Season 2012-13
Opinion
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Congratulations to Phil Neville
I'm not sure if this has already been highlighted but I thought it was only fair to congratulate our captain Pip on reaching 500 Premier League appearances against Wigan.
I know Neville has his critics on TW but I think his influence on the team over the years cannot be underestimated. He came to Everton at a time when we were crying out for winners in the team, and whatever you think of Pip, there is no denying that he is a winner and I personally feel we have benefitted greatly as a team for having him at our football club.
Well done, Pip, and thanks for being a fantastic Everton servant!
Steven Scaffardi, Posted 27/12/2012 at 09:14:51
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283 Posted 27/12/2012 at 16:24:39
The way he bounced back after so bad an injury is testament to his professionalism and pride in his fitness.
I really admire Pip and Distin for staying at the top level of football for so long especially as pace and fitness are priotities in todays game.
I would like to find out who is the fastest player on our books.
I reckon Mirallas, Baines and Distin must be near the top.
Anyway, congratulations to Pip, lets look forward to him always being a part of our club in some capacity.
284 Posted 27/12/2012 at 16:42:12
287 Posted 27/12/2012 at 16:55:01
296 Posted 27/12/2012 at 17:05:24
I cannot fathom why Moyes wants him to go on playing, he is well beyond his best and that says it all regarding Moyes. He just wants to keep his captain around to spur the boys on while he just gets overun and points his finger around yelling at his teammates, that is what Neville is good for now.
Such a shame, I hate when players who are past it cannot see when their time is up, Neville is no world beater either so any other midfielder can come in and do a better job then Neville.
Also Barkley has got royally screwed by Moyes, by looking at his face while sitting at the bench I felt for the guy. Here he does a very decent job for Sheffield Wednesday and then he gets brought back only to be sitting rotting away on the bench.
Moyes simply has no time for youngsters, it has been shown the last few years that he prefers players like Neville in midfield before Barkley. How are we going to produce our own talents when then NEVER get any playing time???
At least Brendan Rodgers has understood that you need to try your best youngsters out if you are to grow as a club. I'm so sick of Moyes refusing to try playing any of our youngsters, I hope Moyes does refuse a new contract and heads off to Germany.
302 Posted 27/12/2012 at 17:37:55
312 Posted 27/12/2012 at 18:30:08
That is a step way too far!
314 Posted 27/12/2012 at 18:34:38
316 Posted 27/12/2012 at 18:33:17
Here is a link to our current hall of fame, there's a few yet to be included before Phil would get in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everton_F.C.
Top pro and still a valuable player though.
329 Posted 27/12/2012 at 19:31:06
"I cannot fathom why Moyes wants to him to go on playing" - I think you'll find that decision is down to Pip, and probably supported by his agent.
"He just wants to keep his captain around to spur the boys on" - er, no shit Sherlock, I reckon Paul Lambert would like a captain right now who does just that.
"And points his finger around yelling at his teammates" - and they're such a sensitive bunch, who does he think he is.....?
"Neville is no world beater either so any other midfielder can come in and do a better job" - oh let's see....Roysten Drenthe maybe....?
"At least Brendan Rogers..." - oh sod it I'm not even going to bother commenting on that one.
334 Posted 27/12/2012 at 20:17:05
Moyes has always protected his youngsters especially the better ones from being thrown into the battle too early.
Look at Osman, a player who is local has been here since a relatively young age, yet more than 10 years later is still the target of some sections of the Everton support.
Expectations of Barkley are way too high and, like it or not, the only opinion that matters is that of the manager... he decides.
336 Posted 27/12/2012 at 20:43:30
He's not a great player anymore (probably never was) but as a squad player you can rely on him to do the basics well, he very rarely is caught out of position and still has a very good tactical brain. Whilst he's not going to fizz 80 yard balls around he has less tangible qualities such as leadership, organisation and the desire to win that are not always apparent to your ubercritical Match of the Day fans. There was a reason why Redknapp wanted him at Spurs; would they have been so rudderless in the second half of last season had he been around on the scene?
Sickens me to see lads like Ossie, Neville, Hibbo, and Cahill who have sweated blood for Everton being slagged off in comparison to mercenaries like Drenthe, Fernandes and Jo who are still remembered fondly by some for some odd goal they scored or trick they did.
338 Posted 27/12/2012 at 20:59:55
I thought he played a blinder against Wigan, he was getting up and down the flank like a goodun.
People need to remember that his presence on the pitch far outweighs his deficits; it's no coincidence that we win more games than lose when he's in the side and I for one have no trouble calling him a legend.
Big Dunc is labeled a legend and he was either out injured or serving bans for assault on other players; long may he remain at the club.
345 Posted 27/12/2012 at 21:36:31
354 Posted 27/12/2012 at 22:46:52
360 Posted 27/12/2012 at 23:12:48
Look at how much Villa are struggling right now. They have a team full of kids (2 or 3 will probably eventually go on to do great things in football) but it just shows you that you can't actually win anything with kids! My point being that if we really want to push on to the next level we need players like Neville sticking around to help make that path for the likes of Barkley to come through.
And the comment about Brendan Rodgers doing it at Liverpool – well thank God he is because look how well that is turning out so far!
397 Posted 28/12/2012 at 03:48:37
That is an insult to Everton, our culture, our history, our legends, although admittedly from our Mount Everest WUM. OK: Dean, Sagar, Young, Hickson, Labone, Ball, Big Bob Latch?, Sheeds (God bless all who sail with him, love ya)... erm... erm... Neville, just trips off the tongue doesn't it? Only LB in the current shower has the scent of legend status.
Mong posting at its best or worst, take ya pick. The day Neville hangs up his sideways crab 1 foot to a guy in blue boots, will be a red — erm... blue letter day for my beloved club.
404 Posted 28/12/2012 at 07:26:31
A person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romanticized tales or exploits.
Therefore, based on this explanation, I guess Phil is not a legend. However, in my humble opinion, Phil Neville is a wonderful professional, his captaincy is superb and I truly think he has blue blood. He is a fantastic inspiration to younger players and has made the best of what he has.
He was okay on Saturday, though I would have preferred Coleman down the right flank with a bit more of pass-and-go but he did supply the cross for Jagielka's goal, though it looked more of a hopeful lob into the box I suppose.
Future Everton manager, I reckon.
414 Posted 28/12/2012 at 09:51:32
Mike Brierly wasn't a good batsman, or a good bowler, but when he was called into a losing English cricket team, as captain, they started winning. He was a winner, Nev is a winner. I didn't say this when we signed him, but started saying it soon after "Proud he became an Evertonian".
849 Posted 30/12/2012 at 07:28:21
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274 Posted 27/12/2012 at 16:00:31