jibe, especially his arrogant quip about me not passing his email on, great footballer tosser of a personality.
Andy Callan
191   Posted 27/01/2012 at 07:55:11

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You're lucky you got a response; I never do.......
Nick Entwistle
192   Posted 27/01/2012 at 07:53:54

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Which football clubs don't put every penny they receive back into the football club? Mind, agents' fees goes against this in my opinion.
Stephen Kenny
215   Posted 27/01/2012 at 09:29:08

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Copy - Paste - Send. Kettle on.

The joy of templates eh?
Steven Flavin
219   Posted 27/01/2012 at 09:40:06

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Eric Myles @ 152 - You're right, I have responded to him as below:
Hello Paul.

I mean no disrespect to you but, my letter was to Bill Kenwright, not to you.
Please send me a direct email address for him or please forward it to him as requested.
Alternatively, tell me he has received it and doesn?t wish to correspond with me and I will then know where I stand.

Incidentally, I take exception to 2 of your comments from your reply:
1. We know how hard it currently is with the economic conditions our country is currently going through.
My issue has nothing to do with the economy, it has everything to do with the current state of Everton football club.

2. We always need to be careful that whoever controls the football club is of the correct calibre ? as we have seen so many football takeovers turn sour.
Fans of clubs such as Portsmouth, Leeds, Birmingham, West Ham, Coventry, Swindon, Preston, Derby, Cardiff, Crystal Palace, Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United can testify to this.
We are already being run like some of them clubs were in the past and we are heading in the same direction as them, and that was the point of my letter.

Thanks for your reply Paul.
Tommy Coleman
224   Posted 27/01/2012 at 09:55:04

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Ciarán McGlone - Ha ha, well said.
Steve Cotton
231   Posted 27/01/2012 at 10:16:59

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'I can assure you that everybody from the Chairman down is doing all we can to provide the manager with funds to strengthen the squad and also find the investor or investors required to take EFC to the next level'

Does this not confirm that we are looking for investors rather than outright buyers??
Nick Entwistle
234   Posted 27/01/2012 at 10:24:14

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Steve, looks like you've Cotton-ed on!

I'm here all week...
James Marshall
275   Posted 27/01/2012 at 14:01:50

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I'd be happy with that, just look at all those kisses at the end.
Lawrence Stolworthy
286   Posted 27/01/2012 at 14:44:28

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Well, at least you got a reply Steve.

But, it seems that although your letter asked a lot of terrific questions, the response boils down to this:

1. If you renew your season ticket that's great. Well done. If not, then so be it.

2. BK is not trying to sell the club but wants to find some idiot to put more money in so that BK can keep on running it his way.

3. The global economy is causing the problems and preventing us from playing decent football.

4. We don't really care what you think anyway.

Charming isn't it?
Dan Parker
288   Posted 27/01/2012 at 14:44:52

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I'm not sure what sort of response you'd actually expect. If you e-mailed the board of any company, you're unlikely to get a response from the powers that be, they simply don't have the time to respond to every disgruntled individual.

You're entitled to send a mail in which illustrates how we're all disgruntled and it's proactive. I'm just not sure what response they could send that would make you feel happy?
James Flynn
291   Posted 27/01/2012 at 15:04:58

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Ha. Good one McGlone.
Steven Flavin
343   Posted 27/01/2012 at 18:45:46

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I've now received an email asking me not to publish any further communication from Everton without getting permission first.
As they didn't like the idea that I posted it on Toffeeweb.

So I won't post any further communication, that's if I actually get any.
Alan Clarke
358   Posted 27/01/2012 at 19:57:51

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Steven, they're coming for you now for saying you've received another email!

I suppose there's some club employees at least reading this because of your email. In which case, for any club employees reading this, can you tell Kenwright to get out of our club? Can you tell Kenwright to tell Earl and Green to get out too? If Elstone actually reads this, I'm not missing you out, can you get out too.

Cheers.
Dan Parker
359   Posted 27/01/2012 at 20:12:06

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Steven, so they must regularly read and infiltrate this site then? I wonder if they post any comments as fans.

Hello Everton employees, howya diddlin'?
Dan Parker
360   Posted 27/01/2012 at 20:13:13

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You published the communication about not publishing communication, naughty.
John Audsley
362   Posted 27/01/2012 at 22:09:11

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They do post comments, quite a lot of people post once or twice and are never get heard from again.... Maybe Eugene strangles them with cheese wire on his travels...

Hmmmmmmm...
Peter Barry
441   Posted 28/01/2012 at 05:46:03

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James everyone like kisses on the bottom. LOL
Eugene Ruane
445   Posted 28/01/2012 at 06:21:38

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John (362) - cheese wire?

No you're miles away - think more along the lines of Jason Bourne.

I'm more the loads of passports, tight black sweater and Kung Fu-ing the shite out of all hands...type.

And if I don't have time to give them a full martial-arts seeing to and don't have a dead flash gun with a big fat silencer, I usually go with the Bulgarian umbrella (ella...ella..).

Anyway, better get back to the Roulette table, I've got a big stack of chips and there's loads of these almond-eyed East European sorts giving me the come on.

We'll probably go back to my hotel later and they'll try to kill me after I've given them one (on a fur blanket) and when I turn the tables and do them in, I'll say something flash like "Your turn to be exshheeeedingly shhhtiff ladieshh".

(UHH -wakes up in Hamburg hotel room, surrounded by crumpled tissues)

Eric Myles
464   Posted 28/01/2012 at 09:14:18

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"I wonder if they post any comments as fans."

There's more than a few suspects on this site Dan.
Eric Myles
465   Posted 28/01/2012 at 09:18:21

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From your OP Steve,

" However, I have made it clear to Everton that I intend posting any and all responses from them as I receive them (I don?t want anyone to think that I am publishing confidential correspondence.)"


"I've now received an email asking me not to publish any further communication from Everton without getting permission first.
As they didn't like the idea that I posted it on Toffeeweb".

Seems like the same shit as with Bill and the BU interviews.

They should just get stuffed and stop writing condescending bullshit instead of focusing on fixing what's wrong with the Club!
Eric Myles
472   Posted 28/01/2012 at 09:31:48

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Now that we have proof that the 'powers that be' in Goodison monitor this site, here's a message to pass on to Kenwright and his 'friend'.

Let go if you love the Club.

NSNO - Need Some New Owners

Kenwright OUT and take Phil Green and the dummy board members with you.

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