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Mackay is Everton's first choice

10/05/2013 | Comments (84)
Another newspaper, another manager topping the list of candidates to succeed David Moyes at Everton. This time it's Cardiff City boss Malky Mackay.

The Daily Star suggest that Bill Kenwright is eyeing the 41-year-old following his success in guiding the Welsh side into the Premier League on a relatively modest budget. That would obviously be an important trait to have for life at Goodison where Moyes has had to work on a shoestring budget for years.

talkSPORT have gone a step further, reporting that Everton have approached Cardiff regarding Mackay as they set the wheels in motion to find Moyes's replacement.

Original Source: Daily Star  Rumour source ranking:
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Andy Cobham
029 Posted 10/05/2013 at 06:18:31
Feckin brilliant!! Hold tight everyone, looks like its gonna be a bumpy ride....we shouldn't fool ourselves that lightening strikes twice and we could be fortunate enough to get another top manager from the lower divisions. We should be doing our best to get a proven winner this time - De Boer being top of the list.
Peter Thistle
037 Posted 10/05/2013 at 06:42:36
Any newspaper story at the moment is pure speculation. They are guessing at best. Gits.
Phil Jeffries
043 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:02:06
Is there any reason why Slaven Bilic hasn't popped up on the radar as yet? We have had the likes of Hughes mentioned alongwith a heap of other average names being plucked up from everywhere. Yet Bilic has yet to be mentioned. I think he will put his name in the hat at some stage.

Would anyone else be keen Di Matteo? Read the above thread and didn't even think about him. He has proved he can handle the lesser named players at WBA and I think his sacking was extremely harsh. He then goes on to win the Champions League – first point proven! He is free and will be chomping at the bit to prove his worth.

Peter Mills
070 Posted 10/05/2013 at 07:52:41
Malky Mackay? It doesn't sound too inspirational, but perhaps he is married to Maggie, younger sister of Morag who at this moment is in the process of upgrading the caravan, Davie having told her there will a few more shillings in the housekeeping money from now on. "I haven't been able to tell you my little secret for the last few months Morag, but from now on I think we're going to be ok. Let Mags and Malky have the old van".
That's a far as I can go, over to the TW creative writer if he is having a quiet day.
Sam Hoare
082 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:31:46
This sounds horribly plausible.

I think the division one playoffs are worth keeping an eye on as whoever doesn't make it out of Zola and poyet may become an option.

Tony J Williams
088 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:36:38
At least the MOB won't have to change their acronym.
Eugene Ruane
120 Posted 10/05/2013 at 08:52:38
Tony (088) - "At least the MOB won't have to change their acronym"

Sorry, THEIR acronym?

Think you'll find the childish acronym originated with Moyes supporters, not his detractors.

Nelly Verdonghan
164 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:26:12
OMG PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NOOOOO !!!
Gavin Ramejkis
175 Posted 10/05/2013 at 10:34:11
MOB created by knobs - cue the it's all your fault tantrums and told you so childish shite, rumours are its an English manager sort of takes the wind out of anyone decent then.

With some of the suicide watch posts on here it's like sitting back laughing when Take That split up years ago, hordes of little girls in tears, god help this lot when Harry Potters favourite band Wand Erection split up, they'll be jumping in the Mersey.

Alasdair Mackay
220 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:27:14
That headline makes me happy!!
Jimmy Kelly
224 Posted 10/05/2013 at 11:23:17
Yeah that's it fellas, it was those childish apologists/kenshite supporters/Moyesophiles wot dun it. No childish behaviour from us, no siree (looks at Wand Erection and MOB/knob rhyming efforts, shakes head sadly).

Gavin, let's just hope you're still laughing after we announce the new manager. I'm not one of those expecting the world to end instantly but you'd be a fool not to be worried by some of the names being mentioned.

Tony J Williams
259 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:05:40
Moysephiles created by Scmosephiles......hasn't got the same ring really...
Shane Corcoran
262 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:07:53
I'm hearing a lot of negativity towards McKay. Why is that? Is it because he's not European? He's been in charge for two years at Cardiff and they've just won the Championship. What's not to like?
Robert Collins
270 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:17:14
Is the Daily Star a newspaper??? They're running that one in Dandy and Beano as well.
Thomas James
283 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:00:51
TalkSport are saying that Cardiff have confirmed that Everton have approached Malky Mackay
Sean Patton
291 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:37:44
Shane

It is because he is a Championship manager who has little experience and has not proved himself at this level.

It was different in 2002 the club has moved on since then we have a top 6-8 squad and are looking to progress not stave off relegation.

Everton should be looking at experienced European managers who have won trophies.

Gavin Ramejkis
313 Posted 10/05/2013 at 12:59:36
Who is laughing Jimmy? See you tools do it again like there's a party, give us some of your stand up but not the yawn fest we are all doomed, it's just shit and doesn't even need to shake head
Ross Edwards
315 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:03:18
Moyes Mk2 if we appoint Malky. Still not convinced.
Paul Ellam
372 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:30:22
Prefer Pereira - a winner with a winner's mentality (no rolling over like Moyes had us doing) attack minded, has experience working with big egos/personalities and most importantly - no compensation to pay!
Laudrup is another good shout but I've read his buy out is £10m so that effectively rules him out.
Other names I would welcome are Poyet and Montanier
Kev Johnson
390 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:42:49
Malky is no name for a grown man. With a name like that he'd more suited to CBeebies. Whoever next - Pongo Poyet? Zippy Zola?

Denis Richardson
393 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:50:14
Jeez, what is it with us and Scottish managers?

Can we please appoint a NON-Scottish or British manager for once!

Steavey Buckley
406 Posted 10/05/2013 at 13:57:46
BK knows he will have to provide more funding for transfers than he gave Moyes in order to attract another manager of any quality.
Jimmy Kelly
408 Posted 10/05/2013 at 14:01:39
Gavin, many apologies, I assumed when you said 'With some of the suicide watch posts on here it's like sitting back laughing when Take That split up years ago' that you thought it was like, I don't know, a laughing matter? Can't think what gave me that idea.

At least we've moved away from childishness though, what with you calling me a 'tool' on an internet forum. Very mature, i'm sure.

Jackie Barry
425 Posted 10/05/2013 at 14:23:11
I thought we were going to be involved, I guess not?
Clarence Yurcan
432 Posted 10/05/2013 at 14:31:52
For what it's worth, I follow Celtic on Twitter and they are tweeting snippets of Neil Lennon's press conference today, he's making a lot of statements about being flattered at the speculation of Being Everton's next manager, how big a club they are, what an honor it would be etc. Really going out of his way to praise Everton. Is a deal already in the works?
Sean Picton
504 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:24:43
Twitter rumour that Everton have approached three managers so far - Lennon, Mackay and BRUCE!!! Hope not, tried, tested and proven - to be poor in the Prem. Bruce is not for me and I'm sure most fans agree.
Ross Edwards
511 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:30:26
Bruce!????
Well, what did you expect from Calamity Bill?
He says he will consider our opinions to get a manager to move us forward, and he is considering Steve Bruce?
Well, he can take his Kleenex and his tears and he can follow DM to Old Trafford at once.
The stupid bumbling Idiot.
Chris Corn
536 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:46:57
According to Moyes he has been asked by Bill regarding his successor, so MacKay it is then . Very similar profile that DM had when he started.
Steven Twine
540 Posted 10/05/2013 at 15:47:59
Big rumours from the chief cardiff city echo writer that malkay mackay has beenapproached. 3 million compensation.
Nelly Verdonghan
577 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:15:41
Moyes has stated in today's press conference that Kenwright has already asked for his advice on who he should approach....so much for listening to the fans then Kenwright...you lying twat !!
Looks like it will be Malackey Mackey then folks...why ???....cos he's a carbon copy of Dour Davie (just like Moyes is similar to Ferguson apparently....sorry must have missed all those trophies he's won in the last 11yrs !!!!)...Mackey is a miserable git devoid of personality who started his career at Celtic where he played a few games...(remind you of anyone ??) He then spent the rest of his playing career in the lower divisions in England...(again anyone spring to mind ???) He started off at Watford who were in the shite and won them some games (a la Moyes at Preston) and got them up the table....got the job at Cardiff and won the Championship aka Division 2 ( which to be fair is something Moyes has NEVER done !!)

BTW has anyone noticed the similarity between their style of play...Cardiff are a physical side who hoof it up front as soon as possible to their front man...who runs around like a headless chicken....no passing football style played here I'm afraid...just like Dour Davie in the Everton years !!

So it's my guess that the next Everton manager will be Malakey Makey as recommended by David Moyes....

Nelly Verdonghan
578 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:17:09
OMG....Malakey Makey....Please Please NOOOO !!
Mike Gray
581 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:15:29
For what it's worth Talkshite have just mentioned that Malky Mackay has been approached by Everton! God forbid, noooo!!!
Kevin Hudson
587 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:19:18
Malky Mackay is Moyes...eleven years ago.

We need a manager with experience of the top five in a top league.

A Rafa Benitez equivalent.

A young manager with potential..? For me, that would undermine DM's work, iand would be a step backwards.

Kevin Tully
588 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:20:43
What is it with dour, miserable, Scottish ex- defenders that makes them so attractive as managers?

Can't we show at least a modicum of ambition and look at another business model?

Why not pay Pelligrini £5m a year, and show some fucking vision for once. Offer whatever it takes to get the right man - we were paying Neville £3m ayear FFS!!

Peter Mills
594 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:20:32
Can someone please explain why you would ask advice from the new manager of Manchester United about the man you should appoint to compete against his club next season?
Nelly Verdonghan
599 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:30:37
Peter #594...It would be nice for Kenwright to explain the logic behind that one but it is true...Moyes confirmed it in his press confrence earlier today...

Kevin #588......couldn't agree more mate !!

Alun Jones
600 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:32:12
I would like to see Gus Poyet being given a chance. Good Philosophy, proven top premiership player and experience of managing on a tight budget.
Patrick Murphy
605 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:26:05
I agree Kevin, we have to have a plan for at least the next 3 if not 5 years. BK must realise by now that nobody is going to buy the club and hoping that something or someone turns up is not a viable option any longer.

The new manager must be someone who has the ability to develop the players skills at every level. Organised and hard to beat are ok but every team needs a level of skill to win football matches on a regular basis.

Given David Moyes shrewdness in the transfer market it is going to be hard to improve upon that area especially from someone who has not yet experienced the PL. But there is more than one way to skin a cat - I'm not advocating this as a pastime children - and we must find somebody who believes in a particular way of playing and someone who has the self-belief to enforce his beliefs on the team and on the club as a whole.


Chris Leyland
611 Posted 10/05/2013 at 16:37:10
Eugene (120) - interesting concept that an acronym can be childish. Using the same logic, can a pseudonym therefore be immature? If so, could I suggest one; Peter AKA Tim?
Gary Clark
634 Posted 10/05/2013 at 17:04:24
Bruce.....You mean Steve Bruce OMG I would rather have Bruce Forsyth. Wish we could land Laudrup I feel he may attract decent players or even bring Michu with him
Lennon=NO
Hughes=NO
Jay Doyle
671 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:07:16
Lucien Favre of Borussia Moenchengladbach could be a possible.
Steve Brown
695 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:23:01
Let's hire a decent manager who was actually won trophies. Plus someone who has a reputation in the game and will attract players. if that means a foreign manager then that's fine.
James McGarry
718 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:39:34
Thought he was listening to the fans The lying bullshitter. Kenwright go now your the reason why everything stinks to high heaven. He after a puppet who will work for peanuts on no budget and is a yes man like Moyes was.
Kevin Hudson
722 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:12:41
Great revisionism from Gavin here..

Apparently, it was the Moyesophiles bringing the "childish shite."

This from a grown man who spent the last two years regaling us with 'Gollum, Kenshite, Creasehead & Fat Frank.'

(Liverpool's own Aaron Sorkin).

The IMWT versus MOB debate has run it's course. Moyes landed the top gig in the country....there you go, game over.

James McGarry
723 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:43:20
I believe Kenwright has approached the manager of the Hot Wok by the ground it's all over sky sports
James McGarry
726 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:44:55
You can just see it now Kenwright theatre production appointment along with the announcement potential buyer / investors interested in us and money available for new manager. Curtain opens FUCK AGAIN gotcha ha you gullible lot of supporters.
Steven Twine
727 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:36:57
Does anybody know if tim cahill has done his coaching badges? I would have klinsman in as the manager with cahill as number 2 if he has done his badges. If not then billic. Lets be adventurous and imaginative! The list of managers being mentioned for us is shocking. Hughes,wolly with the brolly, bruce........
James McGarry
732 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:48:18
Look, forget it — you won't and don't get a say. He's Billy Liar who spins us shit year-in & year-out. He's gonna appoint a yes-man, a puppet who he can mould into a lying fucker like Moyes was.
Mike Green
733 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:46:55
Kevin #722 - the debate hasnt run its course yet Im afraid. It'll rear it's head everytime we play them and how he does in the league and cups for a few seasons yet. One way or the other there are likely to be a lot of 'told you so's' to get through yet.
James McGarry
735 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:50:14
Nelly's blogs are spot on. Well said Nelly.
John Crawley
736 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:51:34
Kevin 722 - Game over: he landed the top job in the country? Surely we have to judge him on what he achieves there not on the fact that he got the job?
James Stewart
740 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:57:17
This is very likely to happen. Moyes has a massive hand in picking the next boss. Just as SAF picked a mate in Moyes he will likely do the same for Mckay. No way will he suggest a foreign coach.
John Crawley
741 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:54:24
History tells us that every manager who has won a trophy at Everton has been a former player. So on that basis it has to be Bilic!

The board should be setting the criteria for the type of manager they want and then appointing a recruitment specialist to draw up a list of potential managers.

Mike Hughes
743 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:56:10
Original source: The Daily Star.

Do me a favour......

Mind you, interesting how the bookies have changed their stance in the past 24 hours.

Not an inspiring list of candidates.

By default, my vote is for the Porto bloke at the moment though, for all we know, he could be another Ramos....

Worried...

Paul Andrews
745 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:52:14
If Moyes is to choose the new manager and wants someone in his own image it probably won't be Malky McKay.
It could well be Mr McKay the chief screw from porridge.
Anyone know the odds on that one?
Mike Hughes
748 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:01:40
...or as John #741 writes "Bilic" may be a reasonable choice.
Kevin Hudson
761 Posted 10/05/2013 at 18:54:36
John,

If he wins trophies, and it gets debated on here, I doubt the MOB will give him credit; it will be due to either Ferguson... or money. An ironic inversion of the IMWT complaint about him not being given enough financial opportunity at EFC..!

If he fails or gets fired, then as Mike says, it'll be schadenfreude..

Personally, I'm looking forward to the next manager. I think he'll need time to bed-in and create his own team in an initial transitional period of 2-3 years.

Paul Andrews
765 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:12:07
Kevin Hudson,

I agree,Moyes has left an unbalanced squad behind.

Patrick Murphy
769 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:18:11
Paul and he's also left what some might say is an unbalanced chairman.
James Flynn
776 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:11:59
Don't know this guy at all. Wouldn't expect many Cardiff City fans in here, but does anyone have a friend or 2 who follow that club?

All I see in here is "noooo" and "another Scot".

Just curious? Does anyone know if the guy's any good?

Paul Andrews
805 Posted 10/05/2013 at 19:41:55
Patrick,

I agree with that too :-)

Frida Ericsson
884 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:31:04
Why do people keep bringing up the name Bilic? I really do not understand why you think he would be any good managing Everton or in the premier league. What qualifications does he have that would equate to sucess at Everton?

It sound like asking for all the bad managers to sign for us. We need a recognized name, who has actually won things on the world stage, what has Bilic done as a manager that would make him the perfect candidate for the job?

I cannot give you names, because all the ones I like are managing teams successfully and in europe next year, like I wish we where.

Terry Anderson
905 Posted 10/05/2013 at 20:12:12
We need Kenwright to get it right! No Lennon...

Put his hand in his pocket . Get Michael Laudrup.
Mark Frere
915 Posted 10/05/2013 at 21:02:58
I think most of us Everton fans want a foreign mananger to come in and breath new life into Everton, with some fresh ideas and better development in the youth system. this scenario is very unlikely though. Its would be so typical of our board to appoint someone like M Mackay, just after selling Baines and Fellaini for 40 million, then saying to Mackay "you've got 20 million to spend, go buy the best players from Cardiff". If anyone is under any illusions that we are going to get a top European manager, they are sadly mistaken. I think Martinez is the only possible foreign manager the board may consider
Harold Matthews
923 Posted 10/05/2013 at 21:21:58
Our biggest problem is the massive wage bill. We can't survive with £60 /£70. 000 per week players no matter who the manager is.
Mark Frere
933 Posted 10/05/2013 at 21:41:02
Harold Matthews

Our wage bill isn't that massive, 10th biggest in the PL I think. Don't forget the new SKY deal starting next year and they will be the departures of Neville and Moyes. We can also expect Fellaini and Baines's high wages crossed of the wage bill as well. If we can't do something substantial in the transfer window this summer, they really is no hope

Anthony Flack
952 Posted 10/05/2013 at 22:09:59
So many posts and at risk of widespread disdain, I can not think of an ideal successor other than Benitez. Some appeal behind high risk combo of Neville and Ferguson (Dunc) double act.....better te fucking Mickey Mouse malky
James Martin
960 Posted 10/05/2013 at 22:19:43
Anthony whilst Benitez is undoubtedly a winner and in many ways a lucky manager, his football is worse than Moyes' and that's with the quality players he had. Didn't buy one decent wide man in all the years he was at Liverpool. With our back four we'd probably end up with the best defence in the league but I don't think it would be pretty to watch.
Mike Hughes
963 Posted 10/05/2013 at 22:16:15
Frida #884

I kind of agree with you but regarding high calibre managers may I remind you that we haven't got a pot to piss in on premier league terms.

Hence the Aldi list of candidates.

With respect to Harrods, we can only window shop I'm afraid.

No obvious British candidate.

First EFC Foreign manager for me.

Harold Matthews
001 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:06:45
Mark. At over £63mill. it left us nothing in the transfer kitty. We couldn't even afford one single January loan signing. Our limit had been reached.
Mark Frere
009 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:20:53
Harold, you might as well be a spokesman for Kenwright and his cronies.
Dennis Stevens
018 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:29:38
Surely in our impoverished state we'll only be looking at managers we can sign without having to pay any compensation to their club - that should narrow the field a little.
Paul Ferry
026 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:49:41
Kevin - 722 - dying to know, who is Creasehead and who is Fat Frank?
Missed those two. Is Creasehead Moyes coz of wrinkles/furrows?
Lori Fekete
027 Posted 10/05/2013 at 23:31:56
Don't mind admitting I liked Moyes (80% of the time anyway), but things had got stale. To replace him with another middle of the road British manager would be disasterous
Freshen the place up with a decent foreign manager.

Trouble is I have fuck all faith in the board to sort it out.

Kevin Hudson
030 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:03:14
Gerrard & Lampard..
Noel Early
035 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:04:34
Moyes has apparently giving his recommendation on who should succeed him,if true then I would fancy Mackay to be the man.To be honest he wouldn't be my first choice and I doubt we would could afford the £3m buyout clause he has,id love if we went with Berkamp seen him mentioned on another thread.
Paul Corbishley
056 Posted 11/05/2013 at 00:31:18
I'm starting to despair at some of the people we are being linked with for our next manager. O'neil, Hughes, McClaren and all the others who are flashing their arse at Kenwright can sod off, I'll take proper umbrage if one of them darkens our doorstep.

I don't feel Martinez would be able to add anything of substance or for that matter Di Matteo, (don't forget Avram Grant was the width of a post away from winning the Champions League with Chelsea in very similar circumstances to Di Matteo a few seasons ago and we defo wouldn't want him)

I'm not sure about Laudrup, Swansea have played some good football this season but they were one of the worst teams I've seen visit Goodison in a long time this season.

If we are going to go down the route of looking at lower league managers then I would much rather they cast their eyes down to Bournemouth than Cardiff. Eddie Howe has done a fantastic job and they play some cracking football.

Now If we went for Marcelo Bielsa that would get me excited, so excited I reckon me and Mrs C would be in a Delivery room 9 months later but I can't see Kenwright being that adventurous.

Finally there is the great big elephant in the room that is Benitez, and lets be honest taking the Shite out of the equation he would be top of the list by a country mile.
Bob Parrington
070 Posted 11/05/2013 at 01:20:52
.......... the most important decision the club has had to make for 11 years! Best get it right, eh!

Personally, I like the idea of Di Matteo and others I know have mentioned Slaven Bilic, who should be considered. Vita Pereira would be high on the list, too. But.............. how will BK think this through? Either he's stupid or he's known for some time that this would happen sooner or later and will have had some strategies in place.

Wouldn't be surprised if there was a handshake between Billy and Sir Alex when Moyes came to Goodison 11 years ago. "Eh, Billy, yee can 'ave 'im until I'm ready to throw in the haggis but then he's ours!"

Stuart Gray
106 Posted 11/05/2013 at 07:19:04
Oh I just realised Alex McCleish is available. Surely that would be a match made in heaven.

Scottish, plays shite football and is free. Perfect

Andrew Clare
107 Posted 11/05/2013 at 07:27:59
We have just had 11 years with a tactically inept manager. Please do not hire another one. I will be dreadfully disappointed if we even consider a British Manager.

We want someone who is tactically sophisticated, with someone like this as manager we would already have a head start against the one dimensional teams of the EPL. Remember the School of Science?

John Crawley
130 Posted 11/05/2013 at 09:02:25
Just been reading a bit more about Thomas Tuchel, sounds like he would be worth considering. Here is an interesting article from the Guardian about him. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/sep/23/thomas-tuchel-mainz-bundesliga
Gareth Fieldstead
180 Posted 11/05/2013 at 09:57:40
Still getting my head around Utd taking Moyes, flabberghasted! I honestly thought there was no chance. The complete opposite success wise to Ferguson. For a club whose survival is dependant on winning trophies I think it is a huge risk taking someone who has not come close to winning a trophy in 15 years. More importantly who do we get? Unless the new manager has genuine money to spend we are getting someone from the lower leagues who is desperate for a chance at managing a premiership club or from within. Talk of Ferguson (Southall and Kendall!) with maybe Sheedy as his assistant?
David Minahan
201 Posted 11/05/2013 at 10:57:55
If we have to have another Scot (which for some reason appears to be a "given") why has nobody mentioned ex evertionian Stuart McCall.?

Ok he was born in Leeds but he played for Scotland so that should satisfy David Moyes who bizarrely seems to be having a say in who should succeed him.

He appears to be doing ok at Motherwell where presumably there really is a "shoestring budget" situation.

Paul Dark
869 Posted 12/05/2013 at 00:15:40
As ever, we're aiming too low, far too low. Forget, Mackay, Hughes, Martinez - let's look for an intelligent option: more like Laudrup, Bilic, Klinsmann etc.

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