Everton will turn to Cardiff boss Malky Mackay if David Moyes leaves

Patrick Murphy
402 Posted 21/04/2013 at 00:12:14

So, if David Moyes decides to leave, the name high on the Board's list is yet another no nonsense Scot in the shape of none other than Malky Mackay....ffs is this the best we can do, maybe Basil Brush wasn't such a bad choice after all.

I think I'll start my summer holidays now and tell someone to contact me when the new season begins.

Phil Sammon
418 Posted 21/04/2013 at 01:40:40

I'd rather have McClaren than this scummy wanker. Absolutely hate Cardiff and this prick can do one.

Peter Thistle
421 Posted 21/04/2013 at 02:17:08

Utter bullshit story.

Richard Styles
428 Posted 21/04/2013 at 04:30:26

I`d Rather have Harry Redknapp and I fucking hate him...

John Nelson
451 Posted 21/04/2013 at 08:37:29

Haha replace a dire Scot with... Another dire Scot!

Knee jerk bullshit reaction from the papers after our capitulation yesterday.

Paul Olsen
457 Posted 21/04/2013 at 08:53:48

Wouldn´t Mackay prefer to work with actual money at Cardiff?

Carl Bloxam
461 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:00:27

I didn't know who Moyes was when he signed last decade. I was disappointed with the signing to be honest. The best thing we did in my lifetime (outside of signing Paul Rideout).

Whoever we sign, if we do need to at the end of the season, I'm going to get behind them... As much as I can from New Zealand anyway.

James Stewart
466 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:14:59

This one is so bad there probably could be some truth in it. If Kenwright wasn't in charge of picking our next man I would welcome the departure of Moyes

Andrew Yates
467 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:17:27

It's all poppycock, I hope it's poppycock, please tell me it's poppycock!!??

Tony J Williams
473 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:23:51

Fucks sake.

Andy Meighan
483 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:34:01

Out of the frying pan into the fire. I'd rather have Kendall back than another mundane jock

Al Reddish
501 Posted 21/04/2013 at 09:47:51

I am sure Bill has this all sorted. If Moyes goes (hopefully he won't), Bill will come out with the shit that the new manager can have a huge kitty to spend on transfers as a buy out is just around the corner, just to boost them last minute season ticket sales. Only to then claim that other operating costs have swallowed most of the kitty, but the new man can have half of the Fellaini money (who was in Bill's office in tears begging to go as Middlesborough are a big club) and announce a prestigious pre-season friendly at home against none other than F.A. Cup Finalists Wigan with our new manager Steve Bruce (who Bill claims to have the big game experience to take our club on) proudly showing off his new signings Kevin Phillips and Wayne Bridge.
On a side note, I heard Talk Sport mention this morning they have had a tip off Moyes will go as the funds offered to him this summer will not be enough in Moyes mind to progress any further than he has already taken us. Looks like the extra £20m TV money this season has already been 'ring fenced.'

Colin Glassar
510 Posted 21/04/2013 at 10:20:02

I can see this being another monumental BK/Moyes fuckup.
Nightmare scenario A). Both will dither over the contract situation until the start of the new season when Moyes will inform BK that chesterfield, Alloa athletic and Crewe were the only teams to make him a firm offer during the summer and he now wants to stay, but only if his contract is improved and he is given funds to improve the squad.
BK offers Moyes a 12 shillings p/w increase (yes that's 12 bob in old money) in his contract plus 5% of what he can get from selling Fellaini, Baines and Mirallas.
Moyes finally discovers he has a pair of testicles and rejects BK's "generous offer" and immediately applies for JSA. Pip Neville is named interim manager for 5 years and offers his mate, David Beckham, a 15 year play whenever you feel like contract. Nev also decides to play until he's sixty.

Nightmare scenario B). Moyes decides to stay after losing most of our remaining games and finishing 7th behind the rs. Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas, Coleman, Barkley, Duffy and Pienaar are all sold for a combined total of £31.2m to old friend, Sir Alex ferguson as Moyes considered them to be "too flamboyant for my liking. I need grafters who can head the ball 100 yards and can run the London marathon in the morning and then play a game in the afternoon". Moyes makes huge offers for 8 scottish centre halves and a Moldovan goalie . Phil Neville is named captain for life and Naismith is named 1st choice striker.

Best case scenario. Moyes shows some dignity and fucks off in may, hopefully with bk, nev and fucking Naismith. Basil Brush is named interim chairman/manager until we can get a chairman ith some business acumen and a manager who has some fire in his belly and some tactical nous. Anyone interested?

Colin Glassar
511 Posted 21/04/2013 at 10:20:02

I can see this being another monumental BK/Moyes fuckup.
Nightmare scenario A). Both will dither over the contract situation until the start of the new season when Moyes will inform BK that chesterfield, Alloa athletic and Crewe were the only teams to make him a firm offer during the summer and he now wants to stay, but only if his contract is improved and he is given funds to improve the squad.
BK offers Moyes a 12 shillings p/w increase (yes that's 12 bob in old money) in his contract plus 5% of what he can get from selling Fellaini, Baines and Mirallas.
Moyes finally discovers he has a pair of testicles and rejects BK's "generous offer" and immediately applies for JSA. Pip Neville is named interim manager for 5 years and offers his mate, David Beckham, a 15 year play whenever you feel like contract. Nev also decides to play until he's sixty.

Nightmare scenario B). Moyes decides to stay after losing most of our remaining games and finishing 7th behind the rs. Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas, Coleman, Barkley, Duffy and Pienaar are all sold for a combined total of £31.2m to old friend, Sir Alex ferguson as Moyes considered them to be "too flamboyant for my liking. I need grafters who can head the ball 100 yards and can run the London marathon in the morning and then play a game in the afternoon". Moyes makes huge offers for 8 scottish centre halves and a Moldovan goalie . Phil Neville is named captain for life and Naismith is named 1st choice striker.

Best case scenario. Moyes shows some dignity and fucks off in may, hopefully with bk, nev and fucking Naismith. Basil Brush is named interim chairman/manager until we can get a chairman ith some business acumen and a manager who has some fire in his belly and some tactical nous. Anyone interested?

James Stewart
522 Posted 21/04/2013 at 11:23:50

If Moyes gets offered the Schalke job (which may already have happened) then he will probably be off and who can blame him.

A bigger worry is we will be left with Billy liar picking his next stooge. Expect a Mackay or similar as there will be no white knight with the next Klopp on it. Left upto Bill it will be someone who can manage expectations without exceeding them.

Ray Roche
526 Posted 21/04/2013 at 11:37:45

It's already been on Talkshite, Basil Brush is in line for the Schalke job. It was also on Fox news....

Paul Ellam
532 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:03:28

I think Moyes will stay and Mackay will stay

Jon Withey
533 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:09:07

Doubt Moyes will get a moneybags job in the PL. He might go abroad to a well run club with decent finances. Otherwise he'll stay, we'll lose our biggest assets (Felli, Baines) and some of that money will go into rebuilding the team. Given that I can't think of a manager I'd rather have than Moyes with our finances... the latter sounds better than the alternatives.

It would be better if we had so much money that it would be impossible to get relegated with anyone at the helm... but that's not the case right now is it.

Steve Pugh
534 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:17:11

I predict an out of left field appointment. Ex Toffee, dire Scot, achieved relative success on a limited budget. Ladies and Gentleman I give you the one, the only, Stuart McCall.

Ross Edwards
537 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:29:51

We got lucky once appointing a Championship manager 11 years ago, and it worked, but it won't work a second time. Malky has just got Cardiff promoted, he would have to be a fool to want to leave there.
If Moyes goes to Schalke, then Auf Wiedersehen Laddie.

Ray Said
538 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:33:02

Steve-Stuart McCall is not a dire Scot, he is fromYorkshire

Brent Stephens
540 Posted 21/04/2013 at 12:47:13

I guess it was meant to be dour not dire. But in any case, Scot, Yorkie, dour, dire.

Terry Myers
551 Posted 21/04/2013 at 13:25:08

Look, i'll probably get called for everything and I actually hate the twat but what about the unthinkable??

Benitez??

Tony Twist
565 Posted 21/04/2013 at 14:30:40

There is probably a bit of truth in the rumour but why on earth would he come to us? We need a total change of direction, moving eventually to youngsters becoming first-teamers after professional coaching from experts, not ex-Everton players, who can teach technique and how to play more than one way. Poyet may be a good choice if Brighton fail to come up.

Dean Barton
574 Posted 21/04/2013 at 14:49:31

You heard it here first.... Our next manager will be Martin O'Neill....

I swear if that happens I'm giving my season ticket back.

Ross Edwards
575 Posted 21/04/2013 at 14:55:44

Why don't we show some ambition to get out of the "Doddy zone" and get someone like Rijkaard, who is OUT OF WORK, so he will cost nothing, and it would make Billy Boy look good.
Rijkaard in.

John Scott
582 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:15:40

Mackay is almost a carbon copy of Moyes.

Really? I don't remember a Moyes team winning the Championship.

Andrew Ellams
586 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:33:05

After this weekends results they can resurrect Fulton Mackay for all I care if it means Moyes fucks off

Ross Edwards
587 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:32:16

Dean
"Martin O'Neill will be our next manager"
You haven't just plucked a name out the air have you?

Andrew Ellams
590 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:36:58

Ross, maybe no substantial evidence to back up Dean's claim but at the same time I wouldn't be prepared to bet against it either

Patrick Murphy
592 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:38:53

Now that we are playing for 6th place I honestly believe that David Moyes should tell Bill Kenwright and the board what his intentions are this coming week. If he decides to leave then fair enough he can have a pleasant send-off in our last home game of the season, if he decides to stay then also fine then the club can start planning for next season

Brent Stephens
596 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:47:33

Dean. "You heard it here first.... Our next manager will be Martin O'Neill....
I swear if that happens I'm giving my season ticket back".

That "if" sounds as if you don't really know. And here's me starting to think you might have inside info.

Ross Edwards
599 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:34:30

I think the managers linked with us can be put into 3 groups:

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Walter....
Moyes staying
McLeish
McClaren
Allardyce
Round
Phil Neville
Ally McCoist

Possibility:

Bilic
Ole Solsjaer
Zola
Steve Clarke
Mackay
Lennon
Martinez
Poyet
O'Neill
Hughton

Oh yes please, we'll bite your hand off:

Rijkaard
Bielsa
AVB
Deschamps
Blanc
Mourinho (!)
Laudrup

Barry Rathbone
602 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:47:56

"Mackay is almost a carbon copy of Moyes. Both Scots, they share the same hard-graft, no-nonsense qualities."

If this is true of the man (I have no idea) it's terrifying news.

This club needs inspiration no more Mcleish, Mcarthy, Moyes fear driven football.

Tony Marsh
603 Posted 21/04/2013 at 16:01:52

Let's have Gus Poyet up here – at least we will see some proper footy. Seeing a bit of decent stuff is the least we can expect if we expect to win fuck all ever again.

If there's to be no trophies and no good footy played, then what is the point of any of it?

Gavin Ramejkis
605 Posted 21/04/2013 at 15:59:56

With Calamity Kenshite in charge, it'll be some twat like Gary Megson or Mark Hughes.

Vinny Garstrokes
714 Posted 21/04/2013 at 18:48:19

Please god let it not be Sparky Hughes that would be the death knell for me. I actually want DM to stay but have resigned myself to him leaving. With that in mind, my one hope for the rest of the season is that we win the derby handsomely and don't on any count qualify for any type of european football next season. With DM gone and probably 2 or even 3 of our headline players, it will leave the incumbent manager with a small squad, little money to strengthen in the summer due to the sales cheques being made out directly to HSBC, and the nightmare scenario of starting the season in late July.

Geoff Edwards
727 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:05:45

Tony Marsh, you have hit the nail well and truly on the head. It's similar to our away trips to the 'big' teams; we never win there anyway, so why not just have a go?

Geoff Edwards
730 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:07:28

I don't think Hughes is such a bad manager tbd. Did well at B'burn and Fulham

Patrick Murphy
735 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:09:53

My personal preference would be Zola, he knows the English game is well liked and has played the game at the top end of the league. But we probably won't take that much of a gamble.

Geoff Edwards
740 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:15:38

Thomas Tuchel would be my choice. Great young manager, works well with youth, bold philosophy, tactical encyclopedia, would bite the hand of someone offering him Moyes' wages. Wouldn't expect a goon like Kenwright to have even heard of him though.

Dean Barton
760 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:34:47

Sorry guys, it wasn't meant to be insider info or anything like that. Just sounding off. Whether we like it or not though his name has to be thrown into the hat. I couldn't think of much worse though.

I would be happy with someone like Malky Mackay though. I would love us to get Gus Poyet tbh, has his teams play good football and always done well wherever he has been.

Thomas Windsor
771 Posted 21/04/2013 at 19:45:51

I like Martin Jol myself; I think he could be a great manager for Everton.

Sam Hoare
802 Posted 21/04/2013 at 20:35:40

Wigan go down. Moyes leaves. Martinez comes.

John Whalley
895 Posted 21/04/2013 at 23:55:09

I'd like to see Hoddle back in the big time.

Paul Dark
951 Posted 22/04/2013 at 09:41:00

We'd be aiming far too low with Malky Mackay - as bad as Martinez or Mark Hughes. Swansea appoint Laudrup, and we aim for the managers of QPR, Cardiff, Wigan etc. [shakes head in disbelief]. I do believe BK loves the club, but he lacks drive.

Moyes's dithering (where have we hard that before about the great man?) is humiliating for the club and confirms (if proof really be needed) that he always puts himself before us: no class.

Few chairmen, the timid and gutless Kenwright aside, would tolerate it.

Christopher Dover
956 Posted 22/04/2013 at 09:52:27

Well glad I am on an Everton supporters site. Had to look at the title to make sure. They say be careful what you wish for, yes it may well be time for Moyes to leave, but remember as frustrating as it is (boy it is) Everton are in the top half of the league. If you get your way and a new exciting manager arrives, gets rid of the older brigade and brings In new (very inexpensive) players who play exciting football and drop to lower division hope you will all be on here telling the rest of us how excited you are to watch the good constructive football we are now playing in the championship. Somehow-- I do not believe you would. But you never know, some say prefer to be involved in a relegation fight each year as more exciting than top six or eight.

Dennis Stevens
957 Posted 22/04/2013 at 10:02:03

Christopher, if that were the case - & there's no particular reason to assume it will be, other than the 'Moyes is a one of a kind miracle worker' view - then I suspect that folk will be on here saying the Board have made a poor job of selecting Moyes' replacement.

My money's on David Jones - unless the buy-out is too high!

Kevin Tully
964 Posted 22/04/2013 at 10:57:42

It looks like the bookies think Moyes is staying, or they haven't got a clue who will be our next boss.

They are offering 6/4 on Martinez, after that it's anyone's guess. Neville is next fav. @16/1, then Redknapp @ 20/1 - and as far as Mackay goes you can get 33/1.

Sean McCarthy
084 Posted 22/04/2013 at 20:23:32

Why Martinez?? Perennial relegation battlers. He might look/sound good on telly but other than that can someone tell me why all the fuss over him??

Jim Williams
238 Posted 23/04/2013 at 17:04:00

Bring back Joe Royle... he knows what Evertonians want... and pair him up with Phil Neville or another hungry young intelligent coach who could learn..... and win. It worked for Joe Mercer and Malcolm Allison .... why not?

Paul Ferry
259 Posted 23/04/2013 at 18:47:18

I see it now, Pete Barry (live forum Norwich H 22 October 2015) We gotta bin 'depressing, dour, dreary, dickless, drab, dull, desperate, defence-minded, dickhead Malky, the fucker is killing our club like that gobshite Moyes. 2-0 down to Delia's boys at home, not one pot-shot at goal, fucking Osman, why do we keep raiding the Manure bargain bucket, Carrick is a sideways crab, and why did we ever take Rooney back, 4 goals in 33 games, that's fucking jelly-land, and his link-up play with Saha is shocking.
Fuck me, I'm going to the beach'.

No, no, no, not Jol for the love of God, I can't stand his voice, he's creepy, his face is too big, not great footie reasons, I know, cosmetic for sure, but NO.

Me? If only: one from Laudrup, Poyet, Zola?, an unknown Portuguese guy, the fat Spanish waiter (oops), anyone who doesn't sport dinky little grey waistcoats.

Reality? one from Martinez, Mackay, O'Neill, Hughes, Lennon, Lambert .......

Colin Glassar
261 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:07:00

My dream team would be Glen Hoddle and Ray Wilkins. They are both highly intelligent, articulate and right up to date with modern football. I don't want another stone age scotsman taking over with his 19th century football philosophy. If we can't get Hoddle and Wilkins then Martinez or Poyet.

John Ford
262 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:13:09

Glen Hoddle is a fully fledged member of the Tom Cruise freaky pick your god from the shelf religious nutter. Anyone who uses the music of Kenny G for team inspiration is surely best avoided.

Again not really football reasons , but I hold my prejudices dear.

John Ford
263 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:17:58

There's a definite time and place for dinky little grey waistcoats.

Kev Johnson
266 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:19:43

Come on, Jim (238) - let's start a campaign for Royle's Return!

OK, who else is with us? You know it makes sense.

Ross Edwards
268 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:23:53

I think Hoddle ruined his reputation with that disabled people committing sins in a previous life quote but if we do get him we'll have God on our side!

Kev Johnson
271 Posted 23/04/2013 at 19:34:52

Ross - yeah, but which God?

I know this is the wrong thread, but I just want to say: COME ON BAYERN! I can't be doing with Barcelona. I hope the Germans smack their bottoms - quite hard.

Ross Edwards
276 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:20:23

Jawohl Kev, Come on Bayern!!!!
Barca are not the all dominating team of a few years ago and were lucky against PSG. The Germans are taking over, Bayern are by far the better team, and under Pep next season they could be the ones to beat for a few years to come.
I hope Heyneckes wins the Treble in his final season.

Kev Johnson
279 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:32:32

HT: 1-0 to the Germans. COYB(ayern)!

Note: We need a German in our team. I've no idea who...

Ross Edwards
281 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:40:18

I think if we want a German I think we should bid for Julian Draxler of Schalke, we could use the Fellaini money to get him.

Edward Wallis
284 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:43:50

John Ford... Your comments have made my week... absolute classic.

For me, I'd go for the Peter Reid & Duncan Ferguson combination — Who needs Di Canio to lift a club?

We may not play like Brazil but it would fantastic to restore Blue pride.

COYBs

Ross Edwards
286 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:54:25

English football has a lot to learn from Germany.

Ed Fitzgerald
287 Posted 23/04/2013 at 20:51:43

Please God don't let it Mackay from Cardiff I couldnt take more of the same negative attitude we have had to suffer for the next eleven years.

I think Martinez or Zola would be good choices they both aspire to play attractive, attacking football rather playing not to lose. At a push that young guy who runs North Korea may be worth a punt as least he threatens to attack!

Ross Edwards
289 Posted 23/04/2013 at 21:01:22

I think we should persuade Heyneckes from retiring after leaving Bayern, a last challenge before retiring for good.

Ross Edwards
294 Posted 23/04/2013 at 21:22:13

4-0 to Bayern!!!

Mark Frere
295 Posted 23/04/2013 at 21:13:06

I think Bayern have a lot to worry about, because there's a big challenge coming for their domestic title from Shalke with Moyes in charge

Ross Edwards
298 Posted 23/04/2013 at 21:38:11

Absolutely Mark, Huntelaar isolated on his own as Moyes brings KITAP1 to a German audience. Watch the success roll in.

Kev Johnson
302 Posted 23/04/2013 at 21:48:02

Well, my dreams came true for once. Bayern majestic, Barca sore-bottomed. Great stuff. Not sure about the home team's broadcasting of the White Stripes' "Seven Nation Army" when they score! The Germans with a seven nation army? Uh-oh, I've heard that before. Get the washing in, I think it's going to rain...

Kevin Tully
386 Posted 24/04/2013 at 11:26:41

Interesting move in the betting today, Mackay now being backed heavily - he is in to 10's from 33/1 a couple of days ago!

Jake Lucas
453 Posted 24/04/2013 at 16:03:25

Interesting that people always mention the swing in odds with bookies etc. Surely they're just ridding the wave of speculation?

If a paper comes up with some bullshit story, then the bookies drop the odds in that individual, people will be convinced it's actually based on concrete evidence and part with their hard-earnt cash. Newspapers/Bookies 1, Idiots 0, I think.

Patrick Murphy
495 Posted 24/04/2013 at 17:38:36

Wales Online report the following : -

Fellow Scot David Moyes is among the top-flight managers helping Malky Mackay plan for life at Premier League level.

The two men met in Liverpool and Mackay says: “I was privileged to be able to spend a couple of days with David (Moyes) at Everton. I watched him work at close quarters and it was great to be given that opportunity.

“Everton have had stability with their manager and he has done an amazing job for them considering the finances he has to work with. What he has done for that club is a tribute to his hard work and ability.

Perhaps the Journo put two and two together and got five...or ...?

Ross Edwards
702 Posted 25/04/2013 at 16:18:33

Usually the bookies are right on occasions so we need to watch the movement in the odds of certain managers over the next few months if Moyes leaves.

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