David Moyes content with Jake O’Brien at right back

Garner at right-back probably would be my preferred choice right now but even he can't get up and down the flanks like a modern-day full-back should be.

O'Brien at right-back has run its course; he did a sound job in the second half of last season but it's been rumbled now.

Was it lack of trying or negligence?

Moyes loves his round pegs.

Senti(mental).

Happy with the group.
Need more quality in our play.
Need to work harder.
No easy games in the Premier League.
Referees have a difficult job
The rival manager has done a great job.

Anyone getting worked up on these non-events needs to chill out. The only vaguely interesting bit, is the injury updates, and that's a stretch.

Three league cup quarter-finals with West Ham, one with Everton, in the only year they advanced to the semi-final under Moyes's tenure, and one semi-final for Manchester United.

In the 24 years of FA Cup football, he's got a final, one other semi-final, and one other quarter-final, all with Everton.

Accepting managers like David Moyes is an acceptance of respectability, with a certain knowledge that has been built up over many years not to expect anything more.

How can others believe if we don't believe it ourselves?

It's incredibly sad how much life has been sucked out of Everton Football Club over the last three decades. The longer we accept it, then the less chance we have got of ever becoming the Everton of yesteryear ever again.

How many people can genuinely say that, at the minute, they are happy watching Jake O'Brien playing as a full-back?

"When they said top 10 was okay. No ambition. We were sleepwalking into mediocrity. Whatever happens now is down to the chairman and owners we have had."

We blame the Red Shite for killing us with the Heysel ban.
They got over it. We accepted mediocrity. Even now, the squad is better than mid-table. We should demand it.

- For so long as we don't have a competitive budget, Moyes is a good fit.

- for so long as Moyes is our manager, we won't win anything.

I think this means our lack of silverware etc is about 75% money and 25% Moyes.

And for balance, every single Premier League club apart from the consistently richest 5 has been relegated in the Premier League era. So the strange thing is not so much our lack of silverware, it's the fact we haven't been relegated.

Moyes did some very good work to spare us that indignity -- and will probably do much the same for a team reduced to about 11 Premier League standard players by the end of June (and only the 13th highest expenditure for the rebuild).

Lots of people wanted Pereira, Potter and others after all...

Yes, Fiji sounds great. But imagine if the plane crashes, a tsunami hits, or you get bitten by a poisonous sea snake?

At least at Butlin's you know you've got your camper, the Carling Black label on tap is cheap, and they have fish and chips on Friday night. What more could you ask for?

We are fucking Everton, or at least we used to be. Proud, dignified, sporting, but also with that inner belief and a determination that we were better than anyone.

Luck played a part in us not being relegated, but so did the defiant belief that was generated by the younger generation of Evertonians who have completely stood the test of time and deserve so much better.

These are the people who wanted Moyes because he was the best they have seen and coming 7th made us respectable.

I'm aware it's a long way back but I also have a belief that nothing is impossible when it comes to Everton FC. This belief is slowly dying and it's been slowly dying for years but, when you care about something enough, it will never truly die, so let's just start believing and fighting like Everton again.

This doesn't start with the fans, which was something David Moyes requested before the Spurs game, but it starts with the team playing with belief and on the front foot, especially for a set of supporters who have completely stood the test of time and know more than anyone what they want to see out of a team wearing the blue shirts of Everton.

Fucking hell, I feel like driving to Sunderland after writing this. Come on the fucking Toffees!!!

That post Tony put up about his record in cup competitions is absolutely embarrassing and Moyes should feel ashamed by it, what's the point in football if you don't try and win every match or competition?

But don't forget in Skegy they'll be able to get a few holes of crazy golf in.

First snog, first sneaky pint, saw Live and Let Die on its release, and caught loads of mackerel off the rocks.

Happy days!

You should get a job on their marketing team.

"He (Martinez) had us competing for the Top 4 and cups."

As opposed to Moyes, who had us in the Top 4 and a cup final?

The football under Martinez was entertaining at times, but he was bonkers. People have selective memories. No emphasis on defence. No practice of set pieces. Name another manager on the planet who would bring on a debutant striker from a very different league to protect a win? Especially when that striker is Niasse?

I wasn't keen on Moyes returning but he brings a degree of stability and safety while we rebuild. A lower risk option for now. He's got to solve the striker situation soon, I admit, but it's still relatively early in the season. Those who hate him will keep ranting when we lose, I understand that, but let's keep the rose-tinted specs off. We sacked Martinez because his football was reckless. He was torn apart on here. Especially his phenomenal interviews after a loss.

What a wonderful guy, but I have never missed him for a minute.

Jake does well at times but we all know his true position lies in the centre.

Garner could fit in for now but also wouldn't be a permanent fix.

However for the most part the back line has done well all things considered.

Elsewhere we have been less than adequate.

Rhol, given a run might just help improve the middle of midfield.

Offensively,too much has been put on the shoulders of Ndiaye and Grealish and there doesn't seem to be anyway to improve that situation as yet.

They will need to hang tough today o earn at least a point.

It absolutely amazes me the jobs that Martinez has had since, because I thought he was out of his depth at Everton, and yet he has since been given two of the biggest jobs in football.

I personally thought that he underachieved with Belgium, so to then be given the Portuguese job, makes me think that he his one very lucky manager.

Maybe I’m wrong because he has already won a trophy with Portugal, which is no mean feat when you look at the strength of some of the European teams.

I drove down county rd earlier today, and the amount of Evertonians, waiting outside The Brick and Segoura, to board their coaches to Sunderland, made me proud. I just hope these incredibly loyal supporters, get something to celebrate later on tonight🤞

Moyes: "Err, no. Truth be told, I don't think Seamus has got the pace for the Premier League, especially for 90 minutes which is a real shame because Jake is being played out of position and just not good enough as a full-back."

But we got: “He's never been out of my thinking but in the main the form of big Jake's been very good, we've not had any reason to do it."

Can you imagine what it would do to Seamus and Jake if Moyes had said the above. Of course he is going to back Jake.

Both defensively and attacking-wise, Jake is not a bad player but he is not a right-back.

Moyes was here for 11 years -- hardly a roaring success, is he? Martinez done it in less than 3 years,