Season 2011-12
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Drenthe: The Rumours
103 Comments: Well, it looks like Royston Drenthe will never pull on an Everton shirt again, and to be honest I am not that arsed.
An absolutely terrible attitude off the pitch but he has given us some great goals and, for the first time for a few seasons, we have seen a player who could actually shoot and had phenomenal pace.
If there is one thing you have to admire Davey for, he does not take any shit. So maybe bringing Drenthe here was not a good decision in hindsight... but maybe at the time he was worth the gamble.
He has been a colourful character this season and given us all something to write about. But rumours have been flying about his behaviour; here are a couple I have heard:
The first thing he had built in his house when he got here was... A DISCO!!
He arrived late for the bus to Wembley, and told Moyes his car had broken down. As the bus drove away, his car was spotted parked around the corner!
Anybody else heard a good one?
Tony Cheek, Posted 05/05/2012 at 07:46:14
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He was worth the gamble but it didn't pay off, not because of Moyes as I am sure some will say, but because Drenthe will not change his ways.
He was frozen out by Madrid and given the chance at Everton to settle down and rebuild his career... Well he screwed that up and, as much as I liked him as a player, I am not too fussed if he never plays for us again now. His loss, not ours ? there are more Drenthe's out there with better attitudes!
He was frozen out by Madrid and given the chance at Everton to settle down and rebuild his career... Well he screwed that up and, as much as I liked him as a player, I am not too fussed if he never plays for us again now. His loss, not ours ? there are more Drenthe's out there with better attitudes!
I more or less agree, although if you've got money to burn and want a home disco then who am I to criticise.
The point about pace is the important one. Absolutely critical that we get someone pacey in, particularly given our tendency to 'park the bus' in difficult away games. Would love to get Lennon.
The point about pace is the important one. Absolutely critical that we get someone pacey in, particularly given our tendency to 'park the bus' in difficult away games. Would love to get Lennon.
You can give dickheads like him all the chances possible. but like Andy Van, they never change and always end up making the people who stuck up for them looking like fools.
Steve, Moyes didn't fancy Lennon when he was available from Leeds, to be honest he's fast but very little else.
If the car lie is true then that is poor. I think Royston has come to the right club, Moyes is able to handle him, but I doubt he is willing to.
I still feel that Royston should stay, given what he has done for us on the field.
However it would be wise of Drenthe to issue an apology.
I very much like Drenthe as a player, he has that spark in him which we lack in our team. His goals are worth the price of a half season ticket.
I just think there is too much speculation, and not enough facts in Drenthes case.
Moyes has dealt with similar things before so I hope to see Drenthe during the Wolves game.
I still feel that Royston should stay, given what he has done for us on the field.
However it would be wise of Drenthe to issue an apology.
I very much like Drenthe as a player, he has that spark in him which we lack in our team. His goals are worth the price of a half season ticket.
I just think there is too much speculation, and not enough facts in Drenthes case.
Moyes has dealt with similar things before so I hope to see Drenthe during the Wolves game.
Jimmy
I think we need a player like Drenthe but without the off field antics.He has burnt his bridges and will not be seen in an Everton shirt again.
I think we need a player like Drenthe but without the off field antics.He has burnt his bridges and will not be seen in an Everton shirt again.
Jimmy
How would you know his goals are worth half the price of a season ticket? It's certainly not worth half of what I pay every season. By my reckoning that's about £100 each and none of them crucial .
He was drinking in the last chance saloon (so to speak) when Moyes took a chance with him. For all his talent no-one else wanted to touch him with a barge pole given his history.
Sadly, Drenthe = Waste.
Get over it.
Anyway never mind, it's Chelsea 2 -0 Liverpool!!
How would you know his goals are worth half the price of a season ticket? It's certainly not worth half of what I pay every season. By my reckoning that's about £100 each and none of them crucial .
He was drinking in the last chance saloon (so to speak) when Moyes took a chance with him. For all his talent no-one else wanted to touch him with a barge pole given his history.
Sadly, Drenthe = Waste.
Get over it.
Anyway never mind, it's Chelsea 2 -0 Liverpool!!
Jimmy #972 I know you are his biggest fan, and all players have someone on here who will defend them to the hilt no matter what, and you are that contributor for Drenthe!
On the field he is very erratic. Capable of the sublime and ridiculous in the same passage of play. He has pace to burn, occasionally taking the ball with him, and an exocet of a shot on him. The negatives in his play are his decision-making, inability to track back when needed and a propensity to hit the deck easily. I can recall 2, maybe 3 occasions when he has cost us goals.
Off the pitch, whatever the true story, he has been an absolute disgrace. By all accounts he's had more than 1 chance, and not taken it. He's another in a long list of players that has unfulfilled talent, because he got too much too soon.
Everton is well renowned to have a close-knit dressing room, and pricks like that we don't need.
On the field he is very erratic. Capable of the sublime and ridiculous in the same passage of play. He has pace to burn, occasionally taking the ball with him, and an exocet of a shot on him. The negatives in his play are his decision-making, inability to track back when needed and a propensity to hit the deck easily. I can recall 2, maybe 3 occasions when he has cost us goals.
Off the pitch, whatever the true story, he has been an absolute disgrace. By all accounts he's had more than 1 chance, and not taken it. He's another in a long list of players that has unfulfilled talent, because he got too much too soon.
Everton is well renowned to have a close-knit dressing room, and pricks like that we don't need.
There's more chance of Bob Latchford making a comeback.
He would fit right in at villa.....
I don't get it.
The first thing I installed in my own house was a disco so what's the big deal?
Chelsea just about to lift the cup...shots of miserable RS...and I'm break-dancing...
The first thing I installed in my own house was a disco so what's the big deal?
Chelsea just about to lift the cup...shots of miserable RS...and I'm break-dancing...
Peddle him back to Madrid, I'd bet the guy will waste his career. Has the talent to be a really top player but sadly lacking anything up top to go with it, a real shame and a waste.
Howard #008, he's a free agent. Don't think Madrid want him back! They spent Eur 14m on him! We wasted a years wage, assuming we were paying the full amount.
If only Royston Drenthe where a fraction as good as he thinks he is. I have criticised Moyes in the past for not being able to deal with luxury players. Not this time. Drenthe is an over rated ,self inflated liability. A piece of shit who has scrounged of the club for long enough. Boot the fucker out and wish him a bit of ill will as he goes.
The tedious Drenthe bashing begins again. He was the 'saviour' after his match-winning displays against Blackpool and Fulham. Suddenly, because he let us down, he's not good enough.
Yes, his attitude is poor and he has shown a blatant disregard for the way the club works but that's nothing to do with his ability.
Look at our right side options, Osman, Anichebe (when fit) and Gueye or Coleman. I'd take Drenthe over the other four. Osman is the only one who is even a midfielder. People argue that Drenthe gave away goals against Liverpool and City but he's assisted 8 and scored a few so that cancels that out.
Osman has one league assist all season and played over 2,000 mins of football. Drenthe has 5 league assists in about half the playing attitude. Osman - Hibbert right sided partnership wasn't good enough in 2009, it certainly isn't good enough now.
Don't rubbish Drenthe's ability to justify the fact that we're losing a free agent due to his ill-discipline. He's talented and we could do with him. Right midfield has to be our priority; after signing Pienaar, of course.
He offers pace, the eye for a pass, the ability to take somebody on and a good shot from distance. Most of our other midfield options can only offer 1 or 2 of those things. Drenthe offers all 4.
Yes, his attitude is poor and he has shown a blatant disregard for the way the club works but that's nothing to do with his ability.
Look at our right side options, Osman, Anichebe (when fit) and Gueye or Coleman. I'd take Drenthe over the other four. Osman is the only one who is even a midfielder. People argue that Drenthe gave away goals against Liverpool and City but he's assisted 8 and scored a few so that cancels that out.
Osman has one league assist all season and played over 2,000 mins of football. Drenthe has 5 league assists in about half the playing attitude. Osman - Hibbert right sided partnership wasn't good enough in 2009, it certainly isn't good enough now.
Don't rubbish Drenthe's ability to justify the fact that we're losing a free agent due to his ill-discipline. He's talented and we could do with him. Right midfield has to be our priority; after signing Pienaar, of course.
He offers pace, the eye for a pass, the ability to take somebody on and a good shot from distance. Most of our other midfield options can only offer 1 or 2 of those things. Drenthe offers all 4.
I'll be sorry to see him go. He always tried for us on the field and his attacking play was thrilling at times. We'll never know what happened off the field but if that's the story its a real pity to lose so much potential that way.
There can't be many overpaid prem footballers who don't have something like a bar in their big house on the hill. But old pro mates of mine have always said that no matter what, kitted and ready to run ten o'clock sharp on the training ground was the first commandment, the one you never broke. If he really has gone, it couln't have been for the first offence.
There can't be many overpaid prem footballers who don't have something like a bar in their big house on the hill. But old pro mates of mine have always said that no matter what, kitted and ready to run ten o'clock sharp on the training ground was the first commandment, the one you never broke. If he really has gone, it couln't have been for the first offence.
So, he's a free agent so what?. Dick Barton was a Special Agent and he didn't get a fraction of the wages this one gets.
Talent he may well have - but nouse - fuck all!
Talent he may well have - but nouse - fuck all!
Drenthe has about 8 out of 10 in talent and about 2 for attitude. At an average of 5 that makes him not worth the wages in my books...Good luck elsewhere. Not sure i even mean that last part.
I heard that he turned up pissed at Finch Farm with a bunch of groupies in tow and Moyes done his nut
I never thought he was that good, has ability but he was no kanchelskis or limpar. I agree entirely with andy he was overrated. That judgment has nothing to do with his character off the pitch
Luke, it will be a sad day when Drenthe is the saviour. He is really not very good . Compare him to players other than the wide options we have, Average players with a bad attitude sum up all that is wrong with the premier league, Drenthe is a perfect example.
Worth a chance, not worth a chance? He's only going to cost wages as he's free! He has that spark. He costs us games. This debate will run and run. The facts are that he has been disciplned by the club and hasn't been seen since.
So with that in mind, unless he comes back into the fold tomorrow whilst there are injuries within the squad, then I'd imagine he's already been asked to leave the club.
Does anybody even know if he's still training? That would be a good indication of where this saga is heading. If after being disciplned he has returned to the club and knuckled down to prove his worth then fair enough, it shows he may still want to succeed here, but if ? as his past form suggests ? he's not around or is just half-arsed about it, then we all know the answer, I'd imagine?!?
So with that in mind, unless he comes back into the fold tomorrow whilst there are injuries within the squad, then I'd imagine he's already been asked to leave the club.
Does anybody even know if he's still training? That would be a good indication of where this saga is heading. If after being disciplned he has returned to the club and knuckled down to prove his worth then fair enough, it shows he may still want to succeed here, but if ? as his past form suggests ? he's not around or is just half-arsed about it, then we all know the answer, I'd imagine?!?
Not convinced about the car rumour.
Assuming the team left from Finch Farm Drenthe's car (to be parked around the corner) would have to have been under the bushes lining a single track road or if it was the next corner, on a clearway feeding onto the Fordy.
Nah!
Assuming the team left from Finch Farm Drenthe's car (to be parked around the corner) would have to have been under the bushes lining a single track road or if it was the next corner, on a clearway feeding onto the Fordy.
Nah!
I thought this bloke was too good for us when he turned up and I hoped the shite wouldn't come and outbid us for him on the wages, after what he's been up to this year I pray, I mean I pray, that the rumours about the LFC Pre-contract are true..!
I really am a fan of attacking exiting football, and having Drenthe got my heart beating again and watching Drenthe I felt like there was something to look forward to.again. Not since Rooney have I felt like that!
However bitter I am of him missing out on training and then the semi-final I still feel there is enough in Drenthe to at least TRY and teach him to be a perfect player.
The fact that he is young and on a free makes it clear to me that we at least must try with him at least the same way we have tried with Anichebe.
Anichebe has also had episodes with Moyes, yet he is still here, despite the fact that he possesses no real talent and he has been afforded more time to shine then any other player here.
Forgiveness is important too, just look at Tevez and the comeback he has made since coming back from hell and flames.
We can not afford to spend millions, that is why we can not be selective and say no thanks to a player with Drenthes talent.
He is worth the try because his re-sale value will benefit this club even if things do not work out in the end.
In my opinion saying no to Drenthe is the same as saying no to at least 5 million, things could work out even better because Moyes is the best teacher to teach Drenthe how to be a real professional.
Remember Drenthe came to Real Madrid as a kid really and he struggled to adapt.
Here at Everton he showed signs early in the season that got praise even from David Moyes himself, his willingness to train, and fit in was there for all to see.
The fact that he has gone trough much of the season without incident tells me that this family problem of his affected him in a major way.
As humans we are all faulty so I find it strange that some people on here can take the moral high ground so easily.
Only one exception to all this, if he has signed a contract with the red shites.
However bitter I am of him missing out on training and then the semi-final I still feel there is enough in Drenthe to at least TRY and teach him to be a perfect player.
The fact that he is young and on a free makes it clear to me that we at least must try with him at least the same way we have tried with Anichebe.
Anichebe has also had episodes with Moyes, yet he is still here, despite the fact that he possesses no real talent and he has been afforded more time to shine then any other player here.
Forgiveness is important too, just look at Tevez and the comeback he has made since coming back from hell and flames.
We can not afford to spend millions, that is why we can not be selective and say no thanks to a player with Drenthes talent.
He is worth the try because his re-sale value will benefit this club even if things do not work out in the end.
In my opinion saying no to Drenthe is the same as saying no to at least 5 million, things could work out even better because Moyes is the best teacher to teach Drenthe how to be a real professional.
Remember Drenthe came to Real Madrid as a kid really and he struggled to adapt.
Here at Everton he showed signs early in the season that got praise even from David Moyes himself, his willingness to train, and fit in was there for all to see.
The fact that he has gone trough much of the season without incident tells me that this family problem of his affected him in a major way.
As humans we are all faulty so I find it strange that some people on here can take the moral high ground so easily.
Only one exception to all this, if he has signed a contract with the red shites.
We could have done with him in the semi final. A good manager would have used him and we may have won the game- and then dealt with disciplinary issues after the match. But Dreary isnt a good manager . He would rather cut his nose off to spite his face and harm the club's semi final chances at the same time.
IN MOYES WE RUST.
IN MOYES WE RUST.
He turned up "under the influence" for training (his job), giving David Moyes no alternative but to bin him.
In addition to that, it would seem he plays football for "pocket money" as his family (meaning him also) is very wealthy. I know that shouldn't affect things, as footballer's are paid megabucks anyway but I guess a lifetime of having things on a plate has affected his outlook.
You can't do anything about someone who basically doesn't give a fuck! It's a shame, but it's a no brainer!
In addition to that, it would seem he plays football for "pocket money" as his family (meaning him also) is very wealthy. I know that shouldn't affect things, as footballer's are paid megabucks anyway but I guess a lifetime of having things on a plate has affected his outlook.
You can't do anything about someone who basically doesn't give a fuck! It's a shame, but it's a no brainer!
Its a sign of how desperate we are to even think someone with that kind of attitude is worthy of the shirt. At the first whisper of his shenanigans I thought, hey ho looks like we've found another Andy van der Drunk.
If the idiot had kept his nose clean for just a short while he could done as Andy did and robbed the club blind for four years.
If the idiot had kept his nose clean for just a short while he could done as Andy did and robbed the club blind for four years.
Jimmy?
You hope to see him at Wolves? I would rather see Barkley or McFadden by a long shot and am far more likely to. I'd rather see Barkley because he's highly rated and I'd rather see McFadden because, of late, he's shown some nice touches (at Old Trafford) and I would like us to give him a new contract albeit one on low wages.
As for Drenthe, he allegedly messed us about in the lead to the semi so fuck him. I don't want to see him in blue ever again.
You hope to see him at Wolves? I would rather see Barkley or McFadden by a long shot and am far more likely to. I'd rather see Barkley because he's highly rated and I'd rather see McFadden because, of late, he's shown some nice touches (at Old Trafford) and I would like us to give him a new contract albeit one on low wages.
As for Drenthe, he allegedly messed us about in the lead to the semi so fuck him. I don't want to see him in blue ever again.
Andy Crooks,
Why should we compare Drenthe to players but not the ones we have - we don't have that luxury. He's our best option for the right of midfield and by some distance.
He's got ability, until Pienaar showed up, he had the most league assists in the squad despite barely playing and he was also our joint top scorer at one point.
Yes, his attitude stinks to high heaven and for that reason, we should let him go. If it was purely a football decision, we'd be mad to let him go.
Feel free to elaborate on why he isn't very good. The stats suggest he's made a great impact in the short time he's been used - much like Donovan did.
Why should we compare Drenthe to players but not the ones we have - we don't have that luxury. He's our best option for the right of midfield and by some distance.
He's got ability, until Pienaar showed up, he had the most league assists in the squad despite barely playing and he was also our joint top scorer at one point.
Yes, his attitude stinks to high heaven and for that reason, we should let him go. If it was purely a football decision, we'd be mad to let him go.
Feel free to elaborate on why he isn't very good. The stats suggest he's made a great impact in the short time he's been used - much like Donovan did.
If you can't rely on somebody then get rid. He was only good sometimes anyway. If you cut him too much slack the whole unit has had it.
He was hardly George Best was he....
He was hardly George Best was he....
He was a very good player that gave the ball away because he took risks and you need that type of player. You can't have a squad full of reliable players that don't do anything special; you need different types. I accepted the goals he cost us beacuse he made us so much more but he is a tit off the pitch, which changes things.
He's not an Everton player. He got sacked weeks ago. Move on!
Luke, here's the good points. His shot of a short back lift reminds me of Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank, in other words brilliant. Lightening pace, which we lack. Confidence and arrogance (fuck me I'm arguing against myself)
Down side. Constantly trying to prove himself, A lack of vision. losing the ball in positions which create opportunities for the opposition. Liable to be sent off in any game. A complete and utter inability to win a ball without giving away a free kick.
Luke, I could accept any of the downside if he wasn't a useless fucker off the pitch. He has, in my view, pace without guile. I see your point, though, that he represents an affordable example of what we need. Not for me, though.
Down side. Constantly trying to prove himself, A lack of vision. losing the ball in positions which create opportunities for the opposition. Liable to be sent off in any game. A complete and utter inability to win a ball without giving away a free kick.
Luke, I could accept any of the downside if he wasn't a useless fucker off the pitch. He has, in my view, pace without guile. I see your point, though, that he represents an affordable example of what we need. Not for me, though.
The guy's a fuckin' prick! Just look at him! I said that exact same thing when he first signed... he's a wannabe Snoop Dog, Jay Zee ... and apparently he's got a load of his hang-on mates with him living in Liverpool... I guess that's the reason why he's getting pissed every night.
Fuck him... he's got ability but if he can't be arsed, he can't be arsed... I bet Ballotelli turns up to training on time.
Fuck him... he's got ability but if he can't be arsed, he can't be arsed... I bet Ballotelli turns up to training on time.
He was fine until the likes of Osman and Coleman were getting in the team ahead of him and he was stuck on the bench!
I don't blame him for losing interest with Moyes as none of Moyes's 'clicks' would even get a trial for Real Madrid.
I don't blame him for losing interest with Moyes as none of Moyes's 'clicks' would even get a trial for Real Madrid.
Jimmy #064, seeing as you put it Drenthe vs Anichebe it's no contest, Drenthe every day of the week.
I'm stunned at the people who seem to want to justify his behavior based on pace and a couple of decent goals.
He was doing fuck all at Madrid, given a chance at the greatest club in the world, and proceeded to shit over everyone.
To play him again, let alone sign him, would be a disgrace to Dean, Ball, Labone, Ratcliffe etc.
He was doing fuck all at Madrid, given a chance at the greatest club in the world, and proceeded to shit over everyone.
To play him again, let alone sign him, would be a disgrace to Dean, Ball, Labone, Ratcliffe etc.
Besides his on pitch skill and off pitch piss ups there is a third factor. How well would a guy like him fit in with the other players? Since Moyes took over one of the most positive points has been the closeness of the squad. A group of hard working, if not dazzlingly stylish, players who work for each other. In many ways the model of professional footballers. Then this guy rocks up, from Real Madrid no less, with a reputation for being equally brilliant and a pain in the arse. How would you feel at work if you turn up every day, on time, put in your shift only to see some bloke swan in late, potentially drunk and get off scott free?
Having seen him on the pitch take a bollocking from Neville, argue with Baines over taking free kicks and generally winding up the management with a liberal attitude towards defending< I cant see him fitting in. A potentially devisive figure within a larger group.
It could be argued that it would be preferable that we have a squad of players with Drenthe ability where he would fit in better. But we dont.
In one match he was lucky to stay on the pitch. Already booked, after conceding a free kick he picked up the ball and belted it into the stands. Luckily for him the rf was engaged at the other end of the pitch, but the linesman had a long chat just after, ref took no action. A liability with undoubted potential, but at odds with the rest of the squad? He and Carrol can have a whale of a time on the piss, no loss to us.
Having seen him on the pitch take a bollocking from Neville, argue with Baines over taking free kicks and generally winding up the management with a liberal attitude towards defending< I cant see him fitting in. A potentially devisive figure within a larger group.
It could be argued that it would be preferable that we have a squad of players with Drenthe ability where he would fit in better. But we dont.
In one match he was lucky to stay on the pitch. Already booked, after conceding a free kick he picked up the ball and belted it into the stands. Luckily for him the rf was engaged at the other end of the pitch, but the linesman had a long chat just after, ref took no action. A liability with undoubted potential, but at odds with the rest of the squad? He and Carrol can have a whale of a time on the piss, no loss to us.
What people don't realise is that most of the best players in the world have been known to have bad off-field attitudes. If they perform on the pitch, that is the most important thing.
The example that stands out for me is Mancini with Tevez. In my opinion, what Tevez did in Munich is one of the worst things a footballer has ever done, and it wasn't a off-field infraction. Mancini said he'd never let Tevez play for the club again. Eventually he got over himself and worked it out, and now City have closed an eight point gap and are odds on to win the title.
If our club never has any players that are a little eccentric, we can be safe in the knowledge that all the problems we have on and off the field will continue or get worse.
The example that stands out for me is Mancini with Tevez. In my opinion, what Tevez did in Munich is one of the worst things a footballer has ever done, and it wasn't a off-field infraction. Mancini said he'd never let Tevez play for the club again. Eventually he got over himself and worked it out, and now City have closed an eight point gap and are odds on to win the title.
If our club never has any players that are a little eccentric, we can be safe in the knowledge that all the problems we have on and off the field will continue or get worse.
......."He has pace to burn, occasionally taking the ball with him,"
Heh heh .. love it!
Heh heh .. love it!
What pace? His legs were too little to take decent strides. He was quicker than what we've got but it wasn't as if he had pace to burn or you ever got the feeling that he could actually beat a man. Even Jo was skillful in the warm up!!!
He's like Bellamy; looks quick when he comes on with 30 minutes to go and the opposition full back is tiring. Didn't score enough goals and his attitude was shocking. Not only that but he was isolating Baines and leaving him 2 against 1 a lot of the time. Good riddance I say, but I do wonder what's happened to Vellios?
He's like Bellamy; looks quick when he comes on with 30 minutes to go and the opposition full back is tiring. Didn't score enough goals and his attitude was shocking. Not only that but he was isolating Baines and leaving him 2 against 1 a lot of the time. Good riddance I say, but I do wonder what's happened to Vellios?
Watching Drenthe play there was no middle ground.
You were either on the edge of your seat as he beat three defenderes, or sitting with your head in your hands as he gave the ball away cheaply.
If he could behave then i would love him to be around next season as i think he would bring some unpedictability to the team in games when we need it.
however, it appears he is disruptive and therefore we cant afford to take the risk. Plus if he did misbehave before the semi with liverpool then that cannot be forgiven.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, dont want him back. Lets move on and see if we can get someone else to play on the right hand side.
You were either on the edge of your seat as he beat three defenderes, or sitting with your head in your hands as he gave the ball away cheaply.
If he could behave then i would love him to be around next season as i think he would bring some unpedictability to the team in games when we need it.
however, it appears he is disruptive and therefore we cant afford to take the risk. Plus if he did misbehave before the semi with liverpool then that cannot be forgiven.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, dont want him back. Lets move on and see if we can get someone else to play on the right hand side.
@Eric Myles Drenthe vs Anichebe it's no contest,
Are thuere any stats to show who's spent the longest sitting on his arse on the pitch while play continued around him?
Are thuere any stats to show who's spent the longest sitting on his arse on the pitch while play continued around him?
Roman, re. 'What people don't realise is that most of the best players in the world have been known to have bad off-field attitudes' -
Simply not true. We could name many that do, but likewise more that don?t. And of those that do, to the regularity of Drenthe? he has managed to get himself sent back home in less than a season, at a time when he should be proving himself to us and potential buyers. Even 100 clubs clubs Anelka generally waits for longer before pissing people off, and he is a better player than Drenthe (or was). Players with too many off the field antics, inevitably ruin parts of their career or/and never reach potential and become a liability for those they play for. As an example, too many Brazilian players have gone off the rails, when they had potential to be leading players in the world. Adriano could have been a top top striker, and fucked it up. Ronaldinho, one of the greatest players of our era, should have been at the top of his game for much much longer. And potentially, even the greatest Brazilian of our age, Ronaldo(and ever?), should have played more seasons at the top of his game, but hasn?t for well documented reasons. Drenthe won?t just this list of course, because he has not had one consistently great season. He will join the one with Pennant and Barton and the likes, who may possibly have had better careers if they could have rectified their attitudes.
On top of that, discipline is a necessity. It is not just Moyes who would have chucked him; Mourinho and Ferguson would have done the same. When players think they are bigger than the manager and the club, there are issues. Chelski's players force managers out, stroop under certain managers etc etc. This is good for no one.
Re. your Tevez example, there are many more ramifications for their title turn around. Tevez is a great player, and it is alot easier to score goals and make an impact as a striker in the highest scoring prem team of the season (And ever?) when you are fresher than your teammates and opponents, and have spent the season resting. Maybe if Tevez hadn't acted up, or City had replaced him in Jan with Cavani or Lavezzi, City would already have the title now? A major difference between Tevez and Drenthe of course, is that Tevez cost over 25mil, and Drenthe came on a free after failing to light up the world, despite incredible potential a few seasons ago. He came on a free because
1) of his attitude
2) his inconsistent ability.
I really like his play, but wide men cannot give the ball away as much as him, unless they are Ronaldo or Robben. He is brilliant in some games, and pointless in others. If he will not learn, and disrespect the club and the fans with his attitude, then he does not deserve to wear our shirt.
Drenthe will likely go back to Holland next year, and start brilliantly. Despite playing in a vastly inferior league, where even the likes of Alves and Kuyt can score practically every game, we will get a post or two on here, criticising Moyes for letting him go. Maybe it will compel a move to a bigger club again, or maybe the wheels will come off within a year. But the wheels will come off, because Drenthe is one of those players who places himself because the club, fans and teammates. His attitude ruined him at him for Madrid, it ruined it for him at Hercules, and it ruined it for him here. There is only one person to blame for his reputation and antics at all three clubs.
Simply not true. We could name many that do, but likewise more that don?t. And of those that do, to the regularity of Drenthe? he has managed to get himself sent back home in less than a season, at a time when he should be proving himself to us and potential buyers. Even 100 clubs clubs Anelka generally waits for longer before pissing people off, and he is a better player than Drenthe (or was). Players with too many off the field antics, inevitably ruin parts of their career or/and never reach potential and become a liability for those they play for. As an example, too many Brazilian players have gone off the rails, when they had potential to be leading players in the world. Adriano could have been a top top striker, and fucked it up. Ronaldinho, one of the greatest players of our era, should have been at the top of his game for much much longer. And potentially, even the greatest Brazilian of our age, Ronaldo(and ever?), should have played more seasons at the top of his game, but hasn?t for well documented reasons. Drenthe won?t just this list of course, because he has not had one consistently great season. He will join the one with Pennant and Barton and the likes, who may possibly have had better careers if they could have rectified their attitudes.
On top of that, discipline is a necessity. It is not just Moyes who would have chucked him; Mourinho and Ferguson would have done the same. When players think they are bigger than the manager and the club, there are issues. Chelski's players force managers out, stroop under certain managers etc etc. This is good for no one.
Re. your Tevez example, there are many more ramifications for their title turn around. Tevez is a great player, and it is alot easier to score goals and make an impact as a striker in the highest scoring prem team of the season (And ever?) when you are fresher than your teammates and opponents, and have spent the season resting. Maybe if Tevez hadn't acted up, or City had replaced him in Jan with Cavani or Lavezzi, City would already have the title now? A major difference between Tevez and Drenthe of course, is that Tevez cost over 25mil, and Drenthe came on a free after failing to light up the world, despite incredible potential a few seasons ago. He came on a free because
1) of his attitude
2) his inconsistent ability.
I really like his play, but wide men cannot give the ball away as much as him, unless they are Ronaldo or Robben. He is brilliant in some games, and pointless in others. If he will not learn, and disrespect the club and the fans with his attitude, then he does not deserve to wear our shirt.
Drenthe will likely go back to Holland next year, and start brilliantly. Despite playing in a vastly inferior league, where even the likes of Alves and Kuyt can score practically every game, we will get a post or two on here, criticising Moyes for letting him go. Maybe it will compel a move to a bigger club again, or maybe the wheels will come off within a year. But the wheels will come off, because Drenthe is one of those players who places himself because the club, fans and teammates. His attitude ruined him at him for Madrid, it ruined it for him at Hercules, and it ruined it for him here. There is only one person to blame for his reputation and antics at all three clubs.
Jim Knightley great post
As an aside on the Drenthe vs Anichebe thing and just to throw a cat in the pigeons....
...Anichebe has scored 6 goals in 16 appearances this season vs 4 in 27 for Drenthe.
Anichebe has also provided match winning/point winning contributions.
Just saying like
...Anichebe has scored 6 goals in 16 appearances this season vs 4 in 27 for Drenthe.
Anichebe has also provided match winning/point winning contributions.
Just saying like
Also as a point to Anichebe......... we know he's crap so when he does something that's worth shouting about then it's a big deal. Drenthe flattered to deceive.
He doesn't play for Everton so why even have this conversation?
He doesn't play for Everton so why even have this conversation?
How about a fresh potential rumour? Let's say Drenthe DID sign a pre agreement with Liverpool and that's where he wants to go. How does that work if Everton have a first dibs on Drenthe with Real? May be Moyes was angry about that?
...Turning up late and drunk for training sounds the most likely answer.
...Turning up late and drunk for training sounds the most likely answer.
I bet some of our players who read this must be shaking their heads dying to throw a thread in on the truth, don't you think the likes of Neville an Co were questioned on the decision? I bet they all wanted shut of the prick too, they know the truth and more no doubt and no doubt it shall come out in time.
I have stuck up for the little fucker on here many a time due to all the shite about him having to defend more being spread across the back pages of the Echo, but the lad has had his chance. I saw him with his hangers-on before the WBA game and cringed as he walked past, the lot of them just looked like trouble and obviously that's where the problem is ? not Moyes abiding to club rules; let people constantly break them and you're fucked.
I have stuck up for the little fucker on here many a time due to all the shite about him having to defend more being spread across the back pages of the Echo, but the lad has had his chance. I saw him with his hangers-on before the WBA game and cringed as he walked past, the lot of them just looked like trouble and obviously that's where the problem is ? not Moyes abiding to club rules; let people constantly break them and you're fucked.
I'll be very surprised if any of our players do read this
Jim Knightley, all opinion. I almost put Ronaldinho in my original post, but didn't because of the fact that his attitude apparently improved at Barcelona after being notorious at PSG.
At the end of the day, it's irrelevant as Moyes has obviously ended and issue of Drenthe and Everton. I think the difference for some of us is that it's highly disappointing that, yet again, our club/manager can't put up with anyone who isn't 100% pure and non-egotistical (talk about double standards from Moyes).
Jim, without researching the stats, I'd generalise that the players you mentioned, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho, won titles in about half of the seasons they've played as professionals, not to mention World Cups and Ballon D'Ors to boot.
If we continue to have a team of Jagielkas and Nevilles, then, as I said, our club will go backwards. At the start of the season, Drenthe was a breath of fresh air, and a small opiate for what was otherwise a dreadful summer and season opening.
Joe Clitherow, if you think that 6 goals in 16 games this season means that Anichebe a better player then Drenthe, then I pose these figures to you:
Drenthe - left back/winger - 138 games - 12 goals.
Anichebe - centre forward - 135 games - 18 goals.
At the end of the day, it's irrelevant as Moyes has obviously ended and issue of Drenthe and Everton. I think the difference for some of us is that it's highly disappointing that, yet again, our club/manager can't put up with anyone who isn't 100% pure and non-egotistical (talk about double standards from Moyes).
Jim, without researching the stats, I'd generalise that the players you mentioned, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho, won titles in about half of the seasons they've played as professionals, not to mention World Cups and Ballon D'Ors to boot.
If we continue to have a team of Jagielkas and Nevilles, then, as I said, our club will go backwards. At the start of the season, Drenthe was a breath of fresh air, and a small opiate for what was otherwise a dreadful summer and season opening.
Joe Clitherow, if you think that 6 goals in 16 games this season means that Anichebe a better player then Drenthe, then I pose these figures to you:
Drenthe - left back/winger - 138 games - 12 goals.
Anichebe - centre forward - 135 games - 18 goals.
I don't know so much Chris, curiosity says they would be tempted, I bet Neville has and even the Manager says a few comments on what fans think of him with his dithering Dave comments etc, certainly Prentice and co are forever having a nose, although Prentice said he found it tediously negative.
Paul #175 I agree, it's almost certain a few of them do read. A few are forever on twatter, so no reason why they shouldn't pop on here to cheer themselves up from time to time.
We know a few journos have been on. I've seen people quoted from here in The Mirror, and one of the more respected journalists, Brian Reade, has actually penned an article.
The players mainly read on here and don't post, but those that do post use pseudonyms obviously. If you read back you can probably work out some of them.
We know a few journos have been on. I've seen people quoted from here in The Mirror, and one of the more respected journalists, Brian Reade, has actually penned an article.
The players mainly read on here and don't post, but those that do post use pseudonyms obviously. If you read back you can probably work out some of them.
So Matt, what you're saying is, Richard Dodd IS Phil Neville?
Roman, I'm aware of Ronaldo's and Ronaldinho's record, which is why I described Ronaldo as potentially the best Brazilian player ever, and Ronaldinho as one of the best of our age. My point is that when players like these waste the end of careers it is one thing, but Drenthe cannot compare. He has never reached the standards of the former players, or even approached them, but has at 25, ruined careers at three clubs with his attitude. The clubs all can't be wrong can they? He is a player with some great skill, over-hyped because of his ability to make an elaborate impact. If he had spent his career training hard, with the right attitude, I think he could have become a really super player. But now, in 20 years, I don't think anyone will remember him. At least for the right reasons anyway.
With respect to the Jags and Neville's you mentioned, every team needs those. We also did pretty well with the more skillfull Pienarr (who has his own off field problems no? unless we want to ignore those) and Donovan, and I am sure with money, we could have constructed a team with reliability and flair, without having to deal with over-hyped players with bad attitudes like Drenthe.
With respect to the Jags and Neville's you mentioned, every team needs those. We also did pretty well with the more skillfull Pienarr (who has his own off field problems no? unless we want to ignore those) and Donovan, and I am sure with money, we could have constructed a team with reliability and flair, without having to deal with over-hyped players with bad attitudes like Drenthe.
Flair players are match winners and we dont have any on our books. Forget Drenthe, he is too much trouble, but we deserately need that type of player, at least one.
Is Dave Wilson really Anichebe? ha ha ha
I know he's likely to be a liability, but he's got a gold tooth and is like a modern day George Best. How come City aren't in for him, they like iffy players on 200k a week. He could host Cream (showing me age) in his front room, though I'd be in the kitchen with Paul Bleasdale.
Fuck me, this was BEFORE we signed him.
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/royston-drenthe-liverpool-should-read-this-before-signing-evertons-real-madrid-loanee/
(hard to say we weren't warned)
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/royston-drenthe-liverpool-should-read-this-before-signing-evertons-real-madrid-loanee/
(hard to say we weren't warned)
Bringing back memories there Simon,spotting the Cream first timers in their light coloured jeans and laugh on the way out as there caked upto the knees in piss and shite.How could such a shithole be such a great night out.
I think that Tony Marsh is really Kenny Dalglish.....
Drenthe simply wasn't good enough, regardless of his attitude. He didn't fit anywhere and had no clue how to help his team out. Sure he could hammer a shot or run at defenders when they were tired and he'd just come on, but it doesn't make up for the fact that he can't tackle, can't play well for 90 minutes, can't track back, was stopping Baines running on, can't play for the team and can't keep to the club rules.
So, farewell Royston, your career will be looked upon as a "could have" been player. He could have been great but had other things going on a la Collymore et al
So, farewell Royston, your career will be looked upon as a "could have" been player. He could have been great but had other things going on a la Collymore et al
Remember Patrick Kluivert? Awesome as a young player, fame went to him, never fulfilled his potential. Reckon Drenthe is similar, just never made it to the top before crashing and burning.
For whatever reason Moyes fell out with Drenthe you can almost guarantee it would be something insignificant to most, something like giggling when Moyes is having a team talk.
The reason why we have had a shit season is down to Moyes yet there is llways this underlying sense of an excuse or a focal point for everyone to focus there fustrations on. For some, that is Drenthe. He didn't track back... hardly crime of the season.
The reason why we have had a shit season is down to Moyes yet there is llways this underlying sense of an excuse or a focal point for everyone to focus there fustrations on. For some, that is Drenthe. He didn't track back... hardly crime of the season.
I've heard he's been seen in Van der Meyde's old property recently on the Wirral. Maybe he's looking to stay local even if he leaves and maybe he is going to Liverpool!
You were all wrong... the real reason he was left out of the squad was Davey came home one day and found him in bed with Morag!!
Richard Reeves #210.
Richard. He turned up under the influence of alcohol for training.
FFS if someone turns up to their job under the influence does a manager have any choice????
If you want to have a go at Moyes find something that merits having a go at him.
Nothing to do with Drenthe not tracking back!
He had personal problems and was given all the assistance and leaway that could be given with regards to that, and he basically took the piss....
Richard. He turned up under the influence of alcohol for training.
FFS if someone turns up to their job under the influence does a manager have any choice????
If you want to have a go at Moyes find something that merits having a go at him.
Nothing to do with Drenthe not tracking back!
He had personal problems and was given all the assistance and leaway that could be given with regards to that, and he basically took the piss....
Brian,
I didn't know he turned up for training under the influence of alcohol. The last I heard was that Moyes was not going to discuss the matter.
Fair enough, if that is the truth then Moyes has every right to send him packing but you say, does a manager have any choice? That depends on how good or valuable the player is... If Rooney turned up with a granny on one arm, four cans of Stella in the other and a spliff hanging from his chops, I don't think the answer would be so simple.
The fact that Drenthe didn't track back and was a bit cavalier did him no favours, so he is not worth giving a second chance. For all I know, and his track record seems to suggest this, he could be the type who does what he wants and brings trouble wherever he goes.... but Moyes goes over the top in my opinion. If he was so pissed off, why didn't he just say what happened with a straight face, kick him out the door and move on? It's just one player, so what? Anyone would think he came into training with a gun (or a knife) by the way Moyes reacted to questioning.
I didn't know he turned up for training under the influence of alcohol. The last I heard was that Moyes was not going to discuss the matter.
Fair enough, if that is the truth then Moyes has every right to send him packing but you say, does a manager have any choice? That depends on how good or valuable the player is... If Rooney turned up with a granny on one arm, four cans of Stella in the other and a spliff hanging from his chops, I don't think the answer would be so simple.
The fact that Drenthe didn't track back and was a bit cavalier did him no favours, so he is not worth giving a second chance. For all I know, and his track record seems to suggest this, he could be the type who does what he wants and brings trouble wherever he goes.... but Moyes goes over the top in my opinion. If he was so pissed off, why didn't he just say what happened with a straight face, kick him out the door and move on? It's just one player, so what? Anyone would think he came into training with a gun (or a knife) by the way Moyes reacted to questioning.
Nice to see a person being convicted on rumour.
Genuine talent. Pity Moyes doesn't appear to be able to handle him.
Genuine talent. Pity Moyes doesn't appear to be able to handle him.
Except, Ciarán, he hasn't been 'convicted' on rumour. His employer has apparently terminated his loan agreement based on information to which you and I are not privy. Speculation on these pages is irrelevant and people's opinions are just that.
Moyes does not appear able to handle him, but you can add plenty of other coaches/managers to that list, including Bernd Schuster and Jose Mourinho.
Most significantly he doesn't seem to be able to handle himself, whatever his gifts.
Moyes does not appear able to handle him, but you can add plenty of other coaches/managers to that list, including Bernd Schuster and Jose Mourinho.
Most significantly he doesn't seem to be able to handle himself, whatever his gifts.
Oh please fuck off any of you blaming Moyes for Drenthe being a piece of shit. A genuine talent that Mourinho sent on his way on loan because he's obviously a shit professional. It's not rumour, it's a track record. Some of you are just sick with Moyes-delusion syndrome and will blame him for the rain in England. Get a fucking grip.
Moyes doesnt appear to be able to handle him!!!!!!!!
So its Moyes's fault that Drenthe cant behave himself???, what a load of crap.
Typical comment that prevails in society today. The tosser doing wrong isnt to blame, its always someone else.
David 259, spot on.
So its Moyes's fault that Drenthe cant behave himself???, what a load of crap.
Typical comment that prevails in society today. The tosser doing wrong isnt to blame, its always someone else.
David 259, spot on.
So you accept that what's on these pages is rumour Joe...yet fail you fail to accept my point?
And not content with that piece of mental gymnastics... you then make more speculative assertions.
Nothing is 'apparent'.
And not content with that piece of mental gymnastics... you then make more speculative assertions.
Nothing is 'apparent'.
Amen to that David Barks
Well the 'rumour', Ciaron, is that he was pissed as a fart at Ladies Day (Thursday before the semi) and rocked up at training on Friday still half-cut. He was seen by enough people at Aintree on the Thursday to make it credible (ie, half of fucking Liverpool).
Mark, ladies day is on the Friday, although I have heard 'the rumour' as stated above, he was warned by Moyes regarding his conduct and continued to carry on with his 'wild' ways ! Glad Moyes got shut to be honest, he let the Manager, his team-mates and the fans down by his lack of discipline.
Does anyone know where he was living? House with brand new disco installed (left side a but roughed up) on the market? I'm in! Sounds great!
'Midnight at the Oooaasis....' Whoooo!
'Midnight at the Oooaasis....' Whoooo!
He should have played in the semi and been fined afterwards.
We may have been playing Chelsea in the final yesterday had Dreary posessed some man mangement skills.
There must have been seven or eight pissed and late when Moyes picked the team for the Anfield derby...
It's a pity Kenwright didnt fine and discipline Moyes.
Ten years in charge and celebrated with three defeats in one season to the worst redshite team in 60 years. Not forgiven or forgotten.
Did anyone see in the football rich list today that Dreary is the 20th highest paid Manager in world football? We are being mugged off good and proper...
Surely time for a chorus of "Oh Davey Moyes"
We may have been playing Chelsea in the final yesterday had Dreary posessed some man mangement skills.
There must have been seven or eight pissed and late when Moyes picked the team for the Anfield derby...
It's a pity Kenwright didnt fine and discipline Moyes.
Ten years in charge and celebrated with three defeats in one season to the worst redshite team in 60 years. Not forgiven or forgotten.
Did anyone see in the football rich list today that Dreary is the 20th highest paid Manager in world football? We are being mugged off good and proper...
Surely time for a chorus of "Oh Davey Moyes"
David Barks, I would much rather David Moyes were not Everton manager. However, his treatment of players who treat the club with contempt is , in my view an admirable quality,
In an extreme situation with a player of rare and sublime talent exceptions can be made. Royston Drenthe, of whom I had never heard before he came to Everton, doesn't fit the bill for me.
In an extreme situation with a player of rare and sublime talent exceptions can be made. Royston Drenthe, of whom I had never heard before he came to Everton, doesn't fit the bill for me.
Credit to Moyes for not openly discussion Drenthe's crimes. Regardless of his trophyless record, Moyes has set the standards of integrity for the club
He would have known how important the semi final was and still messed about. This tells you all you need to know. And if he didn't know how important it was, then he's dumber than a box of Jedwards.
Either way get rid. I'd have have Landon Donovan ahead of him any day of the week, pace with a brain and ...well isn't a massive twat
Either way get rid. I'd have have Landon Donovan ahead of him any day of the week, pace with a brain and ...well isn't a massive twat
I hope our dear red neighbours sign him and pay an obscene amount of wages. I have no doubt RR will do well for 6 games or so then the wheels will drop off and they will be left with another pup.
Adios Royston. Thanks for 12 minutes of entertainment but EFC is a team.
Adios Royston. Thanks for 12 minutes of entertainment but EFC is a team.
Richard#229.
We'll have to agree to disagree on "special treatment" for certain players. If a boss/manager/supervisor allows one person to flout the rules and do as they want what does that say to the rest of the team/staff.
Believe me it wasn't a question of David Moyes not being able to handle him, it was a question of Drenthe not being able to handle himself.
He let himself down, let his teamates, down and basically broke rule after rule that applied to ALL employess.
David Moyes DID give him a chance, and he blew it!
I was actually told what happened by an employee of the club (no, not a turnstile operator)...and as much as I'd like things to have worked out with a player who undoubtedly has talent...he gave David Moyes and the club no alternative.
As a little addendum, there's a lot to David Moyes that those on here who refer to him as a "ginger tosser" "dreary Dave" etc etc....and those who go on about "he couldn't handle him" etc etc....don't know!
I know he has his faults, who doesn't, but he cares a lot more for Everton than some people on here give him credit for believe me!
We'll have to agree to disagree on "special treatment" for certain players. If a boss/manager/supervisor allows one person to flout the rules and do as they want what does that say to the rest of the team/staff.
Believe me it wasn't a question of David Moyes not being able to handle him, it was a question of Drenthe not being able to handle himself.
He let himself down, let his teamates, down and basically broke rule after rule that applied to ALL employess.
David Moyes DID give him a chance, and he blew it!
I was actually told what happened by an employee of the club (no, not a turnstile operator)...and as much as I'd like things to have worked out with a player who undoubtedly has talent...he gave David Moyes and the club no alternative.
As a little addendum, there's a lot to David Moyes that those on here who refer to him as a "ginger tosser" "dreary Dave" etc etc....and those who go on about "he couldn't handle him" etc etc....don't know!
I know he has his faults, who doesn't, but he cares a lot more for Everton than some people on here give him credit for believe me!
Ian Edwards,
is that the same Rich List that puts Martin "Stuff You, Villa, But I'm Off A Week Before The Start Of The Season" O'Neill on an equal placing, and the same Rich List that has Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp,Roy Hodgson and Mark Hughes all above Moyes in the list? It also has Queen Kenny on a bigger salary for helping produce the worst Liverpool side in living memory.(Yes, I know all about Moyes failure to take advantage of that fact so don't blow a gasket in your effort to educate me on that). I'm not 100% happy with Moyes either, but let's not be TOO selective in our effort to denigrate Moyes . Lots of managers and players are paid obscene amounts of money for failure. Did you notice the inclusion of Kieron Dyer?
It's certainly an interesting insight into just how much money is made by very average players. Heskey? Carrick? Joe Cole? For fucks sake...
is that the same Rich List that puts Martin "Stuff You, Villa, But I'm Off A Week Before The Start Of The Season" O'Neill on an equal placing, and the same Rich List that has Steve Bruce, Harry Redknapp,Roy Hodgson and Mark Hughes all above Moyes in the list? It also has Queen Kenny on a bigger salary for helping produce the worst Liverpool side in living memory.(Yes, I know all about Moyes failure to take advantage of that fact so don't blow a gasket in your effort to educate me on that). I'm not 100% happy with Moyes either, but let's not be TOO selective in our effort to denigrate Moyes . Lots of managers and players are paid obscene amounts of money for failure. Did you notice the inclusion of Kieron Dyer?
It's certainly an interesting insight into just how much money is made by very average players. Heskey? Carrick? Joe Cole? For fucks sake...
I hope the shite sign him and he corrupts them from within with his disco inspired antics. He looked, talked and acted like a tool and therefore he is a tool.
Colin, they need little to corrupt them, they already have a number of dispicable cheats within their ranks including Gerrard, Bellamy and Kuyt.
Drenthe reminds me of flat pack furniture; all the bits are there to make a great piece of furniture, but at the moment it's just bits of wood scattered round the living room. Whether he puts it all together is entirely up to him, but the old cliche's of no pain no gain, you only get out what you put in etc
At the moment he appears to want to get paid obscene amounts of money from a club, not just this one, and when he wants a rest from drinking, dancing and shagging, he'll grace us with his presence.
Just having the ability to kick a ball is not enough, there are tens of thousands of players playing Sunday league who wasn't prepared or didn't have the hunger to make it as a pro footballer, Drenthe's had one chance too many-Fuck him and move on
At the moment he appears to want to get paid obscene amounts of money from a club, not just this one, and when he wants a rest from drinking, dancing and shagging, he'll grace us with his presence.
Just having the ability to kick a ball is not enough, there are tens of thousands of players playing Sunday league who wasn't prepared or didn't have the hunger to make it as a pro footballer, Drenthe's had one chance too many-Fuck him and move on
Anyone remember Maurice Johnstone. He was a 'character', a big name, proven goalscorer at the top level. He also had innumerable faults off the pitch.He then managed to spread these problems to some of the younger players and actually helped completely wreck the career of one in particular.
Drenthe has gone and I back Moyes on this one.
Drenthe has gone and I back Moyes on this one.
Mike #273 he was staying in Ryan Babel's house
Paul, I do indeed. I remember going to a mates birthday dinner at a Chinese place on South Road having seen us struggle to draw at home against a Luton side. MoJo equalised Mark Pembridge's opener, and was out celebrating in the restaurant.
I'd always thought that an ex-Celtic player, and Catholic to boot, who decided to return from France to Glasgow and sign for Rangers (having already agreed to rejoin Celtic) had to be either brave, or stupid. The reality was he was just greedy, like most, and did it for the money.
I'd always thought that an ex-Celtic player, and Catholic to boot, who decided to return from France to Glasgow and sign for Rangers (having already agreed to rejoin Celtic) had to be either brave, or stupid. The reality was he was just greedy, like most, and did it for the money.
Re Mojo. I was actually working in Fazak the night he came in after shattering his cheekbone 'after tripping over his child's rocking horse'. It was just after Christmas, he was smashed and he was a wreck. Don't even start on the antics when he was staying at the Holiday Inn. Married man with kids as well. Too much money, too much white powder.
What's the story then Brian?
I have heard that Rodwell's hamstring problems are related to his constant Michael Jackson impressions at the Drenthe Disco...
And that Kenwright is entering Hibbo, Pip and Leon into Britain's Got Talent to try and make a few quid by doing their famous 'oops upside your head' routine that also goes down a storm at the Ricky Raves...
And that Kenwright is entering Hibbo, Pip and Leon into Britain's Got Talent to try and make a few quid by doing their famous 'oops upside your head' routine that also goes down a storm at the Ricky Raves...
I liked Drenthe. Pacey wildcard. Sadly he seems to an idiot. Can't blame Moyes for getting rid on this occasion.
Paul#356.
On Drenthe or Moyes?
On Drenthe or Moyes?
I don't know about anyone else, but I for one would like to hear from Drenthe himself. Not just about the reasons why he didn't make it at Everton (though that would obviously be of interest), but to hear the word 'sorry'.
Yes, Royston owes the club and the fans a big apology for letting Moyes down bigtime on the eve of one of our biggest matches in recent years. After the game Distin came out and apologised for his blunder, but at least Distin gave his all for the cause.
Drenthe knew just what that game meant to everyone at Everton FC and even if he feels hard done to by Moyes (which he wasn't) the least he can do now is say how sorry he is.
Yes, Royston owes the club and the fans a big apology for letting Moyes down bigtime on the eve of one of our biggest matches in recent years. After the game Distin came out and apologised for his blunder, but at least Distin gave his all for the cause.
Drenthe knew just what that game meant to everyone at Everton FC and even if he feels hard done to by Moyes (which he wasn't) the least he can do now is say how sorry he is.
The fact that arguably the best manager in the world dumped him at Real Madrid says it all for me.
If Maureen can't help him, I doubt anyone can.
If Maureen can't help him, I doubt anyone can.
Brian, Drenthe would like to know what you got told that's all mate.
Paul, if you have a direct line to Drenthe, ask him if he did turn up worse for wear?
If he slurs his words, odds are that he did.
If he slurs his words, odds are that he did.
Ha sorry Tony, I have just read it back myself that is not how it was meant to sound, it was reference to Brians question, I just wanted to know what this person who works for the club said about Drenthe and what was the final straw.
Paul Gladwell#567
Paul. Simply that he turned up for training (under the influence, was how it was termed) after being given several "chances", (not least the leave of absence to sort out his private life) to sort himself out.
Turning up under the influence was the final straw....
Paul. Simply that he turned up for training (under the influence, was how it was termed) after being given several "chances", (not least the leave of absence to sort out his private life) to sort himself out.
Turning up under the influence was the final straw....
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953 Posted 05/05/2012 at 16:36:32
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Yea what you just said -
'Well, it looks like Royston Drenthe will never pull on an Everton shirt again, and to be honest I am not that arsed.'