Season 2012-13
Opinion
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Cup Game against Leeds?
With the Swansea win fresh in our minds, what should we do away against Leeds in the League Cup game on the 25th? The three injuries to Hibbo, Jela and Gibson, make things ever so complicated but here are my thoughts:
1. Naismith – We must play him for 90 and get him firing ready and hungry.
2. Distin – He should play, perhaps with Duffy again with a view to keep the other two fresh.
3. Mucha – He should get a full game. As good as Howard is, he can be inconsistent as he was against Newcastle; he definitely needs the competition.
4. A new combination of Oviedo and Gueye on the left should also be given a full go. We can't afford any injuries to Baines and Pienaar at the moment.
5. Junior – is he fit yet? If so, we need to see him at the senior level ASAP as we need some options down the middle.
6. Anichebe the Beast could be tried at the Fellaini role. He's quite the holding forward himself and perhaps Vellios can do the Anichebe type role
So to summarise:
GK - Mucha
RB - Coleman
DC - Distin
DC - Duffy
LB - Oviedo
MR - ???? Neville / Coleman – one half each?
ML - Gueye
MC - Junior (if fit)
MC - ???? Cupboard's barren – Leon / Kevin one half each?
AMF - Anichebe / Vellios?
ST - Naismith
I suppose this is where the gaffer earns his keep. How to keep the cup run going while minimising any disruptions to the main squad.
Nigel Gregson, Posted 23/09/2012 at 22:42:51
Reader Comments
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578 Posted 24/09/2012 at 05:28:04
If we where to win it, it'll be a case of Everton get their first 'mini' trophy for winnin the 'egg and spoon' race, a proper 'ahh' for them. Fuck that. Let's concentrate on winning the league, and blood the Under-21s and the youth who must be gaggin to escape from Stalag Luft Finch Farm by now.
And speaking of which, what the bloody hell's going on with Connor McAleny??
580 Posted 24/09/2012 at 07:13:33
Coleman
Duffy
Heitinga
Distin
Naismith
Junior
Fellaini
Gueye
Vellios
Mirallas
583 Posted 24/09/2012 at 08:14:39
TD, you and others fall for the media bull and shame on you; we should go in to this to win the cup. Europe qualification and fans seeing us lift a cup at Wembley, what more do you want as a fan? I just don’t get some people on this site!!
It was this competition in 84 which kick-started the belief; yes, we lost to the RS in a replay but we smelt out the path. Get a life and back the team all the way, play your best 11 every game and use the squad when you get injuries.
593 Posted 24/09/2012 at 09:43:17
I suspect...
Howmuch
Coleman Distinga Jagielka Oviedo
Fallaini
Mirallas Osman Gueye
Naismith
Anichebe
Nevbert on the bench with Bainaar with a bunch of kids.
596 Posted 24/09/2012 at 09:53:42
I thought we were great against Swansea, the buzz is really going around.
600 Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:20:52
We'd go nuts if we went to Wembley and won a trophy for Tiddlywinks, it's been too long, we need silverware.
When managers get clever fannying about with team selection thats when it goes tits up, we're too fragile in the confidence dept to be playing silly buggers.
Strongest team wherever possible Mr Moyes and lets go down in flames if we can't win the thing.
601 Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:23:09
603 Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:35:40
606 Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:34:41
Mucha
Coleman Heitinga Distin Baines
Mirallas Neville Osman Oviedo
Naismith
Anichebe
Subs: Howard, Duffy, Jagielka, Junior, Pienaar, Fellaini, Vellios.
607 Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:39:15
Full strength team Mr Moyes.
612 Posted 24/09/2012 at 11:07:46
614 Posted 24/09/2012 at 11:12:19
Mucha
Coleman Heitinga Distin Baines
Naismith Neville/Fellaini Osman Oveido
Gueye
Anichebe
Or maybe Naismith and Gueye can swap positions? The only thing thats worrying me is the centre mid positions. I think Osman needs a rest because he looks like hes nackered after every game. Whether Neville or Fellaini starts, I'm still not sure about.
619 Posted 24/09/2012 at 12:04:17
But playing Neville at MR or Vellios at AMF does not make sense to me.
Put Naismith at AMR and let Vellios play as a striker (which is what he is).
621 Posted 24/09/2012 at 12:09:46
Good balanced team is what is needed and keep that fecker Mucha on the bench thank you very much Mr Moyes.
Game time for Gueye and Oveido though
624 Posted 24/09/2012 at 12:18:32
641 Posted 24/09/2012 at 12:38:11
Howard
Coleman Duffy Distin Oviedo
Naismith Junior Osman Gueye
Vellios Anichebe
Should be enough to see off Leeds.
654 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:47:14
661 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:25:56
I reckon minimal changes with maybe Naismith, Distin and Gueye getting starts.
Agree that central mid is tricky and that Osman and Neville are not going to be able to play every match without tiring. Not sure what options we have though as not sure this is the game to hand junior a start.
665 Posted 24/09/2012 at 15:37:51
677 Posted 24/09/2012 at 14:57:25
And at home Leeds, will be no pushover, having watched a couple of their games, they can be a bit physical, and Neil Warnock will have them fired up.
708 Posted 24/09/2012 at 18:17:02
Basically I agree with our esteemed editor, something which is quite rare in itself. A home game against Leyton Orient was not the same thing as an away game at Leeds. I think we need to try to win this competition, and stay close to full strength to do so. A couple of tinkering's might be acceptable, and a couple of players on the bench in the hope of keeping them out of harm's way maybe.
However, I get the feeling Moyes has told Mucha he'll play these games in order to keep him sweet, so I still expect to see him. I could understand if Distin plays, and possibly Duffy too as an expression of Moyes' trust and a clear signal that we have four good centre backs. Its also not hard to make the case for giving Naismith playing time to recover his sharpness (I think we forget he's been out since last October until our pre-season) and if there's ever a match to have an early look at Oviedo before we're forced to its this one.
That looks like I've talked myself into possibly five changes, whilst trying to remain near full strength. I certainly don't see Francisco Junior being thrown in or Garbutt getting another game.
710 Posted 24/09/2012 at 18:39:28
As for tomorrow at Leeds I'd bring in Oviedo, DIstin, Naismith and Junior.
Leeds are nothing special and as long as we concentrate on our strengths we should win without much drama.
Has anyone else noticed lately how vitriolic Leeds fans have become towards Everton lately I wonder what their problem is.
712 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:03:05
715 Posted 24/09/2012 at 19:08:02
747 Posted 24/09/2012 at 20:35:31
Main point being that, a successful cup run, that gives players a taste of victory and sense of achievement, no matter how experienced they are individually, can be a catalyst towards even greater things, no matter what the competition.
I say, go and win the fuckin' thing.
Good book btw.
748 Posted 24/09/2012 at 20:45:29
Didn't Baines get injured in his next game after being rested last season?
752 Posted 24/09/2012 at 21:06:48
Mucha
Neville Heitinga Distin Oviedo
Coleman Osman Naismith Junior Pienaar
Anichebe
(I'm not saying this is the team I would play, but I suspect he will want to rest Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas and Howard...)
771 Posted 24/09/2012 at 22:35:38
Winning either of the two domestic cup competitions is irrelevant is it? Notwithstanding the extra much needed income it brings to the club – the FA Cup Final in particular still gets a worldwide audience measured in the billions, and brings with it massive exposure of the club to potential new fans.
Success on the pitch is the only proven formula to attract new non-local support, which in terms of increasing revenue streams, is vitally important for the club.
We should always aim to win the League Cup because it's a route into Europe and because we've never won it, and the FA Cup for reasons mentioned above.
773 Posted 24/09/2012 at 23:43:52
Watch this space.
775 Posted 24/09/2012 at 23:55:14
776 Posted 24/09/2012 at 23:56:08
The locals couldn't believe the support we showed in bitter defeat: when we win the FA Cup again it'll be the biggest street party N London's ever seen
781 Posted 25/09/2012 at 00:25:51
Coleman Duffy Heitinger Oviedo
MirallesJunior Neville Gueye
Naismith
Anichebe
Miralles, Jonny & Naismith need gametime, and Pip to organise, should have more than enough to win
790 Posted 25/09/2012 at 02:11:27
Amen! Don't mess around with the lineup too much! If we sit a few starters fine – they need rest and we may want to protect them especially at Leeds.
Anyone remember Villa blowing off the Europa Cup / League / whatever the hell it was called to chase top 4?
Win a trophy! 5 games in and we are thinking scrap the Cup run for top 4?!
Really?
Mickey Mouse Cup is still silverware. Win it – we can and we need to win something!
883 Posted 25/09/2012 at 13:16:11
As much as I would want to see us win something, if you made me chose I would pick the champions league purely on the benefits of it. On saying that though, wanting to see us win something is a very deep rooted itch with most everton fans.
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576 Posted 24/09/2012 at 04:31:37
Moyes needs to win a trophy this season. No faffing around!