Strange isn't it to think there would be a day when Man City had several players we could only dream of (please no one say Lescott)

In Answer to your question Ryan, it's gonna come down to how much we have to spend. BA cost Newcastle nowt but we weren't even in the running.

Apart from that,I must say I was impressed by Mandzukic. Very mobile,could probably play just off the striker or on the wing,so he would fit in with Moyesie's 1 up front. And him and Jelavic seemed to do well together for Croatia.

Hopefully we can get him in on loan,followed by Donovan in January...

With Fellaini and, we all hope, Pienaar buzzing around him defences will be pulled all over the place to allow him to ply his trade, which is a very specialised one.

And Ryan, you don't help your cause by saying 'Saha's gone'. He would have been better off with Hibbo up with him. And, actually, El Stracq - talk about the battering ram and the rapier. Who knows? It might have worked.

Huddersfield made it clear they weren't selling Rhodes in January and it was only then did the Jelavic deal proceed. Even at this point, Moyes had to be talked round by Kenwright.

The reason I bring this up is that Jelavic has been a great signing but we can't credit David Moyes for it. I, like a lot of fans. think Bill Kenwright is a tool. But on this occasion, I think he deserves a little credit.

I do agree though that we have finally found a striker that thrives in Moyes' favoured system, and that a "link" man would be more beneficial than another out and out striker.

Short version; If Moyes want a 'Cahill of 3 yrs ago clone' then naming all these ' proper forwards ' is pointless. He will always cut his ' In the hole' suit according to the dictates of how will it affect the effectivness of his core 'KITAP1ishness cloth'.

If how the team was set up for most of the 2nd half of last season were to translate into a Full season He ( Moyes ) might expect that Jelavic might get 20+

I don't think that He will make what is for him a radical change of how he sees the 'role of the hole' just for the relatively small(?) benefit of a few more goals for the team and Jelavic.

I get the impression that winning by much too many goals sends echos through his mind of the words of a childhood Patriachical figure ' 5-0! a needless extragavance Laddie, a neeeedless extrrravagance'

As for the strike partner I don't think he needs one, contrary to what most pundits seem to think I don't think Mandzukic and Jelavic have played well together. They both go for the same balls and their aerial ability means that most attacks are in the form of crosses being swung into the box. Jelavic has looked at his best whe playing for us as the sole spearhead of our attack. I think a number 10 supplying him with chances and maybe getting a few himself from outside the box would be an ideal partner but we do not need two number 9s up top. The football would get worse. I'd be more confident of getting 30 goals out of Jelavic next season than getting 15 from both him and Mandzukic in tandem.

Kenwright did leave the final decision with Moyes, as he always has done. This was the main reason the transfer went right down to deadline day. Apparently, Moyes wanted to give the Rhodes deal every chance of going through but Huddersfield were adamant that they weren't going to sell in January, whilst they were in with a chance of promotion.

Personally, I'm not sure how true the claim is that Jelavic's British agent is an Evertonian. However, there is no doubt that Jelavic was offered to Kenwright at the beginning of the transfer window. Luckily, whoever it was, got the deal sorted as I honestly think that we've got our best striker since Sharpy was in his pomp!

I reckon if Fellaini and Jelavic play in the forward 2 roles (and presuming Pienaar or similar is brought in to playmake) that they will form a 30 goal strike force for the season.

On the other hand if we were to bring in a Hoilett-esque siging then Fella could play more box to box alongside Gibson which also went well.

My main concern is what happens if Jela gets injured. Who picks up the mantle then?! Not sure we have anyone else at the club in anywhere near the same class...

I don't think Cahill is finished yet though.

Keith I was talking about Toffeewebbers stating that Jelavic would benefit from playing with another striker, all I am doing is raising a topic. Also I was pointing out that we don't have any other strikers available to play with him.

In your first post you say Moyes had to be talked into taking Jelavic. In your second post you say Moyes had the final decision. Surely if Moyes had the final decision, it was his choice to buy him?
Or do you honestly believe that Moyes wanted Rhodes, and then bowed to Kenwright's superior knowledge and said, 'Do you know what Bill? You are right. We will go after your man.'

Naismith would be an option.

I cant imagine Kenwright having anything to do with it. Moyes is usually pretty thorough with his scouting and signings where possible. and I dont beleive for one minute Kenwright did a "Daniel Levy" and said Davey Ive got £5m to spend on a striker, Ill go and get Jelavic for you.

Bloody hell, I bet this has given Kenwright some ideas !

But looking at Europe's best during this tournament, it makes me think how clued up Moyes actually is. I'm sure, for example, that he would have got more out of Croatia than Bilic did. Anyway, I don't think he'll be looking for a 'strike partner' for Nicky. Another striker that we can afford who knows he'll be no 2? Yes, maybe, and if Vic attracts a buyer. For me, I think Vellios should always be on the bench anyway ? already a proven impact sub. Dempsey is excellent and would fit in ? but way beyond our budget I guess.

Given that we do 4-5-1, the discussion about a support midfielder is very relevant. Timmy no, Osman can, but the Big Fella's the natural. If we can get a midfielder to replace him further back ? Gibson already does a lot of that ? we have a potent strike force already. Marouane creates mayhem and panic in the final third. Pienaar is a must. And young Barkley? Like Vellios for me ? should always be on the bench, used if needed and hopefully given a run out when not needed. As was Rooney when we made him the best English player of this generation before his agent Mr Bent of Stretford (no relation) offered him a private jet as well as a big house in Cheshire. And nobody has mentioned Rodwell (for England?) yet.

Mark R - Wembley FC? Years behind us. We did that with Gazza and some French bloke who did shampoo commercials.

The firesale at Rangers will continue and I agree we should get in early.

Indeed, I may have insulted one, but Im not sure which one ?

Not with a barge pole.