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The Friendship Scarf!?!?!
130 Comments: Last night was brilliant. The fans were amazing. I studied at Sunderland Uni so love the place and it was great to see the blues having a great time there!
Anyway, this morning I am scouring the web for any articles on EFC, player ratings, interviews, ex-pros opinions etc. Everything I have found is very positive and I am looking forward to West Brom on Saturday and the rest of a (hopefully) positive end to the season.
One thing however has got to me this morning! The OS is selling an EFC/LFC friendship scalf??? WTF, is this just me or is that completely out of touch with the feeling of our fans? I don't wear anything red, let alone a scarf that has their crest and name on it!
I am a Scouser and like many families in Liverpool my family is split, family of 7 split 5 to 2 in favour of the Blues. I hate ? and I mean HATE ? my brother and sister on Derby Day and could never when living with them put my washing in the machine if their RedShite top or even touch their kits when doing the laundry for my mam!
I know its a rant but is anyone going to buy these scarfs? Has the hatred subsided and I don't know about it? I would like to get an opinion of the other ToffeeWebbers on this one!
Andrew Fair, Posted 28/03/2012 at 09:48:34
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Let them twats wear all the scarves to make them all feel like "one."
I don't do red!
I don't do red!
Never!... Never!... NEVER!
As politely as I can put it.....Fuck off
They used to try and pass it off as the friendly derby, usually cos there were a few reds/blues dotted around in the rivals home end. If that were true, Benitez pretty much screwed that up. I cant see there being any 'merseyside' chants around wembley this time around.
We should have one of those massive banners saying in Italian
JUVE this half of merseyside is very sorry
for what those murdering kopite gobshite bastards did to your fans at Heysal.
I fucking hate those kopite gobshites.
I just really hope we beat them and beat them good.
JUVE this half of merseyside is very sorry
for what those murdering kopite gobshite bastards did to your fans at Heysal.
I fucking hate those kopite gobshites.
I just really hope we beat them and beat them good.
I have just had a look at them. You can look at it as a momento of the day, and the game. I have only been going to Everton games since 96, so 2009 was a dream fulfilled seeing them at wembley for the first time, and this is another, a derby at wembley. Do you guys not have mates that support the shite?
I remeber returning from the 85 final loss v Man utd. A mate who was a biased Rednose was at his patronising best (a Kopite Trait)
Never mind I was hoping you would win!
What we had won the league won the CW Cup and would have done the triple, no way would he have wanted us to win.
Yes I did just like you want us to beat Juventus.
I told him I wanted Juve to Twat them , he told me to fuck off and he was made up the Mancs fucking beat us.
Thats better I told him you Kopite Gobshite,
we are still friends,but I still hate them.
Still Go to the Pub to drink with them, but never never never want them to win against anybody.
On Sunday My second favourite team will be the Barcodes and next week it will be whoever is playing the Gobshites.
I am not Biased I don't give a toss who beats them.
Never mind I was hoping you would win!
What we had won the league won the CW Cup and would have done the triple, no way would he have wanted us to win.
Yes I did just like you want us to beat Juventus.
I told him I wanted Juve to Twat them , he told me to fuck off and he was made up the Mancs fucking beat us.
Thats better I told him you Kopite Gobshite,
we are still friends,but I still hate them.
Still Go to the Pub to drink with them, but never never never want them to win against anybody.
On Sunday My second favourite team will be the Barcodes and next week it will be whoever is playing the Gobshites.
I am not Biased I don't give a toss who beats them.
I don't buy into this "Mer-sey-side...,we're all in it together" crap
They can all fuck off the patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats
It's bad enough they took the name of my city without their constantly despoiling it over the years with violence, maudlin funereal dirges, cheeky Scouse "comedians" and the worst of faux-Irish self-pitiful wallowing
There, that's better
Personally Dan, I have a few Liverpool- supporting acquaintances (2 have been to Anfield and 1 even knows who the manager was before Shankly) who I'm happy to talk to, if we keep off the football, but no, no such as friends or mates as we have nothing in common
They can all fuck off the patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats
It's bad enough they took the name of my city without their constantly despoiling it over the years with violence, maudlin funereal dirges, cheeky Scouse "comedians" and the worst of faux-Irish self-pitiful wallowing
There, that's better
Personally Dan, I have a few Liverpool- supporting acquaintances (2 have been to Anfield and 1 even knows who the manager was before Shankly) who I'm happy to talk to, if we keep off the football, but no, no such as friends or mates as we have nothing in common
They are a bunch of deludes.
They think they should win the League every year. Nothing is their fault. Dalglish is one horrible twat. The players are cheating, diving , moaning gobshites. They are all tourists at Anfield, on a day trip to take photo's.
All together now ; He cheats, he dives, he hates the Jackson Five - Luis Suarez, Luis Suarez.......
They think they should win the League every year. Nothing is their fault. Dalglish is one horrible twat. The players are cheating, diving , moaning gobshites. They are all tourists at Anfield, on a day trip to take photo's.
All together now ; He cheats, he dives, he hates the Jackson Five - Luis Suarez, Luis Suarez.......
Dan,
Their actions at Heysal caused the break up of one of the best Everton teams EVER.
They never asked for any inquirey, never acknowledged their part in the disaster, never appologised for many years to the people of Turin, and moaned and ap;pealed their punishment. Nothing is ever their fault only their right.
Someone wrote during the Evra inquiry
ALWAYS OUTRAGED NEVER EMBARASSED .#
Sums them up perfectly to me.
And people wonder how we can hate them so much.
Their actions at Heysal caused the break up of one of the best Everton teams EVER.
They never asked for any inquirey, never acknowledged their part in the disaster, never appologised for many years to the people of Turin, and moaned and ap;pealed their punishment. Nothing is ever their fault only their right.
Someone wrote during the Evra inquiry
ALWAYS OUTRAGED NEVER EMBARASSED .#
Sums them up perfectly to me.
And people wonder how we can hate them so much.
Im the same to be honest, Phil. I sit next to a couple in work (this is in Blackpool), but they dont go to the games. The amount of times ive heard one of them say 'I could've got a ticket for saturday' but for some reason never take up the offer is laughable. I just throw that in their faces when they are winding me up. I was talking to them about signing Downing, and they said the club wanted Young but once Man U came in, it blew them out the water, then they changed the subject to how massive a club they are, hmmmm.
I agree Steve, but for the authorities at the time to punish the entire country for their actions was also a disgrace. Thats what made them even more smug, they couldnt compete in europe, but at least the rest of us couldnt neither!
'King' Kenny is a dick too, I bet he doesnt mind playing on the anniversary of Heysel, but he just shrugged off playing on the 15th april with 'we wont be playing on that day, thats the end of it'. Who the fuck does he think he is? Now Chelsea will have to play a champs league game 2 days after their semi. Not that I care about them but still.
Dan,
I dont look at it as a momento - more like one of those "novelty" towels that have face and arse on them (no prize for guessing which end I'd wipe my arse on but its the red one!)
Whoever dreamt up this scarf as a god idea is not in touch with reality! This is not America and this is not Rugby League.
Its Good versus the shite!
I dont look at it as a momento - more like one of those "novelty" towels that have face and arse on them (no prize for guessing which end I'd wipe my arse on but its the red one!)
Whoever dreamt up this scarf as a god idea is not in touch with reality! This is not America and this is not Rugby League.
Its Good versus the shite!
The FA and EPL should say fuck you Liverpool FC
CHelsea have an important UEFA Champions League game they are playing on Saturday, and as it is London Clubs
the KO will be 12 noon.
Oh and TV you can fuck off as well.
CHelsea have an important UEFA Champions League game they are playing on Saturday, and as it is London Clubs
the KO will be 12 noon.
Oh and TV you can fuck off as well.
I heard the semi is on the Hillsborough anniversary, so expect a lot of official blather about placating any rivalry that might be considered over the top... going to hear lots of The Friendly Derby from ITV for sure.
Maybe this scarf is with this in mind, they'll sure pick them out of camera at the match... or maybe they're softening us up for a shared stadium!
Maybe someone doesn't have a clue but I literally can't fecking stand that team, their shit fans, Gerrard's face and Kuyt, so ugly he'd have been tortured at school.
Thank God Milan got another go at them in '07 as I think I'd have gone coockoo bananas by now.
Maybe this scarf is with this in mind, they'll sure pick them out of camera at the match... or maybe they're softening us up for a shared stadium!
Maybe someone doesn't have a clue but I literally can't fecking stand that team, their shit fans, Gerrard's face and Kuyt, so ugly he'd have been tortured at school.
Thank God Milan got another go at them in '07 as I think I'd have gone coockoo bananas by now.
The Heysel anniversary is a different matter.
I despise the deluded, self important, arrogant patronising collective of them BUT...
I was at Villa Park that day and remember the quiet train ride back to Lime Street as the news filtered through. If my youth club coach had taken us to Anfield rather than Goodison when I was 11 I could just have easilly been at Sheffield. And those that died just turned up to watch their football team (anyway they were not as twattish those days). I know people who had friends and family who died and their lives changed forever. I have family and friends with no connections who were staunch blues who never went another game due to their strong feelings on that day.
I agree with not playing on the anniversary.
And I agree we should wear black armbands.
And I hope we play them off the pitch.
I despise the deluded, self important, arrogant patronising collective of them BUT...
I was at Villa Park that day and remember the quiet train ride back to Lime Street as the news filtered through. If my youth club coach had taken us to Anfield rather than Goodison when I was 11 I could just have easilly been at Sheffield. And those that died just turned up to watch their football team (anyway they were not as twattish those days). I know people who had friends and family who died and their lives changed forever. I have family and friends with no connections who were staunch blues who never went another game due to their strong feelings on that day.
I agree with not playing on the anniversary.
And I agree we should wear black armbands.
And I hope we play them off the pitch.
No, nick, as soon as the RS went through they put in a request to the FA for the semi-final slot that ISN'T on the anniversary. Quite correctly the FA acceded to their request, hence we're NOT playing on the anniversary.
Sorry - I meant the Hillsborough anniversary obviously!
They should never be forgiven for Heysel!
They should never be forgiven for Heysel!
Day before, day after, one of those isn't it. Semi final weekend. With it being the Derby it will be mentioned and probably used by Liverpool for the purpose of garnering affection to help them win. Could be vomitous.
If any RS fans do wear them no doubt they will hold them upside down when they sing that fuckind god awful song!!
I've hated the bastards for as long as I can remember, but I always thought that it might mellow as I get older...... well, truth is that at the age of 50 my loathing of them is getting far worse.
I absolutely dread derby day - in fact I'm already starting to feel sick about this one - and usually decline invitations to watch the match with others due to the fact that I'm completely unbearable by the time kick off arrives.
Watching a derby with me can't be a pleasant experience, but in answer to the OP, never ever in a million years would I even think about getting one!
I absolutely dread derby day - in fact I'm already starting to feel sick about this one - and usually decline invitations to watch the match with others due to the fact that I'm completely unbearable by the time kick off arrives.
Watching a derby with me can't be a pleasant experience, but in answer to the OP, never ever in a million years would I even think about getting one!
We will have to make sure our whistles and boo's are very loud when they play that stupid song from 'Carousel'!
Me Mam'll buy one. She's been a blue all her life but still wants RS to win when they aren't playing us.
I would be delighted if the game was played on the Hillsborough anniversary, don't forget that Evertonians lost family members on that day too. It is not a day for Liverpool FC it is a day for Merseyside and what better way to commerate than by Blue playing Red at Wembley.
I would be delighted if the game was played on the Hillsborough anniversary, don't forget that Evertonians lost family members on that day too. It is not a day for Liverpool FC it is a day for Merseyside and what better way to commerate than by Blue playing Red at Wembley.
"Always the victims, Never their fault"
I fucking hate them with every single breath I have. No way would I wear one of these.
"Kopites are Gobshites"
Horrible twats.
I fucking hate them with every single breath I have. No way would I wear one of these.
"Kopites are Gobshites"
Horrible twats.
As my old man used to say, "If THEY were playing in the back garden, I'd shut the fucking curtains"! God rest your soul, Dad -a TRUE BLUE has very thick curtains...
I presume the National weekend is still going ahead?
Will the FA allow us to kick-off at 15:00 when other games ae being played? 12:00 or 17:00 kick-off? That should be fun
Postponing it `til the next weekend would make more sense, anyway, allowing the commemorations to take place with dignity without the distraction of the semi-final
Will the FA allow us to kick-off at 15:00 when other games ae being played? 12:00 or 17:00 kick-off? That should be fun
Postponing it `til the next weekend would make more sense, anyway, allowing the commemorations to take place with dignity without the distraction of the semi-final
Everything will be nice and friendly 'Merseyside Merseyside' and all that rubbish the morons will be singing as long as they're winning. They're mad eup we got to the semis 'for the city' - no one believes all this rubbish and they only spout it as long as they win, if not they'll just start kicking off.
http://store.liverpoolfc.tv/souvenirs/facup/s/c/c
There is no friendship scarf on their website. Nothing about friendship.
This has to be one of the worst ideas that has been dreamed up by the LFC supporting staff within the corredors of power at Goodison.
They just don?t get it, do they.
There is no friendship scarf on their website. Nothing about friendship.
This has to be one of the worst ideas that has been dreamed up by the LFC supporting staff within the corredors of power at Goodison.
They just don?t get it, do they.
We'll be friends when were on top. Until then fuck off cos everything about your club makes me sick.
Spot on Andrew, can't stand any of the twats whether we're playing them or not.
One other additonal point, I've moved to Essex and there's as many of them down here as there is up there.
This is a genuine quote from one when asked why he supports the RS:
"I've been to Liverpool"
I rest my case.....
One other additonal point, I've moved to Essex and there's as many of them down here as there is up there.
This is a genuine quote from one when asked why he supports the RS:
"I've been to Liverpool"
I rest my case.....
Friendship - my arse
Always remember kopites are gobshites
Never mind police overtime in London for the match the authorities might consider having the Paras handy.
Always remember kopites are gobshites
Never mind police overtime in London for the match the authorities might consider having the Paras handy.
The Friendship Scarf.I think it's a great idea. I can't believe the negative response from some of the miserable gets on here. I shall most certainly buy one.
Now, have I got this right. You buy a Friendship Scarf, put the blue bit around a Kopites neck, and strangle the twat. What's not to like?
Now, have I got this right. You buy a Friendship Scarf, put the blue bit around a Kopites neck, and strangle the twat. What's not to like?
They'll go down a storm in Norway! Shame in a way but the days of the friendly derby have long gone, never to return. What was once a fierce rivalry is now pretty much an intense dislike bordering on pathalogical hatred on both sides. The Gobshites!!!!!!
So much hatred! Not cool, not cool at all.
I don't know what most of you are on about. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing wrong with Reds is that they're not Blues. They're friends, family and fellow Scousers who just happen to support the wrong team. End of story.
You know what, It's not about them - it's about us.
[Cue barrage of insults]
I don't know what most of you are on about. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing wrong with Reds is that they're not Blues. They're friends, family and fellow Scousers who just happen to support the wrong team. End of story.
You know what, It's not about them - it's about us.
[Cue barrage of insults]
"Day before, day after, one of those isn't it. Semi final weekend. With it being the Derby it will be mentioned and probably used by Liverpool for the purpose of garnering affection to help them win. Could be vomitous. "
Nick,
Of course "it will be mentioned", and it fucking should be as well. It should be mentioned consistently until it's hammered into the heads of the meff minority who have caused the derby atmosphere to deteriorate to it's current venomous state.
As Steve Pugh pointed out the events that unfolded at Hillsborough that day affected just as many Evertonian families as redshite. To dismiss the anniversary so flippantly as an excuse for 'them' to gain public sympathy as part of some Baron Greenback type scheme to defeat DangerMoyes is an unnecessarily low blow in my opinion.
Nick,
Of course "it will be mentioned", and it fucking should be as well. It should be mentioned consistently until it's hammered into the heads of the meff minority who have caused the derby atmosphere to deteriorate to it's current venomous state.
As Steve Pugh pointed out the events that unfolded at Hillsborough that day affected just as many Evertonian families as redshite. To dismiss the anniversary so flippantly as an excuse for 'them' to gain public sympathy as part of some Baron Greenback type scheme to defeat DangerMoyes is an unnecessarily low blow in my opinion.
If they beat us at Wembley, cue annother film / theatre production which is rated 5 starts by the echo being produced.
Let's not make it happen.
And that scarf as Tony J Williams politely put. Fuck rarrrrr offf.
Let's not make it happen.
And that scarf as Tony J Williams politely put. Fuck rarrrrr offf.
Bloody hell, Kev...peace man, Melanie Safka, love and Mama Cass
which elements of "patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats" do you not find applicable to the Loveable Reds you commune with?
which elements of "patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats" do you not find applicable to the Loveable Reds you commune with?
I'm hoping king kenny does the same as he did the last time he was manager of the redshite in a cup game against us - Retire
John, I wasn't dismissing the anniversary I was pointing out that it will be embellished in a way that would sit wrong with most people.
Remember Jurgen's Dream Final coming up to the 95 semi? Imagine that off the back of Hillsborough and you get where I'm coming from.
Using it for any reason other than to highlight the anniversary and the inquest is wrong, but I'll bet you it happens.
Remember Jurgen's Dream Final coming up to the 95 semi? Imagine that off the back of Hillsborough and you get where I'm coming from.
Using it for any reason other than to highlight the anniversary and the inquest is wrong, but I'll bet you it happens.
No...no Stewart
Make him manager for life, bring back Benitez as technical fact-finder and John "Barnsey" Barnes as defence coach
Make him manager for life, bring back Benitez as technical fact-finder and John "Barnsey" Barnes as defence coach
I'm not old enough to be a hippy, Phil. You'd have found me in Erics on Matthew Street, back in the day, not swaying about at Woodstock.
I didn't say I found them lovable. I don't really like any other team, since you mention it. I like my team. The rest are totally irrelevant. Unless I'm watching footballl on telly, in which case I want to watch a good match but I don't care who wins.
Come to think of it, I quite like Athletic Bilbao at the moment. And you know what, in our last two matches we played a bit like they did when they twice beat Man Utd: high-energy pressing, mixture of neat, skillful passing and long balls. Dynamic is the word.
I guess I just like talking and hearing about Everton on an Everton website, not endless bile about LFC. Funny that.
I didn't say I found them lovable. I don't really like any other team, since you mention it. I like my team. The rest are totally irrelevant. Unless I'm watching footballl on telly, in which case I want to watch a good match but I don't care who wins.
Come to think of it, I quite like Athletic Bilbao at the moment. And you know what, in our last two matches we played a bit like they did when they twice beat Man Utd: high-energy pressing, mixture of neat, skillful passing and long balls. Dynamic is the word.
I guess I just like talking and hearing about Everton on an Everton website, not endless bile about LFC. Funny that.
Alright Nick, I obviously took it the wrong way. Apologies for being a bit too eager to bite there.
If there's one thing that can unite Evertonians, it's our loathing of the RS.
I've already had flashbacks to the 86 final, and the longest and most miserable drive home. Racing back up the M6 with my dad, passing all the smug arrogant bastards with their scarves flapping from their stupid RS cars.
So you can stick the scarf up your arse.
I've already had flashbacks to the 86 final, and the longest and most miserable drive home. Racing back up the M6 with my dad, passing all the smug arrogant bastards with their scarves flapping from their stupid RS cars.
So you can stick the scarf up your arse.
My sis and her two lads are Reds and me and my 2 boys are Blues
Love them but, fuck me, they are deluded twats for supporting that shower of shite.
I hope they are crying come semi-final day...
Friendship Scarf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldn't wipe my arse with it.
Love them but, fuck me, they are deluded twats for supporting that shower of shite.
I hope they are crying come semi-final day...
Friendship Scarf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wouldn't wipe my arse with it.
For those that haven't seen it I would recommend Dave Kirby's Film 'The Ballad of Dixie and Kenny'. It certainly represents the relationship better than any woeful Friendship scarf.
What next? A Clattenburg tea-towel or a Clive Thomas toby jug???
Merseyside Derby? When we take on the RS we will be taking on the media as well, remember the club sponsors stated they weren't all that bothered about the CL as most of their customers are in the Far East and can't watch it anyway!
The RS have over 7m 'friends' on Facebook and the tv and newspapers know which side there bread is buttered on. We will have the relentless build up of the 'great Liverpool tradition' ? to me and you that is safety-first negative football backed up by a bunch of bully-boy thugs ? Souness, Case, Kennedy, Smith et al. Heysel will be papered over and Hillsboro' played to the hilt. Remember this is a club that loves its fans so much that when they made the CL final in Istanbul they gave over a third of the tickets to 'sponsors and former players'.
I hope Moyes keeps the squad away from this hype and let them concentrate on the matter in hand and let the RS soak it all up. There will be no neutrals this day, as someone who has chased work I know how the country is. The majority of the country will be supporting the Kopites, virtually every card carrying football fan will be cheering for us. Lock 'n' Load Blues!
The RS have over 7m 'friends' on Facebook and the tv and newspapers know which side there bread is buttered on. We will have the relentless build up of the 'great Liverpool tradition' ? to me and you that is safety-first negative football backed up by a bunch of bully-boy thugs ? Souness, Case, Kennedy, Smith et al. Heysel will be papered over and Hillsboro' played to the hilt. Remember this is a club that loves its fans so much that when they made the CL final in Istanbul they gave over a third of the tickets to 'sponsors and former players'.
I hope Moyes keeps the squad away from this hype and let them concentrate on the matter in hand and let the RS soak it all up. There will be no neutrals this day, as someone who has chased work I know how the country is. The majority of the country will be supporting the Kopites, virtually every card carrying football fan will be cheering for us. Lock 'n' Load Blues!
I'm with Kev here, my mum is a red FFS. Huge majority of my mates are reds, too. There are, of course, a (vocal) number of their support who are bellends but they're not all like that by any stretch of the imagination. There are some bellends who support our club, too. I hate the club and some of their players - but not the fans, generally. Still not going to buy one of them scarves though!
I wonder how many City/Utd scarves were sold before last year's semi?.........
With enormous pride I say Everton, this is followed by, where's that?.
Then the embarrassment of replying, its in Liverpool.
Don't get me wrong, I will love this wonderful old place, the city of my birth until my dying day. At the same time I hate having the club that I love mentioned in the same context.
Friendship scarves? stick em up your arse.
It sickens me to mention the city of my birth in the the same context as the club that I Love.
Then the embarrassment of replying, its in Liverpool.
Don't get me wrong, I will love this wonderful old place, the city of my birth until my dying day. At the same time I hate having the club that I love mentioned in the same context.
Friendship scarves? stick em up your arse.
It sickens me to mention the city of my birth in the the same context as the club that I Love.
Even over here in Australia, we cannot get away from those smug RS Barstewards. I have a sister who supports the RS... thank god she still lives in Wallasey but I still love her like I do my 4 other sisters who are all Blues, but I certainly do not like anything else to do with those self-loving, self-opinionated, lying obnoxious thieving, cheating, ugly twats who sing a funeral dirge as their team song. I also do not wear anything red. To all my Fellow blues in this forum, if I have missed anything out, forgive me because I also hate writing about them!!!!!!!!!!
Kev
Ah...Erics, yep, memories
You sound like a very nice, kind person, as does Mark Stone
Most of us bitter Blues must have been unlucky in that we seem to have only come across the Liverpool fans who are patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats
Ah...Erics, yep, memories
You sound like a very nice, kind person, as does Mark Stone
Most of us bitter Blues must have been unlucky in that we seem to have only come across the Liverpool fans who are patronising, deluded, hate-filled, perpetually victimised, spoilt brats
I think I quizzed this a few years ago, and to be honest, it seems to be more of an old fashioned thing. Maybe in the 60s and 70s these scarves would be more plausible?
I absolutely hate the idea, but respect that some others might like it, because they've been through the "friendly derby" era.
Btw, just to add another question, who do we hate more, Benitez or Dalglish?
Dalglish all the way for me.
I absolutely hate the idea, but respect that some others might like it, because they've been through the "friendly derby" era.
Btw, just to add another question, who do we hate more, Benitez or Dalglish?
Dalglish all the way for me.
Dave Gunning #367, my younger brother Paul plays the blue in that film, its coming on in Liverpool as a stage play this summer and selling out fast. He gets a lot of after dinner and sportsmans nights singing bitter twisted and proud and Schoey (Andrew Schofield) is a die hard red in real life but not a horror bag smug get when you meet him.
Here's him singing the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAW4XcpzLMU
Here's him singing the song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAW4XcpzLMU
Good to see the old timers recalling Erics when feelings were not so hostile between the RedShite and ourselves. Top derby memory: the 1-0 game when Andy King scored. Then all off to Erics with my RS mates to watch Penetration. I pulled, they didn't; what a laugh ? and I thought life was going to be like this forever!
Tuesday was great, who knows maybe its going to be out turn at last, we all deserve it. Let's hope we have a real go at them and show them the respect they deserve... none whatsoever!
Tuesday was great, who knows maybe its going to be out turn at last, we all deserve it. Let's hope we have a real go at them and show them the respect they deserve... none whatsoever!
I just hope they don't pull the Hillsborough sympathy card out again... we have already had one final like that we couldn't win; it is 23 years later ? move on, FFS.
Isn't it funny they only mention 'Merseyside' when Everton get to Wembley... was the League Cup win for Merseyside? No, it was for the RS, so let's not fall for that shite again.
As for the scarves, deary me which retarded jobsworth thought of that idea?
Dave Richman, I am a similar age and I left Liverpool 10 years ago, and no I haven't got any better either, progessively worse I have to say.
Isn't it funny they only mention 'Merseyside' when Everton get to Wembley... was the League Cup win for Merseyside? No, it was for the RS, so let's not fall for that shite again.
As for the scarves, deary me which retarded jobsworth thought of that idea?
Dave Richman, I am a similar age and I left Liverpool 10 years ago, and no I haven't got any better either, progessively worse I have to say.
The Friendship scarf... one of the worst fucking ideas ever.
Staying on the Everton merchandise tip, here's something Helen Mayo, everton's press and PR officer just tweeted this:
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"Everton confirm 3-year kit deal with Nike. The swoosh will be on the Royal Blue jersey for the 12/13 season." Can't wait to get my hands on the new kit, that's for sure. Oh and one more time for the record, they can stick that silly scarf where the sun don't shine.
Staying on the Everton merchandise tip, here's something Helen Mayo, everton's press and PR officer just tweeted this:
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"Everton confirm 3-year kit deal with Nike. The swoosh will be on the Royal Blue jersey for the 12/13 season." Can't wait to get my hands on the new kit, that's for sure. Oh and one more time for the record, they can stick that silly scarf where the sun don't shine.
You couldn't pay me to buy one let alone wear it or anything else r*d or remotely r*d. The best thing about the Internet is I don't have to use those r*d postboxes. God help me if the house ever catches fire.
Poor losers and even poorer winners. With the exception of the Brother in Law ( who is old school and was there in the 2nd div days, of which 99% 'forget' if they ever knew in the first place)
RS... You get exactly what it says on the tin.
Poor losers and even poorer winners. With the exception of the Brother in Law ( who is old school and was there in the 2nd div days, of which 99% 'forget' if they ever knew in the first place)
RS... You get exactly what it says on the tin.
Surely the scarves would be for tourists more than anything else?
Its pretty unambitious to be buying souvenirs for a semi-final appearance anyway.
Its pretty unambitious to be buying souvenirs for a semi-final appearance anyway.
At times I find the whole Everton supporters animosity towards Liverpool supporters a bit tiresome and I think about all the goodwill that has existed between the two clubs that has existed over the years...
And then I remember that there hasn't really been any; I remember how they tried to stitch us up over our fourth place finish when they wanted the fourth Champion's League place; I remember the dickheads at school who'd never been a match in their lives (and probably still haven't) who gloated whenever we got beat; I remember every wedding I've ever been to when they play 'that awful dirge' and reflect upon the scarves that mysteriously appear from all over the shop, whilst I disappear to the car park with a dozen or so other muttering blokes until the fight starts in the function room and we all dash back in to see which Evertonian cracked and who got lamped. I remember the grace of Benitez and his 'small club' jibe (Repeated only last week by Phil Thompson) I remember that whining woolyback 'Emily' Hughes with his 'Everton are tragic' witty song.... I remember every 'how many times have you won the European Cup? thrown at you during any debate about football however trivial to whatever point you've made (I only said the pies were nicer at Goodison). I remember the dual standard refereeing we've suffered over the years during derbies; I remember the pages upon pages of sanctimonious victimhood that was displayed after the Suarez Evra affair when every other Liverpool supporter became an expert in South American cultural linguistics; I remember the tee shirts and the whinging; I remember their self proclaimed status of 'best supporters in the World' and then reflect upon how many times they've shamed the city they've taken the name of... I remember horrible bastards that have played for them like Jimmy Case, Souness, Dalglish and even more horrible twats who have managed them like 'small club' Benitez, Houllier and Dalglish
... and then I remember to hate them a little bit more - Friendship Scarve?
No thanks
And then I remember that there hasn't really been any; I remember how they tried to stitch us up over our fourth place finish when they wanted the fourth Champion's League place; I remember the dickheads at school who'd never been a match in their lives (and probably still haven't) who gloated whenever we got beat; I remember every wedding I've ever been to when they play 'that awful dirge' and reflect upon the scarves that mysteriously appear from all over the shop, whilst I disappear to the car park with a dozen or so other muttering blokes until the fight starts in the function room and we all dash back in to see which Evertonian cracked and who got lamped. I remember the grace of Benitez and his 'small club' jibe (Repeated only last week by Phil Thompson) I remember that whining woolyback 'Emily' Hughes with his 'Everton are tragic' witty song.... I remember every 'how many times have you won the European Cup? thrown at you during any debate about football however trivial to whatever point you've made (I only said the pies were nicer at Goodison). I remember the dual standard refereeing we've suffered over the years during derbies; I remember the pages upon pages of sanctimonious victimhood that was displayed after the Suarez Evra affair when every other Liverpool supporter became an expert in South American cultural linguistics; I remember the tee shirts and the whinging; I remember their self proclaimed status of 'best supporters in the World' and then reflect upon how many times they've shamed the city they've taken the name of... I remember horrible bastards that have played for them like Jimmy Case, Souness, Dalglish and even more horrible twats who have managed them like 'small club' Benitez, Houllier and Dalglish
... and then I remember to hate them a little bit more - Friendship Scarve?
No thanks
To be honest kevin I detest them badly but as you said some of it is tiresome.
I know a good load of young blues and went on a coach on Tuesday with a load and told them all they are too obsessed with hating them, alls they do is sing anti kopite songs and it does come across as small time.
I have seen some of these lads crying when they beat West ham in a the cup final a few years back and thought `what the fuck are you doing` it was similar when they beat cardiff the other week.
We used to hire vans everywhere in the 80s and 90s pissed up and our sing songs where 90% Everton and 10% punk songs but now its just anti Kopite shouts, lets hate them but don't flatter them by being obsessed with them.
I know a good load of young blues and went on a coach on Tuesday with a load and told them all they are too obsessed with hating them, alls they do is sing anti kopite songs and it does come across as small time.
I have seen some of these lads crying when they beat West ham in a the cup final a few years back and thought `what the fuck are you doing` it was similar when they beat cardiff the other week.
We used to hire vans everywhere in the 80s and 90s pissed up and our sing songs where 90% Everton and 10% punk songs but now its just anti Kopite shouts, lets hate them but don't flatter them by being obsessed with them.
Simon 365 - best idea yet - if you stick it up yer arse, then the Everton blue end will be hanging out yer keks
Paul...it must be a personal, age and age and experience thing, with people on here having so many good Liverpool supporting chums - surprises me, that, must admit
Kevin...I was at a wedding once in 68 in Westminster Rd/Sessions Rd when that dirge came on - I walked, as we all should do, and was joined outside by the bride - "that's it, she said, can't go through with it" so me, her, a few others, including her dad and a bridesmaid, walked up to the Royal Oak for a few drinks
I digress, sorry
The only anti-Liverpool song I ever join in with is the Battle Hymn of The Everton Republic, of which most youngsters miss out verse 1 " .."We're the lads from Goodison that you all know..."
Now that IS a rousing song
p.s. forgot, I have sung "St John is a monkey.." apologies for being simianist
Kevin...I was at a wedding once in 68 in Westminster Rd/Sessions Rd when that dirge came on - I walked, as we all should do, and was joined outside by the bride - "that's it, she said, can't go through with it" so me, her, a few others, including her dad and a bridesmaid, walked up to the Royal Oak for a few drinks
I digress, sorry
The only anti-Liverpool song I ever join in with is the Battle Hymn of The Everton Republic, of which most youngsters miss out verse 1 " .."We're the lads from Goodison that you all know..."
Now that IS a rousing song
p.s. forgot, I have sung "St John is a monkey.." apologies for being simianist
Kevin Sparke
Agree with every word, moreover supporters of other clubs are equally dismissive of their arrogance.
The damage done to the city's image because of their "on tour" criminality is incalculable. Perceived martyrdom and hypocrisy is their stock in trade (see Suarez) individually there are decent koppites but scratch the surface and the sneering arrogance isn't far away.
Agree with every word, moreover supporters of other clubs are equally dismissive of their arrogance.
The damage done to the city's image because of their "on tour" criminality is incalculable. Perceived martyrdom and hypocrisy is their stock in trade (see Suarez) individually there are decent koppites but scratch the surface and the sneering arrogance isn't far away.
Interesting debate - I'm what I would regard as an old school Evertonian. I am not for the scarf - it's contrived, twee, not necessary and in summary ill-conceived.
I am however completely dis-enfranchised from some Evertonians' vitriolic and venomous hatred of the dark side, It's obsessive and frankly lacks class.
Class - that's something we always had on them. That's something that money can't buy and no matter how many tin pots you win you just can't acquire it if you don't understand it. They never have. That's what irks them more than anything.
Coming from a family of mixed blues and reds, it's ludicrous to propose that you can chant some of the things we now hear and then say well..of course that does not mean my sister, brother, mother father or whatever. We have to be honest and say that the derby has moved with the societal shift in complete intolerance of anyone or anything not confirming to our own beliefs - this often spills over to poisonous behaviour and random indiscriminate acts of violence. Who the hell thinks that's a good thing?
I loathe them but am never intimidated by them to the point where I drop to the standards where our brand and philosophy is besmirched and we join them in that world. Class counts in my book. Looking at our trophy cabinet, it's the one thing we have left - diminishing rapidly mind.
I am however completely dis-enfranchised from some Evertonians' vitriolic and venomous hatred of the dark side, It's obsessive and frankly lacks class.
Class - that's something we always had on them. That's something that money can't buy and no matter how many tin pots you win you just can't acquire it if you don't understand it. They never have. That's what irks them more than anything.
Coming from a family of mixed blues and reds, it's ludicrous to propose that you can chant some of the things we now hear and then say well..of course that does not mean my sister, brother, mother father or whatever. We have to be honest and say that the derby has moved with the societal shift in complete intolerance of anyone or anything not confirming to our own beliefs - this often spills over to poisonous behaviour and random indiscriminate acts of violence. Who the hell thinks that's a good thing?
I loathe them but am never intimidated by them to the point where I drop to the standards where our brand and philosophy is besmirched and we join them in that world. Class counts in my book. Looking at our trophy cabinet, it's the one thing we have left - diminishing rapidly mind.
Anti Kopite tendencies in younger fans such as myself are to be expected as we've had absolutely nothing to gloat about. People go on about being robbed by Liverpool at Semis and finals and what not, but at least you had a team who had made it there and won league championships in the years around it. You oculd take stick for one game kowing you could give it out about something else. Thats not true for youger fans, we've had to endure their relentless jibes without having any ammunition in return, the best we have is 'oh remember when we came 4th'..'.wasn't that the season we won the champions league?'. The worse their team has got over the eyars the more detestable they have become proclaiming any sort of scrappy home win as the dawn of a new glory era. Unlike in the old days, they don't even deserve sucess now as they have an atrocious team who seem to have some sort of pact with the devil when it comes to cup finals.
Barry - that's like an LFC fan saying "There are decent Blues, but scratch the surface and the vicious bitterness isn't far away". Is that fair? No.
Power corrupts. They've had it for a while, and it's made them arrogant. It's gotta be our time to be top dogs again soon. When that happens, I wouldn't hold out too much hope that we'll behave impeccably as a consequence.
Phil@515 - I've never heard "St John is a monkey" but it sounds like a brilliant song. Irrationally, it makes me laugh even to think of the chant "Kenny Dalglish is a homosexual"! Although, obviously, if he was that would be, you know, fine. Or whatever. But he isn't. So it's just blatantly and inspiringly absurd. Don't know why it makes me laugh so much, but it does.
Sorry, that's me not behaving impeccably. Blues are not whiter than white either. I rest my case.
Power corrupts. They've had it for a while, and it's made them arrogant. It's gotta be our time to be top dogs again soon. When that happens, I wouldn't hold out too much hope that we'll behave impeccably as a consequence.
Phil@515 - I've never heard "St John is a monkey" but it sounds like a brilliant song. Irrationally, it makes me laugh even to think of the chant "Kenny Dalglish is a homosexual"! Although, obviously, if he was that would be, you know, fine. Or whatever. But he isn't. So it's just blatantly and inspiringly absurd. Don't know why it makes me laugh so much, but it does.
Sorry, that's me not behaving impeccably. Blues are not whiter than white either. I rest my case.
James Martin, I am sorry, I am not buying that. It's not for me to ask how/why you follow EFC and since when does age determine whether it is right to spout venom/poison? SOmething is either right or wrong do you not think?
I just hope you are not buying into the Sky phemonenon that football started in 1992.
When I say I am old-school, that has nothing to do with age (I am 45 btw) - it is to do with philosophy/standards/class. Born in 66 I can't really say I was part of the Catterick era - but it is part and parcel of the club's pedigree. That's what I buy into with EFC (speaking personally) the history and tradition.
As for dodgy refereeing decisions we are in the same boat as Stoke, Fulham, Villa etc - the top 5 and LFC get them - they always have - think you'll find when we were top dog we got our fair share too.
I just hope you are not buying into the Sky phemonenon that football started in 1992.
When I say I am old-school, that has nothing to do with age (I am 45 btw) - it is to do with philosophy/standards/class. Born in 66 I can't really say I was part of the Catterick era - but it is part and parcel of the club's pedigree. That's what I buy into with EFC (speaking personally) the history and tradition.
As for dodgy refereeing decisions we are in the same boat as Stoke, Fulham, Villa etc - the top 5 and LFC get them - they always have - think you'll find when we were top dog we got our fair share too.
James
Just say to any Liverpool supporter anything like "good side Utd, that Giggs has been a great player, what a great job SAF has done" - my God, then you'll know all about venom, bile and irrational hatred
The last time I chinned anyone was the day after the Heysel ban when a Liverpool-supporting Scouse work-colleague in Whitehall said to me "well, there's one good thing, it'll keep you lot out of the European Cup
I walked out before I got sacked but, when witnesses told the bosses what was said, I was reinstated
I will not bother conversing with Liverpool "supporters" unless they can answer the standard 3 questions test
1. spell Anfield
2. who was the manager before Shankly?
standard first response - "before my time"
clue...mime throwing darts
standard next answer "Jockie Wilson)
3. who was John Houlding?
I'm with the Grand Old Ladies of Kemlyn Road" - "the sooner they're back in the 2nd Division where they belong, the better"
LFC - All fur coat and no knickers
Just say to any Liverpool supporter anything like "good side Utd, that Giggs has been a great player, what a great job SAF has done" - my God, then you'll know all about venom, bile and irrational hatred
The last time I chinned anyone was the day after the Heysel ban when a Liverpool-supporting Scouse work-colleague in Whitehall said to me "well, there's one good thing, it'll keep you lot out of the European Cup
I walked out before I got sacked but, when witnesses told the bosses what was said, I was reinstated
I will not bother conversing with Liverpool "supporters" unless they can answer the standard 3 questions test
1. spell Anfield
2. who was the manager before Shankly?
standard first response - "before my time"
clue...mime throwing darts
standard next answer "Jockie Wilson)
3. who was John Houlding?
I'm with the Grand Old Ladies of Kemlyn Road" - "the sooner they're back in the 2nd Division where they belong, the better"
LFC - All fur coat and no knickers
Interesting points James Mac-P and the 'class' thing in particular I subscribe to... but re the 'hate' - 'hate' is a fluid concept...
EG I said to the missus yesterday - 'Cauliflower cheese for tea again... I hate Cauliflower cheese'
After I'd finished picking bits of it out of my hair I reflected upon what I meant by 'hate'. I hate cauliflower cheese - but that doesn't mean I want to 'kick its head in' or write a poison pen letter to the cauliflower manufactures of Great Britain... I don't want to sing witty songs about how much I hate cauliflower cheese - don't want to start an internet campaign urging death to all cauliflower growers and I don't want any harm to come to any innocent cheese makers (blessed are the cheese makers...).
However, I still 'hate' cauliflower cheese.
In much the same way as I hate Kopites, Liverpool FC and all of their satanic works...
I had a pint with an Irish lad on Sunday who once was my next door neighbour... he's also Kopite (He's even been to Anfield... which is more than most 'Kopites' from Liverpool can manage to say). He's a good lad, and in everything bar football we get on great... even talking about football is okay until we get on to Liverpool or Everton FC... and then our conversation degenerates into 'hate' positions.
It's a shame the the derby match now has a poisoned atmosphere - but even back in the 1970s and the heyday of the 'friendly derby' a Liverpool copper couldn't get leave derby day because of all the 'kick-offs' between mates in city centre pubs...
I still hate Liverpool FC and their deluded supporters - but in 1989 I sat in a Liverpool alehouse hoping against hope that all my mates came back from a football match - from watching a team I hated back then and still hate now.
EG I said to the missus yesterday - 'Cauliflower cheese for tea again... I hate Cauliflower cheese'
After I'd finished picking bits of it out of my hair I reflected upon what I meant by 'hate'. I hate cauliflower cheese - but that doesn't mean I want to 'kick its head in' or write a poison pen letter to the cauliflower manufactures of Great Britain... I don't want to sing witty songs about how much I hate cauliflower cheese - don't want to start an internet campaign urging death to all cauliflower growers and I don't want any harm to come to any innocent cheese makers (blessed are the cheese makers...).
However, I still 'hate' cauliflower cheese.
In much the same way as I hate Kopites, Liverpool FC and all of their satanic works...
I had a pint with an Irish lad on Sunday who once was my next door neighbour... he's also Kopite (He's even been to Anfield... which is more than most 'Kopites' from Liverpool can manage to say). He's a good lad, and in everything bar football we get on great... even talking about football is okay until we get on to Liverpool or Everton FC... and then our conversation degenerates into 'hate' positions.
It's a shame the the derby match now has a poisoned atmosphere - but even back in the 1970s and the heyday of the 'friendly derby' a Liverpool copper couldn't get leave derby day because of all the 'kick-offs' between mates in city centre pubs...
I still hate Liverpool FC and their deluded supporters - but in 1989 I sat in a Liverpool alehouse hoping against hope that all my mates came back from a football match - from watching a team I hated back then and still hate now.
Kevin - I don't think that's "hate" is it? That sounds like "strong dislike" to me.
I strongly dislike Gary Lineker on MOTD. On the other hand, I hated Thatcher. Still do, really. I wish I didn't, but I do. It didn't bother her, she didn't care less, but it harmed me because hate is a fucked up thing to feel.
From my Bumper Book of Chinese Proverbs: "Hatred corrodes the vessel in which it is stored". Well said, that Chinaman.
I strongly dislike Gary Lineker on MOTD. On the other hand, I hated Thatcher. Still do, really. I wish I didn't, but I do. It didn't bother her, she didn't care less, but it harmed me because hate is a fucked up thing to feel.
From my Bumper Book of Chinese Proverbs: "Hatred corrodes the vessel in which it is stored". Well said, that Chinaman.
Shove scarf and when the fuck are the powers that be going to make a decision on the kick off time?
James I`m 42, my growing up days was when they where the best team on the planet, winning Four Euro cups, believe me it was harder supporting us in those days mate, although i had the last laugh when I left school in 85.
Kevin Sparke - interesting response and I do get your analogy. But, let's be honest, the bile and vitriol we hear is inexcusable and serves no purpose to anyone outside that growing group who are hell bent on causing mayhem. I went to the game right throughout the hooligan era - it was pitiful. I take my son these days and yes it is sanitised and susceptible to sitting amongst the prawn sandwich brigade - but it is better. There has been flare ups and punch ups at derbies for years - but without doubt the majority of it was between two mates who would get over it the next day - bit like a scouse wedding really. Wholly different from the faceless violence that is starting to increase and blight this fixture. It starts with the poisoned chanting and a reluctance of the old guard to step in and stamp it out.
Mind as I said that's endemic of a society now that just turns a blind eye to chav behaviour which only serves to provide a silent endorsement. Keen to hear your thoughts on that.
Mind as I said that's endemic of a society now that just turns a blind eye to chav behaviour which only serves to provide a silent endorsement. Keen to hear your thoughts on that.
I just don't get these references from some on here to a utopia-like time when there was less 'hatred' between the supporters of the two clubs. This is not something I recognize or can measure. I think it was primarily dreamt up by the media in recognition of the fact that there was no sectarian or cultural divide at the root of the dichotomy and that the schism could run right through families believing that that somehow made it 'friendly'.
I'm old enough to remember the shite being totally irrelevant, not worth the energy of a mere thought, because they were in the second division so I suppose it's true that I didn't hate them then. A kopite then was a rarity, or at least it was bloody hard work trying to find one. If you did, they appeared quaint and anorakish (just made that word up) and maybe just a little queer for not supporting a 'top' team like Everton.
Then along came Shankly and they came up to join us and at the same time came all the snide remarks (from him originally) and as Ferdinand said last week about City supporters, Kopites started to appear out of the woodwork.
Like cockroaches.
A lad I used to go the match with then decided he wanted to be one (he would have been about 13 as was I) Even my mam turned into one (albeit non-attending) because, she said, to her, Everton did not represent Liverpool. I think the real reason was that she wanted to get up my dad's nose.
Then they stole that Jerry and the Pacemakers song and everybody except me, it seemed, started loving them for no reason I could understand.
I hate them and have hated them since they came to my notice. Every Kopite between the ages of 40 and 60 would probably have become an Evertonian if they had been born a few years earlier. I still see them as a tribe of Johnny come latelies, whether they come lately from Norris Green or Norway. They are shallow and cannot see anything in football beyond their own team and it is this shallowness that lends them their arrogance and (it has to be said) their tendency to violence.
I have hated them ever since they came to my notice and the second best feeling in football is hearing that they have lost and listening to the whingeing bastards on the phone-in during which the shallow near-sightedness I refer to always emerges. When they win it's always the dawn of a new era, thanks to King Kenny. When they lose it is an insult to a team that should be winning every game and KK has to go as he is just not good enough.
There was a group of about six of the pricks in the Hermitage watching them play Sunderland the other week. We always get in there about 1-o'clock and the game had started. They got beat and the staff had to phone the police in the end because they were standing in and blocking the dooway, shouting obscenities and being generally threatening. We pushed our way through them to go for a smoke and on the way back in one of them said to my mate, 'Hey Bluenose, how often do fuck your wife?. He just gave him a screwing motion to his temple and said grow up. He must have been about 35.
Having to stand in the same stadium as pricks like that at Wembley is the only downside to getting there again. I fucking hate them and always will.
Is that sad or am I?
I'm old enough to remember the shite being totally irrelevant, not worth the energy of a mere thought, because they were in the second division so I suppose it's true that I didn't hate them then. A kopite then was a rarity, or at least it was bloody hard work trying to find one. If you did, they appeared quaint and anorakish (just made that word up) and maybe just a little queer for not supporting a 'top' team like Everton.
Then along came Shankly and they came up to join us and at the same time came all the snide remarks (from him originally) and as Ferdinand said last week about City supporters, Kopites started to appear out of the woodwork.
Like cockroaches.
A lad I used to go the match with then decided he wanted to be one (he would have been about 13 as was I) Even my mam turned into one (albeit non-attending) because, she said, to her, Everton did not represent Liverpool. I think the real reason was that she wanted to get up my dad's nose.
Then they stole that Jerry and the Pacemakers song and everybody except me, it seemed, started loving them for no reason I could understand.
I hate them and have hated them since they came to my notice. Every Kopite between the ages of 40 and 60 would probably have become an Evertonian if they had been born a few years earlier. I still see them as a tribe of Johnny come latelies, whether they come lately from Norris Green or Norway. They are shallow and cannot see anything in football beyond their own team and it is this shallowness that lends them their arrogance and (it has to be said) their tendency to violence.
I have hated them ever since they came to my notice and the second best feeling in football is hearing that they have lost and listening to the whingeing bastards on the phone-in during which the shallow near-sightedness I refer to always emerges. When they win it's always the dawn of a new era, thanks to King Kenny. When they lose it is an insult to a team that should be winning every game and KK has to go as he is just not good enough.
There was a group of about six of the pricks in the Hermitage watching them play Sunderland the other week. We always get in there about 1-o'clock and the game had started. They got beat and the staff had to phone the police in the end because they were standing in and blocking the dooway, shouting obscenities and being generally threatening. We pushed our way through them to go for a smoke and on the way back in one of them said to my mate, 'Hey Bluenose, how often do fuck your wife?. He just gave him a screwing motion to his temple and said grow up. He must have been about 35.
Having to stand in the same stadium as pricks like that at Wembley is the only downside to getting there again. I fucking hate them and always will.
Is that sad or am I?
Dave if your sad then so am I!
well put!
I'm 53, I am you know, and I dont remember a "friendly derby" either!
And my sister stormed off the dance floor when some dickhead red thought it a good idea to play that song for the wedding dance even though her groom was also a blue! The DJ did not get paid!
BUT, I watched the Anfield derby when Campbell scored the winner in a london pub with a scouse red mate and when 3 cockernee reds bore down on me at the end he stood side by side with me and warned them off.
Some of em are alright.
The majority of the ones that arnt are, in my experience and I'm sorry if this stirs up a whole new argument, out of towners with no link to the histories of either club.
well put!
I'm 53, I am you know, and I dont remember a "friendly derby" either!
And my sister stormed off the dance floor when some dickhead red thought it a good idea to play that song for the wedding dance even though her groom was also a blue! The DJ did not get paid!
BUT, I watched the Anfield derby when Campbell scored the winner in a london pub with a scouse red mate and when 3 cockernee reds bore down on me at the end he stood side by side with me and warned them off.
Some of em are alright.
The majority of the ones that arnt are, in my experience and I'm sorry if this stirs up a whole new argument, out of towners with no link to the histories of either club.
Not sad, Dave - normal
When I was growing up in Liverpool 8, all the South End lads were Blues; I'd heard of Liverpool as two of my dad's mates were William Ralph and a nice chap called Billy Liddell who played for them
However, I'd go to watch South Liverpool now and again
At SFX , I can't recall one teacher supporting this run-down, old-fashioned 2nd Division team; on midweek games, and after Sat morning football, us lads used to go to the match with the teachers
Then, as you say, came Shankly - ended up a good friend of Everton's, but has a lot to answer for
Kev...the other "naughty" song we used to sing was "Let's All Drink to The Death of St John" a la Dave Davies
Don't know why we seemed to pick on him - the 60s equivalent of Kuyt, presumably
When I was growing up in Liverpool 8, all the South End lads were Blues; I'd heard of Liverpool as two of my dad's mates were William Ralph and a nice chap called Billy Liddell who played for them
However, I'd go to watch South Liverpool now and again
At SFX , I can't recall one teacher supporting this run-down, old-fashioned 2nd Division team; on midweek games, and after Sat morning football, us lads used to go to the match with the teachers
Then, as you say, came Shankly - ended up a good friend of Everton's, but has a lot to answer for
Kev...the other "naughty" song we used to sing was "Let's All Drink to The Death of St John" a la Dave Davies
Don't know why we seemed to pick on him - the 60s equivalent of Kuyt, presumably
#554 - Dave Roberts - you nailed it on the head for me in your first 3 paragraphs - and summed it up beautifully in the 4th!
Fuckin friendship scarf... what twat come out with that? I would chop me bollocks off before I would wear fuckin anything with their name or crest on. Fuckin red scum, I can't fuckin wait till the semis to give it to them red bastards. COYB.
Another thing I would like not to see if Everton fans and Everton employees speaking about Hillsbrough. I also think a minutes silence would be disasterous as it only takes 2 people in the whole of the Everton end to ruin the silence. Plus with traffic many people arriving late will cause even more noise and disruption.
Phil
Was your dad's mate really Dixie? I'd like a barside conversation with you mate! From what I've heard of Billy it seems he was a decent fella too.
Mark
Yes you're right, not all of them are shitbags. Some of them morph into reasonable human beings by the Monday morning. But many of 'em don't I'm afraid!
Was your dad's mate really Dixie? I'd like a barside conversation with you mate! From what I've heard of Billy it seems he was a decent fella too.
Mark
Yes you're right, not all of them are shitbags. Some of them morph into reasonable human beings by the Monday morning. But many of 'em don't I'm afraid!
Dave #595, you should drag him over to Chester then. Dixie used to have a pub there - the Dublin Packet, and I believe it's his daughter or grand-daughter got it now. Don't know what it's got in way of memorabilia - but I've heard the ale's rank!
The only thing connected with the word RED and me is my letters from the Bank!!
Yes, Dave
They were army comrades and my dad spoke very liitle about his wartime experiences but I know they shared a love of betting and a nice glass of beer
My dad spoke of him with the same reference as he spoke of Joe Louis
Matt...my first memory of the Great Man was when I was sat on the bar of the Dublin Packet as a four-year old - course I didn't know WHO he was then
I last saw him when he was a liitle tubby fella sat in a wheelchair in a newsagents somewhere down Leece St, must have been just after he lost his leg
I've since seen a clip of someone interviewing him whilst he was stood behind that bar; it's worth rooting out just to hear him say the only person who could beat his record "is that fella who walked on water"
They were army comrades and my dad spoke very liitle about his wartime experiences but I know they shared a love of betting and a nice glass of beer
My dad spoke of him with the same reference as he spoke of Joe Louis
Matt...my first memory of the Great Man was when I was sat on the bar of the Dublin Packet as a four-year old - course I didn't know WHO he was then
I last saw him when he was a liitle tubby fella sat in a wheelchair in a newsagents somewhere down Leece St, must have been just after he lost his leg
I've since seen a clip of someone interviewing him whilst he was stood behind that bar; it's worth rooting out just to hear him say the only person who could beat his record "is that fella who walked on water"
As I enter my mid-fifties, my hatred of them has got worse instead of the mellowing with time that you could possibly expect. Like somebody earlier posted, I am from a family of 7 split 4:3 in favour of the RS!
In the early 70s I would try not to laugh at some of the things that Shankly would come out with, but he was a natural wit and his banter and put downs of us were taken by me with good grace. It was definitely friendlier then. I even forgave Crazy Horse his drunken outburst of magic/tragic once he had crossed the bar. When we moved from the Dingle to Billinge, Chris Lawler even came to a family do as he's a distant relation.
The thing that sticks in my craw every derby is the pair of shites that hold up that banner which states 'Steau-Bucharest' Champions of Europe. It really beggars belief for me considering the circumstances ? are they just oblivious to the reasons why no English clubs took part in the competition that year. There is a new term which seems to have entered the vocabulary in these days of social networks: TROLLs ? I think these guys are Trolls and should be treated as people looking to incite hatred and violence. I'll get off my box now and hope if I get to Wembley that I don't see them in my eyeline!!
In the early 70s I would try not to laugh at some of the things that Shankly would come out with, but he was a natural wit and his banter and put downs of us were taken by me with good grace. It was definitely friendlier then. I even forgave Crazy Horse his drunken outburst of magic/tragic once he had crossed the bar. When we moved from the Dingle to Billinge, Chris Lawler even came to a family do as he's a distant relation.
The thing that sticks in my craw every derby is the pair of shites that hold up that banner which states 'Steau-Bucharest' Champions of Europe. It really beggars belief for me considering the circumstances ? are they just oblivious to the reasons why no English clubs took part in the competition that year. There is a new term which seems to have entered the vocabulary in these days of social networks: TROLLs ? I think these guys are Trolls and should be treated as people looking to incite hatred and violence. I'll get off my box now and hope if I get to Wembley that I don't see them in my eyeline!!
As a young Evertonian, I've been through far too much shite as a result of them lot. I would never wear anything remotely connected to them. Ever.
Horrible club.
Horrible club.
Phil
I have a similar quiz for the "massive reds " whom I meet in Nantwich where I now live......"so when you go to the match what bus do you get up to Anfield from Lime Street then ?". This tends to be met with shrugs and remarks about waiting lists for season tickets etc
The other St John song from the 60's derbies was " send St John to Vietnam hallelujah"
I have a similar quiz for the "massive reds " whom I meet in Nantwich where I now live......"so when you go to the match what bus do you get up to Anfield from Lime Street then ?". This tends to be met with shrugs and remarks about waiting lists for season tickets etc
The other St John song from the 60's derbies was " send St John to Vietnam hallelujah"
Kevin 534. Knowing your wife as I do I am surprised that you are not picking bits of the plate out of your head as well! Anyway, what's all this about Cauliflower manufacturers? Being the pedantic arsehole that I am it should read Cauliflower producers. Unless of course they have done away with the need for traditional farming methods up there in Geordie land!
Picking up on what you said regarding hate. As you are well aware I married a kopite so I have double the reason to hate them all. Which I don't of course... cough cough cough!
Picking up on what you said regarding hate. As you are well aware I married a kopite so I have double the reason to hate them all. Which I don't of course... cough cough cough!
We hate bill shankley and we hate big Ron
But most of all we hate st John
Throw them all in the Mersey but
We'll fight fight fight with all our might
For the lads in the royal blue jerseys.
But most of all we hate st John
Throw them all in the Mersey but
We'll fight fight fight with all our might
For the lads in the royal blue jerseys.
Nice one Alan,
Do you also remember "St John's mother runs a who - err house in hell..."?
And the Bootle Boy thinks we're rough and nasty nowadays to Steven "Stevie" Gerrard
Do you also remember "St John's mother runs a who - err house in hell..."?
And the Bootle Boy thinks we're rough and nasty nowadays to Steven "Stevie" Gerrard
I believe Evertonians stand head and shoulders above the other lot. They might win more than us, but we?re still superior to them - and always will be. Class is permanent and form is temporary. The bitterness in this thread is unrepresentative of the majority of genuine, decent Blues fans.
The league derby matches have now been spoiled by the fact that the support is something like 90% to 10% in favour of the home team, and the sort of animosity which is evident on this page gets chanted. This serves to polarise feelings so that what used to be good-natured banter now becomes hatred aimed at a small pocket of people supporting the away team.
Wembley on semi-final day will be 50% blue and 50% red, many travelling to the match together quite happily, with plenty of friendly banter between them. The emphasis will be on enjoying the occasion, creating a great atmosphere to make us all proud of our city, and showing the rest of the world that we are still the capital of football. I hope and believe the misguided individuals who would rather concentrate on voicing their twisted hatred of the opposition will be drowned out by the overwhelming majority of decent people who will be there to get behind the players and support their own team.
The league derby matches have now been spoiled by the fact that the support is something like 90% to 10% in favour of the home team, and the sort of animosity which is evident on this page gets chanted. This serves to polarise feelings so that what used to be good-natured banter now becomes hatred aimed at a small pocket of people supporting the away team.
Wembley on semi-final day will be 50% blue and 50% red, many travelling to the match together quite happily, with plenty of friendly banter between them. The emphasis will be on enjoying the occasion, creating a great atmosphere to make us all proud of our city, and showing the rest of the world that we are still the capital of football. I hope and believe the misguided individuals who would rather concentrate on voicing their twisted hatred of the opposition will be drowned out by the overwhelming majority of decent people who will be there to get behind the players and support their own team.
Trust our kid to come on here and turn the place into 'compost corner' - okay, producers.
Talking of hate, I can't remember, was it me or you who shot a hole through Kevin Keegan's head with an air rifle after a derby defeat in the 1970s...
Our Kopite sister never forgave us for ruining her poster.
Talking of hate, I can't remember, was it me or you who shot a hole through Kevin Keegan's head with an air rifle after a derby defeat in the 1970s...
Our Kopite sister never forgave us for ruining her poster.
That would be you who shot at the poster of Kevin Keegan. I got the blame of course and a good whack from the slipper from our dad whilst he told me that next time I should shoot the real thing! (It was just a really low powered air gun before any police reading this come kicking my door down)
I'm yet to meet a redshite who is not infected by the arrogance of the club. They are ALL the fuckin same. They ALL talk the same patronising, self-serving, shite. I've been asked if I have a second team. Of course I have...whoever the Shite are playing! COYB
Friendship scarf!? I acknowledge their human rights and they should be thankful for that, the gobshites!
Friendship scarf!? I acknowledge their human rights and they should be thankful for that, the gobshites!
Normally end up arguing with people on here but tonight the only argument I could offer is that I hate them more.
I once wore my mate's Liverpool shirt for a kickabout, just to see the reaction of my mates.
They were very confused to say the least. I wanted to make a point that it doesn't matter that much which team we support.
However, the years have caught up with me and I have to say I STILL feel dirty for putting that horiffic Cricket-collared Redshite shirt on!
To sum up why:
Aldo, Hansen and Lawro's BBC love-in, Gerrard's tackle on Naysmith, Houllier/Bentitez, Phil Thompson, students who all seem to adopt the Redshite as their team before fucking off back down south, Dirk Kuyt, Torres, an inability to see any good in Everton FC, a bizarre fixation with our bitterness that ironically makes them sound bitter, Aldo, Aldo, and of course...Aldo!
They were very confused to say the least. I wanted to make a point that it doesn't matter that much which team we support.
However, the years have caught up with me and I have to say I STILL feel dirty for putting that horiffic Cricket-collared Redshite shirt on!
To sum up why:
Aldo, Hansen and Lawro's BBC love-in, Gerrard's tackle on Naysmith, Houllier/Bentitez, Phil Thompson, students who all seem to adopt the Redshite as their team before fucking off back down south, Dirk Kuyt, Torres, an inability to see any good in Everton FC, a bizarre fixation with our bitterness that ironically makes them sound bitter, Aldo, Aldo, and of course...Aldo!
Anthony 666, you missed Clive Thomas, Martin Atkinson and that twat Clattenburg off your list. I know all those that you named actually played for the RS but I'm pretty sure my three did as well
Good additions to the list those Derek. I'm sure it could stretch for miles.
Phil I don't recall that one at all it shames me to say.
I have a couple of (tenuous) connections in the music industry....have you considered bringing out an album ? ( album ! dear God not exactly down with the kids am I )
I have a couple of (tenuous) connections in the music industry....have you considered bringing out an album ? ( album ! dear God not exactly down with the kids am I )
I'm up for it, Alan..my (old) girlfriend, Luan Peters (5000 Volts) can still mime with the best of them
Steve ('646) that's the one us arl arses call "The Battle Hymn of the Everton Republic"
First verse...
"We're the lads from Goodison that you all know
We're the boys from the banks of the Mersey
And we sing this song
As we go along
For the boys in the Royal Blue Jersey...
Oh, we hate...etc"
And that's the real reason Disaster Kirkby fell through... we could never rhyme Jersey with Alt
"Bless `em all, bless `em all.....
Steve ('646) that's the one us arl arses call "The Battle Hymn of the Everton Republic"
First verse...
"We're the lads from Goodison that you all know
We're the boys from the banks of the Mersey
And we sing this song
As we go along
For the boys in the Royal Blue Jersey...
Oh, we hate...etc"
And that's the real reason Disaster Kirkby fell through... we could never rhyme Jersey with Alt
"Bless `em all, bless `em all.....
Shaun Sparke, you married a kopite!! Did you take leave of your senses when you met her?
Derby day must be great in your house, I couldnt put up with their smug looks mate, when I met my gf she was a red, she got told either change or your on your own, now married for 31 years she is a mad blue and is worse than me when watching them on the telly.
You have my greatest sympathy and admiration for your plight, as I couldn't do it.
Derby day must be great in your house, I couldnt put up with their smug looks mate, when I met my gf she was a red, she got told either change or your on your own, now married for 31 years she is a mad blue and is worse than me when watching them on the telly.
You have my greatest sympathy and admiration for your plight, as I couldn't do it.
I'd love one of these scarves to add it to my current collections which includes Celtic-Rangers, Israel-Iran, Greece-Turkey, Russian-Chechnya, etc.
it is marketing wank
Chris Owens 652, I get what your trying to say and I think before the game that may happen but I fear it will turn in to a hooligan fest. If we lose I know EFC fans will no longer accept the patronising RS any longer and with regret I think the semi will turn in to the worst fighting ever seen between both clubs, I?m sorry but if we lose expect loads of trouble inside and out. I live in the south and the Met police have said as much, they even said it was the worst draw of the lot for them. I plan to take my son who is 8 and I really don?t want to take him and put him in that environment but I promised him before the draw. The hatred from EFC to RS is at boiling point especially after the recent game so winning has become the only option and if that doesn?t happen then what happens next will be a build up of years of anger KK adds to that memory. I went all the games I the 80?s and it was tolerable on the 14th I will be doing my best not to even make eye contact with the RS I hate them too more than ever and I?m ashamed I feel this way but as I have got older (42) this feeling has manifested inside me more than ever and I don?t really know why. Both clubs may reside in the same City but we are miles apart on every level, when I go out with my RS friends we don?t talk about footy, on the 14th we wont even meet up as both parties would prefer this but these are some of my best mates since childhood, its really weird but it has become the norm. ?Never was so much owed by so many to so few? this is how I feel about the team on the 14th! Losing is not an option, Come on EVERTON!!!!!!!!
Rob Jones@662
No you don't.
No you don't.
Steve, I think youve welded two verses together there?
Ohhh We hate bill shankley and we hate St John
But most of all we hate big Ron!
And we'll hang all the koppites one by one
on the banks of the royal blue mersey
Too hell with Liverpool and Rangers too,
Throw them all in the Mersey!
And we'll fight fight fight with all our might
For the lads in the royal blue jerseys.
I think from distant memory there was a third verse but I cant for the lif eof me remember the words of that?
Ohhh We hate bill shankley and we hate St John
But most of all we hate big Ron!
And we'll hang all the koppites one by one
on the banks of the royal blue mersey
Too hell with Liverpool and Rangers too,
Throw them all in the Mersey!
And we'll fight fight fight with all our might
For the lads in the royal blue jerseys.
I think from distant memory there was a third verse but I cant for the lif eof me remember the words of that?
Mark
Thro my boozy brain couldn't remember the whole verse.
Hope Alan Ball and Labby are watching over us come the 14th
Thro my boozy brain couldn't remember the whole verse.
Hope Alan Ball and Labby are watching over us come the 14th
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Everton FC DO NOT get embroiled in any "lets return to the Friendly Derby for the sake of Hillsborough.." shite.
Whilst I have every sympathy with anyone who lost a family member on that day....it is NOT our problem and be sure they will do everything possible to manipulate the situation to their advantage...as they always do.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO joint scarfs, NO joint team photos, NO fuckin joint ANYTHING....if they come and suggest it politely tell them to FUCK RIGHT OFF.
I hate the shower of horrible bastards to the core and it's got nothing to do with how many European Cups they may have won.
It's the smug arrogance of their horrible deluded gobshite supporters who think they have a devine right to win everything and just won't acknowledge any achievement by any other team in the world.
Add this to the fuckin complete and utter bias of any media pundit who has ever played for them... even if it was only for 5 mins like that knob Durnin...did he ever play in the first team ???
Sky gobshites like Jamie Redkrapp & Thopmson make me want to kick the TV screen in but the sight of that twat's face when QPR's 3rd goal went in was a joy to behold....horrible biased twats...(even Hansen is reluctantly admitting that the just may not be as good as they think they are.)
Every single one of them seems to have had Heysel erased from their memory bank but still want the whole world to acknowledge their tradgedy...I mean absolutely no disrespect to the innocent people who lost their lives.... but it's true....They even had the audacity to say they didn't understand why Juve supporters turned their backs on them a few seasons ago....RS arrogance and IGNORANCE at its best.
So PLEASE don't join up with them to make it a "great day" for Merseyside..... just fuckin BEAT them and make it an even better one for EVERTON.
Whilst I have every sympathy with anyone who lost a family member on that day....it is NOT our problem and be sure they will do everything possible to manipulate the situation to their advantage...as they always do.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NO joint scarfs, NO joint team photos, NO fuckin joint ANYTHING....if they come and suggest it politely tell them to FUCK RIGHT OFF.
I hate the shower of horrible bastards to the core and it's got nothing to do with how many European Cups they may have won.
It's the smug arrogance of their horrible deluded gobshite supporters who think they have a devine right to win everything and just won't acknowledge any achievement by any other team in the world.
Add this to the fuckin complete and utter bias of any media pundit who has ever played for them... even if it was only for 5 mins like that knob Durnin...did he ever play in the first team ???
Sky gobshites like Jamie Redkrapp & Thopmson make me want to kick the TV screen in but the sight of that twat's face when QPR's 3rd goal went in was a joy to behold....horrible biased twats...(even Hansen is reluctantly admitting that the just may not be as good as they think they are.)
Every single one of them seems to have had Heysel erased from their memory bank but still want the whole world to acknowledge their tradgedy...I mean absolutely no disrespect to the innocent people who lost their lives.... but it's true....They even had the audacity to say they didn't understand why Juve supporters turned their backs on them a few seasons ago....RS arrogance and IGNORANCE at its best.
So PLEASE don't join up with them to make it a "great day" for Merseyside..... just fuckin BEAT them and make it an even better one for EVERTON.
Nelly, how is Hillsborough not our problem?
Rather than not get involved, make a big show of the number of Evertonians who lost friends and family members in the tragedy. Take some of the sympathy away from Liverpool FC and put it where it belongs, on Liverpool the city. It is, after all, our city and the people who died were sons and daughters of our city.
Maybe those of you that had nobody close to you at Hillsboro on that day won't feel as strongly but I spent hours worrying about one of my closest friends, who luckily did make it out. Many Evertonians were not that lucky.
Rather than not get involved, make a big show of the number of Evertonians who lost friends and family members in the tragedy. Take some of the sympathy away from Liverpool FC and put it where it belongs, on Liverpool the city. It is, after all, our city and the people who died were sons and daughters of our city.
Maybe those of you that had nobody close to you at Hillsboro on that day won't feel as strongly but I spent hours worrying about one of my closest friends, who luckily did make it out. Many Evertonians were not that lucky.
FUCK THE SCARFS AND THE SHITE
I bow to know one in my dislike of Liverpool but if I was one of their supporters reading this thread I'd feel even more smug.
And they call us bitter ? I had one dozy red shite trying to argue with me about Dixie Dean, saying that his record of 60 goals is crap because there was no offside rule.
I actually had enough of him and asked, "Do you honestly have a belief that you are better than me because you chose to support a different football team than me?"... he rambled on about "5 times", I politely told him to shut the fuck up because he was boring me and then turned my back on him.
I actually had enough of him and asked, "Do you honestly have a belief that you are better than me because you chose to support a different football team than me?"... he rambled on about "5 times", I politely told him to shut the fuck up because he was boring me and then turned my back on him.
Kevin (#497) ? wish I'd thought of that! Absolute quality.
Steve Pugh, After what happened to LFC at Sheffield you would have thought it would have been a humbling experience and brought together LFC and Juva but it didn?t they chose to blame everybody else still for 85. That in my mind lost LFC a large amount of respect and I feel very uncomfortable about the current enquiry for Hillsborough, they naturally want justice for their fans which we can all respect but to ignore 1985 and its legacy is sickening, self pitying and classless behaviour which frankly we have all got used to over the years from LFC. When I returned from Villa Park on that day I went straight to my friends Ian?s house to find out all was ok, thankfully it was but my brothers friend lost his brother on that day and it was terrible. The failure to recognise those 39 dead and LFC fans part in the incident is not only disrespectful to the 39 its is also disrespectful to the memories of all that died at Hillsborough. They as a club and institution need to look in the mirror themselves before they approach others for their sympathy; until they do I have no respect for them whatsoever, simple.
I work with a redshite. I asked him "where do you think Everton stand in the list of things they've won?" He said "Erm. Probably about 9th or 10th I would think". I told him we are the 4th most successful team in the country. He fired up Wikipedia and then tried to argue with me that Spurs and Villa are bigger than Everton 'cos they've won the FA cup more times. How do you argue with idiots though? (They'll beat you on experience).
It's interesting that since United overtook their league titles, what matters is the Champions League.
So I sent him an Excel spreadsheet quiz hat had pictures of LFC players in it. I knew about 99% of 'em. He knew none prior to the 90s! I had to once tell him who Emlyn Hughes was.
Do you know the biggest thing that pisses me off about them? When they're on a bad run, their supporters cite "not having enough money to buy players" as the main reason. I seem to remember Benitez spent more money than Ferguson during his period in charge and had the biggest squad in the country by far.
I hate 'em and this Suarez is the worst of the lot.
It's interesting that since United overtook their league titles, what matters is the Champions League.
So I sent him an Excel spreadsheet quiz hat had pictures of LFC players in it. I knew about 99% of 'em. He knew none prior to the 90s! I had to once tell him who Emlyn Hughes was.
Do you know the biggest thing that pisses me off about them? When they're on a bad run, their supporters cite "not having enough money to buy players" as the main reason. I seem to remember Benitez spent more money than Ferguson during his period in charge and had the biggest squad in the country by far.
I hate 'em and this Suarez is the worst of the lot.
Another thing I hate about 'em. Their former players are all over the media. I actually heard Jim Beglin in the week questioning why Messi hadn't taken a shot. He was berating him like some jumped up dad on the touchline. Jim Beglin ffs?
"I'd feel even more smug"
Physical and mental impossibility Andy. your head would do a Mr Creosote
Physical and mental impossibility Andy. your head would do a Mr Creosote
Alan #762....spot on Sir !!
Most of us who hate the RS have come to feel that way after years of listening to them spout utter bullshit about how great they are.
I used to have 6 Liverpool-supporting mates and me being the only Blue it was brutal when they'd play a video of the 86 final and force me to watch it over and over every weekend. We have been tortured enough by them in the past, it's time for revenge at Wembley.
The weather's a bit hot for a scarf anyway now, rather spend my cash on beer.
I used to have 6 Liverpool-supporting mates and me being the only Blue it was brutal when they'd play a video of the 86 final and force me to watch it over and over every weekend. We have been tortured enough by them in the past, it's time for revenge at Wembley.
The weather's a bit hot for a scarf anyway now, rather spend my cash on beer.
Alan, I'm not talking about sympathy for them, I'm talking about garnering sympathy for the Evertonians who lost friends and family at Hillsboro, thus diverting sympathy away from Liverpool.
I'm with Hippy Kev and the old school. Can't be bothered to hate LFC.. Ive got friends who were in the Leppings Lane that day and can remember an anxious wait before finding out they were OK. I do hope there is no silliness about all of this.
Ste, genuine fans will always have sympathy for friends and family it?s the decent thing to do. But LFC want these anniversaries which on its own is great and right but not showing any sympathy or decency to the dead of 1985 and its legacy is disrespectful, a club showing disrespect cant then demand it in return and there in lies the problem with LFC and the pity vacuum. It?s the clubs own actions or lack of actions that have caused this subject to have a massive grey area, there shouldn?t be any at all. That?s why joint scarfs or even a silence at the semi sadly won?t be respected, and why Evertionians will not stand by them on this subject which is a massive shame as underneath we want too but we have suffered massively indirectly because of their lack of humility and acceptance too their own actions, once they do then hopefully we can all move on. The recent race row at LFC has again shown all their arrogance and disrespect to the bigger picture, the difference now is the rest of the country are seeing what we have known for years and they are hated across the country not just in L4.
Here here Alan !!
As a Scouser at Villa park THAT day, Hillsborough affected me more than I would ever admit. I too had friends in the Leppings that day, they returned safe thankfully. I was a young lad but I felt moved to go to their pit the next day, and I was there early enough to get my EFC scarf on the goal at the kop end. I was always raised a proud scouser and these were my scouse brothers and sisters, so yeah I was caught up in it all. BUT enough is enough.
Let them have 'their' day on the Sunday or at their following match. I'm ashamed to admit it but I, in all probability, would not respect their minute silence or applause or anything. Just fuck off, for once I want this to be about me, us, about fucking Everton.
I was at the 89 final and I now realise that we could not have won that day, ok fair enough. The emotion was still raw then and the country would not have forgiven us for winning. But I really hope that 2012 shows that we, Everton have moved on from 15th April 1989. COYB
Let them have 'their' day on the Sunday or at their following match. I'm ashamed to admit it but I, in all probability, would not respect their minute silence or applause or anything. Just fuck off, for once I want this to be about me, us, about fucking Everton.
I was at the 89 final and I now realise that we could not have won that day, ok fair enough. The emotion was still raw then and the country would not have forgiven us for winning. But I really hope that 2012 shows that we, Everton have moved on from 15th April 1989. COYB
I'd rather boil my head then wear THAT scarf it's difficult breathing the same air as them lot. Friendship my arse...I'm with Nelly on this one.
GO TO WEMBLEY AND WALLOP EM! COYB!
GO TO WEMBLEY AND WALLOP EM! COYB!
Take the football element out of Hillsborough and it absolutely breaks your heart to think of those poor souls perishing.
The folly is the same songs and flag waving LFC used when "on their perch" sneering away are used in promotion of the "justice" they demand. Just comes over as liverpool fans singing for the cameras again, effective as "that video" claiming Hicks and Gillete's tenure was comparable to rape.
Compare the silence over Heysel and the blame game which includes Uefa, the Stadium, Belgian police and anyone else and they just reek of hypocrisy.
The folly is the same songs and flag waving LFC used when "on their perch" sneering away are used in promotion of the "justice" they demand. Just comes over as liverpool fans singing for the cameras again, effective as "that video" claiming Hicks and Gillete's tenure was comparable to rape.
Compare the silence over Heysel and the blame game which includes Uefa, the Stadium, Belgian police and anyone else and they just reek of hypocrisy.
I cannot even look at a Liverpool shirt or players like Gerrard, Suarez, Carragher and Kuyt without wanting to vomit. I dance when they lose or one of them is injured. Dance. I feel physical pain when they win. Hate isn't a powerful enough word to express my feelings toward Liverpool FC.
Great comment Andrew, got us all going. Hey, no one mention the H, word. Yes, a lot of people died, and I think all us Blues genuinely sympathise, but when will this be put to bed? There have been many disasters in football, but this one never ends. Is it a scouse thing? or just RS justification.
On the scarf subject, I have not or never will have any red shite colour on me or in me. And to finish, me dad says Shankly sold his soul to the devil, proving all the fuckin' luck they've had down the years,
COYB, let's beat the jammy twats at Wembley.
On the scarf subject, I have not or never will have any red shite colour on me or in me. And to finish, me dad says Shankly sold his soul to the devil, proving all the fuckin' luck they've had down the years,
COYB, let's beat the jammy twats at Wembley.
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257 Posted 28/03/2012 at 14:11:31
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I really cannot believe anyone will buy/wear these?
Are the shite doing the same?