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I can see the light, can anyone else?
38 Comments: I am not a great lover of Davey Moyes; personally, I wanted him to go and have for a long time. In saying that, I can also understand why people support him: limited budget,etc. Don't get me wrong, when he first came here and said all the right things, People's Club etc, I was made up. Had we found are very own Shankly? ? I wondered and hoped, but to me I couldn't see it.
Anyway I digress, I write this not to bash him, but in the hope he has seen the light. The light? ? you may ask, that is Fellaini...
Over the years under Davey, we have had the odd performance against the likes of Man City to name but one, and indeed at times played joined-up football. But a lot of it has been dour shite... Well, since the Swansea game, we have adopted a different system: Jelavic up front chases everything, giving the centre halves no time on the ball. (Saha, take note!)
Pienaar wide and Gueye or whoever on the other wing, apply pressure on the fullbacks and behind this in the hole or whatever you want to call it... Fellaini pulling the strings, his vision so high up the pitch it is awsome. He gathers it, trades it, passes and brings everyone into the game... and when he's in the box with the ball at his feet, he terrifies the opposition. Gibson and another behind Felli, in front of the back four, push up, as do our central defenders, Johnny and Distin/Jagielka. We are actualy playing football further up the pitch.
This to me started against Swansea, and we haven't looked back, save for the Wembley capitulation; I believe it's a winner and the way to go from now on.
In the past, I have mentioned we needed three big agressive midfielders; at the time, I suggested Johnny, Rodders and Fellaini. Now we have Gibson and Neville, behind Fellaini, with Johnny in defence. For me, I think Rodwell and Gibson behind Fellaini will be our best formation, though I don't mind, so long as Fellaini is kept behind the striker. Johnny and Gibbo, could do the job,or Nev... it makes no difference,
When Fellaini is in that position, Jelavic gets loads of chances and, as we know, will convert them. So I'm hoping that our manager has seen this as our way forward: attacking football, high up the pitch, with Fellaini majestic as he strides around the turf.
Come on, Davey, prove me wrong: stay in the light, be the man I hoped you were... please!
Robby Daniels, Posted 04/05/2012 at 13:23:42
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I remember a few seasons ago he played further forward for a while. he was doing well until he, or another player, got injured.
He looks far better up the pitch... but the problem has been, until Gibson signed, no-one has been an effective defensive midfielder.
He looks far better up the pitch... but the problem has been, until Gibson signed, no-one has been an effective defensive midfielder.
Tim,
Read it again, I don't say I love him again... as for fickle?
Listen mate, that's were he needs to play Felli every chance he gets... if he does that, then I'll be happy.
By the way, before the Swansea game G Neville told his brother, and Tim Cahill, to play further up the pitch!?! ? and they have more or less since.
Oh and while we're at it, should he persist with Cahill in that role when Gibson and Neville are fit, I'll be back on here giving it loads. :)
Read it again, I don't say I love him again... as for fickle?
Listen mate, that's were he needs to play Felli every chance he gets... if he does that, then I'll be happy.
By the way, before the Swansea game G Neville told his brother, and Tim Cahill, to play further up the pitch!?! ? and they have more or less since.
Oh and while we're at it, should he persist with Cahill in that role when Gibson and Neville are fit, I'll be back on here giving it loads. :)
I dont want Fellaini playing there full time even though he is doing a good job.If we have to play this system I would rather a creative forward play there.I think Fellaini is best played as a box to box midfielder and theres no reason when we're attacking he cant get in the box anyway,Gibson playing deep allows him the freedom to do so,I dont like having 2 players protecting the back 4.
There no doubt we have been playing better lately but I think the test to see if this is our new style of play or if Moyes reverts back into old habits will come against Newcastle.A team that always attacks,has been scoring a lot of goals and on top form (Wigan aside) with something to play for.
Will Moyes let them worry about us or will he be scared about what they could do to us?
There no doubt we have been playing better lately but I think the test to see if this is our new style of play or if Moyes reverts back into old habits will come against Newcastle.A team that always attacks,has been scoring a lot of goals and on top form (Wigan aside) with something to play for.
Will Moyes let them worry about us or will he be scared about what they could do to us?
I can see a flicker of light and it's the most excited I've been for a few seasons. However, it will definitely be diminished if we don't sign Pienaar and we really need someone else for the right wing. We have a core of quality players, Baines, Heitinga, Fellaini, Jelavic; but we need some other top players (Pienaar and 1 other) if we are to have any hope of winning a cup or qualifying for Europe next season.
I think the difference is Jelavic. Fellaini has played in the Cahill role and looked like a fish out of water, because the team did a Wimbledon impression. Now that there is an intelligent forward who moves defenders, and we are passing the ball, Fellaini is thriving.
I've often been extremely frustrated that Fellaini plays behind the striker as it seemed the reason he was there was so that we could hoof it up and have a big man to compete.
Against Man United he looked every inch the top class forward, playing on the half turn when it came into his feet, and bring any and everything down on his chest to play football in their third. It was an absolute revelation for someone I still believe is primarily a holding midfielder (ie that's the job he would be given at really top level Champions League type clubs).
Against Man United he looked every inch the top class forward, playing on the half turn when it came into his feet, and bring any and everything down on his chest to play football in their third. It was an absolute revelation for someone I still believe is primarily a holding midfielder (ie that's the job he would be given at really top level Champions League type clubs).
David, I think you are right: Jelavic has given the whole side something we didn't have with Saha.
Fellaini and him do look a handful together. Add in Pienaar, Gibson providing stability and a goal threat, it really starts looking better.
We are tight enough at the back, it's all about some balance to the right. Junior Hoillett would be a fantastic signing and we can offer him 1st team football that Spurs etc can't.
Fellaini and him do look a handful together. Add in Pienaar, Gibson providing stability and a goal threat, it really starts looking better.
We are tight enough at the back, it's all about some balance to the right. Junior Hoillett would be a fantastic signing and we can offer him 1st team football that Spurs etc can't.
How much though would we be talking for Junior Hoilett ? I would be looking at a couple of the Wigan lads too into the bargain. Problem is, Moyes is going to need to trade and I can seriously only see one outcome - Fellaini going out.
Hoillett is a compensation only Bosman because of his age. Hugo Rodellaga is on a free and would be worth a punt for nothing.
Fellaini does look a better player further forward. Maybe a natural replacement for Cahill behind Jelavic?
I like Gibson as defensive midfielder and, if we can get Pienaar back for good on the left, and maybe Donovan back for good on the right, and maybe encourage Barkley more in the middle, it starts to look a very good team.
I realise that is a lot of maybe's! One can hope though.
I like Gibson as defensive midfielder and, if we can get Pienaar back for good on the left, and maybe Donovan back for good on the right, and maybe encourage Barkley more in the middle, it starts to look a very good team.
I realise that is a lot of maybe's! One can hope though.
I would be extremely positive about our future and this team if only our club was in even a reasonable financial state.
Sadly we are not.
To plug the missing gap it is likely that Moyes will have to sell one of Fellaini/Baines/Jelavic/Heitinga this summer and then people will be surprised that we start poorly next season after having momentum stalled again by a shameful lack of financial support.
I hope i'm wrong but untill Moyes (or any future manager) can start looking at the summer in terms of which players he can bring in as opposed to which players is he going to lose then midtable is about the height of our aspiration.
Sadly we are not.
To plug the missing gap it is likely that Moyes will have to sell one of Fellaini/Baines/Jelavic/Heitinga this summer and then people will be surprised that we start poorly next season after having momentum stalled again by a shameful lack of financial support.
I hope i'm wrong but untill Moyes (or any future manager) can start looking at the summer in terms of which players he can bring in as opposed to which players is he going to lose then midtable is about the height of our aspiration.
Have said for years that Fellaini best as attacking midfielder but been shit down with most saying he's best as a holding midfielder. However disagree entirely that he should play just off jelavic, play Gibson with him and we need a sheringham type of player off him.
Dempsey about only one I could imagine us having a chance of getting. I remember years ago moyes identifying him, I think he would cost £1.5 m but it was January and we couldn't afford him til summer moyes asked him to wait but he signed for Gilgamesh instead
Dempsey about only one I could imagine us having a chance of getting. I remember years ago moyes identifying him, I think he would cost £1.5 m but it was January and we couldn't afford him til summer moyes asked him to wait but he signed for Gilgamesh instead
I've been a big Fellaini fan right from the start, even when he looked clumsy and it seemed couldn't go 5 minutes without being booked; there was something very classy about the guy when on the ball.
Since then, he's grown into the PL and looks more and more a complete midfielder and thereby lies the problem over his best position. He's had great games as a box-to-box man, but then looked great just in front of the back four. So much so I'd more or less convinced myself that was his best position with the more forward, almost second striker, role purely as a plan B option when we needed something different.
Now, as you say Robbie, playing just behind Jelavic he looks the real deal up there. I'd say a lot depends on which Tim Cahill turns up next season, but no doubt Fellaini is a class act wherever he ends up playing.
Since then, he's grown into the PL and looks more and more a complete midfielder and thereby lies the problem over his best position. He's had great games as a box-to-box man, but then looked great just in front of the back four. So much so I'd more or less convinced myself that was his best position with the more forward, almost second striker, role purely as a plan B option when we needed something different.
Now, as you say Robbie, playing just behind Jelavic he looks the real deal up there. I'd say a lot depends on which Tim Cahill turns up next season, but no doubt Fellaini is a class act wherever he ends up playing.
Why does any post on this site about the players just become a panegyric about Fellaini? The same people who cry out for good attacking football are the same people who wanted Arteta out, thought Pienaar had no end product, and think Fellaini is some form of demi-god.
We beat Sunderland 4-0 without both Fellaini and Jelavic. It has been the form of Osman and Pienaar that have improved our play along with Jelavic's goals. Pienaar has 7 assists and 3 goals since he arrived.
What sort of football do you expect us to play with a midfield 3 of Gibson, Neville and Fellaini? I mean seriously? Not an ounce of pace between them, absolutely no trickery or agility, and only Gibson can seemingly pass forward. This midfield is a far cry from the Arteta-Carsley axis.
People moan about not being entertained this year yet conveniently forget that Fellaini added to the dross of August to January, our 'world class' talent couldn't dominate a game, hardly scored any goals, and added to a woeful defensive record. He has to be one of the most boring players this season.
The same people who refuse to believe media hype about David Moyes are only too keen to lap it up when it's about Fellaini. Everyone also seems to have forgotten his part in the three surrenders to Liverpool... oh yeah, but he dominated Gerrard in that game one time ages back for Standard Liege didn't he...
None of the Chelsea fans want him and certainly not for £22 million, because you don't pay £22 million for a slow midfielder who poses as a box-to-box player with no long-passing range, no long-shooting accuracy, and no creativity.
What does Fellaini do in the advanced role that Kevin Davies couldn't do, or that Stracqualursi couldn't do? Since he arrived, we've played dour football just to accomodate his aerial prowess and monotonous one-paced negative passing. He sets the tempo of this team; before Pienaar arrived and mercifully took responsibility off him, it was slow and terrible.
Sooner he's out the better in my opinion. To think we could have had Tiote, Cabaye and Ben Arfa for less than he cost ? ridiculous purchase for a club in our financial situation.
We beat Sunderland 4-0 without both Fellaini and Jelavic. It has been the form of Osman and Pienaar that have improved our play along with Jelavic's goals. Pienaar has 7 assists and 3 goals since he arrived.
What sort of football do you expect us to play with a midfield 3 of Gibson, Neville and Fellaini? I mean seriously? Not an ounce of pace between them, absolutely no trickery or agility, and only Gibson can seemingly pass forward. This midfield is a far cry from the Arteta-Carsley axis.
People moan about not being entertained this year yet conveniently forget that Fellaini added to the dross of August to January, our 'world class' talent couldn't dominate a game, hardly scored any goals, and added to a woeful defensive record. He has to be one of the most boring players this season.
The same people who refuse to believe media hype about David Moyes are only too keen to lap it up when it's about Fellaini. Everyone also seems to have forgotten his part in the three surrenders to Liverpool... oh yeah, but he dominated Gerrard in that game one time ages back for Standard Liege didn't he...
None of the Chelsea fans want him and certainly not for £22 million, because you don't pay £22 million for a slow midfielder who poses as a box-to-box player with no long-passing range, no long-shooting accuracy, and no creativity.
What does Fellaini do in the advanced role that Kevin Davies couldn't do, or that Stracqualursi couldn't do? Since he arrived, we've played dour football just to accomodate his aerial prowess and monotonous one-paced negative passing. He sets the tempo of this team; before Pienaar arrived and mercifully took responsibility off him, it was slow and terrible.
Sooner he's out the better in my opinion. To think we could have had Tiote, Cabaye and Ben Arfa for less than he cost ? ridiculous purchase for a club in our financial situation.
James
I have to disagree with you over Fellaini, he was in the team during the shite we witnessed in the first half of the season but to be fair to him it looked like he wasn't allowed over the half-way line and couldn't contribute to the attacking play. He should be scoring more goals from set plays though.
I have to disagree with you over Fellaini, he was in the team during the shite we witnessed in the first half of the season but to be fair to him it looked like he wasn't allowed over the half-way line and couldn't contribute to the attacking play. He should be scoring more goals from set plays though.
James,
I don't know what a 'panegyric' means... talk in English.
It's 2am in Liverpool and I'm drunk, I'll respond tomorrow... but stop talking shite.
Fellaini's the best midfielder on the planet.
I don't know what a 'panegyric' means... talk in English.
It's 2am in Liverpool and I'm drunk, I'll respond tomorrow... but stop talking shite.
Fellaini's the best midfielder on the planet.
I agree with you James #843, except what you say about accomodating Fellaini's 'aerial prowess' as he doesn't possess any.
So many holes in James Martin's post, it's hard to know where to start.
Fellaini started the match v Sunderland ? you know, the one we scored 4 goals???
Fellaini started the match v United ? the one we scored 4 goals, and he was instrumental in that game.
Started the match v Fulham ? the one we scored 4 goals.
So to say we can't play attacking football with him in the team is a joke.
His job is to win the ball, recycle it, pass it on.
He should score more goals, that's one area he can improve on.
How could we have signed Ben Arfa, Cabaye and instead of Fellaini? They signed in different years!!! Also Ben Arfa was ?9 million on his own.
Fellaini started the match v Sunderland ? you know, the one we scored 4 goals???
Fellaini started the match v United ? the one we scored 4 goals, and he was instrumental in that game.
Started the match v Fulham ? the one we scored 4 goals.
So to say we can't play attacking football with him in the team is a joke.
His job is to win the ball, recycle it, pass it on.
He should score more goals, that's one area he can improve on.
How could we have signed Ben Arfa, Cabaye and instead of Fellaini? They signed in different years!!! Also Ben Arfa was ?9 million on his own.
James and Eric
I thought I saw Fellaini wallop in a header a couple of weeks back, one of a few this season.
I also though I saw him turn in an immense apperance against ManU the week before, scoring a fantastic first time volley and also picking out the overlapping Pienaar's run after holding up in the box.
Must've been mistaken, thanks for clearing that up.
I thought I saw Fellaini wallop in a header a couple of weeks back, one of a few this season.
I also though I saw him turn in an immense apperance against ManU the week before, scoring a fantastic first time volley and also picking out the overlapping Pienaar's run after holding up in the box.
Must've been mistaken, thanks for clearing that up.
I`ve always believed that when Moyes has the players available,he knows what to so with them. But because of our small squad he is too often required to play players away from their best positions.
So much is down to the form players show and we are all aware that certain of our guys `weren`t turning up` for some games before the New Year-particularly when asked to do jobs they didn`t fancy.
So much is down to the form players show and we are all aware that certain of our guys `weren`t turning up` for some games before the New Year-particularly when asked to do jobs they didn`t fancy.
Exactly Joe you are right, he scored one from a corner (was that his first corner goal of the season?) against Fulham and he volleyed home agianst Man U as well as playing in Pienaar. These are all fine things to do as a target man in the penalty area, but all of these could easily be done by a Peter Crouch, Kevin Davies type of player, I expect more from the 'best midfielder on the planet'. This style of play only works if you get the big man into the box and hit him with a long ball or play an intricate ball into his feet. If you're defending and you launch a counter attack however it gets you nowhere, Fellani can't run with the ball quickly or beat a man, instead he lays it off to someone else and waddles his way forward into the box. Fine when you're against a rubbish team or one that lets you play football,, but when you're against a team that runs all over you like Liverpool then you can't get out your own half. The teams with the best football don't play with a massive target man up front. Jelavic is a great striker and should be having a number 10 figure to play balls in behind for him, he shouldn't be having to anticipate flick ons or wait for 5 mins for Fellaini to get up in the box with him on a break. I'm not disputing that he may currently be the best option in that position if Moyes does play 4-5-1 but the football will not be good against the good teams with him there. I'm not even going to get into his failings as a centre mid. The image of him 'chasing' back after Fabregas is still ingrained on my mind. It saddens me that we used to have one of the premier league's best midfielders in Arteta (pre-injury), jinking runs, trickery, slide rule passes, wonderful free kick goals all done in an arrogant flair and style befitting of how everyone on this site presumabely likes the game to be played. It was worth going to Goodison just to see him. Instead I'm stuck with the reality of watching Fellaini and Gibson passing it slowly sideways to each other, or, if I'm really being entertained, Fellaini might move up as the big man and one of the exciting midfield magicians of Neville or Rodwell can come in.
Joe #897, Ossie and Hibbo have had a couple of good games this season as well wouldn't you say?
Although I will say Fellaini's passing the ball forwards has improved lately. He must have gotten the hang of it now..........after 4 years.
He should take some jumping lessons from Cahill though to have a chance to win some headers.
Although I will say Fellaini's passing the ball forwards has improved lately. He must have gotten the hang of it now..........after 4 years.
He should take some jumping lessons from Cahill though to have a chance to win some headers.
James,
Sober now, don't know why I drink... hurts like hell the next day!
Anyway, Fellaini can't run with the ball, can't beat a man... Really?!
Ask Bellamy what he thinks; you've just likened him to Kevin Davies? That's tosh... and you must know that....
He's a great midfielder and his control and movement is outstanding at times, he carries the ball up to the forwards playing one-twos as he goes... joined-up football, mate.
I haven't got the figures but I bet he covers more ground than any other Everton player on the pitch. Before Arteta left, he was passing sideways all the time...
It's a game of opinions I suppose, but I'm stunned at yours and Eric's view on him. He is world class.
Sober now, don't know why I drink... hurts like hell the next day!
Anyway, Fellaini can't run with the ball, can't beat a man... Really?!
Ask Bellamy what he thinks; you've just likened him to Kevin Davies? That's tosh... and you must know that....
He's a great midfielder and his control and movement is outstanding at times, he carries the ball up to the forwards playing one-twos as he goes... joined-up football, mate.
I haven't got the figures but I bet he covers more ground than any other Everton player on the pitch. Before Arteta left, he was passing sideways all the time...
It's a game of opinions I suppose, but I'm stunned at yours and Eric's view on him. He is world class.
There are more skilfull players but Fellaini is able to dominate games because he is everywhere and his ability to repeatedly win 50 50s and to disrupt the oppo is outstanding. The closest thing we've had recently was Tommy Gravesen in the period before he went to Madrid...totally dominant. Just wish he could have done it more.
Different kind of player to Arteta, James, but equally as influential i reckon.
Different kind of player to Arteta, James, but equally as influential i reckon.
Gravesen has so many more assets than Fellaini, pace, drive, creativity, dead ball ability, long range striking, that's why he went to Real Madrid.
Eric
I'd say Hibbert has been an excellent and consistent right back all season, and for one game outstanding at centre half.
Osman has been very good in quite a number of games this season.
What's your point?
I'd say Hibbert has been an excellent and consistent right back all season, and for one game outstanding at centre half.
Osman has been very good in quite a number of games this season.
What's your point?
The point is Joe, that anyone can have a good game now and then.
I don't think Fellaini has lived up to the hype of being 'world class' at all since he joined us but have noticed an improvement since Gibson joined so I hope it continues.
I don't think Fellaini has lived up to the hype of being 'world class' at all since he joined us but have noticed an improvement since Gibson joined so I hope it continues.
Eric
I watch my team home and away. I'm not entirely sure what 'world class' means but in pure logic terms if you play for your country then you're world class by definition (though you may not be he best at that level!). Same definition as a 'Premier League player, and I've seen some pants ones there. I'm not entirely sure either what hype you're referring to either.
We'll differ on our opinion of this particular player as personally I think he's our best player.
I watch my team home and away. I'm not entirely sure what 'world class' means but in pure logic terms if you play for your country then you're world class by definition (though you may not be he best at that level!). Same definition as a 'Premier League player, and I've seen some pants ones there. I'm not entirely sure either what hype you're referring to either.
We'll differ on our opinion of this particular player as personally I think he's our best player.
Eric
I watch my team home and away. I'm not entirely sure what 'world class' means but in pure logic terms if you play for your country then you're world class by definition (though you may not be he best at that level!). Same definition as a 'Premier League player, and I've seen some pants ones there. I'm not entirely sure either what hype you're referring to either.
We'll differ on our opinion of this particular player as personally I think he's our best player.
I watch my team home and away. I'm not entirely sure what 'world class' means but in pure logic terms if you play for your country then you're world class by definition (though you may not be he best at that level!). Same definition as a 'Premier League player, and I've seen some pants ones there. I'm not entirely sure either what hype you're referring to either.
We'll differ on our opinion of this particular player as personally I think he's our best player.
I dont get the Fellaini bashing, he may or may not be world class but he is adaptable and clearly one of our best players. I personally think his best position is defensive midfield because you get so much more than just defending, remember the pirouette tackle against Bellamy last year, class. And as for work rate you can not fault him, speed ? now there's a strange one, I was reading the Sunday Mail after the Man United game at home this year, and it gives some good statistics, guess who was clocked making the fasted run on that day? yep Fellaini 20+ MPH, and he was second only to Rooney for yards covered on the pitch, (Rooney played midfield that day)
He Is young, Versatile, and can score goals, give him a break. I suspect the manager makes him play in chains at times as he does with all our players, and that influences the comments on Toffeeweb.
He Is young, Versatile, and can score goals, give him a break. I suspect the manager makes him play in chains at times as he does with all our players, and that influences the comments on Toffeeweb.
i can't believe what i am hearing here. James, anybody who watches Everton can't seriously say that Felliani is overrated. He dictates our play. When nobody else can hold the ball, he can. He wins the ball, he rarely makes a stray pass. The comparison with Gravesen is puzzling. He was a bright light in a poor side as i remember. Had the Everton spirit but was not as good a player as Felliani , and considerably more experienced when we bought him. As i remember Real Madrid bought him as a midfield enforcer (what he never was, despite looks!) a lot of it was to do with him being on the cheap in January too.
Joe, the hype I'm referring to is how he is often called 'world class' so if the logical definition of world class is having played for your country I give you.................Victor Anichebe, our world class striker.
Will, yes Fellaini does cover a lot of ground on the pitch, but that's just it, he runs around a lot not doing anything. Watch him, and only him tonight and see what I mean (of course he'll have the best game of his carreer now I've said that though won't he - I hope so anyway)
Will, yes Fellaini does cover a lot of ground on the pitch, but that's just it, he runs around a lot not doing anything. Watch him, and only him tonight and see what I mean (of course he'll have the best game of his carreer now I've said that though won't he - I hope so anyway)
James (927) ha ha ha ha, funniest comment I've read so far today, Gravesen better than Felli, ha ha ha. Tommy had a good 12 months leading up to him going to RM, other than hat he was all over the place, and not in a good sense, he had no discipline at all and was often caught out of position, which cost us on a number of occasions.
Gravesen better than Felli, do me a favour !
Gravesen better than Felli, do me a favour !
Eric that was thr point I was making. The epithet 'world class' is entirely subjective and based on opinion until and unless you qualify it, which means that Anichebe plays at the world level. Doesn't make him any good.
John Shaw I agree completely. Tommy had one good season where he played to his potential in his entire career and that coincided when he played in a disciplined manner for the team. Most of the time he was a frustrating loon. Outside of that I remember him being outstanding in a game against United when he scored but we (I think) lost. Was still a cult figure but not in the way truly great players are.
John Shaw I agree completely. Tommy had one good season where he played to his potential in his entire career and that coincided when he played in a disciplined manner for the team. Most of the time he was a frustrating loon. Outside of that I remember him being outstanding in a game against United when he scored but we (I think) lost. Was still a cult figure but not in the way truly great players are.
Joe, and because Fellaini is given the epithet 'world class' by our fans, it doesn't make it so either.
Just seen the team for today: McRooney instead of Barkley, and Cahill back in his spot behind Jelavic... which means Fellaini plays at the back.....nice one, Davey.
What light is that?
Moyes is still here and still picking Osman and Cahill. So we won a few with goals and not before time but next season will be the same old Moyes with the same problems.
Where was the ambition in starting Mcfadden against Wolves and what a let down against the dregs of the division?
Sorry guys nothing has changed unless we sign back Peinaar permanent, Get some more speed and strength in midfield along with a class right back.
Be honest guys, persisting with the same squad who have started most games this season will not get us any higher than we are now.
Moyes is still here and still picking Osman and Cahill. So we won a few with goals and not before time but next season will be the same old Moyes with the same problems.
Where was the ambition in starting Mcfadden against Wolves and what a let down against the dregs of the division?
Sorry guys nothing has changed unless we sign back Peinaar permanent, Get some more speed and strength in midfield along with a class right back.
Be honest guys, persisting with the same squad who have started most games this season will not get us any higher than we are now.
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740 Posted 04/05/2012 at 16:43:41
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Your article makes it sound like Moyes does not have a clue, like he was moving players round on a board and stumbled over playing Fellaini behind the front man. In a poll a few months back, even a majority of ToffeeWeb supporters thought Cahill was the man for the job.
I would give Moyes more credit than that; he was the man who brought in Jelavic, he also brought in Fellaini, so I am sure he knows what he is doing. We might not agree with it all the time, but I am sure it is not by chance. He looks at different options in training and how people link up and he wants to win as much as we do. So, if it works and people are playing well, I would have confidence that he will keep making good decisions.