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Martinez wants to link back up with Moses
Martinez sold Moses to the Londoners as Wigan manager last August.
The same report suggests that the Blues' new boss is after another former charge in the form of Wigan midfielder James McCarthy.
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Daily Mail
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381 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:48:18
382 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:47:14
383 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:52:38
384 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:42:31
McCarthy looks like a more realistic shout, although, I wouldn't want us to pay over £8-10 million for him.
385 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:57:35
386 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:55:08
387 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:00:07
388 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:54:38
I think Zaha on loan would be perfect for all parties involved. As we know Moyes doesn't like taking a chance on young unproven talent, especially when he's got the wealth of talent to pick from at Man Utd. We could loan Zaha and give him vital premiership experience. Still, wishful thinking, I think
390 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:10:08
393 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:25:59
396 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:45:10
397 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:46:48
398 Posted 08/06/2013 at 23:44:11
Moses though is a good shout as is Lukaku; either of them would do me. Lukaku has gone back to Chelsea and, with them being linked with with a few others, then someone's got to go.
401 Posted 09/06/2013 at 00:06:43
403 Posted 09/06/2013 at 00:08:52
412 Posted 09/06/2013 at 00:46:07
Now, I know sponds is an issue and fingers crossed on that score. But it seems that sponds will be there - according to, hang on, Billy Liar - and we need to build, begin again, and hinging on loans is not the way to do it
421 Posted 09/06/2013 at 02:02:50
423 Posted 09/06/2013 at 02:20:38
He is young, he is good and will be good for years to come. Now it might be the time to get him cheap. He is way better than what we have now and he will be a top player for years.
430 Posted 09/06/2013 at 03:07:26
441 Posted 09/06/2013 at 08:14:47
471 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:45:15
476 Posted 09/06/2013 at 09:59:22
479 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:04:55
Last season we created plenty of chances with the team we have, the only thing missing was putting those chances away. If we had the same team creating the same chances but had a guy(s) sticking them away I have a sneaky feeling we would get the top 4 Martinez has promised!!
Get in 1 or 2 real quality strikers to help Jelavic (who I still think will come good) and we will be laughing come next May.
480 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:07:44
481 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:03:57
Moses is apparently on £50k per week, so considerably less than Fellaini, and probably wouldn't hold us to ransom over a big pay rise. He cost Chelsea £9-10 Million, so anywhere near this valuation should be enough to tempt them to part with him.
From his point of view, Moses is even likelier to fall down the pecking order at Chelsea, with the arrival of Mourinho. In World Cup year in 2014, he would most likely want to be playing regular football next season too. Where would he get a game at Chelsea - Forwards: Torres, Ba, Lukaku, Moses, Kevin Debruyne, Schurrle. Midfield: Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin, Lampard, Ramirez, David Luiz ? And that's before Mourinho has spent his regulation seventy million on two new strikers!
From our point of view, I would love us to have an injection of pace in the team, and Moses (and McManaman!) would certainly provide this.
As we all know, football is more and more becoming a non-contact sport, so the future is pace and trickery. Conversely, the effectiveness of a player like Fellaini will lessen, as the officials target him more and more for his "robust" approach. Fellaini is a disciplinary timebomb, still with a suspect temperament, and will struggle to play 30 league games in England from here on in. Cash in now.
483 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:17:03
He's got plenty of pace, which Martinez prefers in his sides to compliment his style of attacking football; he can take on a man and make things happen... but he is a bit like Lennon of Spurs – his end product isn't the best. But he's young and can improve on that side of things.
We do need pace in the side in attacking areas so we can become dangerous on the counter. Martinez does like his teams to be able to break with speed and within a number of passes, and pace helps to do that. With only Mirallas in an attacking area with any decent pace, it's hard to break fast, but add a Moses to it and it's the start of changing things.
He would be a good signing, but maybe a loan with a view to buy at the end of it, and for less than £10M, would be a good deal.
494 Posted 09/06/2013 at 10:19:50
It's not about so and so being a good player or being pacey etc... It's all about Martinez putting together a team of disciplined,hard working professionals who are 100% commited to his system. Not an easy task but not impossible. Prima Donnas will have to cool it.
512 Posted 09/06/2013 at 11:43:39
If we can't afford to purchase, or loan with a view to purchase, I'd much rather we give some of our own kids a chance in the first team. We have the likes of McAleny, Barkley, Duffy, Junior and the winger we signed from the SPL last season who's name escapes me.
To be honest though, most of the young english talent that has already been snapped up by big clubs are overpriced in transfer fees and salaries. I think a more realistic avenue is to purchase from abroad where prices are far cheaper or perhaps make use of the fact that some of these rich teams with massive squads are under pressure to get rid of large numbers of fringe players for cut-price fees because those players will want to play regularly to get in the euros next year.
517 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:09:18
Just check him out on youtube.. he knows where the goal is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYvtB-i0O1U
520 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:22:38
Can take a decent penalty though.
525 Posted 09/06/2013 at 12:56:21
It goes without saying that Martinez will be linked with some of his ex-players but Victor Moses I hope is not one of them.
Seems like he is another of those many Chelsea fringe players who though talented are not consistent enough, similar to Joe Cole, Sinclair, Sturridge to name but a few who will bounce around from club to club.
Everton have had enough of those kind of players over the years and are just a waste of time and money.
579 Posted 09/06/2013 at 17:08:19
These reports are only speculation at the minute and I expect us to be linked with far more players before the seasons starts. I just hope its a sign that Martinez has spotted we need more pace in wide positions and going forward.
582 Posted 09/06/2013 at 17:31:32
593 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:13:53
Keep in mind that 10m could get you Mirallas and Michu last season with some change to spare.
If him or Lukaku are available on loan it would definitely be worth taking them with a view to a purchase if it goes well but otherwise I think they will likely be overpriced.
596 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:25:44
597 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:21:03
I think he'd probably be available for around £6-8m and maybe if its buy one get another half price we could get Fer as well. Though be amazed if twente wanted to deal with us at all to be honest.
627 Posted 09/06/2013 at 19:32:28
Bye Bye, Victor.
628 Posted 09/06/2013 at 19:38:40
633 Posted 09/06/2013 at 18:27:32
634 Posted 09/06/2013 at 20:18:00
How could you of liked what you saw of the kids when Moyes didn't even play them?
639 Posted 09/06/2013 at 20:37:22
642 Posted 09/06/2013 at 20:53:55
Was I a Moyes fan? Yes I was, he had plenty of faults though- and not playing his youngsters and not using more squad members was the biggest thing that annoyed me about him. Junior was excellent pre-season then he has a bad 45 minutes against Leeds Utd and that was the last we saw of him, think he deserved more of a chance.
For all Moyes's faults I did apprieciate all he did for our club, taking us from annual relegation fodder to regular top 8 team
649 Posted 09/06/2013 at 21:23:31
654 Posted 09/06/2013 at 21:36:51
Peter, Mirallas was never a proper centre forward at Olympiakos, he played on the left of a front 3 most of the time and I personally like him playing out wide. There's plenty of out and out strikers out there to buy, Martinez just has to make the right choice
659 Posted 09/06/2013 at 22:04:15
662 Posted 09/06/2013 at 22:08:47
664 Posted 09/06/2013 at 22:15:44
713 Posted 10/06/2013 at 01:45:22
McCarthy is also a very decent young player but again for the money they want for him I feel there would be better options on the continent especially when a player of Manuel Fernandez's class is available for around £2 million.
732 Posted 10/06/2013 at 07:39:51
749 Posted 10/06/2013 at 10:38:00
775 Posted 10/06/2013 at 13:39:36
923 Posted 11/06/2013 at 08:28:43
A swap for Moses AND Lukaku would be better for us but we'd still need a CM so we might have to push for McEachran too, assuming we'll be completely plotless!!
927 Posted 11/06/2013 at 08:50:15
999 Posted 11/06/2013 at 15:29:33
239 Posted 12/06/2013 at 17:24:44
If we kept Vic as well, he'd be handy to bring on after those 2 run a defence ragid.
Not forgetting Mirallis, stick him behind the front 2 providing the killer balls, and of coarse sticking a few in the net himself is making my mouth water.
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379 Posted 08/06/2013 at 22:48:32