Arsenal to trigger Fellaini's release clause

Take out the money owed to Standard, and this should mean £20m finding its way into RM's hands. That's if Bill's 100 per cent of money raised from transfers going back to the manager pledge is to be believed.....?

Good to get this sorted one way or another. I think we would miss Fella but not drastically.

I was hoping for a few million quid more.

We will be a stronger team without him so long as Teary Billy gives each one of the sponds to the new gaffer to splash out on a few new players

Fellaini has in my view at any rate become a risky costly liability remembered last season for his meltdown headbutts and elbows as much as anything else he did on the pitch.

Also one of the most over-rated players in the Prem. Ship him, improve the squad, we'll be better for it, and no more of those cringe-making silly black wigs.

Arsene will get a shock when he relaises that Fellaini's idea of holding mid involves holding hands with the two centrebacks and doing nothing more than nodding away goal kicks.

I'll take Adam Maher for starters.

Come on Spurs, are you gonna let Arsenal shit on you like that?

I wouldn't write Jelavic off just yet, he may come good in a 3-5-2 or similar formation, and deserves at least 6 months to prove himself, but Anichebe will never fit in a more mobile forward line, something lacking in his game, but would probably fetch £2-3m?

The key is to try where possible, to get our business done early, and maybe this is one of the faults of the last fella. I was amazed when he said he may watch players 20 odd times before deciding if he was right for the club. (He freely admitted he was indecisive when it came to new signings)

A Negredo to play alongside Jelavic would be mouth watering, and maybe Lescott back for his versatility at left back.

As long as we don't lose Baines, we could come out of this summer window happy with our dealings for the first time in years. If Baines goes for anything less than £25m, that would be a travesty, and is almost priceless because of the chances the creates.

So we have a first team of about 8 first team players, record TV income, 6th place prize money in the world's richest league and even then he's still pushing one of our best players, one who sounds more like he wants stability going into a World Cup than to leave us, out of the door for only 7 - 9 million more than we paid for him about 6 years ago?!!

And what's worse (based on this rumour) we'd be aiding shite like Arsenal in the process?! They're the side we'd need to topple, and we could, to get top 4, so do me and Evertonians around the world a favour Bill, shut your cake hole till 1 September you small time clown!

Good luck Robbie!

I agree wholeheartedly with Eugene - whomever is interested keep leveraging them against one another and raise the price as high as humanly possible. Chelsea, Spurs, Manure, whomever.

Yes, I know that's stating the obvious, thank you very much.

The only bidding war would then be on the terms of his contract if 2 or more clubs were interested, so the only winner of any war would be the big Fella himself.

I don't know this answer, please forgive.

If two Clubs are interested, we still receive all monies above and beyond the release clause.

Correct?

We need a bidding war and I think in Felliani we can get one.

I think if two clubs come in for him the only thing Everton can insist on is cash. I'm not sure about bidding wars because surely anyone releasing the clause would be allowed to speak to him.

The decision would be his alone but we could just find he might want to stick around and see what happens with Martinez. I don't know whether that would a good or bad thing as far as funds would be concerned though.

Statistically, Fellaini is the best defensive mid in the PL plus he has a unique style and is instantly recognisable, which should equate to mucho grande spondulas for whoever buys him. £24m is cheap by football's ridiculous standards. If I was his agent or our sodding sobbing chairman I'd be telling him to give it another year as there will be increased interest in Everton due to a new attacking manager which, given he's a star in the team, would boost his profile and allow him to get on the radar of genuine CL clubs and not the likes of Arsenal who only get there by hook/crook... usually crook recently.

Felli, aim for Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Inter, AC, Barca don't twat about in North London for team who are artificially propped up.

£24M, down to c.£20M post Liege cut + £10M of budget that Bk has alluded to and another £4-5M from Heitinga and we're looking at a decent wedge for Martinez to start with.

Almost as important, if we do lose Felli and Heitinga (on top of mucha, Hitz and Nev) we've got a bit of play on the wage bill too.

Surely that's got to be enough for 1 decent striker (c.£15M), a couple of mids (£10M combined) , back-up keeper (£2-3M) and another decent centre back ($5-6M), especially if we can get some loanage going. Apparently Lukaku wants another year playing first team footballl...have a word Kev!

my question exactly. I would think it's the 'we have to allow him to talk to them if they bid that money' and I'd think any final agreed upon number goes to Everton.

Not 24 mil to Everton and all above that to a third party / player / agent.

I dunno.

Someone crystallize this for the dummy...

I cannot see Moyes standing by while Wenger et al snaffles the big fellow for less than 30mil.

At his best unplayable, at his worst a bit of a waste of space. The question is would Martinez get more great performances out of him than Moyes did? Who knows.

Personally, if it means we can keep Baines and Roberto gets the money to invest I say let him go. I've got a feeling he could dig out a striker and a midfielder for the money that would more than compensate.

Take it.

Carl, you say "the only thing Everton can insist on is cash". Would that be the same cash up front that we got for Rooney? Or the money that came in attached to "appearances, performance etc? Very few transfers are cash up front and Bungling Bill doesn't appear to me to be the right guy to have when it comes down to haggling over terms. Everton appear amateurish and naive when it comes to finances, apart from the Lescott deal which I think Moyes had much to do with. I hope you're right, I hope Fellaini stays around for another season but he, and his arl fella, have been talking up a move for years now.

The only war maybe in terms of what wages they offer him which obviously does not affect us.

We could get 3 or 4 million for Heitinga, however much Moyes had in January and maybe some more from the tv money for Roberto to spend.

We should be keeping our better players.

If there is a bid Lets hope that Martinez Bids For a midfielder before its gets in the press and Everton start getting quotes inflated price because other teams know we have money.

Radja Nainggolan from Cagliari Would be a good looks a beast every time I have seen him play.

Also would Love to See John Lundstrum given a chance next season. He was voted 4th best played in the tourament in the last U20s world cup and he was 17. He is there again with Barkley. Every other player on that list in the top 10 2 years ago starting playing first team football Stirling was 7th , Moyes overlooked Lundstrum big Surprise!

£24 million is the release clause. If somebody meets that then we have to accept the bid. Why would anybody in their right mind try to 'outbid' another team when all they need to do is offer the exact same £24 million.

And as for John's question:
'Does the release clause relate to 'we have to let him go for that money' or is it 'we have to allow him to talk to them if they bid that money'?'

What the hell are you talking about?! How do the two differ?

If the release fee is met then we have to accept the offer. He will discuss terms with other clubs and he will decide his future. It really isn't a tough concept.

However, just to throw a slight spanner in the works, last year Phil McNulty claimed that the release clause was present but that it could well be more than £24 million. He's a bit of a chancer in my opinion so not totally convinced on that 'scoop'.

From what i've heard the release clause is £22m for a champions league club and £24m for others. So the best we can hope for is that a non-champions league club fancy him and the feeling is mutual. Probably not though so £22m it is.

So now we have a situation where our player and his agent have already agreed what Everton will get from his sale, and it wouldn't matter if all the richest clubs in the world want him, we won't get a penny more than is in his release contract.

The thing is, it was a case of either we agree to the clause or Fellaini could have run down his contract and left for nothing.

To be honest, I can sort of understand a release clause from the players point of view. It means they have much more control over their own future - which I know I'd be keen on if I were a player.

Everton's mistake was the figure they agreed on. If we could have pushed it up to £28-£30 million then I'd be much happier.

Anyway, what's done is done. I'd be happy for him to sign a new deal. And I'd be happy for him to go if Martinez gets all the proceeds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/22810350

Dortmund on the other hand will be cash rich and down at least one midfielder in the summer, albeit an attacking one.

Listening to Collymore, every club is meant to be getting at least £60 million with the new TV deal. Mind you, Billy Boy might want to put on a new production down south, so it could be more diamond-studded lawn mowers being bought again.

It makes no sense to sell our best midfielder, it would leave us with Gibson (injury prone) and Osman or Barkley to play in the middle. Any combo of two from those three is significantly weaker than Fellaini add one.

If I'm honest Sam I don't get this notion of selling Fellaini being good for our club. If Moyes had stayed then yes I could see why Fellaini might have gone but with a new manager with new philosophy and the quality we have then I can see him staying.

Having said all of that, if Roberto doesn't fancy him or paying him 75k a week then he might not have a choice.

If (as is widely reported) Fellaini has a release clause in his contract then we have no choice. If a bid is made that meets the release clause then we HAVE to accept it, irrelevant of whether it is good for the team or not. It is a contractual obligation.

The only way around this would be to negotiate a new contract that did not have a release clause in it. Or if Fella himself did not want to go.

Why would we sell our best player though? It makes no sense for us. I'd reject the £24 million.

Haha. We're fighting a losing battle here.

Brian

Probably QPR

We would have finished top six twice and allowed the 4th placed team to buy our best player two years running.

It would have been like villa giving benteke to Wigan in jan. its suicide. Or good plan to make sure we never catch arsenal.

Arsenal could do with a good left back too

Make Rooney capt, give him Neville's, hieghtingas, hitzelsperga and Moyes wages. And tell him to get us fourth place. if we fail sell the three of them if needs be.

Moving to London to get knocked out of champ lqu QF, means nothing.

Leading Everton to the first champ lqu would go down in history. It would mean more than winning any of the medals he's already got!

Are we still obliged to accept both offers?

We would probably have to accept £5m a year for 5 years, if he decided to leave.

Hopefully BK wrote into clause "money up front and excluding the RS(never in top 4 again hopefully) and Arsenal"..... Personally I'd have allowed him to lower it a couple of mil, just to F them 2 off!

But that would assume our board had some foresight.

He may use the curly one like Arteta,but he stands more of a chance getting football every week at Goodson . How many players have thought the grass was greener away from Everton, only for it to been a disaster for them.

Anyway the Arshole aren't guaranteed CL yet,there is a qualifying round yet,and the way they have been playing hot and cold, they might not get it.