The newspaper claims that Arsenal have 'indicated' they are unwilling to meet the £23M release clause for the player.
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437 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:03:58
438 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:06:12
439 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:09:50
440 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:10:38
444 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:31:11
446 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:33:39
447 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:32:59
448 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:40:23
452 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:47:21
Absolute jokers, Arsenal are! Whilst they're at it, why don't they put in a cheeky £10m offer for Ronaldo? Or baulk at Cavani's release clause and offer them £6m?
Tell them to stump up enough for release clause or fuck off and go and find the next Joe Allen.
454 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:50:15
He always does it! To him, every player is overvalued when he's buying and he hopes the magical appeal of playing for him will cause the player to agitate for a move one way or another!
455 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:55:22
My gut feeling is that the guy wants to move to a champions league club so I hope someone meets the release clause value sooner rather than later so Martinez has some time to spend the cash wisely.
456 Posted 13/06/2013 at 17:55:17
Then again, BK and Davey have a Bezzie Buddy agreement that Moyes wont be nasty and come back for any of our players... Ha Ha — what fucking nonsense! If Kenwright got a whiff of a Glazier check, he would jump through hoops to cash it. Money talks and bullshit walks...
460 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:14:45
462 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:43:48
463 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:29:38
I agree with Sam, 455, that this could just be an opening gambit. If someone really wants Felli they should just go for him now. On the positive side, he's obviously not everyone's first choice. On the negative side, it could be one of those last minute buy-out deals when we don't have time to buy replacements. (I wonder if that tactic plays into the scenario, to weaken our team. Paranoia.)
Felli is an attractive proposition, but with that temper of his and his awkward, angular playing style, he might not fit in with the Arsenal school of ballet footy the way Arteta does.
And that hairstyle! It would hardly fit in with the London chic like Arteta's.
Come on Roberto, pull some rabbits out of the hat.
464 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:52:19
466 Posted 13/06/2013 at 18:25:49
469 Posted 13/06/2013 at 19:30:13
But, Arsenal, ......if you can't eat at the top table......do one.
475 Posted 13/06/2013 at 19:47:39
483 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:12:36
I meant in a purely Scrooge sort of way! We're the thriftiest of thrift!
488 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:24:29
I don't see how we would even be considering any deal unless the clause is triggered regarding the £24/22Million! If no team can trigger the get out clause he isn't going anywhere?
Is that a correct assumption?
491 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:44:40
Not sure I believe that though, as I thought Deadline Day was Bill's fave sale day (a la Rooney, Arteta).
494 Posted 13/06/2013 at 20:49:48
So expressing indirect interest by saying the price is too high is a good way to start the ball rolling !
497 Posted 13/06/2013 at 21:16:03
Fellaini will be popular enough that Chelski, Arse and ManUre will all be interested. If anything we'll get more than the buyout, not less.
549 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:18:34
552 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:39:02
554 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:45:18
Why would a team offer more than the buy-out?
Any extra money they have got will be offered to Fellaini as a signing on fee or additional wages, there is just no point offering EFC more than the price in the contract.
558 Posted 14/06/2013 at 08:57:32
569 Posted 14/06/2013 at 10:55:11
573 Posted 14/06/2013 at 11:12:13
I won't pretend to know anything more than anyone else about release clauses but if Everton own his registration aren't they in a position whereby they can refuse an offer from, say, Arsenal if the deal is cash plus player and our valuation of the make weight is lower than theirs?
Or we don't want to sell to a team we see as a rival, e.g. Arsenal, rather than Man Utd who are a bigger side than both of us. Are we completely impotent if the release clause is triggered and HAVE to take that offer even if a bigger one is received from another club?
Does Fellaini hold all the aces?
574 Posted 14/06/2013 at 11:18:20
You can't get more than the buy-out!!!!
That's why it's called a "buy out"!!!!!!!!
Dear, dear me.
599 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:30:01
607 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:50:22
I, for one, am happy he has the clause! Otherwise I could imagine our board accepting £18-£20million for him. With the clause in place they are more likely to hold out until it is met.
609 Posted 14/06/2013 at 13:35:02
So, in theory, if the release clause is £24m, then any club meeting that will receive permission to talk to Fellaini and his representatives. However, the clause may stipulate payment method (or it may not) which could mean getting the cash up front, or within 2 years - rather than over the life of the 4-5 year contract offered by the other club. It all depends on the clauses, and how Everton decide to negotiate.
When Newcastle stiffed RS over Carroll, they got another sucker punch in by demanding all £35m up front. The RS had no choice - it was close to deadline.
But it does come down to the minutiae of the clauses. E.g. unless written out, he wouldn't have to demand a transfer so could pocket a "loyalty bonus" as we're selling him! Funny old game...
Personally I don't think clubs in the modern game should be paying agents fees and signing on fees. Some of these can amount to over 35% of the overall transfer. And don't get me started on loyalty bonuses.
637 Posted 14/06/2013 at 15:46:49
640 Posted 14/06/2013 at 15:50:44
If another club does show serious interest and is willing to meet the price, just watch them change their minds!
780 Posted 15/06/2013 at 09:55:13
I’m no expert on this, but common sense says the following:
If a club offers less cash than the buy-out then the buy-out isn’t triggered, no matter how many other players they throw in. Once they meet the buy-out clause then EFC have no say in the matter any more – it’s entirely down to Fellaini.
Also the buy-out will almost certainly be all the cash up front. It makes no sense if it isn’t because a team could offer £1m up front and the rest at a £1m per year for the next so many years, which effectively would be a huge devaluation of the player.
My worry is that the incompetent bunch of amateurs in charge of EFC, who undoubtedly consulted all the top lawyers in Britain before drawing up Fellani’s contract, will yet again be found wanting.
898 Posted 15/06/2013 at 20:15:41
I realise that the clause, once triggered, will enable Fellaini to negotiate a deal with whoever, but if a club offered cash plus player(s) of a similar value would that be acceptable to soft lad. And I can't see £24M being paid up front these days.
214 Posted 16/06/2013 at 19:24:21
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