Cycling mogul's admiration for Moyes

Probably about the same as Moyes knows about putting together a successful professional cycling team.

I'm sure the clubs physios and fitness and psychologists know nothing about putting a football squad together either.

Agreed.

Following this logic, it could rightly be assumed that his comments simply stem from what he's read/heard in the press about our club and illustrious manager; and so, yes – he probably does know fuck all about the true goings on at GP and is just another who has been 'media-brainwashed' into believing Moyes in one of the greatest managers on the planet (who no other 'big' club has ever come in for btw).

He probably things BK has done a stirling job maximising the clubs revenue as well and keeping the club going in the face of such adversity!

Unless you have a different view?

You would have thought that somebody at the very top of their sport saying something complimentary about our manager would have been received with a bit better grace.

I do, there's whole threads on here devoted to what we all think of other managers. granted its not going to be as in depth as fans of that actual club but its certainly going to be a lot more detailed than someone just reading the backpages of the paper every Sunday isn't it? He might have even gone to a match or whole seasons of matches and watched Moyes's Everton in some of them.

Last of all he may of course have just looked at our league placings in the Premier League era pre-Moyes, then looked at them again during Moyes, taken the figure of his net spend in relation to his competitors around him and surmised all by himself without anyone holding his hand that he's done a good job.

The most likely suggestion though OF COURSE is that he has fallen susceptible to the charms of Hansen and Lawrenson and is merely parroting back what they say.Just because people don't believe with some of the views offered forward on here, no matter how vehemently they're 'offered', doesn't mean that they're in some way in the sway of the media and are therefore incapable of independent thought. (This is of course putting aside the different argument of whether or not you think everyone in the football industry who approves of the job Moyes has done is also wrong, but perhaps that's best left alone.)

However, without understanding what he's based his assessment on, the opinion is meaningless. I'm also capable of independent thought and so could also write a speculative list of ways in which he may have come to form such an opinion... but, unless we send the list to him for confirmation, it would seem a bit pointless.

Maybe this is what he admires? Hahaha...

Now, if the new governor of the bank of England were to say that he thought Kenwright was doing a shite job, well that might be relevant.

Attention to detail is everything with this man. I'm certain his opinions are based on more than just a passing interest in football. He's not trying to tell anybody that he is a football expert, just he admires the job Moyes has done on a limited budget. Really, it's undeniable that continually coming in the top 4-8 positions with a net spend of £3m a season is some achievement and seemingly something only serial moaners on this site are incapable of seeing.

Why let facts, such as league positions, the opinions of many others much better qualified to opine, and the fact that the 2000s have been so much better than the previous 13/14 years of drivel, get in the way unsubstantiated bias.

Apparently, Moyes must be rubbish because he loses the odd game here and there... that just doesn't happen to teams with good managers... does it

This season the Blues have played the best football since the 80s IMO. Sure, I'm disappointed to be 6th (and yes I can reel off all the dropped points) but, of course, that has nothing to do with the size or comparative quality of the squad. No it must be due to Moyes being a tactical imbecile.

Clearly, some of us wouldn't want reality to prevent us from scapegoating the best manager we have had since HK Mk1.

I was under the impression the UK team were able to train full time, whilst their competitors were basically amateur?

On Toffeeweb and after 11 years of "tactical ineptitude"

Surely – it can't be that the MOB is unrepresentative of mainstream fans.....

Hang on – it must be another conspiracy!

Some of these comments betray a desperation to grasp at any praise of Moyes as some kind of justification for holding a favourable opinion of him. Surely if people feel happy with Moyes & feel he's the best man for the job, they don't need vindication from a third party.

Like many others. I believe Moyes has done a good job, by & large, but I think he reached his peak some time ago. Some may feel this is as good as it's going to get & would prefer to carry on as things are rather than face the risks inherent in any change of manager. However, I have no expectation that Everton will ever win anything whilst Moyes is manager & feel it's necessary to take the risk of changing manager if there is to be any hope of changing our prospects of success.

If Moyes really did "an unbelievable job", he'd be at one of the rich clubs winning silverware. He's not, because the people in charge of those football clubs wont offer him a job, because he's quite seriously flawed as a football manager and is highly unlikely to ever win any trophies.

His time at Everton is likely to be the pinnacle of his career.

Gary, why let the facts over 40 odd specific games get in the way of a good story eh?

Have I missed a new TW development???

Kevin Tully — yes,there has been lottery funding for British Cycling that wasn't there before, but we have only been playing catch-up with many other countries rather than outspending them. And, of course, as Roberto Mancini or Kenny Dalglish will be able to testify, just spending money like water doesn't guarantee you anything other than hugely raised expectations. It's what you do with these resources that matters, and I think you'll find that Dave Brailsford was merely praising Moyes for what he had achieved with comparatively few resources.

I'm a keen Road Cyclist myself and it's a great sport, just like football. I can't imagine somebody from the football world praising somebody in the cycling world would find his comments returned with sarcasm, rudeness and no manners by cycling fans....

If so it's fairly desperate...