Laudrup tops list to replace David Moyes

Be a great coup for the club but I have no faith in Kenwright even bringing in a satisfactory replacement.

Slaven Bilic or Ole Gunnar Solskjaer seem like they would be worth a chance in the Premier League and would bring the right qualities.

Martinez, Hughes, Lennon, Neville, O’Neill, Clarke… No, thank you!

The lack of finance, and the lack of a strategy to address that lack of finance.

Moyes has been Kenwright's lightning conductor, his human shield, for the past decade. It seems he is now gone but the main problems remain. Until we have a board capable of bringing some vision and business sense to the club, we will always be also-rans, plucky Everton punching above out weight.

If David does leave, which seems likely at the time of writing, then I am filled with a sense of regret and despair that the wrong person has left Everton.

The lack of finance, and the lack of a strategy to address that lack of finance.

Moyes has been Kenwright's lightning conductor, his human shield, for the past decade. It seems he is now gone but the main problems remain. Until we have a board capable of bringing some vision and business sense to the club, we will always be also-rans, plucky Everton punching above out weight.

If David does leave, which seems likely at the time of writing, then I am filled with a sense of regret and despair that the wrong person has left Everton.

I doubt he'll put up with that bullshit that Moyes did with the board!

Wow I hope it happens

You know, it boils down to how much kudos being the EFC manager has in the footballing world at large. While I fondly imagine it's the best job in the world, I don't think that thought is widely shared outside of the EFC community.

I wonder if BK will attend on Sunday?

Discussions on Everton's first managerial appointment since 2002 were only tentative, however, with the expectation being that Moyes would stay amid a lack of interest from England's leading clubs. He was finalising Everton's pre-season arrangements only on Tuesday and has held several discussions on his transfer budget and targets for this summer.

The Everton hierarchy did not receive notice of United's or Moyes' intentions until the 50-year-old met Bill Kenwright at the chairman's offices in London on Wednesday. He is expected to inform Everton's players of his impending departure at the club's Finch Farm training ground on Thursday.

They also say that Mark Hughes is interested and that Laudrup, Martinez and Lennon are to be considered for the post.

Fair do's Michu was inspired, I suggest he's been the real difference but at the start there were mutterings in Swansea of training being a bit slack and they started a bit shit.

After the league cup win they've been on holiday till Wigan ... A Michu, a league cup, one season ??

Slightly tenuous to me.

His focus on bringing through youth talent is also a huge selling point for the club that selected at least one player who has come through the academy system for more than 1,000 consecutive games.

With the backlash he has had at Chelsea, would coming to Goodison worry him?

He lives in Caldy and recently said he would like to manage on Merseyside again.

Thanks Moyesy for making us more professional; for that, we are indebted... For being given a chance and the support with our great club you are indebted to Everton. If you leave, it's with my gratitude and blessing. COYB

Short-list? Succession planning? Don't make me laugh.

Fucking amateurs, the lot of them.

I'd like to see where we'd finished if we had a finisher like Michu this year.

Its a bit premature to say he's better than Moyes, especially when we completely dicked all over them at the Liberty.

I'd rather him than Martinez though, who can only get 6 games a year out of his teams.

I for one am not dancing in the street like most on here, because I can see us having a lot of seasons like Newcastle and Villa are having.

Excellent post. Kenwright's next appointment will make or break him - and us!

There are literally hundreds of millions at stake if they fuck up, and we are relegated. They will go all out to replace Moyes with someone who can keep the status quo, the likes of Megson or Jones would not even be considered.

They will pay whatever it takes to keep this club afloat, and the future revenues that will be on offer.

We need a hungry, ambitious, hard to please, intelligent young manager with bags of energy and the mental strength to cope at such a big club as Everton. It certainly won't be easy

For me, Laudrup lacks passion and drive.

Laudrup? Meh. I still want Montanier. However, Real Socieadad are looking like they'll be in the Champs League next year, so he won't leave San Sebastian. I guess the next three la Liga games for me will be supporting whoever they are playing.

Of those listed so far to either have their hat in the ring, all have pros and cons but I really hope that we don't get Mark Hughes, Malky Mackay, Neil Lennon or Martin O'Neill.

This leaves a small list that I would target:

Porto Coach Vitor Pereira: as we have seen with AVB, the coach of Porto would be high calibre and would hopefully play attractive football. It would be a jump in leagues for Pereira, but why would he leave constant Champions League football? He would be my No 2 target.

Michael Laudrup: has gathered praise for his season with Swansea this year, managing a trophy, a feat we are constantly reminded that Moyes hasn't achieved. However, is he a flash in the pan or a one-season wonder? His results at other clubs recently haven't ended at all well, either being fired or resigning a year into his contract at Mallorca and Spartak Moscow. After the League Cup win,they haven't come to play at all. Also, how much of his success can we put down to Michu, easily the signing of the season? He is in the bottom half of my list to target.

Roberto Martinez: I think this manager beings the most division amongst our supporter base. I personally like his footballing philosophy and brand that he tries to implement at Wigan, despite not have the cattle to do so. This move has caused his team to be in the position they are in, due to the constant mistakes that they make. It's a Catch-22 situation for him, play good football and risk being relegated, or park the bus and have more ladder stability, but lose respect as a manager. I am ambivalent towards the clubs signing Martinez, which isn't a good situation given how much I care about the club.

Other targets that I like: Slaven Bilic or Ole Gunnar Solskjaer have both made the right noises with their managerial career, but don't know enough about them to make an in depth analysis

Another candidate that is purely me thinking outside the box here is Graham Arnold. He is the coach of the Central Coast Mariners in Australia, who recently won the Grand Final this season and finished the regular season in the top 2 throughout the last three seasons. The reason I bring him up is that the Mariners are the smallest club in the competition, spending less than half what other teams spend on players(this in a league with a salary cap of sorts). He also has a great track record of bringing youngsters into the first team and making them young stars. It won't happen, but he would be a great manager or even first team coach.

And my No 1 target is Jose Mourinho.... Hear me out, please, and no I haven't been drinking;its 10:30 am in Sydney as I write this.

I feel now would be the perfect time for Kenwright to leave the club. He has long been stale in the position and, as I mentioned at the top, this posting is the biggest decision he will make. So Bill: fall on your sword and do the whole club a favour, it's a win-win situation. If we could somehow get Mourinho, new owners would come flocking to us and I expect we would keep all of our quality players as they would see the potential revolution. It would be the ballsiest move made in EFC history.

Now can someone call the nurse... I think I forgot my meds.

I just want to see some bloody flair for once! I can't take it anymore, its so fucking boring watching us play 1 up front week in week out no matter who we are up against!

Over to you Barry, you said you want Everton to win the league, so who is the man who can bring the trophy to Goodison ?

1st cho
ice Laudrup

Nobody will be able to do a better job than Moyes and very few could even come close to matching what he's achieved... especially considering how BK and his board ru(i)n the club. If these guys can't balance the books or attract any investment in 14 years, then they're clearly crap at their jobs.

Chris Matheson... you hit the nail on the head.

Just think we may even end up as one of those teams less enlightened posters see playing grand football for a month with a great win at Highbury or somewhere, and think we're the next big thing. Then we dissapear out of sight and churn out benign season after benign season.. But it's ok cos we'll have two strikers up front, a brainless whippet on the wing and someone with all important 'passion' in charge.

Leave the club Bill. Don't rely on another mug to protect you.

Not much to ask, surely?

And Laudrup...he's good, I like him, but it would be for 2 years maximum. He already sees himself as a top manager and wants to be in the CL.

I have absolutely no faith in Kenwright.

I think it stands to reason that we need to try and tempt someone in who has a clear goal of getting us into the CL on a limited budget. There could be considerable opportunity to do that in the next few years with AF leaving Utd and the top six to eight teams all taking points off each other.

Let's face it, the team needs some restructuring and we need someone to come in and do it quickly and well without losing any ground.

Having said all that, I can see someone like Solskayer being appointed maybe with Neville as his 2nd with a view that Neville is a long term replacement.

Personally I'd like to see Bilic and Duncan Ferguson say on the touch line barking orders!

The division in opinion about Moyes always seemed to be illogical and unfair. I do think many got bored with having one-man to blame for so long and, at least, the script has now changed.

But who knows? After all that stability, Kenwright may now take the Chelsea/Wolves approach and go for three or four managers a season! That way, the MOB (Manager Out Brigade) can be drip fed someone to destroy knowing that their wish for change will be rewarded almost at a whim!

Exciting times.

I think Laudrup feels like an attractive choice but he's pretty untested and I'm not totally convinced he would come.

Pereira and Montanier are very intriguing options but foreign coaches are always quite high risk in the Premier League.

I'm not sure I'm advocating such an unpalatable choice but, all personal feelings aside, Benitez would be... no I can't even write it.

My money is on a relegated Martinez, who I'm far from convinced by but would at least bring a pretty type of football.

Big decision, BK. Don't screw it up!

"Laudrup out!"

That line always pisses me off: 'honourable' about what? Earning £65k a week and saying fuck all about the clowns in charge?

It's a business and it's a job. Hopefully the new employee will be value for money and not a loss.

Anyway, Laudrup would be good, I would still prefer Poyet.

As for the new man - play good football, get results, respect the club and the fans and they'll respect you back in spades. Its not rocket science is it.

That's where Moyes has succeeded.

Much is made of Wigan's plight but that is to not understand football Wigan are Blackpool, Burnley, Preston etc - just not a Premier club. Nonetheless he's met huge challenges against all the odds and won through - something desperately missing from our club since big Joe.

I always look beyond stats because they're invariably used to talk bollocks and Martinez is an impressively optimistic manager despite the overwhelming constraints of being at Wigan.

He doesn't sulk and mope around and would be a breath of fresh air after 11 years of mostly purgatory a bit of belief wouldn't go amiss among many of the faithful presently indoctrinated by mediocrity and lack of ambition.

He is the antithesis of what we've had and would address our big problem - being predictable. We have enough "work ethic" hoof it boys on the staff to coach defensive gubbins till hell freezes over - time to address our problems this is a huge opportunity and Martinez is the man.

Careful what you wish for.

We should be setting a target for the new manager to be in place for the end of this month. Even these dopey fuckers must have had a shortlist drafted when Moyes refused to sign a new contract.

We want to get Fellaini out of the door for £25m, and anyone else who is not fully committed.

The new man needs to identify his targets, and try and get as much business done as possible before pre-season.

Alternatively, we are looking at players leaving last minute, no decent replacements, and the new manager left wondering what the fuck he has signed up for before the season has started.

Your argument seems to be - after 11 years of accepting mediocrity and lack of ambition let's go for someone who personifies something below being mediocre and who operates on the sole ambition of avoiding being relegated on the final day of the season every year

Simply passing the ball around isn't going to get our team into top 4.

Is there something in the water that affects you Moyes boys vision or are you just so thick you can't read properly?

Read it again don't put your own bias in and have a glass of milk - it's like an epidemic with you boys.

Wigan don't play good football that is a myth. Aside from beating us they have been dire all season pretty much. I'll give you he did start something at Swansea but every manager since him has done better there than he managed. We are one of the best jobs in the league we should be aiming higher than Mckay and Martinez.

You know its personal bias which makes you put his name forward don't you? Same with Anichebe in midfield. Everything is personal bias based on our perceptions and how we react to those.

If you want to convince, you've got to sell the product and you haven't.

(see what I did there...hilarious)

Mat, so by suggesting earlier in the year we played some decent football by default the rest has been crap? in which case "nearly 11 years of purgatory" is a bullseye.

Nick I'm not interested in convincing anyone I was asked my opinion and as usual give it in a remarkably adroit way ... why you're all not thanking me is simply down to jealousy after all how long have I been saying Moyes contract saga was a ruse?

(checks mirror for gorgeousness)

What's this about Rooney, the £10m for two years? MAssive amount of difference that.

I don't think either that opinion on Moyes has any baring on Martinez.

My primary issue with Martinez however, is the defensive inability of his teams. Attacking football is nice...but attacking football is no that hard to play. We want attacking winning football...and has Martinez ever consistently achieved that in this league? Why can't he motivate his team beyond two months of every season? A long-standing complaint about Moyes was an inability for us to get going till Christmas...or January...but we are going to bring in a manager whose team only gets going in the spring?

This season, Wigan have put on some of the most tactically inept defensive displays the league has seen. Tuesday was a prime example...they were missing defenders, but their positioning, and the individual mistakes, were unforgivable. We have done so well in this league because of a good defensive backbone. If we want to improve our attacking football, we must do so whilst retaining our defensive solidarity (As we have this season), because in the likes of Baines, Jags, Distin, and increasingly, Coleman, we have our best unit. Personally, for that reason, I'd prefer Laudrup. He has done well in this league, and abroad, and importantly, has been impressive in the transfer market. Would Swansea have got Hernandez in without him? no way. That lure could be invaluable for us.

Personally, Laudrup tops my list. If we went abroad, then Vitor Pereira. If we got Martinez, I don't think he would cause us to drop away drastically, but I think we would go from top 6 contenders, to higher mid-table, albeit whilst scoring more goals. The likes of Mark Hughes, O'Neil, Lennon...must be absolute no goes.

It's this simple if you don't see the difference between us and Wigan there's no more to be said.

Nick to use your favorite phrase "I don't understand" I just think Martinez is a good manager for the reasons above.

Martinez is good, but he's no great shakes either.

Bielsa the guy who managed Argentina when they scored that goal with over 50 passes. The guy who managed everyone's favourite second team, chile, in World Cup 10. The guy who managed Bilbao when they destroyed united. The guy who taught Guardiola everything he knows. The guy who pochetino and others are unabashed disciples of. The guy who invented the style of play used by barca, Dortmund and the like. The most innovative tactician in the game.

Why would he come to Everton? Well it's all gone wrong at Bilbao and as they can't buy anyone, it's best to let him leave and start again. Bielsa prefers smaller clubs where he can stamp himself all over the club. He doesn't like adapting to a club, the club adapts to him.

Lets shout for Bielsa from the rooftops and maybe kenwright will listen. Lets get El loco.

The biggest difference is that within a few seasons, Moyes took a team that just missed the drop into Europe, within a few seasons Martinez, almost had his own Rooney when he sold Valencia for £16m, spent £13m the next season, £10m the year after, with £9.5m for N'Zogbia and £9m this season after getting £10m for Victor Moses......yet he is still in another relegation battle and looks like he is going to lose this one.

They do say be careful what you wish for.

Moyes grew stale of us, I grew stale of him. We needed change - but not to Neville.

It is Kenwright that has to go. But hey, who does not know that.

Bielsa is a great shout,his players would run through a brick wall for him as well as a fantastic work ethic, and a football philosophy of pacy attacking football.
If you don't ask,you don't get.

Please, please, please let your mate be wrong. Think i'll cry if its true.

Definitely don't want any of the following:-

Round, Weir, Stubbs, Neville
Lennon
Allerdyce
Redknapp
O'Neill
McLaren
Hughes,Mackay,McCarthy

Probably end up with a Mark Hughes reject type.....

Hmm - Laudrup, Eddie Howe, Maybe too early for Big Dunc and Neville.

NONONO - Hughes, O'neill, Allardyce, Bruce, Megson and all the other also rans.

Watching QPR was almost a blueprint of what I never want EFC to become, full of mercenaries.

And why Zola? Are Watford playing some great inventive football, because as far as I know Steve Bruce just out performed the little man with Hull.

So, Mcleish, Mclaren, O'neill, Hughes......What a scary list

I (like many it seems) would, given the choice, go for Laudrup.

However, this is down to BK, so as Steve Round has 1% and Mark Hughes 0%, my guess is it'll be one of them.

We've all seen this coming since January so no excuse for no Plan B. Agree with previous post that the Phil Neville situation and Moyes "wait for Europe" stance all seem a bit suspicious now.

The TW New Manager poll lists about 15-20 candidates. Even TonyPulis is quoted on Paddy Power. There can only be half a dozen from that list to be considered. Most are uninspiring even on a webpage.

I doubt progress would be made with Mark Hughes and the like. You'd have to be a bit of a fuckwit to consider MH et al.

I don't know who but we need somebody who is on an upward curve in their reputation / career / experience.

I think we may see Everton's first foreign coach whoever it is.

Worried of Wirral.

Very Worried of Wirral.

When I read down the list on the toffeeWeb poll - the only ones I think I could warm to were not from the British Isles. The likes of Lennon, O'Neill, Hughes just left me stone cold. Time for a bit of European flair at the Old Lady I feel.

Big Dunc one day maybe but certainly not yet.

Please don't fuck this up Bill.

Mark Hughes
Michael Laudrup
Nigel Adkins
Steve Clarke