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Stage fright
41 Comments: Stage fright once more and same old result! Reminded me of the final of 2009 where we scored first and instead of taking the game to opposition we brought the red carpet out and gift wrapped Liverpool's win.
I have followed Everton 35 years and should I be surprised? The emptiness I feel tonight is terrible. I feel for the fantastic support who have sung, shouted and supported the blues today and it's a shame it was not reciprocated by the players.
In a season which by recent standards is a roller coaster do we see this season as a failure or success bearing in mind we were 16th only 4 months ago? What makes today unpallatable: it's the worst Liverpool side since last year!
Still very proud to be supporting the grand old club! I'm a realist and we can't get any further than where we are and as we reflect now on today, tomorrow will be just as bad because I think I might have dreamt this and it should have never happened.
We lost this semi on Tuesday when Liverpool won at Blackburn. Pass the single malt. Love you Everton always will but...
Lee Marman, Posted 15/04/2012 at 00:31:57
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It's about having a winning mentality. I'm ok if we played with spirit and belief and lost. What galls me is to declare defeat even before the game begins (Moyes and Round praising Liverpool to the sky and telling us all how we are the underdogs and how we will try our best!!). Sheer defeatism....resulting in a team who actually forgots that they are man-toman as good as Liverpool, and goes out on the field thinking that they are there to lose. So even when we take a one goal lead, the thought in the minds of the players are.....how long will this last? Hence, they hold on and sit deep for the remainder of the game and invite pressure on themselves. Oh well, at least Moyes and Round will feel vindicated that we were indeed going into this game as second-best.....therein lies our problem.
Bottlers, the lot of them.
No, we lost this game when Moyes designed the recent 3-0 defeat at Liverpool.
Under the current regime at Everton we are psychologically in awe of Liverpool. Whenever we play Liverpool we should be trying everything possible to break this inferiority complex rather than encourage it.,
Everton needed to Know ,before this match, that they could beat Liverpool on a regular basis, however, this is the belief Liverpool have when they play Everton.
The last derby game at Anfield gave Liverpool all the confidence they needed to win this vital semi.
Liverpool or Everton's form going into these derby games doesn't matter what really matters is the previous form and results from when they play each other.
Under the current regime at Everton we are psychologically in awe of Liverpool. Whenever we play Liverpool we should be trying everything possible to break this inferiority complex rather than encourage it.,
Everton needed to Know ,before this match, that they could beat Liverpool on a regular basis, however, this is the belief Liverpool have when they play Everton.
The last derby game at Anfield gave Liverpool all the confidence they needed to win this vital semi.
Liverpool or Everton's form going into these derby games doesn't matter what really matters is the previous form and results from when they play each other.
Gordon lee with his mike Lyons trophy cabinet can now go with his Bentley and riches. Please that's enough now.
Tony marsh has been well and truly vindicated.
The worlds footy fans watched us being humiliated by our more famous neighbors. No fight, no flair, hardly a chance to get excited about. Drenthe the new Duncan Mackenzie....wtf happened? The end of an era surely.
Feeling sorry for myself in Japan
Tony marsh has been well and truly vindicated.
The worlds footy fans watched us being humiliated by our more famous neighbors. No fight, no flair, hardly a chance to get excited about. Drenthe the new Duncan Mackenzie....wtf happened? The end of an era surely.
Feeling sorry for myself in Japan
The game wasn't lost on Tuesday or at the derby it was lost when distin let suarez in to score. They were always going to win the game after that.
Wembley doesn't suit Everton because the width of the pitch shows the "wingers" up for what they are. Think back to how many crosses osman and gueye made. Answer? 0.
In 90 minutes 2 professional footballers were unable to cross the ball once, against a keeper who can't catch the ball. That's the managers fault. Sack him. David O Leary is looking for a job, or what about Megson..... No I've got it, lets get rid of Moyes and get Steve Bruce because he will definitely win us a trophy
Wembley doesn't suit Everton because the width of the pitch shows the "wingers" up for what they are. Think back to how many crosses osman and gueye made. Answer? 0.
In 90 minutes 2 professional footballers were unable to cross the ball once, against a keeper who can't catch the ball. That's the managers fault. Sack him. David O Leary is looking for a job, or what about Megson..... No I've got it, lets get rid of Moyes and get Steve Bruce because he will definitely win us a trophy
Laurence Olivier, Rod Stewart and countless others suffered from stage fright didn't stop them being the best.
But this is Moyes design Everton, after 10 years everything about it is his.
Over the years I've gone against my better judgement and conned myself into thinking Moyes has turned a corner.
Won't happen again - it'll be like Thatcher going when he leaves Everton.
But this is Moyes design Everton, after 10 years everything about it is his.
Over the years I've gone against my better judgement and conned myself into thinking Moyes has turned a corner.
Won't happen again - it'll be like Thatcher going when he leaves Everton.
Gary Heywood.
You have echoed my thoughts accurately. I said the same thing myself last week, a chance to give ourselves a psychological advantage was pissed away by Moyes and his spineless, sychophantic attitude towards Liverpool. No wonder they think, with some justification, that we are "always in their shadow". The old adage about not beating the same team three times in a season holds true with everyone but us and them. We were beaten before we started, something underlined by Moyes defensive formation as soon as we went ahead. The 25yd gap between Jelavic and the midfield would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. He couldn't believe we were in the driving seat.
On reflection, it would have been better if they'd scored first, Moyes would have had to have had a more attacking mindset.
Ray roche, Pissed off, North Wales.
You have echoed my thoughts accurately. I said the same thing myself last week, a chance to give ourselves a psychological advantage was pissed away by Moyes and his spineless, sychophantic attitude towards Liverpool. No wonder they think, with some justification, that we are "always in their shadow". The old adage about not beating the same team three times in a season holds true with everyone but us and them. We were beaten before we started, something underlined by Moyes defensive formation as soon as we went ahead. The 25yd gap between Jelavic and the midfield would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. He couldn't believe we were in the driving seat.
On reflection, it would have been better if they'd scored first, Moyes would have had to have had a more attacking mindset.
Ray roche, Pissed off, North Wales.
lost as soon as we were desperate to be seen as the underdogs. What's wrong with having a bit of arrogance to suggest that we might be good enough to be considered favourites?
Everyone on here saying we lost it due to our mentality are dead right.
We lost beacuse Moyes is a fucking loser, we took the lead in a half we dominated then sat back, the intent from the RS was as clear as daylight and as they put two attacking players on misery arse's response was swapping Gueye for Coleman and Fellaini and Cahill swapped roles. Gibson and Osman this year's invisble men as the midfield was overan time after time, as soon as that buck tooth bastard scored I knew what the final result was going to be it was just a matter of how many more they would score.
Moyes fuck off and take your miserable defend at all costs and defeatist shite with you, Everton will never win a cup under him.
Moyes fuck off and take your miserable defend at all costs and defeatist shite with you, Everton will never win a cup under him.
We also lost it because they have better players. Harsh but true.
Moyes didn't bottle it the players did. That was the team that went to Sunderland and should of beat them about 5-0. Liverpool where always going to come out second half and have right go. We just couldn't get going in the second half and we didn't have the options on the bench to turn it round.
Sam Hoare
Just like to say I disagree.
We had the players, the momentum what we lacked was guts.
It was a Moyes signature piece.
Just like to say I disagree.
We had the players, the momentum what we lacked was guts.
It was a Moyes signature piece.
Never mind Bill, there's always a chance of winning the Soap awards thanks to your appearence on Corry. You can parade the trophy at the match as consolation!
I have slept now and the pain is even worse. An early start yesterday, 5am from Huyton, and I find myself out of pocket and dreading the return to work tomorrow. 10 years and cant win fuck all, the very least that we except is to put one over on our rogues next door but Moyes can't even do that, AGAIN. 10 years and fuck all to brag about just more misery and a dire performance, AGAIN. Gutless, spineless shite, AGAIN.
Fuck off Moyes you have ripped my heart out and made me skint for nothing again and again and again and again......... The job will be even more complete when you finish below the shite this season, did I say AGAIN.
RESIGN now you inept, dithering, stubborn, rich, out of your depth, punch above weight dickhead.
I have slept now and the pain is even worse. An early start yesterday, 5am from Huyton, and I find myself out of pocket and dreading the return to work tomorrow. 10 years and cant win fuck all, the very least that we except is to put one over on our rogues next door but Moyes can't even do that, AGAIN. 10 years and fuck all to brag about just more misery and a dire performance, AGAIN. Gutless, spineless shite, AGAIN.
Fuck off Moyes you have ripped my heart out and made me skint for nothing again and again and again and again......... The job will be even more complete when you finish below the shite this season, did I say AGAIN.
RESIGN now you inept, dithering, stubborn, rich, out of your depth, punch above weight dickhead.
Gary Heywood.
You have echoed my thoughts accurately. I said the same thing myself last week, a chance to give ourselves a psychological advantage was pissed away by Moyes and his spineless, sychophantic attitude towards Liverpool. No wonder they think, with some justification, that we are "always in their shadow". The old adage about not beating the same team three times in a season holds true with everyone but us and them. We were beaten before we started, something underlined by Moyes defensive formation as soon as we went ahead. The 25yd gap between Jelavic and the midfield would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. He couldn't believe we were in the driving seat.
On reflection, it would have been better if they'd scored first, Moyes would have had to have had a more attacking mindset.
Ray roche, Pissed off, North Wales.
You have echoed my thoughts accurately. I said the same thing myself last week, a chance to give ourselves a psychological advantage was pissed away by Moyes and his spineless, sychophantic attitude towards Liverpool. No wonder they think, with some justification, that we are "always in their shadow". The old adage about not beating the same team three times in a season holds true with everyone but us and them. We were beaten before we started, something underlined by Moyes defensive formation as soon as we went ahead. The 25yd gap between Jelavic and the midfield would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. He couldn't believe we were in the driving seat.
On reflection, it would have been better if they'd scored first, Moyes would have had to have had a more attacking mindset.
Ray roche, Pissed off, North Wales.
In all my days supporting the blues, that was a real low.
We bottled it in the most appalling manner and the manager must take the blame.
I shook my head reading that he thought it was Distin's error which turned the match. Well, we were so tired from defending that an error was inevitable.
What is galling is that the shite could have played their under 17 keeper in goal and still would have won - we did nothing to test them.
A sickening defeat all round.
We bottled it in the most appalling manner and the manager must take the blame.
I shook my head reading that he thought it was Distin's error which turned the match. Well, we were so tired from defending that an error was inevitable.
What is galling is that the shite could have played their under 17 keeper in goal and still would have won - we did nothing to test them.
A sickening defeat all round.
Sorry, I seem to have developed a stutter.
Just woke up. Had this recurring dream that we were beating Liverpool at Wembley but went and lost 2-1. It'll be them pickled onions I had.
Moyes 10 years no silverwear
dogleash 1 year 1 trophy possibly 2
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dogleash 1 year 1 trophy possibly 2
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Moyes 10 years no silverwear
dogleash 1 year 1 trophy possibly 2
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dogleash 1 year 1 trophy possibly 2
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The whole club from top to bottom shit themselves and I include the support in that too,we all gave in and knew what was coming, they have a mental block over us, but we pay a manager millions to try and stop that, but I'm sorry Moyes throwing Fellaini up top because Cahill was shattered just showed Dalglish and co we had lost the plot, if ever they needed something to spur them on that was it.
We lost because we have an inferority complex from top to bottow when it comes to them. Would we have a sat back and shit ourselves against a better team - such as Newcastle? Would we fuck, we'd be trying to sort final tickets out by now.
Paul @ 673. I can't accept that the support gave up. I, like many others, thought we would tear them a new one. I now have no voice, am shattered and have a big hole in my wallet.
From were I was sat we sang and believed but that shithouse let us all down and has the fuckin cheek to blame the players that he picked in the formation that he chose and playing the tactics that he decided upon. Surely after 10 years we deserve better.
From were I was sat we sang and believed but that shithouse let us all down and has the fuckin cheek to blame the players that he picked in the formation that he chose and playing the tactics that he decided upon. Surely after 10 years we deserve better.
Liverpool have the better team? Doubt it. I haven't even heard of some of their players. Which makes it all the more disappointing.
Simon Hoare, they do not have a better team than us.
Everton and Liverpool are currently 7th and 8th in the Premiership with just a few games to go.
It's because of our tactical failure to beat Liverpool this season that we are not a clear 13 points ahead of them. We make them look superior because of our self induced inferiority complex.
Liverpool have been beaten 13 times in the Premiership, most teams have no fear of them, even Wigan can beat them when they have to.
We are not playing Man U or Man C who clearly have better players and a better team than we do.
Liverpool relish playing Everton,probably more than anyone else in the the league, because they know that the game is usually won before a ball is kicked. Our fearful approach to the derby games on and off the pitch gives Liverpool all the confidence they need to come out on top.
Everton and Liverpool are currently 7th and 8th in the Premiership with just a few games to go.
It's because of our tactical failure to beat Liverpool this season that we are not a clear 13 points ahead of them. We make them look superior because of our self induced inferiority complex.
Liverpool have been beaten 13 times in the Premiership, most teams have no fear of them, even Wigan can beat them when they have to.
We are not playing Man U or Man C who clearly have better players and a better team than we do.
Liverpool relish playing Everton,probably more than anyone else in the the league, because they know that the game is usually won before a ball is kicked. Our fearful approach to the derby games on and off the pitch gives Liverpool all the confidence they need to come out on top.
Like who Nick?
For some reason! we are totally scared of playing Liverpool. Every other club have slapped them big time this year. Liverpool have the worst team in a decade spending 100+ mil on dross. Coupled with our defensive negative thinking tactics we are doomed against them. The team talk given by Moyes at half-time was obviously so predictable, Doglead must have had it written down.
No progression, very stale, same tactics same formation, no variation, every Evertonian can pick the team each week.
Sorry to be negative but I am hurting. I would play Sunderland every week but if we had to play Liverpool every week we would be bloody relegated. I Despair.
No progression, very stale, same tactics same formation, no variation, every Evertonian can pick the team each week.
Sorry to be negative but I am hurting. I would play Sunderland every week but if we had to play Liverpool every week we would be bloody relegated. I Despair.
I know what you mean Lee about Liverpool's win at Blackburn resulted in them winning against us at Wembley.
To me it's the cornered/wounded animal syndrom.
Ever tried giving a cat a pill? Then you'll know what I mean: Use technique and force and you'll invariably be successful. If not, and you're defensive or too passive you'll get scratched, bitten and after that the cat will have disappeared,
The RS have been "backs to the wall" over the last 8 games or more, So were we at the beginning of the season as we always are.: It's probably why we become more successful in the New Year
To me it's the cornered/wounded animal syndrom.
Ever tried giving a cat a pill? Then you'll know what I mean: Use technique and force and you'll invariably be successful. If not, and you're defensive or too passive you'll get scratched, bitten and after that the cat will have disappeared,
The RS have been "backs to the wall" over the last 8 games or more, So were we at the beginning of the season as we always are.: It's probably why we become more successful in the New Year
We know what will happen at OT next weekend, same set up, try and nick and goal and sit on it, instead of FUCKING HAVING A REAL GO!!! So what if we lose 5-0 next week, it's not as though we have much to play for, but we know what will happen Moyes will happily accept a 1-0/2-0 loss.
The thing is Kunal if we did that Moyes would get slaughtered for being naive.
Stage fright, yes, but of what kind and why?
Moyes under Everton have been accused of not being able to beat the 'toop teams. That's turned out not to be true. We've even beaten ManU at Wembley.
And I wouldn't take too much notice of the underdog rehtoric.Lots of managers do this and it's not necessarily what they say to their players.
Thare is, as others have noted, is something specific to playing Liverpool. The team (and it's immediate foreunners), have an inferiority conplex and Moyes and he coaching staff have not done enought to counter it. In retrospect, the decision to field a weakened team at Anfield was an even bigger mistake than it appeared. Moyes was not to know that we would draw Liverpool in the semis, but it gave them a massive confidence boost and deflated us - not in general (see Sunderland performancesw), but against them.
We casn't change that outcome but we have to change the approach in the future, or more ;derby misery awaits.
Moyes under Everton have been accused of not being able to beat the 'toop teams. That's turned out not to be true. We've even beaten ManU at Wembley.
And I wouldn't take too much notice of the underdog rehtoric.Lots of managers do this and it's not necessarily what they say to their players.
Thare is, as others have noted, is something specific to playing Liverpool. The team (and it's immediate foreunners), have an inferiority conplex and Moyes and he coaching staff have not done enought to counter it. In retrospect, the decision to field a weakened team at Anfield was an even bigger mistake than it appeared. Moyes was not to know that we would draw Liverpool in the semis, but it gave them a massive confidence boost and deflated us - not in general (see Sunderland performancesw), but against them.
We casn't change that outcome but we have to change the approach in the future, or more ;derby misery awaits.
We have a team who on their day can win any given game. Problem isthat when it is a pressure game, we just dont have what it takes. Is that the players fault? Well, I see that as the major flaw in our manager. He just does not have the winning mentallity. You have to gamble to be a winner.
The important bit though is knowing how to gamble. When, where and to what extent you gamble, this is where Moyes fails every time. He just wont take "that chance". Instead he plays it safe and ends up losing because that is the nature of the businesss.
The important bit though is knowing how to gamble. When, where and to what extent you gamble, this is where Moyes fails every time. He just wont take "that chance". Instead he plays it safe and ends up losing because that is the nature of the businesss.
Well - its over now so no point in sitting in the dark with a bottle in one and an Moyes Voodoo doll in the other.
We have a complex when it come to playing them and thats not going to go away in the near future. After 10 years and some good work I would say its high time both parties said 'thanks for the memories' and parted company. Think this will be 100% Moyes' choice as I cannot see BK wanting to let Moyes go.
We need to regroup, look to the future and clear out some of the deadwood and start a fresh. Yes we dont have much money but there are dozens of players on frees at the end of the season and we can make some room by getting rid of some of the ones that are not going to be the clubs future.
The likes of Macfadden, Cahill, Neville, Hibbert, Osman, Distin, Anichebe are all either not good enough, over the hill (or not far off) or both. Am not necesarily saying get rid of them all but we cannot have any of these being some of the clubs top earners (e.g. Cahill).
@ Matt Green 642, Wembley is only 1 metre wider than GP so cannot blame the width of the pitch for yesterdays shambles.
We have a complex when it come to playing them and thats not going to go away in the near future. After 10 years and some good work I would say its high time both parties said 'thanks for the memories' and parted company. Think this will be 100% Moyes' choice as I cannot see BK wanting to let Moyes go.
We need to regroup, look to the future and clear out some of the deadwood and start a fresh. Yes we dont have much money but there are dozens of players on frees at the end of the season and we can make some room by getting rid of some of the ones that are not going to be the clubs future.
The likes of Macfadden, Cahill, Neville, Hibbert, Osman, Distin, Anichebe are all either not good enough, over the hill (or not far off) or both. Am not necesarily saying get rid of them all but we cannot have any of these being some of the clubs top earners (e.g. Cahill).
@ Matt Green 642, Wembley is only 1 metre wider than GP so cannot blame the width of the pitch for yesterdays shambles.
Matt G #607, The game was lost at half time when our tactically naive manager opted for a 1 nil win. from that point anyone with half an eye could see we were coming more and more under the cosh and there would be an RS win regardless of Distin's mistake.
By the way did you notice Dalglish did not settle for a draw and extra time. In the dying minutes even though his team was in front he was busy bringing on another attacker and that attacker bloody nearly scored as well.
Not in a million years would our dugout coward dream of being so adventurous.
By the way did you notice Dalglish did not settle for a draw and extra time. In the dying minutes even though his team was in front he was busy bringing on another attacker and that attacker bloody nearly scored as well.
Not in a million years would our dugout coward dream of being so adventurous.
Lee, you say we couldn't get any further than we are, well yesterday we could have! What did Liverpool do when they scored? They went looking for a winner, what did they do when they scored the winner? They went looking to score again! What happened when we scored? We went looking to defend that lead, even to the point of time wasting by Howard and this still in the first half!! So those same players of ours could have got us a hell of a lot further yesterday!
In my lifetime I have seen Everton teams managed by Harry Catterick, Gordon Lee, Howard Kendall, Colin Harvey and now David Moyes lose semi finals or finals to Liverpool. In 3 of those game we were leading at half time, and in one we had a last minute ?winner? disallowed before going on to lose the replay.
The history books show that we have not beaten them in a game of this magnitude since 1906. We seem to have a collective psychological inferiority complex we when we play them, and this has been going on for years, not just under the present manager. I fear I?ll now never see us beat them in a semi final or final. We may well beat them in the league and earlier rounds of the cup in the future, but when it really matters we always lose, no matter who is in charge.
When Distin made the error yesterday I feared it was the Gary Stevens ?86 moment that would turn the game and unfortunately I was correct. They always get the breaks against us. Why is this? I just don?t know. A lad in the pub afterwards said they must have a pact with the devil the amount of times they get the lucky breaks in really big games, and it is not just against us.
Sorry for being so negative, but it?s just how I feel at the moment.
The history books show that we have not beaten them in a game of this magnitude since 1906. We seem to have a collective psychological inferiority complex we when we play them, and this has been going on for years, not just under the present manager. I fear I?ll now never see us beat them in a semi final or final. We may well beat them in the league and earlier rounds of the cup in the future, but when it really matters we always lose, no matter who is in charge.
When Distin made the error yesterday I feared it was the Gary Stevens ?86 moment that would turn the game and unfortunately I was correct. They always get the breaks against us. Why is this? I just don?t know. A lad in the pub afterwards said they must have a pact with the devil the amount of times they get the lucky breaks in really big games, and it is not just against us.
Sorry for being so negative, but it?s just how I feel at the moment.
John #876 = You make a good point but ask "why is this?"
Maybe one reason - beyond financial resources - is that LFC actually DO have more of a winning mentality than we do. To my eyes in yesterdays's game they had a bit more attacking intent despite the fact that they weren't playing that well. How many last minute goals have they scored over the years? They keep going for a winner, we plod on regardless.
We seem to rarely give teams a good hiding prefering to snatch one and hold on. Positive substitutions are made too late and this has been a trend for some time now.
I'm not bigging Liverpool up because I genuinely can't stand them but there has to be some reason why what I've called "spawniness" or "jamminess" happens to them far more than us.
Someone made the point yesterday on another thread that we need a couple of nasty wimmers in the team - the likes of Reid and Gray - who drag the rest of the team dragging and screaming to give every ounce of energy for a win.
Maybe one reason - beyond financial resources - is that LFC actually DO have more of a winning mentality than we do. To my eyes in yesterdays's game they had a bit more attacking intent despite the fact that they weren't playing that well. How many last minute goals have they scored over the years? They keep going for a winner, we plod on regardless.
We seem to rarely give teams a good hiding prefering to snatch one and hold on. Positive substitutions are made too late and this has been a trend for some time now.
I'm not bigging Liverpool up because I genuinely can't stand them but there has to be some reason why what I've called "spawniness" or "jamminess" happens to them far more than us.
Someone made the point yesterday on another thread that we need a couple of nasty wimmers in the team - the likes of Reid and Gray - who drag the rest of the team dragging and screaming to give every ounce of energy for a win.
Agree with the original post and the views of many others that cite fear as the main contributing factor in our performance. It?s probably the same fear that many of us supporters feel, having witnessed too many capitulations against Liverpool over the years and it will take a special leader to break this cycle?.Moyes isn?t that person. In addition, I thought we lacked energy again on a big occasion. I still have nightmares about the right flank combination of Hibbert and Osman in 2009 and how they were ripped apart by Chelsea, yesterday?s performance had too many similarities. I think its fair to say that ?Dissapointing? is an understatement.
The game wasn't lost on Tuesday. It wasn't lost because Drenthe didn't play or Barkley either. It wasn't even lost because Distin gave the ball away. Let's be honest, it was lost because we cannot keep a football and feel we need to defend when we should be attacking. We resort to the easy option of lumping balls.
Let's assess that game objectively (I have only seen the game the once - couldn't bear to relive it). Spearing had a chance in the opening minutes. We got a flukey goal where our forward was partly offside anyway.
They missed a fair few chances and had more possession. Carroll should have scored with the header. They had numerous chances at 2-1. They also have a belief against us which we never have.
I read an article in the Guardian on Saturday where Darren Gibson says that Moyes makes him run a lot more than Ferguson ever did. That just about sums up David Moyes. He values doing the simple things like positional sense and running. Lots of running. He'll never value someone who can pass and move or beat a player. He wants ten Phil Nevilles on the pitch. That, is where we lost the game.
How many times have we beaten top opposition by more than a single goal in Moyes' reign?
Nick a goal then put men behind the ball and launch it back to them and prey.
Not good enough.
Let's assess that game objectively (I have only seen the game the once - couldn't bear to relive it). Spearing had a chance in the opening minutes. We got a flukey goal where our forward was partly offside anyway.
They missed a fair few chances and had more possession. Carroll should have scored with the header. They had numerous chances at 2-1. They also have a belief against us which we never have.
I read an article in the Guardian on Saturday where Darren Gibson says that Moyes makes him run a lot more than Ferguson ever did. That just about sums up David Moyes. He values doing the simple things like positional sense and running. Lots of running. He'll never value someone who can pass and move or beat a player. He wants ten Phil Nevilles on the pitch. That, is where we lost the game.
How many times have we beaten top opposition by more than a single goal in Moyes' reign?
Nick a goal then put men behind the ball and launch it back to them and prey.
Not good enough.
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Good post but I am at a loss to understand that bit.
If anything, the events of Tuesday night should have strengthened our hand, what with them reduced to having to ply a third choice keeper who looked suspect today on the rare occasion his goal was threatened.