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With the Euros starting tonight, here is something for a little entertainment. I think we need a break from worrying about selling all our best players.

I'm on early shifts in work over the weekend and then off midweek so I'm going to get to watch the Poland game tonight, opening game and all that, as well as Ireland's first two group games I've even cleared it with her indoors. Fair enough she's studying for an exam on Tuesday and I have the run of the TV but it makes me feel like I'm actually the boss of the house.

I've known in advance that I was going to be off for some of the games and don't really fancy going to the local. Beer is pricy in the pubs here and they're going to be overcrowded and uncomfortable given that Ireland are playing in the tournament. As a result I've been thinking about what beer I'll get in for the games I'll get to watch.

I'm not really a fan of the big commercial brand beers like Heineken or Carlsberg. I find them tasteless and they give me godawful hangovers. Over the last couple of years the CAMRA organisation has come to my attention through myself and herself going to England on short weekend breaks. I've found myself looking out for the signs outside pubs and will usually check the website for the area we are going to beforehand.

While some of the beers aren't to my taste, most of them have been nice and a little different and the idea of guest beers and hand pumps seems really charming. I also like the charm of a lot of the pubs that are involved in the CAMRA organisation. When we were in Liverpool for example there was a lovely little pub called the Globe that we usually had a beer or two in at the end of the evening. It was just up from the Novotel where we stayed near Liverpool One shopping centre. The Baltic Fleet was really nice too and I think I had a pint of Wappings summer beer there on the Friday.

Over the last couple of years many of the smaller English breweries having been appearing in large chain stores' off license sections here in Ireland as well as in many of the big chain off license chains themselves. Shepard Neame pops up a lot. Fullers has also appeared, with London Pride a favourite of mine. Theakston's Old Peculiar is another one to have caught my eye. There are a lot more but I can't remember all of them.

Depending where you go, some of the beers can actually be picked up fairly cheaply and this helps in terms of being able to avoid the pub. I'm off today so I think my beer of choice when I get down to the shopping centre will be some Shepard Neame in Lidl.

I'm just curious to see what beers people will be drinking for the tournament and what you think of the CAMRA organisation?
Kieran Fitzgerald, Dublin     Posted 08/06/2012 at 08:08:07

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Ian Smitham
897   Posted 09/06/2012 at 05:27:17

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Just watching the opening game, and wonder does anyone know (rather than guess) what the officials at the goal ends of the pitch are responsible for please? Additionally, is it the same as in the Europa league?

Relevance to Everton? If the role is seen as a success, I imagine it will be adopted in the Premier League one day soon...

Matt Traynor
900   Posted 09/06/2012 at 06:41:15

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They are the same roles as in the Europa League, and completely surplus to requirements I think. Especially as one of them was Clattenburg in the Russia-Czech game.

Given that Group A was labelled the Group of Death (through boredom) by the media I thought both games were entertaining, for different reasons. The first for some terrible refereeing in the first half, the second for chances spurned and scored.

Always enjoyed the Euros. Got tickets in 2000 for the final, and enjoyed that so much flew back from Asia for a few games in 2004.

Regarding the beer, there's over 3,500 different UK real ales, and more than you can shake a stick at from other countries. Tastes, strengths to suit all. I once was in a bar in Liege that had over 1,000 different world beers. Never did get through them all... And, I was with a card-carrying CAMRA member that didn't have a beard!

Geoff Trenner
941   Posted 09/06/2012 at 12:11:57

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Wine is the answer (whatever the question is!) but particularly to reducing toilet breaks during a game
Peter Laing
943   Posted 09/06/2012 at 12:21:40

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Kieran have you ever tried the Ship and Mitre in Liverpool, it's at the bottom of Dale Street by the flyover, good pub for real ale and I think that they have opened an off license in Williamson Square. Give it a go next time your over !
Mick MacManus
945   Posted 09/06/2012 at 12:38:12

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I'm also from Ireland Kieran and steer well clear of the bog standard beers. I travel to Poland alot and at home generally stick to Polish beer which you can get everywhere. Zubr, Lech, Żywiec and Tyskie (in that order) are my favourite main brand Polish beers available here. Lomza beer is great, but I don't think you can get it here. The Slovak beer Zlatý Ba?ant is nice. I discovered it in Slovakia last year and you can buy it in a good few 'offies' here.

As for Chang beer, you can only buy it in bulk in one shop in Ireland (the Asian market off George's Street In Dublin). It comes in a corrigated brown cardboard box complete with import stamps of about 30 bottles and works out about a euro a bottle. Not mad about it though. Lidle also stock some Thai beers like Singha. COYBIG!

John Crook
946   Posted 09/06/2012 at 12:46:36

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I only drink German draft/pils beer. You can't go wrong with it. It's much better in Germany and on the continent obviously. For those of you conscious about hangovers, I recommend Dab ? strong lager, no chemicals; drink it to your heart's content. You won't be rough the next day in the way you would had you been on Stella, 1664 and the like.
Glen Anderson
953   Posted 09/06/2012 at 14:26:16

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Almost no relevance to Everton here but hell, we're all footy fans and I reckon almost all beer fans too.

Three of my personal faves, all available in Sainsbury's or Tesco

www.bathales.com/our-ales/aid/gem - Easydrinking amber coloured ale with a slightly sweet aftertaste. Could drink it all night.

http://www.oldtombeer.co.uk/flavours - Strong dark ale full of flavour. 7% I think but hides the sharp alcohol taste well.

www.leffe.com/en/beer/leffe-brown - Liquid alcoholic bread. Could drink this all night too, Belgian trappist style.

One more if you can find it. Tesco do their own brand Czech beer called Boheme. Lager style but imo not at all like the mass produced crap. Imported from a micro-brewery in the town of Budweiser.

Denis Byrne
956   Posted 09/06/2012 at 14:47:40

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Excellent question, Kieran. I prefer a half price (fiver) chardonnay for a game but do you know what has really suprised me lately is the Co-Op own brand bottled ales, really tasty. Also, might be tricky to track down and tends not to travel well but Brains Dark (from the Cardiff brewery) is absolutely lush.
Chris Hockenhull
966   Posted 09/06/2012 at 16:35:45

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For sheer ecomony Iv'e developed a taste for Bavaria mainly due to the fact it's £1.49 from Home & Bargain...and I've become a recluse at home with the cat!!
Mike Andrews
967   Posted 09/06/2012 at 16:51:45

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Well watching the games here in Italy it will be Birra Moretti or Peroni, but , Denis, just to make you utterly sick I will be likely to have wine as well but mine ( a lovely verdicchio) costs just a bit over a fiver , mind you I do get 5 litres for that!
As for the Euros sod who wins just so long as no Blues get injured or sold!

COYB

Eugene Ruane
970   Posted 09/06/2012 at 17:08:36

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Sadly I leave Hamburg in a couple of weeks which means going back to smoking OUTSIDE the alehouse.

In the area I live in (Winterhuder) there are a lot of these really tiny little bars that serve great beers. I

I never specify a brand, instead I (pathetically) make that 'pulling a pint' gesture and say 'ein beer'.

The guv'nor will then pick a glass of the rack and say something like..

"Füffenslachermulhöllergröllerjungfersteig?"

And I respond with..er...a thumbs up?

Seems risky but I have NEVER had a bum pint - alway beautiful.

The bottled Jever's nice too (had two of them this morning)

Eugene Ruane
971   Posted 09/06/2012 at 17:23:41

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Shit as I posted that, Denmark went 1 up.

COUGHHEITINGA!

Peter Laing
973   Posted 09/06/2012 at 17:35:07

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Eugene you dont half get some good postings fella, where are you off too next ?
Eugene Ruane
976   Posted 09/06/2012 at 17:46:18

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Not a clue Peter. Back on the 20th, going to watch the Euros, hols to France in July, back for the Olympics, a week in Kinsale (Ireland) early Sept. One thing I should say, as good as the beer is here, the food is gash (as it was in Gothenburg last year). I am gagging for a sausage dinner (from the Merrivale chippy off Halewood Rd) and a curry and chips from the Supper Bar.
Mike Hughes
979   Posted 09/06/2012 at 17:44:55

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Kieran,

Firstly, I'm slightly alarmed that a Blue would even mention Carlsberg, a beer that was once plastered all over RS shirts. On trip to Copenhagen a few years ago, I was gasping for a beer but drank red wine as the place we were in only had Carlsberg (not even Tuborg). Any brand that is associated to the RS won't get a penny off me - that includes Candy products, Hitachi, Standard Chartered etc. They are all blacklisted in my home, Goodison Towers.

However, on to the beer. Big subject. Depends on where you are and whether it's summer or winter.

A couple of fantastic beers I've had recently were IPAs which I had in the Lake District. One was called Loweswater Gold and really hit the spot. Another was Deuchars IPA.

A local micro-brewery - Peerless Brewing in Birkenhead - make something called Hilbre Gold (formerly Viking Gold) which is also fantastic - and they sell a pressurised keg for around £19.

If I'm ever on a life support machine they can hook me up to any of the above and drip feed me continuously.

For cheap home-drinking, bottled Becks is usually a reasonable hot weather choice.

#966 Chris - As a similar recluse - with dog - Becks is regularly on offer in supermarkets for only slightly more than the price of Bavaria.

#970 Eugene - I was in Hamburg in March and, while I only had a couple of beers, they were very good.

On the international theme, if anyone ever goes to Geneva, AVOID Les Brasseurs (near the train station) like the plague. They are considered a drinkers' pub as they brew their own. Sadly it tastes like it's passed through Rafa Benitez twice. The food's crap as well.

Mark Pierpoint
980   Posted 09/06/2012 at 18:52:07

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Titanic Iceberg brewed in Stoke is a good tipple. Never saw it in Liverpool when I lived there, and don't know if this has changed now, but if available a great, light pale ale and only 4.2%. The Titanic Captain Smiths at 5% is also a good stronger alternative!
Denis Byrne
989   Posted 09/06/2012 at 20:15:19

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Nice one Mike, five litres during a single match, I'm suitably jealous and simultaneously impressed. Eugene makes me shrink with envy. I recall going to a 'Beer Museum' in Heidelberg during a university footy tour (Swansea university unbeaten in Mannheim 1980) and we sat downand selected the strongest beers we could see from the menu. I had three of the smallest bottles imaginable, was well annoyed by the low volume, but on trying to stand up promptly fell over and couldn't walk. Germans, they know their ale. The most beautiful barmaid in the western hemisphere let me and my mate 'rob' a glass from the bar. So Kieran, any chinese or african beer over 10 per cent ... but be careful.
Steve Burgess
005   Posted 09/06/2012 at 21:47:42

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Beer and football is an addictive combo.
Draft beer - Hobson's Town Crier served to perfection in The Church in Ludlow. Also Ludlow Gold brewed in town (the goods shed next to the train station) and best sampled at the brewery.
Bottled beer - Innis Gunn in oak barrels with rum finnish - 7.4% cultured rocket fuel.
Wine - red 14%+ - ration a bottle over 90mins.
A fat Tescos GnT with lime and Schwepps tonic. A couple of large ones starts to f*ck with your head.
Who needs the football....
Tony Anetts
008   Posted 09/06/2012 at 22:20:27

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Oops false start - has been a while since I posted here.

I recommend trying a beer brand called 'Brew Dog'. They are Scottish and they are making really amazing beer that will cater to whatever taste you have. You can be sure that whatever you get will be tasty. Personally I like their darker beers that range in strength from 8-18% - however these are not sessionable unless you are pretty good with beer. Try 'Punk IPA' - an amazing IPA triple hopped. You can get this stuff from Sainsburys or via the internet at www.brewdog.com

James Flynn
026   Posted 10/06/2012 at 00:46:51

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Viewing over here drinking Rolling Rock and Blue Moon.

Recommend Arrogant Bastard (www.arrogantbastard.com/). Nice, full, taste and their home page is fun even if you don't drink it.

Dave Wilson
040   Posted 10/06/2012 at 06:28:20

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The brother in law decided he was a royalist last week and came around with eight different ales. (tescos were knocking them out, any 4 for 6 quid ).

He`s into his real ales too. wonderful names like Fursty Ferret, Bishops Finger, Old Peculiar, Badgers something or other were getting "tasted"

Anyway, the one that real stood out for me was called "Poacher`s Choice". its a liquorice/damson taste (I know ) but it went down an absolute treat.

I asked the missus to pick me eight bottles when she was in Tescos on friday, I thought that would do me the weekend, but honestly, I opened one before the opening game and before I knew it I was drinking like a teenager.

I fell asleep and missed the second half of the Russian game, so it wasnt all good, but if Everton start next season in the usual fashion, I may have stumbled across something to numb the pain.

I dont know if Tescos are doing the same deal over there Kieran, but if they are, they`ve got literally dozens of these ales to try.

Get in and do a little research

Drew O'Neall
063   Posted 10/06/2012 at 11:28:27

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Good post Kieran.

I'll distil my thoughts on the topic for easy consumption..

Lagers.. Check the label for the dreaded 'brewed and bottle in the uk', this isn't snobbery, we make some of the worst lager in the world, mainly in Northampton, and it all tastes the same (well doesn't taste of anything really). German lagers are great because those clever krauts passed a law way back when which ensures that only natural ingredients are used in the production process so you can be sure the hangovers aren't fortified.

Belgian and Dutch lagers are good too but you have to shop around to ensure it's imported and not brewed here (UK) under licences.

Ales.. I'm partial to a real ale, and like yourself am a big fan of London Pride but beware, the product in the bottle is not the same as the pint at your local. However if you are a former lager man the nitrogenated ales are a good halfway house combining the fizz with the flavour. For the real thing look for the 'bottle conditioned' mark on the label or just hold up the bottle and look for sediment to ensure that the yeast which conditions the beer is present.

If you like London Pride I would point you towards Greene King IPA as another, easy to find alternative.. You can impress your friends by telling them the story of the origins of India Pale Ale which dates back to the days of the British Empire when we would send ale out by the ship load, the sub continental climate would heat the ale in the cask and this method is still used to recreate the taste..

Jeremy Benson
137   Posted 10/06/2012 at 21:03:10

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Re: Chris Hockenhull,

You're paying too much for bavaria; it's only 99p a bottle in aldi. Although their clumping litter is not the best.

Graham Rathbone
881   Posted 14/06/2012 at 12:07:18

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James#026 Supporting the principles Mike#979 uses, ie blacklisting products that are associated with the red shite, I think I will be giving the "Arrogant Bastard" brew a miss.

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