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18 Comments: Interesting quotes from Moyes on goal.com about diving in the game.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/03/04/2945003/everton-boss-david-moyes-calls-for-radical-changes-to-save
?In the last 10 years, we have seen a lot more diving. Players now go over at the slightest brush of contact. For me, it?s one of the worst things of all.
?I I would advocate retrospective action by the FA on diving.
?I say to my players there must no diving in our team. There is no ?but? to it either. I don?t want it.?
Yesterday that shower across the park had everybody's favourite Uruguayan dive and feign an injury to gain a penalty. Amazing how a slight tap to the right shin made Suarez's left leg fly into the air.
I'd be embarrassed if we had to put up with players like that, and with football long ago selling its soul I wouldn't. I'd jack the whole thing in.
It doesn't help either when commentators and pundits defend it with poor use of logic... 'there was contact so definite penalty' or 'he was justified in going down'... bollocks! Cheating is cheating.
It would also help if referees grew a pair and realised they are in charge, not manipulable targets for players rush the moment they disagree with a decision. The rules on approaching referees in rugby union should be brought in for the start of next season.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/georgeriley/2011/04/why_football_should_follow_rug.html
If I were Moyes, I'd voice this retrospective punishment idea more and more as it's one thing all fans, bar the kopites, can agree with. It would certainly make a few clubs need to make up lost points by actually playing football, and not spoiling everyone's fun!
ps: No-one is allowed to mention Limpar and Wimbledon.
Nick Entwistle, Posted 04/03/2012 at 12:34:29
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I admire David Moyes's views on this. I often wish we were tougher but at least we have a coach who won't cheat. Anfield is now the home of cheating.
Then again, it's different when they are our cheats.
One of the biggest con artists in the game is everyone's favourite Antipodean.
Obviously Moyes doesn't send his players out to do it, because I do believe he's above that, and I agree we're not serial cheats, also, some of the antics todays players get up to is a disgrace. But, as I say, just because we're not serial cheats, doesn't mean we're exempt from criticism.
I don't dislike Moyes but by your logic, the RS could say "We know we have had the occasional racism but we are not a team of racists...etc etc"
As Ciarán (344) alluded to, not a game passes by without Cahill trying to con the ref. So I'd be interested (genuinely) to hear Moyes's thoughts on that, since he advocates retrospective punishment for diving.
How on earth is that denegrating (sic) our team?
It's symptomatic of the way the attitudes of the Country and the World have gone in most things not just footie.
Just another grumpy old man, well yeah, doesn't mean i'm all wrong. Who was the Greek geezer in 600BC or when ever who was saying more or less the same thing.
You don't hear of standards and morals rising. What ever the opposite of dumbing down is, well no body even has a phrase for it, thats how often it actually happens.
Too many think they can have 'rights' without any of the responsibilities that need to be exercised to make these rights workable. They know that to all intents that the courts (and the fa, Uefa fifa ) will give them no real punishments.
Rant over.
And for me 'the best little Spaniard' was the worst.
Yeah a good player, decent feller etc, but the amount of times he 'won' 'fouls' on basically nothing, at times used to to (genuinely) make me wince with embarrassment.
If he'd played for someone else, there are loads on here who would have be calling him every diving shit-house going.
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277 Posted 04/03/2012 at 17:26:58
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All players who dive are dirty cheats. Dometimes it is difficult to judge at the time so having retrospective evidence and punishments would be fair, but when has this "Sky era" ever been about being fair.