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Moyes among world football's top earners

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A Portugese football finance website (http://www.futebolfinance.com/os-30-maiores-salarios-de-treinadores-de-futebol-2012) recently published a list showing the top earning managers in the game. Our David Moyes was listed at Number 12.

I do admire the work that Moyes has done and is doing, conscious of the fact that he's operating on one of the more conservative budgets in the Premier League. But reading that Moyes clocks in at Number 12 on an apparent worldwide list of manager salaries does make me question ?If we are so quick to forgive Everton's current level of achievement on the basis of finance (specifically relating to transfer budget and player salaries), shouldn't we wonder if Moyes is really worth £3 million per annum??

Looking down the list (at least up to #30 which was the maximum I could find) I found a whole bunch of names which I thought could easily replace Moyes in terms of coaching/mangerial ability. Of course, a big question is would they want to come knowing they would have to operate within a shoestring budget. Nevertheless, it does make me wonder:

How did Everton FC decide that paying Moyes £3 million per year is justifiable ? I mean if they had any idea of what other managers were earning, would they have considered replacing Moyes with someone else?

And OK, so assuming Everton FC did not know back then, would they now consider taking a risk on someone else commanding a lower pay?

Marcus Choo, Thailand     Posted 10/03/2012 at 13:06:06

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James Martin
574   Posted 10/03/2012 at 14:58:57

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We're a high ranking team in the top league in the world. Look at the managers above him, europe's best clubs and then all the teams that traditionally finish above us. He's on a par with Hughes and O' Neill, this is the oging rate for a premer leahe manager for a club of our status. If you pay the salary of a second rate manager then that's what you'll end up with.
Marcus Choo
575   Posted 10/03/2012 at 15:13:59

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But James (574), by saying 2nd rate managers, do you mean anyone earning less than Moyes on the list? I look at names like Ottmar Hitzfeld and Vicente del Bosque and they certainly don't fit into my category of 2nd rate...
Andy Peers
580   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:07:32

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He will go down the list when he takes his 20% cut in pay on his new contract. His salary will be 2.4 million a year, unless he is not serious about everyone taking a 20% cut in pay to be fair to the fans. I hope he takes the cut in pay for several reasons. 1- That he hasn,t turned into a bullshitter like Kenwright. 2- He realizes that not winning any silverware is not worth 3 million a year.
Phil Walling
582   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:30:33

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He earns that fortune for covering Kenwright`s arse!
Every interview he`s had this week included his `tribute to the best chairman in the land`.
He even talked of `Blood Brothers`this morning.
Of course,he`s leaned from the master-absolute fecking bullshit !
James Martin
583   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:37:56

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Yes but look at in comparison to other premier league managers, all the ones regarded as better than him are paid more, his peers like O neill are paid the same. If MOyes did go (hopefullly not) how will we get anyone better by offering a second rate salary?
Marcus Choo
586   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:41:40

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I was thinking more along the lines of if we offered Moyes salary (i.e.not reducing the salary) to someone lower down the list, wouldn't they find that an incentive (higher pay) to come?
Eugene Ruane
590   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:53:43

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And as the piece below the list says (nb: I used an online translator) ...

"Beyond the English presence, ranking still evidences the Brazilian sprouting of technician, that starts to compete with the Europeans in this substance. Luis Filipe Scolari, who commands the Palms, has an annual remuneration of 3,6 million euros, appearing in 11.ª position of the table. Muricy Ramalho (Saints), Abel Braga (Of the state of Rio de Janeiro), Tite (Corinthians) and Dorival Júnior (International) also enter in the 30 lot of technician with the biggest wages. E I flow Menezes, Brazilian selector, occupies 29.ª position, with 1,7 million euros. Of remaining portion, between selectors, with the absence of Cap used by juris doctorate graduates, Ottmar Hittzfeld one became in the technician of most paid a national selecção of the world, with 2,6 million euros per year, followed for Joachim Low (Germany), that it receives 2,4 millions. E Vicent del Forest, the champion of the world to the service of Spain, gains 2,2 million euros per year. Last note: the weak presence of trainers of you equip Italians in the last places of ranking as reflected of one accented importance in addition of the soccer of the country in the European panorama - only Claude Ranieri (Inter), Massimiliano Allegri (AC Milan) and Antonio Count (Juventus) are capable to integrate the list".

Fair point I think.
David Gregory
591   Posted 10/03/2012 at 16:52:53

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Marcus (575) - it would appear that international managers are less well paid than someone of their stature would be at a club side, which probably reflects the smaller time commitment. Obviously Capello was the exception.

Overall, it seems he is compensated relatively fairly, which is surprising as my gut reaction was that his contract was too high.

Ferguson and Wenger deserve all they can get, and then you have Redknapp, Hughes, O'Neill, Dalglish and Moyes. There's arguments for all 5 of them, but I would prefer Moyes to three of the four ? I would only take O'Neill above him.
James Stewart
598   Posted 10/03/2012 at 18:40:10

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Why do you think he has stayed so long!!! Always makes me laugh when people say he will walk. Bullshit he has no objective other than to keep us up and is handsomely rewarded.
Dalziel Kane
601   Posted 10/03/2012 at 18:59:57

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On recent evidence particularly the last few seasons, if Mr Moyes warrants a £3M-a-year salary, then I really don't know what the fuck is going on with soccer anymore. Moyes isn't even a true supporter, all he has to do is pick the teams and manage the club as he is.

OK, he has the best interests of the club but he's not one of us. I'd more than welcome that kind of salary and for my employers to turn a blind eye when I put in a poor shift or accept some sub-standard performances now and again... Who can I write to?
Peter Hall
613   Posted 10/03/2012 at 19:58:25

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"How did Everton FC decide that paying Moyes £3 million per year is justifiable"

So obvious!

Moyes is the most important person at Everton. Adebayor is on £10m a year at Man City. Arteta was paid around the same as Moyes, £60k per week. Great man ? but not as important.

Do you think there is no club that would pay Moyes more? Then, sadly, you are very, very wrong.

Well done Kenwright for seeing that keeping a top-class manager is the most effective use of our limited resources.
Jamie Barlow
616   Posted 10/03/2012 at 20:13:49

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He deserves every penny he gets.
Jimmy Sørheim
626   Posted 10/03/2012 at 20:17:58

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I think it is laughable that Moyes gets 65.000 a week, and to add to that he claims that the players need to take a 20% wage cut, but Moyes does not mention if that applies to him!!!!

If there is to be a wage cut then Moyes has to join the players, if not then he sets the wrong example.

In terms of if he is worth the money my answer is no based on this season.
During the past years he has done better but to me he is earning way too much for what he produces.

Tim Kirk
650   Posted 10/03/2012 at 21:12:43

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Dalziel (601). Correct me if I´m wrong but the last supporter we had in charge was Colin Harvey and what happened during his stint? Don´t forget also about players that are "supporters" (a chap called Wayne comes to mind)... I´m no apologist for Moyes and he has significant faults but I think it´s naive to suggest that a true blue would do any better - although I´d be intrigued to see what job Saint Duncan might do....
John Gee
669   Posted 10/03/2012 at 22:52:04

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Hang on a minute, salaries are far too high in football anyway but... Moyse has done well for us. He's generated money, given us stability on the field, moved the club on and instilled a sense of identity that we, the people's club, were seriously lacking or losing in the decade before he took over.
Kirk McArdle
692   Posted 11/03/2012 at 03:35:36

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Jogi Low, Del Bosque & Hitzfeld are all better coaches than Moyes.

1, That is the reason they are National side coaches.
2, Nations generate a lot less sponsorship/revenue than club sides so they naturally have less to budget for paying a coach and his staff.

AVB won 4 trophies in the same year with Porto inc Europa league. Who would take him over Moyes now?? Phil Scolari won the WC with Brazil. Anyone want him shouting from the touchline at the Old Lady??

With Jelavic and Gibson coming in we have 2 very good players. Bily and Saha going are definalty no loss now.
Moyes is reshaping the squad again and we seem to be more competitive for it.

This is the sign of a good manager. The ability to re-invent his side. There is still a lot of work to do as Distin, Neville & Cahill all need replacing by the end of next season. To replace these with players either within the reserves of new players on a wheel and a deal shoestring I cannot think of another mamanger that I would have.

Give the guy a break. Yes he has his faults but so does everyone out there. Mourinho top of the pay charts. He cannot keep his mouth in check whichever country he goes to. The media cannot stand him. Guardiola. Inherited the core of the current side but taps into the La Masia academy for a ready made replacement whenever he needs to. 1 year rolling contract which means that Barcelona cannot plan for any long term future with him.
Tommy Gibbons
850   Posted 11/03/2012 at 13:58:15

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So, some of you think he's worth £3M a year? Read this article then, tells it quite succinctly in my opinion.

http://thepremierleagueowl.com/2012/03/11/tottenham-victory-further-fuelling-the-david-moyes-myth-at-everton/
John Gee
882   Posted 11/03/2012 at 18:06:19

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Tommy (850), that article is a load of bollocks and not worth the paper it wasn't written on. If that was you who shat out that particular poor excuse for an article then you should hang your head in shame. Premierleagueowl? Premierleagueowlass more like.

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