Quite confusing post that mate?? You started off slating Moyes for his conduct etc. but then went on to lay the blame at the chairman's feet (which is how I was going to reply to your post).

Micky, when you have absentee Directors, it was easy for Moyes to act as he saw fit.

When you can't even get a simple badge redesign right, shit like this is par for the course.

Dan Gosling anyone?

Groundhog day on TW. It's been done to death. Yes it shouldn't have been allowed to happen, but as Kevin points out above, none of us were entirely surprised.

Yes the talk at the start of the season, then the "December" snippet, then the "after the transfer window in January" sketch, then the "see where we are at the end of the season".

But it all happened out of the blue (pun not intended) and he only had a day to decide to accept the 6 year contract on offer. Said the people who can tell you how many sleeps it is till Santa's next visit.

Micky, can't blame Moyes at all.

He was (like we all do) simply doing the best for himself.

ALL down to soft ollies...again!

Perhaps if there was a compensation requirement Moyes may have been less likely to succeed SAF, just as we could have done with Pereira when (to my personal incredulity) we opted to pay compensation to Wigan and their Rumpelstiltskin of a director, Dave Whelan. First he says we are not a big enough club for Roberto until suddenly we are the perfect fit!

At least now RM is shot of his deluded spinmaster supremo and he can get on with working for a fantastic club that is not encumbered by such dead weight & smoke-blowing distractions. Oh, hold on.......

Sign the contract or sod-off?

Surely that would have left us in an even worse position. If Moyes didn't take kindly to that sort of ultimatum and chose to walk, we'd still have lost him for nothing plus we'd probably have to compensate him for the premature termination of his contract.

Micky (OP). I was thinking that this afternoon:

Man Utd / Moyes / Everton - Dog Wags The Tail

Wigan / Martinez / Everton - Tail Wags The Dog

We got both ends of a shitty stick thanks to Kenwrights incompetence. I don't mind forking out for Martinez but letting Moyes run his contract down to nothing was inexcusable - he may as well have torn the money up and thrown it in the Mersey.

Look, this is not even a debate or argument, any chairman with any decency would not say "sign the contract or sod off", I mean, come on, Moyes reputation at everton was huge. They had an understanding with each other, he was going to sign a new deal at the end of the season, but when Man United came knocking, he couldn't turn down that chance. None of this matters anymore, David Moyes is now part of evertons history, we thank him for building us up, but he left everton at a level that is still not satisfactory for Everton Football Club, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

And what is your point anyway?, I mean, did you expect man united to pay us 10 million for Moyes just for the hell of it cos they got the money in the bank?!. There was no plan for him to leave, I mean, who would have thought Ferguson was going to quit, he had been there for 26 years.

But now we have Roberto Martinez, and whether we agree or not, we all know as evertonians, we get behind our team and manager, and I believe this strength at our club contributes massively to the club moving forward, so lets get behind Roberto, and do everything we can to help build on what we have done so far, aim for champions league, thats where the big money is, and the key to building big success for a club that belongs at the very top.

COYB, Good luck Roberto, we are proud to know our history, now lets be even more proud of the present and most importantly the future of this great football club!!.

Yes BK should have done this, DM should have done that. They didn't. What we should do is move on. The past cannot be changed. Focus on the now, tomorrow and the coming season. Please.

Aiden the club would have been between £3m-£4m better off and as far as two jobber's last days on the job actually doing his new Man U job right there is the ultimate debunking of this man of honour crap.

It's old news now. Let's move forward with Roberto. Case closed.

I personally will be quite happy when the name Moyes isn't mentioned on here again.Apart from when Martinez goes to old trafford and turns the miserable scottish twat and his red devils over ...

I think Gavin (187) has pretty much nailed it. Boardroom impotence of the highest order. Moyes can call all of the shots and get his feet under the table elsewhere whilst we pay his wages. WTF is that all about? Yet leaves with his integrity intact and us still misty-eyed over him. Long overdue that we move on and treat Moyes as he treated us in the final weeks when the big boys came knocking.

He was handsomely rewarded for his efforts so should now be persona non grata. We have a new manager who may not have been the first choice for many of us but has a lot of potential and deserves our complete support. I have said the same for our board in the past but they have more than used up their nine lives long prior to this!

I said early doors Moyes had played an absolute blinder on this one.

Debate will continue about his contribution to EFC but by god he could look after number one - done up like a kipper we were.

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Fucking Hell! I didn't know all the board members had trouble getting an erection! or having trouble producing children. I always thought it was there inability to produce funds, not an erection and sperm

Manager leaves part-way through his contract: manager gets slated for a lack of loyalty.

Manager stays to the completion his contract, then exercises his right to sign one elsewhere: manager gets slated for denying his former club compensation.

At face value (i.e. notwithstanding any Ferguson-Moyes phone conversations in the months to the start of May) Moyes has done absolutely nothing wrong. He has fulfilled his contractual obligation to EFC. I'm as gutted as the next fan that this means we lose him for nothing, but that's a risk you take in giving out fixed-term contracts.

Similarly he was under no obligation to sign another one, and this isn't the board's fault. What were they supposed to do? Strap Moyes to a chair, put a contract and a pen in front of him and hold a gun to his head?

For fucks sake, let it go please.
I know the Moyes out brigade are pissed off now they can't keep moaning about him, so now we're going to moan about him leaving?

Move on guys, you have the Martinez apagado brigada to assemble! ;-)

I thought EFC had agreed to to pay Moyes until the end of his contract on. 1st July.
If so then just another approx £200,000 to cough up to Manure's new manager of the last 4 weeks !

Chris, I will happily never mention the Man Utd manager again, It seems to me that those who wanted our ex coach gone are quite happy with the new manager, Some Evertonians, though, seem to find life without our former manager unthinkable.

Strange days ahead; there will be a new MOB with the motto of"we told you to be careful what you wished for". Or, perhaps"I hope you're all happy now".

So have we got two managers now? Moyes is presumably completing his contract & being paid until the end of the month & no doubt he'll pass on a few useful tips to Martinez, who I assume will start straight away & will have signed a contract starting with immediate effect. How other clubs must envy us, having two 'top' managers at the same time - Crikey!

Now the fun begins, it's SALE time and who is going coming. Never a dull moment, eh?

Mark Frere (225) Oh how intelligent and witty you are - except your definition of the word 'impotent' is not the absolute one, merely the one relating to a sexual context, for which this is blatantly inappropriate. Look it up and you might be surprised. Very amusing though.... erm, oh yes, back to the sensible subject

The point, for me, is not about whether we got compensation for Moyes' departure but whether we have acted spineless in continuing to pay the guy over £75,000 per week to attend Manchester United's training ground and work with their staff but not ours. That means we will have paid him almost £620,000 for that eight week period when he has been on their premises doing apparently zero work for us. On top of that we gave the guy a send-off worthy of only Harry Catterick and Howard Kendall Mk I.

Until someone can tell me Moyes has waived his earnings for those two months I will continue to think we have been royally screwed and dispute his 'honest, nice guy' tag

Kenwirght should have given Moyes an ultimatum last summer after the 2 capitulations to the loveables and the fact that he wouldn't rule himself out of a move to Spurs. And Moyes has been a hypocrite and done the exact same thing he publicly slated Pienaar and Gosling for doing.

That aside, Lee (402) has got it spot on - Moyes has been pocketing money for doing zero work with the club since the end of the season and will continue to do so for another month. Contracts being what they are he should have been put on gardening leave and not allowed to bed in at one of our rivals. If he can't do us a good turn in agreeing to terminate his contract early we shouldn't be allowing him to work at United - if I was to leave my job for a competitor there's no way I'd be on the payroll while checking out my new job!

The board is weak, but Moyes has played upon this for his own benefit - and if these stories of £10million for Baines are true he really will be undoing all of the goodwill he has built up with us!

Anyway, balls to him, balls to them, genuinely excited at the prospect of Martinez instilling a more attack-minded approach, we saw what we were capable of at the start of last season with our attacking play so let's pick up from there.

The only thing that's wrong with this situation is that Moyes is effectively working for Man Utd whilst still being paid by Everton.

The reason people sign contracts is to ensure employment during the course of the contract. Kenwright couldn't force Moyes to sign another contract so we could 'sell' him to Man Utd. And if we'd have called Moyes bluff and told him to sign or be given the bullet and he'd have chosen the latter we would have had to pay him out. In effect we were in a lose/lose situation.

In reality it's good to see that Kenwright paid the price to get the manager he wanted rather than take the easy option of appointing the best manager he could get for free.

However, given all of the above, it's quite unusual for anyone involved in football to see out their contract then walk away to something else. We're all so used to players being bought by the highest bidder even though they've previously signed their life away for the next few years.

Welcome to Goodison, Roberto, I think we're headed for bigger and better results and I'm looking forward to the start of the season. Just think, of our 15 draws last season, if we'd have won 9 and lost 6 we'd be in the CL next year.

His contract was running out and one of the biggest and richest clubs on the planet wanted him to replace the most successful manager of all time......hmmm...stick around and help out Everton, or go & replace SAF??

Tough call, but I'd have been off with David Moyes.

It seems you're annoyed by DM leaving because you wanted some money out of it? All this stuff about compensation is bullshit - have you never heard of a gentleman's agreement?

Moyes and Kenwright had a good working relationship, and they showed each other the respect they mutually have for each other (whatever our opinions on one or both of them) and you should respect that as well.

It really is time to let David Moyes go and start building up your dislike of Roberto Martinez.

Save your energy, you might need it.

Hello all.

As far as I can see we have a very good working relationship with Man United, and have done for quite some years. Now granted, they got Moyes for bugger all but, on the other side of the coin, we got Darren Gibson for I think about half a mill. Now this to me greatly outweighs the loss of Moyes, because A) I didn't like him and his footballing ideals, and B) Gibbo is absolute class and is our modern version of Peter Reid , absolute bargain, top class player.

So some you win some to lose. Moyes IMO is no great loss while Gibbo was a steal

Kevin Jones, yeah but we have had to put up with Neville and Howard... but that's got nothing to do with the post. Here's another way of looking at it: Moyes was not fired, as with other clubs, eg, Newcastle have sacked a good few manager's in the time Moyes was here, so no compensation to pay out. Plus some may argue Moyes saved us a few quid on transfer dealings and league finishes, so what do people want? Move on.