Hammers looking to take Jelavic

Even if we were mathematically out of it, he still wouldn't say anything till May/ June.

Serves no purpose other than to placate the 24/7 desire for rolling news in this information age.

I will not stop slagging off Moyes until he packs his bags and goes.

BK should offer him an ultimatum. His umming and arring is really taking the Michael. If he delays it any further he should be sacked.

He still hasn't said he is staying, yet he is meddling in player affairs for next season. If you have a list of players for next year why can't he just bleeding sign and leave us in our misery of another season with Moyes.

Before opening your mouth, put your brain in gear, you make yourself look a fool.

What slightly irks me is people who take every single opportunity to speak ill of the man who I think has done some pretty good if not spectacular service to the club. Of course he has his flaws and must take criticism for his mistakes but some people lack balance in their personal and vitriolic attacks on him.

Though if he scores the winner at anal field come Sunday I will eat humble pie and probably end up with his name and number tattooed across my back.

Throw in all the others like Marcus Bent, James McFadden, Victor Anichebe, James Vaughan, Jermaine Beckford, Vellios.

Crikey do we need to go on, you would think at least one of these would have turned out to be a goal scorer. Looking through that list I see why people wonder if it's something we do to our strikers in training.

Look at carroll - couldn't hit a barn door for a season at the RS, yet is now back on song and looking worth at least half of what was paid for him (before it was about 10%...).

Besides, we wouldnt get a large amount for him anyway - so its worth the risk on him turning a corner. Its not like we could sell him for £10 million and use that to buy another quality striker. Whatever we got for him would only provide for a "gamble" striker anyway. Stick with him, love him a bit, and wait for the tide to turn and I suspect he will repay us.

Jelavic is getting into the positions - he's desperate for it. I can't back this up with facts, only going on what I feel I've seen, in that a lot of our goals this season have been scored by someone with Jelavic within a couple of yards and ready to pounce himself.

He just needs one to go in off his arse early on in a match (not like his most recent one with no time left), so that his increased confidence can build with time to use it. I still think he is our player most likely to put 3 or 4 in if he scored early enough. If he's struggling by the January window, then fair enough. But for me, I'd nurture him during pre-season with a few easy teams to get him back into the groove.

It's a thought.

It would be hard for him to replace players and stay competitive in the next couple of seasons without fresh money, but he can't come out and say this. If it works, and our club is better for it, great; if he leaves and the new guy only has money from the sales of our better players, this can't be viewed as progress.

Over to you, Lord Grantchester and Co.

Personally I would like Benteke if Villa go down or Kone if Wigan go down.

I don't really buy all this stuff about Moyes training it out of him or not playing to his strength, are we really playing any differently to last year when he was 'scoring goals for fun' (Atkinson TM)?

It could be a temporary loss of form (although it's gone on a fair while now), it could be that that he is short of confidence and feeling the pressure, or It could be that the premier league defenders have found him out, it's a considerable step up from the SPL (which for me is Championship level at best, League One in places), that very few have been able to make.

'Happy....? Nae 'Happy'?!?!? Yer nae supposed to be 'Happy' ya wee shite!!! Does Seamus look 'Happy'?! Does Ross look 'Happy'?! Hav ya ever seen me look even close to 'Happy'??? Nae even Tim Howard's 'Happy', why dae ye think he's always swearin sae mach!?!?!! Nae gan and give me 350 laps of the training grund before I send yea ta West Ham ya ferkin amateur!!!!!!'

I would have put my house on him scoring 20 this season.

I understand that an out of form striker can get into a bit of a downward spiral and with every missed chance the goal just starts getting smaller and smaller... but this is getting a bit silly now.

Would still love him to stay and rediscover that bit of magic he had when he first joined.

We could terminate his contract as of the end of year — indicate now that his contract will not be renewed. So piss or get off the pot Dave.

If I thought we could get Benteke or Kone I would say sell.

But have you ever seen in newer time a Everton striker try to beat the offside trap as much as Jelavic???

Strikers like him will naturally be blown for offside more often than the rest of the lazy bums.

But now, he is not even a shadow, he is a parody of himself. His morale must be through the floor at the moment. He looks like he has forgotten how to play footy. Falling over all the time, the straying offside is becoming irritating and his shooting, well, it's shocking.

Maybe it is second-season syndrome, but I don't think it is. Playing St Johnstone is a doddle; playing Man Utd and Arsenal, different ball game. It is impossible to get into Europe with a player who has only scored 1 in 19 games.

I know Moyes has been a miracle worker but if Jela isn't banging in the goals, his job is even harder. He is probably a Championship player at best and sadly that's where he might be in a few years, or maybe stuck with a mid table French or Russian team like Drenthe.

Moyes is NOT to blame for Jela's poor form, it's a mix of ability, which he has lost completely it seems, and confidence. Maybe, if there are new faces next year, he might be back to his best.

However I can't help but remember that first half a season. It's not just that he was banging them in; he oozed class. He was taking them first time, he was knocking them in despite the ball falling awkwardly, he was beating offside traps and timing his runs to perfection. I don't think you can fluke all those things.

If we sold him and he rediscovered his goalscoring I'd be gutted. When he has scored this season he's been high fiveing and hugging everyone in sight, so he obviously still wants it. I'm not sure if I swallow the second season syndrome stuff, I just think he is in a really long bad patch of form. I hope he stays and recovers form next season. We do need to sign some competition for him up front though (plan A and B rolled into one).

Jelavic doesn't have a great deal to offer, footballing wise, he's not fast, doesn't link up play well, doesn't have much skill. He's a goal poacher and that's all

Also, I don't think it helps your argument to suggest that he has "little or no skill". That's clearly not true.

The guy is having a bad run, there is no doubt. But he has skills, he has potential. Whether we have as a club have the luxury of time to let him get back to form is a different matter. But regardless, he isn't a bad player, and his club and international career is evidence of that.

We are a stable top 6 club that should be able to pick up some top emerging talent. A bit of vision.....