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Moyes to Chelsea?
67 Comments: I've never been a great fan of David Moyes ? his negative tactics and snail-like football drive me insane!!
Now Andre Villas-Boas has been sacked, while many pundits, fans and peers alike hail Moyes as some sort of genius.... so surely Chelsea will come calling for Moyes?
Two questions:
1. Do you think Chelsea will come looking Moyes?
2. Do you think moyes could handle the pressure of the Chelsea job?
My answers are No to both...
Sean McKenna, Posted 04/03/2012 at 15:36:23
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Bloody hell, Doddy, if Roman`s ever watched us, I`m sure not. But I`d willingly pay for the call!
Pat Nevin says yes to Moyes for either Spurs or Chelsea, and I could see Moyes being approached by Chelsea as there's only so many foreign coaches you can go through.
Not sure why you question him under pressure though. Not as if they're bigger than Everton.... cough splutter...
Not sure why you question him under pressure though. Not as if they're bigger than Everton.... cough splutter...
1. No. But I wish they would.
2. Yes.
2. Yes.
1/ No
2/ Yes
2/ Yes
And who would we end up with who could do a better job than what Moyes has done living off scraps, loan signings and bargains?
Sometimes I wish he would go somewhere else so that I could here the aforementioned's excuses when we have Ian Dowie in charge and playing in the Championship.
Answer: No one
I think he would do quite a respectable job at Chelsea but his teams are never going to play expansive, free flowing football.
Sometimes I wish he would go somewhere else so that I could here the aforementioned's excuses when we have Ian Dowie in charge and playing in the Championship.
Answer: No one
I think he would do quite a respectable job at Chelsea but his teams are never going to play expansive, free flowing football.
I hope they don't. He would have done a better job there than AVB has. Do you think Moyes would have tolerated the egos of Lampard and Terry? He would of either got them on his side or shipped them out. Moyes isn't far away from finding the right formula at Everton. We've shown better consistency recently but with the amount we've invested in the team disappointing away draws like yesterday are going to be expected.
1 At this point in time I hope not
2 Why do you feel he would not manage the pressure. When we had our best squad 2 years ago we could have pushed the top four, if it were not for injuries to our most creative and expensive players. At Chelsea he would have back ups and back ups for the back ups that would be better than what we can afford.
2 Why do you feel he would not manage the pressure. When we had our best squad 2 years ago we could have pushed the top four, if it were not for injuries to our most creative and expensive players. At Chelsea he would have back ups and back ups for the back ups that would be better than what we can afford.
No chance in hell. Moyes to Chelsea? Never in a million years. He wouldn't last a year down there with Roman's demands.
I'd be suprised if they go for Moyes. It wouldn't come as a complete shock though. More than once the media have talked a potential candidate into a job. It appears the jungle drums are sounding out the name of Moyes as I've heard it mentioned by several 'pundits' already.
If he goes we will surely get a big compo and a new man with new ideas. Both will be more than welcome.
1) NO
2) NO
If he goes we will surely get a big compo and a new man with new ideas. Both will be more than welcome.
1) NO
2) NO
The way thimgs are going it is just a matter of time before Moyes gets another job offer, I doubt Abramovic want the sort of ultra defensive manager Moyes is, I would consider it a miracle if Moyes went to Chelsea.
Spurs is no different, they demand more than hold out for a draw football style Moyes stands for.
I am sick and tired of the style Moyes brings to this team, I think we can play a lot better with a more positive manager, at this poi8nt it does not matter who we bring in, we need a change, new blood.
Spurs is no different, they demand more than hold out for a draw football style Moyes stands for.
I am sick and tired of the style Moyes brings to this team, I think we can play a lot better with a more positive manager, at this poi8nt it does not matter who we bring in, we need a change, new blood.
Andrew, Mourinho's teams have never played free flowing football, nor did Benitez's. Still didn't stop them winning champions leagues did it? Italy defended their way to the world cup in 2006. Man City built their league position on defensive solidity and own the FA cup last season before they opened up a itny bit more this season. If winning was synonymous with attacking football then Arsenal would win the league every season but they don't because they can't defend. Man U win it so many times because they are the only team along with City this season who can mix attack and defense.
I don't buy the 'Moyes only knows negative defensive football' line anyway. I haven't conveniently forgotten the period between 2006-2010 were we saw some football and players that were being proclaimed even on here as the best since the 80s. He's lost all his best players so the standard of football has declined again recently. You could have Guardiola here but he isn't going to get Fellaini and Neville playing like Barcelona, no matter how attacking his mindset is. We don't have the players to play free flowing football, when we did we saw it despite some people's best attempts at re-writing history.
I don't buy the 'Moyes only knows negative defensive football' line anyway. I haven't conveniently forgotten the period between 2006-2010 were we saw some football and players that were being proclaimed even on here as the best since the 80s. He's lost all his best players so the standard of football has declined again recently. You could have Guardiola here but he isn't going to get Fellaini and Neville playing like Barcelona, no matter how attacking his mindset is. We don't have the players to play free flowing football, when we did we saw it despite some people's best attempts at re-writing history.
Yes please Chelsea please take Moyes. Let the west end of London see his defensive dross rather than Merseyside.
James,
It's highly unlikely Guardiola would try to get Neville to play like Barcelona. He just wouldn't pick him.
I doubt he'd pick an attacking midfielder because he's good in the air and combative either.
We've got ball playing defenders. One of the top 2 defensive midfielders in the league, two good wingers a decent pair of strikers and a few good young players to complement them.
I'm sure he'd make a bit more out of that than getting a hiding off QPR home and away.
It's highly unlikely Guardiola would try to get Neville to play like Barcelona. He just wouldn't pick him.
I doubt he'd pick an attacking midfielder because he's good in the air and combative either.
We've got ball playing defenders. One of the top 2 defensive midfielders in the league, two good wingers a decent pair of strikers and a few good young players to complement them.
I'm sure he'd make a bit more out of that than getting a hiding off QPR home and away.
No - they'll go for a foreign manager
No - he's being lined up to replace SAF
No - he's being lined up to replace SAF
I think it would be fascinating to see David Moyes at Chelsea. How would he deal with Terry, Cole etc? Who would he buy? I certainly think it's a myth that foreign coaches play more expansive ,sophisticated football. I'd certainly have Moyes ahead of Benitez. If he went to Chelsea I'd love to see him succeed,
You know what ,though, if offered the job he's stubborn enough to turn it down even though the job he wants to finish at Everton is unfinishable
You know what ,though, if offered the job he's stubborn enough to turn it down even though the job he wants to finish at Everton is unfinishable
Stephen, Fellaini, in my opinion, is not one of the two top defensive midfielders in the league, I'm not even sure what position he should play in (Who's the other one out of curiosity). If he was we wouldn't be getting dominated by QPR in midfield. He was atrocious yesterday as shown by his embarassing attempt to run down the line and have a shot that nearly went out the stadium. He has no creativity, pace or urgency about him, he sets the temp for Everton and that is often why we are so dour with his stupid lethargic daisy cutter sideways and backwards balls. Our best games this season have been where we just by-passed the midfield completely like Chelsea and City and all he had to do was get in the way and break stuff up.
Moyes didn't have that many options yesterday. Who could have played attacking mid? OSman and Rodwell obviosuly weren't matchfit and Rodwell deosn't have the agility to play there anyway. Barkley obviously isn't ready or moyes would play him, why would he deny himelf the opportunity to win games, do you really believe its because he's just negative? When we went to 4-4-2 we got even worse and it just showed the amount fo unseen work Cahill does shielding the midfield and also Fellaini's inability to play in a midfield 2 due to his lethargy both in mind and body.
Moyes didn't have that many options yesterday. Who could have played attacking mid? OSman and Rodwell obviosuly weren't matchfit and Rodwell deosn't have the agility to play there anyway. Barkley obviously isn't ready or moyes would play him, why would he deny himelf the opportunity to win games, do you really believe its because he's just negative? When we went to 4-4-2 we got even worse and it just showed the amount fo unseen work Cahill does shielding the midfield and also Fellaini's inability to play in a midfield 2 due to his lethargy both in mind and body.
Anybody considering Moyes as manager should sit through yesterdays game with QPR, as it is typical of the type of paranoid football they will have to get used to.
Bolton, Wolves, Blackburn and probably most Championship sides would have gone there and attacked a more than suspect back four, but not ultra negative Everton....He gets a goalscorer after waiting god knows how long then doesnt pick him as he prefers a more defensive approach.
I'm absolutely baffled by all these so called experts that come out of the woodwork after Everton have a couple of good result following a backs to the wall performance claiming he is a top manager.
He wont last six months at Man utd, Chelsea or Spurs.
Bolton, Wolves, Blackburn and probably most Championship sides would have gone there and attacked a more than suspect back four, but not ultra negative Everton....He gets a goalscorer after waiting god knows how long then doesnt pick him as he prefers a more defensive approach.
I'm absolutely baffled by all these so called experts that come out of the woodwork after Everton have a couple of good result following a backs to the wall performance claiming he is a top manager.
He wont last six months at Man utd, Chelsea or Spurs.
1, No
2. Shorter reign than Clough and his 44 days at Leeds.
There's a piece eulogising Moyes and his approaching 10 yr anniversary in the express:
"In 10 days? time he will have been the boss at Everton for 10 years, joining a select band of managers who achieved the feat with one club in the top flight ? men like Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Brian Clough, Sir Bobby Robson, Bill Shankly and Bill Nicholson."
So poor is the standard of Journalism these days even the mention of those names fails to illicit the obvious - "how?".
2. Shorter reign than Clough and his 44 days at Leeds.
There's a piece eulogising Moyes and his approaching 10 yr anniversary in the express:
"In 10 days? time he will have been the boss at Everton for 10 years, joining a select band of managers who achieved the feat with one club in the top flight ? men like Sir Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, Brian Clough, Sir Bobby Robson, Bill Shankly and Bill Nicholson."
So poor is the standard of Journalism these days even the mention of those names fails to illicit the obvious - "how?".
1. No
2. No, at least not if that pressure involves pandering to and massaging the egos of the "senior" players at Chelsea whose antics have contributed to AVB getting the sack.
2. No, at least not if that pressure involves pandering to and massaging the egos of the "senior" players at Chelsea whose antics have contributed to AVB getting the sack.
Hope its true and he goes. We get compensation and a new manager. May even get a manager who doesn't just defend the point we start with but goes for 3 pts. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, 10 years of the same old dross.
1. No not a cat in hell's chance.
2. No.
2. No.
He won't get the chance as the Russian will go for another foreign coach but I believe with the cash he'd make a great Chelsea manager.
For all those wanting him out, apart from 'anyone else', I've not heard people offering who his replacement would be ? would love to hear??
For all those wanting him out, apart from 'anyone else', I've not heard people offering who his replacement would be ? would love to hear??
No less than SAF was telling us only last week that Moyes would be on the shortlist to take over at Old Traffford - dont whine at me, it was Fergusen who said it -
If Fergusen is right, why would Moyes want to work for Abramovich ? why would anybody who was already earning decent wedge, want to work for Abramovich ?
If Fergusen is right, why would Moyes want to work for Abramovich ? why would anybody who was already earning decent wedge, want to work for Abramovich ?
1. No
2. Never been under pressure as a Premier League manager, so who knows.
2. Never been under pressure as a Premier League manager, so who knows.
James Martin (292) - I would be interested to know who you would rate as a good midfield player, either today or over the last 40 years or so. Fellaini would have been an asset to every Everton team I have known from1966 onwards.
Moyes to Chelsea? I don't bet, but does anyone know how much you could make by betting that he won't be appointed after Abramovich's latest temporary manager. Not too much I guess.
Moyes to Chelsea? I don't bet, but does anyone know how much you could make by betting that he won't be appointed after Abramovich's latest temporary manager. Not too much I guess.
1. Yes
2. Yes
Brian #312 ? Interesting point about pressure.
I can see Chelsea building again, using British players (Sturridge, Gary Cahill etc... throw Barkley, Rodwell into the mix and the idea has potential) I think that's the plan.. so if so, Moyes wouldnt be too far off that radar.
They paid millions in compo to Porto for AVB.. would BK turn down such a pay-off?
2. Yes
Brian #312 ? Interesting point about pressure.
I can see Chelsea building again, using British players (Sturridge, Gary Cahill etc... throw Barkley, Rodwell into the mix and the idea has potential) I think that's the plan.. so if so, Moyes wouldnt be too far off that radar.
They paid millions in compo to Porto for AVB.. would BK turn down such a pay-off?
James 286, excellent post. Can anyone tell where these free flowing teams are, who supposedly win more games than we do??
Nobody outside of the money teams has had anything approaching a successful free flowing approach, it just doesnt exist and is only ever short term. Fine if you can throw money at it....ala Spurs. Spurs were consistently beneath us before Harry R was given money to spend. They were as mediocre as anyone else.
The top division has been full of teams who have tried to open up and failed miserably, Blackpool West ham Sunderland and Bolton all had good periods last season....laughably they were given by some on here as the example for us to follow. They dropped like a stone. How people forget.
Moyes plays good football when he has the team to do so. He's proven he can do well on a low budget, getting the best out of players. I hope he stays until we can spend and so have a proper go at competing with the best.
Nobody outside of the money teams has had anything approaching a successful free flowing approach, it just doesnt exist and is only ever short term. Fine if you can throw money at it....ala Spurs. Spurs were consistently beneath us before Harry R was given money to spend. They were as mediocre as anyone else.
The top division has been full of teams who have tried to open up and failed miserably, Blackpool West ham Sunderland and Bolton all had good periods last season....laughably they were given by some on here as the example for us to follow. They dropped like a stone. How people forget.
Moyes plays good football when he has the team to do so. He's proven he can do well on a low budget, getting the best out of players. I hope he stays until we can spend and so have a proper go at competing with the best.
Abramovich has sacked those in recent years who have all proven themselves and won some silverware whereever they have previously managed. There is no chance he would set his sights on a manager who has won nothing. Again he'll go for someone with proven qualities. Personally I think Jose will come back.
If Moyes were ever to get the Chelsea job, i'd give him six month, such is the pressure at the top clubs, no way would he last.
No to both.
If Moyes were ever to get the Chelsea job, i'd give him six month, such is the pressure at the top clubs, no way would he last.
No to both.
No and Yes
Keith - the odds on Moyes being next permanent manager range anywhere from 10-25/1 depending on the bookie. Betfair aren't running a book, if they were you could lay against the possibility and could assume the odds would lie somewhere between 1/10-20.
So very limited return on the bet but better a short odds winner than a long odds loser, no one went skint on a profit and some would view this as buying money!
I can't see it but much stranger things have happened. To put it into perspective no one has Brendan Rodgers as high as 25-1 so theoretically he's got a better chance according to the bookies.
Keith - the odds on Moyes being next permanent manager range anywhere from 10-25/1 depending on the bookie. Betfair aren't running a book, if they were you could lay against the possibility and could assume the odds would lie somewhere between 1/10-20.
So very limited return on the bet but better a short odds winner than a long odds loser, no one went skint on a profit and some would view this as buying money!
I can't see it but much stranger things have happened. To put it into perspective no one has Brendan Rodgers as high as 25-1 so theoretically he's got a better chance according to the bookies.
Mark, even though I'm classed as anti - Moyes, it wasn't meant as a dig at him.
I just think working under BK, Moyes is virtually pressure free, because I can't imagine BK sets him any unrealistic targets, if any at all, well, apart from maybe just keeping us in the prem.
Its the same with our fans, he gets an easy ride at the game, because we put all our frustrations on Toffeeweb, at Chelsea, things would be different.
I just think working under BK, Moyes is virtually pressure free, because I can't imagine BK sets him any unrealistic targets, if any at all, well, apart from maybe just keeping us in the prem.
Its the same with our fans, he gets an easy ride at the game, because we put all our frustrations on Toffeeweb, at Chelsea, things would be different.
Has anyone else noticed that, for the first time, the season ticket renewal letter doesn't have a message from Dreary saying how much he is looking forward to our support next season?
Does this mean him and the club know he is leaving and we won't have the pleasure of his tactics next season?
Tottenham..... your loss is our gain.
Does this mean him and the club know he is leaving and we won't have the pleasure of his tactics next season?
Tottenham..... your loss is our gain.
He would be great at Chelsea: no kids to tell off, only old injured players... just like Goodison.
I can't believe there are people who would think that Abramovich, one of the richest men in the World, would want a POUNDLAND Manager who has won nothing but manged to get 8 of the all time worst reords in Everton's history in the space of ten years.
Oh, by the way, we still haven't got his magical 40 points yet . We have only scored 27 league goals ? just 7 less than his and Everton's worst ever total. Yes, keep on telling me that he has worked miracles but I am an Moyes Atheist.
I can't believe there are people who would think that Abramovich, one of the richest men in the World, would want a POUNDLAND Manager who has won nothing but manged to get 8 of the all time worst reords in Everton's history in the space of ten years.
Oh, by the way, we still haven't got his magical 40 points yet . We have only scored 27 league goals ? just 7 less than his and Everton's worst ever total. Yes, keep on telling me that he has worked miracles but I am an Moyes Atheist.
James Martin 286
When was the football between 2006 and 2010 that was the best since the 1980's?
I must have missed that 20 minutes.
When was the football between 2006 and 2010 that was the best since the 1980's?
I must have missed that 20 minutes.
Di Matteo is in charge until the end of the season. I reckon Abramovich will move for Mourinho in the summer, it's what the fans are crying out for.
He would never go for Moyes, he wants a manager that employs positive attacking football and that's what Mourinho is now doing with Real if you watch them.
As Barry points out, Moyes joins that elite list of managers by sheer longevity, nothing else.
Watching Spurs briefly before, notice how Redknapp is placing faith in young Livermore in a huge game against United, I'd like to see Moyes do that with Barkley against crap teams like QPR instead of playing a past-it 35-year-old right back.
He would never go for Moyes, he wants a manager that employs positive attacking football and that's what Mourinho is now doing with Real if you watch them.
As Barry points out, Moyes joins that elite list of managers by sheer longevity, nothing else.
Watching Spurs briefly before, notice how Redknapp is placing faith in young Livermore in a huge game against United, I'd like to see Moyes do that with Barkley against crap teams like QPR instead of playing a past-it 35-year-old right back.
Q1-Ha ha ha
Q2-Ha ha ha , infinity and beyond
Q2-Ha ha ha , infinity and beyond
The thing about pressure is when top managers feel the pressure they up the ante... With Moyes, he goes with what he knows best which is defend. The FA Cup Final was an example, our trips to Europe.
The thing is, why Neville in midfield? What does he offer? Can't pass, can't tackle, mind boggling, funny thing is though, Moyes would make Chelsea hard to beat, but he would never win a thing IMO.
The thing is, why Neville in midfield? What does he offer? Can't pass, can't tackle, mind boggling, funny thing is though, Moyes would make Chelsea hard to beat, but he would never win a thing IMO.
No & No
His record in Europe is shocking. Not sure that Osman, Nevville & Cahill would improve their midfield.
His record in Europe is shocking. Not sure that Osman, Nevville & Cahill would improve their midfield.
I for one don't look forward to watching Everton any more... we are dire to watch, unlike the great days of the 80s. We have to take the risk of going backwards to go forwards; we're going nowhere under Moyes. I for one can't wait till he goes.
£65,000 a week.
No pressure.
Job for life ( as long as the owner dosent change )
Job description: Keep us in the league, cup run would keep the punters happy..
Hugely loyal fanbase. Never heard a 'Moyes out chant yet'
OR....
A bit more dosh per week..
Owner who has new manager every 18 months
Job description : Top 4 MUST... Win a cup.
Fanbase.. well until Matthew Harding sorted it out... a little bit 'fickle'.... yesterday singing 'Bring back Mourinho'..
Not the hardest descision in my book.....
No pressure.
Job for life ( as long as the owner dosent change )
Job description: Keep us in the league, cup run would keep the punters happy..
Hugely loyal fanbase. Never heard a 'Moyes out chant yet'
OR....
A bit more dosh per week..
Owner who has new manager every 18 months
Job description : Top 4 MUST... Win a cup.
Fanbase.. well until Matthew Harding sorted it out... a little bit 'fickle'.... yesterday singing 'Bring back Mourinho'..
Not the hardest descision in my book.....
1) I do not believe Moyes will be called for by Chelsea.
2) Handle the pressure. I expect he could. But it would be interesting to see him caress those egos down at Stamford Bridge.
2) Handle the pressure. I expect he could. But it would be interesting to see him caress those egos down at Stamford Bridge.
Ian, if not these years when was it at its best then, or are people really going to argue that one 6th placed finish under Royle or even some of the time under Walter Smith was better in terms of quality? How about when we turned Fiorentina over at home, put 7 past Sunderland, passed Man U and Chelsea off the park in 2010, dismantled Villa in the cup with half a team, doing the double over city. There's too many examples to choose from of comprehensive victories for Everton achieved in a flowing style. At times a few seasons back I used to walk to Goodison with other fans knowing that we were going to win at least 3-0, some no mark team like Sunderland or Hull would be lambs to our slaughter.
Keith 315, where to start, in the contemporary era Arteta was a million miles better than him, I never saw Peter Reid but I think its safe to say that the man who got shortlisted for world player of the year was just a bit better than Fellaini. 1966? I'm sure Fellaini would be waltzing (or a slower version of movement) into the holy trinity. How about a list of Keane, Vieira, Scholes, Makelele and they're just off the top of my head who have played in the prem. Do you honestly think he's been the best Everton midfielder since 1966?
Keith 315, where to start, in the contemporary era Arteta was a million miles better than him, I never saw Peter Reid but I think its safe to say that the man who got shortlisted for world player of the year was just a bit better than Fellaini. 1966? I'm sure Fellaini would be waltzing (or a slower version of movement) into the holy trinity. How about a list of Keane, Vieira, Scholes, Makelele and they're just off the top of my head who have played in the prem. Do you honestly think he's been the best Everton midfielder since 1966?
Mark
It's Moyes 10 year anniversary next Wednesday. I think he'll say he's done his time with us. He doesn't need the money but if he's as ambitious as he says he is I reckon he'd snap their hand off for a shot at the big time.
It's Moyes 10 year anniversary next Wednesday. I think he'll say he's done his time with us. He doesn't need the money but if he's as ambitious as he says he is I reckon he'd snap their hand off for a shot at the big time.
Clubs like Chelsea are their own worst enemies by sacking managers, when they don't achieve, but then place a bigger burden of expectation on the next manager. And I can't see them winning the Premier League next season either.
1. Not a hope
2. No he couldn't, tossers like Fat Frank, Cashley and that racist turd Terry run that place, not Abramovich, they've got three managers sacked now.
2. No he couldn't, tossers like Fat Frank, Cashley and that racist turd Terry run that place, not Abramovich, they've got three managers sacked now.
Gavin is right if Chelsea want to progress they need to get rid of the deadwood like Terry, Cole, Lampard and rebuild. AVB is a top manager and they should have backed him.
I couldn't help laughing out loud at the poor demented blinkered fools who seem to think Dour Defensive Davey ? who has Everton playing such consistent DROSS ? has a hope in hell of being approached to be the next Chelsea manager... or indeed as manager of any of the top four.
This comment by Chelsea on AVB could be equally directly at Dour Davey here too:?
"Unfortunately the results and performances of the team have not been good enough and were showing no signs of improving at a key time in the season. "
"Unfortunately the results and performances of the team have not been good enough and were showing no signs of improving at a key time in the season. "
After reading Neil Ashtons piece in The Daily Mail, David Moyes would have to be out of his mind to take the job anyway. It sounds like a horrible place to work and totally the opposite kind of atmosphere Moyes always looks for.
Peter Barry, we are unbeaten in 8 games. How could that comment be equally directed at Dour Davey?
You talk some nonsense at times.
Peter Barry, we are unbeaten in 8 games. How could that comment be equally directed at Dour Davey?
You talk some nonsense at times.
I think Chelsea would have welcomed some dour defensive tactics in the last 12 games.....winning 3
Moyes doesn't fit the abramovich mould , simples
"Peter Barry, we are unbeaten in 8 games. How could that comment be equally directed at Dour Davey?" ? Writes Jamie Barlow #405
Yes, unbeaten in 8 games but we have now DROPPED to 13th in the league. If Dour Davey brings us more success like this we will be relegated.
Davey Moyes for Chelsea- Ha ha ha ha ha!
Davey Moyes for Man U - Ho ho ho ho ho!
Davey is so wonderful that no one comes calling.
Yes, unbeaten in 8 games but we have now DROPPED to 13th in the league. If Dour Davey brings us more success like this we will be relegated.
Davey Moyes for Chelsea- Ha ha ha ha ha!
Davey Moyes for Man U - Ho ho ho ho ho!
Davey is so wonderful that no one comes calling.
1) No chance.
2) No chance.
Hope they do come-a-poachin' though and take him and pay us a big sackful of rubles in 'compo'.
Oh how I'd laugh at the howls 6 weeks later from their glory-hunting Sky-nobs, when there's revolt amongst 'Lamps' 'JT' and..er..'Droggsy' (?) who are all on the bench for not tracking back or..um..something.
"Ar can't bel-I'VE it! Wiv bin loid to boi Skoy Spotes abaaaaaaht vis caaant Moyes. Eeeez nafink speshoo - jast a faaaackin' defensive-moinded presbyterian innit"
Maybe the scruff-bag Russian will jip them, buy us, send Bill to Siberia, get the 'special one' back to take over (he always seemed to like us) do up Goodison, three years down the line - CL.
COME ON ROMAN YOU HALF-ASLEEP LOOKING TRAMP, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!
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2) No chance.
Hope they do come-a-poachin' though and take him and pay us a big sackful of rubles in 'compo'.
Oh how I'd laugh at the howls 6 weeks later from their glory-hunting Sky-nobs, when there's revolt amongst 'Lamps' 'JT' and..er..'Droggsy' (?) who are all on the bench for not tracking back or..um..something.
"Ar can't bel-I'VE it! Wiv bin loid to boi Skoy Spotes abaaaaaaht vis caaant Moyes. Eeeez nafink speshoo - jast a faaaackin' defensive-moinded presbyterian innit"
Maybe the scruff-bag Russian will jip them, buy us, send Bill to Siberia, get the 'special one' back to take over (he always seemed to like us) do up Goodison, three years down the line - CL.
COME ON ROMAN YOU HALF-ASLEEP LOOKING TRAMP, YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!
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James,
Scott Parker is the other one. The reason we were dominated was they had mobile, clever players and Neville can?t get round the pitch, also, he can?t take the ball off a full back so we have to hoof it up the pitch or get hurried and waste it. Fellaini was, as usual, dominant in the air and got his tackles in, lots of them.
It weren?t his best game with the ball but since when did a defensive midfielder run down the line, beat men and shoot?
In our best games you mention he completely nullified the oppo?s midfield and was arguably our best player. Those games we weren?t looking for him to do anything but win the ball and give it to our better ball players. This is the role he needs to play every week.
He?s not a creative player, that role is usually filled by your No.10 in any formation with one striker, and we shouldn?t be looking to him to create. The fact is we have carried Cahill all season and others have to alter their natural game to make up for his shortcomings, which is why Fellaini has been playing as a box to box player.
Presumably Moyes is picking Cahill to ?shield? our midfield? Can you name me another manager who will consistently pick an attacking midfielder/deep striker purely to shore up a midfield? It shows he worries about the opposition instead of letting them worry about us.
I wouldn?t waste my time guessing at Moyes thoughts. I remember when Benitez left the R/S one or two players commented that he saw an away draw as a good result regardless of who they played. Perhaps Moyes also feels this way? His subs in the game suggest he wanted to win but the team he sent out wasn?t the best one to win the game so who knows?
All the very best managers have a ruthless streak and if Cahill and Neville were playing for Ferguson or Mourinho they would have been out the side ages ago. We?ve got the players to replace them. In fact they contribute so little that it?s difficult to say who isn?t a bnetter option.
Scott Parker is the other one. The reason we were dominated was they had mobile, clever players and Neville can?t get round the pitch, also, he can?t take the ball off a full back so we have to hoof it up the pitch or get hurried and waste it. Fellaini was, as usual, dominant in the air and got his tackles in, lots of them.
It weren?t his best game with the ball but since when did a defensive midfielder run down the line, beat men and shoot?
In our best games you mention he completely nullified the oppo?s midfield and was arguably our best player. Those games we weren?t looking for him to do anything but win the ball and give it to our better ball players. This is the role he needs to play every week.
He?s not a creative player, that role is usually filled by your No.10 in any formation with one striker, and we shouldn?t be looking to him to create. The fact is we have carried Cahill all season and others have to alter their natural game to make up for his shortcomings, which is why Fellaini has been playing as a box to box player.
Presumably Moyes is picking Cahill to ?shield? our midfield? Can you name me another manager who will consistently pick an attacking midfielder/deep striker purely to shore up a midfield? It shows he worries about the opposition instead of letting them worry about us.
I wouldn?t waste my time guessing at Moyes thoughts. I remember when Benitez left the R/S one or two players commented that he saw an away draw as a good result regardless of who they played. Perhaps Moyes also feels this way? His subs in the game suggest he wanted to win but the team he sent out wasn?t the best one to win the game so who knows?
All the very best managers have a ruthless streak and if Cahill and Neville were playing for Ferguson or Mourinho they would have been out the side ages ago. We?ve got the players to replace them. In fact they contribute so little that it?s difficult to say who isn?t a bnetter option.
Ha ha Eugene , chuckled there
There will be plenty of good jobs coming up soon: Chelsea, Spurs England... Moyes wont get any of them even though he gets lots of praise off all these TV clowns and press,
But we know better ? our football is crap, he should have gone last year but, if he can keep Everton in 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th, our chairman is over the moon... but I for one am pissed off watching dull negative football.
Moyes for Chelsea, my arse,
But we know better ? our football is crap, he should have gone last year but, if he can keep Everton in 9th, 10th, 11th or 12th, our chairman is over the moon... but I for one am pissed off watching dull negative football.
Moyes for Chelsea, my arse,
Would Moyes even want the Chelsea job? Whatever you think of his managerial/coaching ability, most would agree (I think) that he's an honourable man.
I think because of that he would prefer a job with a club that shows him respect and vice versa. Has Chelsea shown any of their managers the slightest bit of respect?
Honestly, I don't think Chelsea will come calling, but even if they did I could see Moyes turning them down
I think because of that he would prefer a job with a club that shows him respect and vice versa. Has Chelsea shown any of their managers the slightest bit of respect?
Honestly, I don't think Chelsea will come calling, but even if they did I could see Moyes turning them down
Moyes will never go to Chelsea because of the way they handle transfers.
Moyes wants guaranteed 100% control and that will never be sanctioned by Abramovich.
Remember when "he" bought Schevchenko for Mourinho and recently Torres for Ancelotti.
Moyes wouldn't put up with any funny business.
Moyes wants guaranteed 100% control and that will never be sanctioned by Abramovich.
Remember when "he" bought Schevchenko for Mourinho and recently Torres for Ancelotti.
Moyes wouldn't put up with any funny business.
I really can't see Moyes at Chelsea but you never know, Moyes could be just what Roman is looking for.
A big money bid for Moyes would really test Kenwright's resolve.
So get ready all you Moyes haters out there who want "better things" for our glorious club. It might not happen this week but it will happen one day and soon I think.
A big money bid for Moyes would really test Kenwright's resolve.
So get ready all you Moyes haters out there who want "better things" for our glorious club. It might not happen this week but it will happen one day and soon I think.
I honestly believe that Chelsea have dug themselves such a massive hole that they are no longer an attractive prospect for anybody except a Mourinho or a Benitez who are in it purely to see their own faces on the telly.
There are a couple of Chelsea fans at work that genuinely believe that Roman may be ready to throw his teddy out of the cot permanently and go off and find himself a new toy.
There are a couple of Chelsea fans at work that genuinely believe that Roman may be ready to throw his teddy out of the cot permanently and go off and find himself a new toy.
it would be great move for David Moyes. He can ask for a 5-year contract and £100k a week and that would be small change to the Russian oligarch.
By the January window, when the Chelsea faithful are falling asleep at the boring dross being served up, he will be dumped for Frank Lampard and will gracefully retire from football and count his pennies in the bank.
Meanwhile a Kevin Sheedy/Phil Neville management team sees Everton playing a more attractive brand of football and holding their own in the top 6 despite lack of investment. The donkeys and old brigade have been put out to pasture with Cahill teaming up with Moyes at Chelsea for one last hurrah and a hefty wedge.
Well, I can dream... can't I?
By the January window, when the Chelsea faithful are falling asleep at the boring dross being served up, he will be dumped for Frank Lampard and will gracefully retire from football and count his pennies in the bank.
Meanwhile a Kevin Sheedy/Phil Neville management team sees Everton playing a more attractive brand of football and holding their own in the top 6 despite lack of investment. The donkeys and old brigade have been put out to pasture with Cahill teaming up with Moyes at Chelsea for one last hurrah and a hefty wedge.
Well, I can dream... can't I?
I don't think there's a chance that Chelsea would come looking for Moyes but I do believe he'd do a good job. He has so little European experience but then what good has that done the managers they've been through so far/ As stated above most managers who've done well in Europe have been negative. I'd like to see him get the chance, must be hard as a great manager to be managing a small club :-)
Andrew Flanagan #279, good to see you sometimes want a change of manager just to spite some of your fellow fans. I might disagree with the likes of Wilson, Dodd, Martin et al, but at least I know that they base their opinion based on what they think is good for the club.
Since reading this article, I've gone over in my head some of the type that Moyes would spit if he was employed by Chelsea.
"I come from a club that wears the same colour as Chelsea. The majority of people you meet on the tube are Chelsea fans."
"As long as I'm employed here, Lamps and Drogba have a job."
Or this classic;
"Top four is a realistic goal, and Chelsea have been in and around there a lot lately, as far as I'm being told."
Since reading this article, I've gone over in my head some of the type that Moyes would spit if he was employed by Chelsea.
"I come from a club that wears the same colour as Chelsea. The majority of people you meet on the tube are Chelsea fans."
"As long as I'm employed here, Lamps and Drogba have a job."
Or this classic;
"Top four is a realistic goal, and Chelsea have been in and around there a lot lately, as far as I'm being told."
Don't see any chance of Moyes going to Chelsea. The one thing that Abramovich craves is a champions league trophy and Moyes' record in that competition is very short and very unhappy.
If by some miracle he did go i think he would do a solid job. No doubt they would be in the top 4. He is similar to Mourinho in some ways in organising players, not taking crap and grinding out results.
If by some miracle he did go i think he would do a solid job. No doubt they would be in the top 4. He is similar to Mourinho in some ways in organising players, not taking crap and grinding out results.
Sam,
Moyes and Mourinho are miles apart. Jose makes men feel ten feet tall, Moyes makes them feel 10 inches, and not where it matters.
Moyes and Mourinho are miles apart. Jose makes men feel ten feet tall, Moyes makes them feel 10 inches, and not where it matters.
Stephen, i'm not saying that they are the came calibre of manager but simply that they have similar traits.
But while we're on the point i think Moyes is a better man manager than you give him credit for. Maybe not of the Redknapp, Oneill level but i don't see too many current Everton players complaining.
But while we're on the point i think Moyes is a better man manager than you give him credit for. Maybe not of the Redknapp, Oneill level but i don't see too many current Everton players complaining.
Peter, you're wrong. We are unbeaten in 8. 6 in the league where we have picked up 10 points and 2 in the cup. If Dour Davey brings us more success like this, we won't be relegated. We'll finish the season on about 54 points and be going to Wembley, twice.
Like I said, talking nonsense.
Like I said, talking nonsense.
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