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Arsenal baulk at Fellaini's release clause

13/06/2013 | Comments (39)
Despite being ranked 12th best footballer in BSports Power Football Top 50 Rankings, the Express is now claiming that Marouane Fellaini is not valued highly enough by Arsenal for them to consider triggering the widely rumoured release clause in his current Everton contract.

The newspaper claims that Arsenal have 'indicated' they are unwilling to meet the £23M release clause for the player.

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Michael Kenrick
437 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:03:58
Good!
Tony Waring
438 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:06:12
Hear hear !
Kieran Fitzgerald
439 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:09:50
So much for their supposed change in approach. No sign of a formal request going in and no sign of a bidding war so hopefully he stays.
Scott Hamilton
440 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:10:38
He's not sufficiently passed his prime for Arsenal anyway...
Ray Roche
444 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:31:11
If, as is stated here, that Arsenal have 'indicated' they are unwilling to meet the £23M release clause it just shows what a load of crap the papers are printing in order to sell a copy. All the world and his dog know about the clause, but they were still claiming last week that the Arse were about to join the "race" to sign Fellaini. Total bollocks.
Jamie Barlow
446 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:33:39
Well you can't have him then. Simple.
Geoff Freeman
447 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:32:59
Win win situation, If he stays we keep a great player and if he goes we get the cash to spend on new players . Can't lose for once.
Steve Guy
448 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:40:23
More likely Arsenal hoping to unsettle the player? Maybe get him for less cash or cash plus player? I feel this one will not go away.....
Lee Baines
452 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:47:21
Dunno about you guys but, from an Arsenal perspective, what kind of message does that send out to the player? I wouldn't want to go to a club that told me I was worth less than Stewart Downing!

Absolute jokers, Arsenal are! Whilst they're at it, why don't they put in a cheeky £10m offer for Ronaldo? Or baulk at Cavani's release clause and offer them £6m?

Tell them to stump up enough for release clause or fuck off and go and find the next Joe Allen.

Sid Logan
454 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:50:15
Steve # 448 I agree with you it's sneaky Wenger starting the process of trying to get the price down!

He always does it! To him, every player is overvalued when he's buying and he hopes the magical appeal of playing for him will cause the player to agitate for a move one way or another!

Sam Hoare
455 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:55:22
Geoff, I'm not sure it necessarily a win-win situation. The lose scenario is that we have a protracted Lescott-esque transfer saga that unsettles our player and overshadows the start of the season.

My gut feeling is that the guy wants to move to a champions league club so I hope someone meets the release clause value sooner rather than later so Martinez has some time to spend the cash wisely.

Tony Marsh
456 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:55:17
I reckon Deadly Dave will be back for Fellaini sooner or later. Moyes loves Fellaini as he can play him in 3 roles: holding midfield, attacking midfield or centre forward. Deadly Dave loves utility players and Fella fits the bill.

Then again, BK and Davey have a Bezzie Buddy agreement that Moyes wont be nasty and come back for any of our players... Ha Ha — what fucking nonsense! If Kenwright got a whiff of a Glazier check, he would jump through hoops to cash it. Money talks and bullshit walks...

Sean Lloyd
460 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:14:45
Arsenal - the mingebags of the Premier League.
Mark Tanton
462 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:43:48
Surely that's our title Sean.
Albert Perkins
463 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:29:38
Everton won't drop the price.

I agree with Sam, 455, that this could just be an opening gambit. If someone really wants Felli they should just go for him now. On the positive side, he's obviously not everyone's first choice. On the negative side, it could be one of those last minute buy-out deals when we don't have time to buy replacements. (I wonder if that tactic plays into the scenario, to weaken our team. Paranoia.)

Felli is an attractive proposition, but with that temper of his and his awkward, angular playing style, he might not fit in with the Arsenal school of ballet footy the way Arteta does.
And that hairstyle! It would hardly fit in with the London chic like Arteta's.

Come on Roberto, pull some rabbits out of the hat.

Ben Hayes
464 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:52:19
Sam 445, I believe the clause has a time restraint on it so the deal has to be done early to avoid that. I'm not sure when that is but I have seen it somewhere.
James Morgan
466 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:25:49
Sean, agree with that. But they are also the most profitable.
Mike Hughes
469 Posted 13/06/2013 at 19:30:13
Fine by me.
But, Arsenal, ......if you can't eat at the top table......do one.
Cheapskates!
Ross Edwards
475 Posted 13/06/2013 at 19:47:39
Considering the celebrations by the players and Wenger at the end of the season for getting 4th, it seems that Arsenal are happy to jolly along mascarading as a top club. If they want to even THINK of getting anywhere near a hint of the PL next season, they WILL have to pay higher fees than that for the likes of Jovetic or whoever they're after.
Sean Lloyd
483 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:12:36
@Mark

I meant in a purely Scrooge sort of way! We're the thriftiest of thrift!

James Byrne
488 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:24:29
Steve #448: "More likely Arsenal hoping to unsettle the player? Maybe get him for less cash or cash plus player?

I don't see how we would even be considering any deal unless the clause is triggered regarding the £24/22Million! If no team can trigger the get out clause he isn't going anywhere?

Is that a correct assumption?

Matt Traynor
491 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:44:40
Also apparently the clause has a time factor, so it has to be triggered by a certain date in a given window. No idea what this date is, but it's supposedly to stop us losing the player on deadline day with no time to replace him.

Not sure I believe that though, as I thought Deadline Day was Bill's fave sale day (a la Rooney, Arteta).

Steve Guy
494 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:49:48
James #488. This would not be the first time that, regardless of a contract being in effect that a player has got what they wanted by pressing for a move. Lescott ? Sewer Rat (hopefully / probably)? Bellamy ? Etc.......

So expressing indirect interest by saying the price is too high is a good way to start the ball rolling !

Alex Sinclair
497 Posted 13/06/2013 at 21:16:03
It's not an opening gambit or any other ploy to drive down the price. What it is is a made up story from a man whose job is as cushy as they come. Linking players and clubs with absolutely no comebacks when they're proved to be bullshit. Sports journos, man what a great job they have.
Fellaini will be popular enough that Chelski, Arse and ManUre will all be interested. If anything we'll get more than the buyout, not less.
Peter Bell
549 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:18:34
Tony Marsh I am convinced that Moyes has promised Kenwright an over inflated offer for one of our players, to compensate for letting him run his contract down, that way we still get compo for our manager
Colin Glassar
552 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:39:02
Great. I can see Fellaini leaving on the last day of the transfer window and us not having time to get in a replacement.
Brian Donnelly
554 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:45:18
Alex (497)

Why would a team offer more than the buy-out?

Any extra money they have got will be offered to Fellaini as a signing on fee or additional wages, there is just no point offering EFC more than the price in the contract.

Thomas Windsor
558 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:57:32
If Martinez likes Fellaini, then keep him. It's up to Roberto now what he does.
Phil Sammon
569 Posted 14/06/2013 at 10:55:11
Alex

AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH!

Ray Roche
573 Posted 14/06/2013 at 11:12:13
Brian, interesting point regarding Fellaini and any money above the release clause being trousered by him and his agent, however, surely Everton can still have some say regarding who EFC do business with?

I won't pretend to know anything more than anyone else about release clauses but if Everton own his registration aren't they in a position whereby they can refuse an offer from, say, Arsenal if the deal is cash plus player and our valuation of the make weight is lower than theirs?

Or we don't want to sell to a team we see as a rival, e.g. Arsenal, rather than Man Utd who are a bigger side than both of us. Are we completely impotent if the release clause is triggered and HAVE to take that offer even if a bigger one is received from another club?

Does Fellaini hold all the aces?

John Audsley
574 Posted 14/06/2013 at 11:18:20
Arggh x 1000

You can't get more than the buy-out!!!!

That's why it's called a "buy out"!!!!!!!!

Dear, dear me.

Eric Myles
599 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:30:01
Remember that Arsenal's record signing is £15 mill so to spend £24 on a player they have to be absolutely sure that he's good enough for them and I don't see it.
Steve King
607 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:50:22
Its a bit like the 'buy it now' option on ebay.....you can bid all you want but we are only obliged to accept if you meet the 'buy it now' valuation......which in this case is £23 million.

I, for one, am happy he has the clause! Otherwise I could imagine our board accepting £18-£20million for him. With the clause in place they are more likely to hold out until it is met.

Matt Traynor
609 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:35:02
I used to work with a football agent - a Brit who's licensed by an overseas FA, plus the FA here, although he's predominantly based abroad. The total cost of any transfer can be complex, but can consist of selling fee, signing on fee, agent's fee plus taxes to the applicable FA(s). Within the wages they can also build in the "image rights" component, which relates to how the club markets itself using players images, merchandise with their names etc. It doesn't include player sponsorship which is generally between the sponsoring company and the player/his agent separately.

So, in theory, if the release clause is £24m, then any club meeting that will receive permission to talk to Fellaini and his representatives. However, the clause may stipulate payment method (or it may not) which could mean getting the cash up front, or within 2 years - rather than over the life of the 4-5 year contract offered by the other club. It all depends on the clauses, and how Everton decide to negotiate.

When Newcastle stiffed RS over Carroll, they got another sucker punch in by demanding all £35m up front. The RS had no choice - it was close to deadline.

But it does come down to the minutiae of the clauses. E.g. unless written out, he wouldn't have to demand a transfer so could pocket a "loyalty bonus" as we're selling him! Funny old game...

Personally I don't think clubs in the modern game should be paying agents fees and signing on fees. Some of these can amount to over 35% of the overall transfer. And don't get me started on loyalty bonuses.

Mike Gaynes
637 Posted 14/06/2013 at 15:46:49
Great info, Matt Traynor. Thanks.
Robert Collins
640 Posted 14/06/2013 at 15:50:44
Arsenal are playing a waiting game, if no one else comes in for him they will try to bargain/convince player and EFC to lower the price.

If another club does show serious interest and is willing to meet the price, just watch them change their minds!

Brian Donnelly
780 Posted 15/06/2013 at 09:55:13
Ray (573)

I’m no expert on this, but common sense says the following:

If a club offers less cash than the buy-out then the buy-out isn’t triggered, no matter how many other players they throw in. Once they meet the buy-out clause then EFC have no say in the matter any more – it’s entirely down to Fellaini.

Also the buy-out will almost certainly be all the cash up front. It makes no sense if it isn’t because a team could offer £1m up front and the rest at a £1m per year for the next so many years, which effectively would be a huge devaluation of the player.

My worry is that the incompetent bunch of amateurs in charge of EFC, who undoubtedly consulted all the top lawyers in Britain before drawing up Fellani’s contract, will yet again be found wanting.

Ray Roche
898 Posted 15/06/2013 at 20:15:41
Brian, I share the same worries as you do regarding the clowns in charge of our club, I believe that Bill is so naïve that he could have the wool pulled over his eyes by anyone with a business brain. "Here, Bill, we'll take Fellaini and I promise all the lads will go to Blood Brothers. AND we'll throw in Franny Jeffers" . Or some such deal.

I realise that the clause, once triggered, will enable Fellaini to negotiate a deal with whoever, but if a club offered cash plus player(s) of a similar value would that be acceptable to soft lad. And I can't see £24M being paid up front these days.

Joe Bibb
214 Posted 16/06/2013 at 19:24:21
Ever wondered why their name starts with ARSE?

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