"Just read the post back and I don't know whether to get depressed or not."

Play "Spot the typo(s)"?

In all seriousness it will be good to get away from the manager speculation - it's been like groundhog day for weeks.

I don't think we'll ever be truly rid of him though. You just know the MOB will be all over his every dropping of points at OT, the Apologists vice versa, and God forbid if he does come calling for our players - may be time to go TW Cold Turkey then!

Matt, lets hope that the editors ban "mob" and "apologist" untill Roberto has had a fair go.

The end of September at least.

Make do Kieran? Best time of the year now the championship is in full swing.

Can we start the transfer speculation now?

Well Kone has a 6.5m release clause and McManaman has sell on clause which makes him cheapest to us. Not a bad place to start the order of business.

Just because we have Wigan's old manager, why do we assume we should buy their players?

Did any of you want any of their relegated players before RM was appointed? Seems like a weird way of thinking to me.

Yes James...I did, I expect many people did. McManaman was superb in the second half of the season...is only 22, and could form a fantastic long term partnership with Coleman on the right. I really like Kone...but think 6.5m given his age may be slightly problematic. I also, along with many on ToffeeWeb I expect, was impressed with Maloney.

I don't see why Everton should not be interested in relegated players? Personally, I'd like Remy, if the allegations about him are bullshit and was impressed with Ceasar. Not all players from relegated teams were to blame for their respective club's failures.

Fair enough.

Personally I don;t believe any of them are much kop. McManaman has a bad attitude, and one of his tackles earlier in the season was nothing short of shocking.

Yeah he has some ability, but he's a raw one-trick pony in my opinion - dropping your shoulder and running fast worked well for Theo Walcott for about a year too but he soon got found out.

As for Kone - well he's 29 and scored 11 goals in 33 games last year.

It's fair to say we have enough mediocre players at Everton already.

I'm with James. I wouldn't have any of the old boys. I don't think RM is that bothered either.

James (518)

I hope I've misread your post....

.....are you saying you wouldn't have Remy (if he's innocent) at Everton?!??

I'm in total agreement with James 518

Why on earth would a manager with this massive ambition go back to the small mediocre club, relegated under his tenure and put together with cast offs who have shown themselves up as a team able to motivate themselves for a big cup game every 3 weeks from January

Mcmanaman is Coleman 3 years ago,kone? I think people have a strange understanding of football if they want this fella to shoot us into the champions league

Truth is there is not one player at that club who would improve any position in our strongest side

As for Remy? Another overpaid mercenary(he signed for QPR ffs) giving black players a bad name

That's all for now......god it's hot!!!

Gavin#522 - I wouldn't touch Loic Remy with a barge-pole.

He's an overrated mercenary (as mentioned above) who thinks he's way better than he really is.

He strikes me as being another of those players with a bad attitude - there's an awful lot more to signing players than just their ability in my opinion. It isn't just about what they can do with a football - you have to consider their temperament, attitude, background, family life, etc etc.

Remy? No thanks.

McManaman tore apart City and many other teams and will go on to great things. Yes he made one bad tackle but since when has that meant a bad attitude? He is also a blue which is always nice. It is important to have players from the city who know what the derby means in the squad. Hence Moyes retaining Osman and Hibbert for so long. To describe him as a one trick pony wow! Clearly didn't watch the Semi final when his composed finish put us out of our misery. He is nothing like Coleman or Walcott and doesn't even play in the same position!

McCathy is also on the radar of Spurs, Arsenal etc

From QPR Remy and Cesar will go on to big clubs. To discard players from relegated teams is stupidity of the highest order. Sides that go down always have their best players cherrypicked.

Case in point - see Royston Drenthe.

I don't believe that relegated players should not be considered, though any players who have caught the eye in the premiership are likely to be poorer value than their European counterparts.

Wigans best player for the last few seasons has been James McCarthy and I think he would be an improvement in that he is a slightly superior version of Gibson, or so the stats suggest.

However Gibson is still solid, McCarthy will likely be expensive and I think a striker or maybe playmaker is where we most lack.

If Martinez can find something like Michu and (a cheaper) Cazorla that would be nice!

Its all about opinions, James.

I don't rate McManaman based on him playing well for 10 games. Give him another year to develop and we'll see - right now he's raw and only has one trick. You seem (seem) to be basing your opinion on two games, and one goal.

He needs to prove it for longer - we've all seen loads of players come & go and Everton won't splash the cash on players unless they know they're getting proven ability proven over time.

From what I remember, Walcott, Coleman and McManaman all play on the right.

James 529

You were obviously watching a different game as we never got to the semi final did we

Just being pedantic forgive me,however I stand by what I said,McManaman is a chicken with no head but if you know he's heading for great things can you get me the euro lottery numbers for Friday

Cheers!!

Aiden McGeady seems to be rumour number 1

Peter, as you well know, it's all about opinions, I feel that McCarthy would fit into our midfield,
I won't say in place of who, as its my opinion, so I will keep it to myself.

Norman 538

Would he improve our strongest team?

Roberto can actually set his standards a little above the standards of Wigan Athletic now

Aiden McGeady has been rumour number one for every team in the Premier League for about 3 years so I guess it's bound to be us at some point.

I'm not sure of the policy of not signing relegated players.

Didn't we once sign a Polish-sounding fella from Sheffield United in the summer of 2007 ?

How did that one turn out then ?

Instead of labelling such players as "failures" for playing badly enough to get their team relegated, how about viewing them as needing a fresh start, and having a point to prove.

For what it's worth, I would happily welcome McManaman to Goodison. He would certainly improve our right hand side, has more than one trick, and can catch pigeons. We can't afford the finished article, so this is the type of player that we need to take a calculated gamble on.

Your question would he improve our strongest team?
In my humble opinion yes, because as a player, McCarthy is a box to box player for 90minutes, not a 65/70 min like the man in possession for most of Moyes tenure.
And the chance of Moyes taking him to Old Trafford, is Zilch.

Peter 569

I seem to remember the polish sounding fella struggling when he first came and kept our bench warm when he wasn't doing an appalling job in midfield,the centre half thing was more luck than anything

And Norman whatever you say,he's box to box really? Like you said opinions and all that,who does he replace from our STRONGEST team?

If I was Bobby M, I'd force BK to get on the blower to Red Devil Davey (Not that kind of conversation Bill!) and get Zaha on loan, as it is clear that he won't be used next season.