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Everton 'in talks' with Sigueira

18/06/2013 | Comments (45)
Everton are "in talks" with representatives of Guilherme Siqueira of La Liga side Granada according to the Daily Mail.

The report suggests that Roberto Martinez is keen on the 27 year-old as a potential replacement for Leighton Baines should the England international move on this summer.

Rated at £4.5m, Sigueira is also reportedly in advanced talks with Galatasaray.

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Ross Edwards
636 Posted 18/06/2013 at 18:50:59
No. If we are to replace our best player, I don't want some random Spaniard to replace him. I want a top left back to replace him. If Bainesy goes we need someone proven to replace him and this guy isn't it.

Maybe if Bainesy leaves we could snap up Abidal after he left Barca. I thought the way they treated him was disgraceful. I think he has 3 or 4 years left in him. I prepare for the criticism but I think we should consider Abidal if Baines is sold.

Peter Thistle
637 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:00:06
What does that mean for Oviedo ? How much further down the pecking order can he go.

Then again, it's the daily mail, prolly bollocks.

Mark Frere
638 Posted 18/06/2013 at 18:59:21
Must be true coming from Daily Mail
Jamie Barlow
640 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:00:48
It's probably Abidals last contract so he'll go where the money is. He's already making noises about Monaco.

Baines isn't going anywhere anyway.

Robin Cannon
641 Posted 18/06/2013 at 18:59:18
That kind of destroys the point of the sale in the first place. The basis for any sale of Baines would be to receive a large transfer fee. Then using that money for the fee/wages of a "top left back" would destroy any reason for the sale in the first place.

Not that I want him to leave, but if we're raising money to provide wider benefit of the team, then obviously we can't simply reinvest the same money in an equivalent player.

I also don't think that, good as he was, a player who'll be 34 at the start of the new season and has played, what, one full 90 minutes at first team level in the last year, since recovering from a liver transplant?

James Stewart
652 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:30:39
Luke Shaw is the man to replace Baines should it come to that.
Ben Jones
656 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:35:25
I know this is completely irrelevant, but he's ridiculously good on Football Manager, almost as good as Baines!!

I think the best replacement for Baines, and one that is decently affordable, would be Danny Rose to be honest. Leaves us a bit more money to spend on a really class striker then.

Robert Collins
657 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:33:31
Ross Edwards @ 639

If you look in your copy of the Socialist Worker (or maybe the "Fifth International") you'll find EFC have approached Barca about Messi?

Ross Edwards
662 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:49:13
Really Robert, what does Pravda say?
Robert Collins
663 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:50:57
I wouldn't know, do you?
Mark Frere
664 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:43:58
James Stewart
Luke Shaw would be my choice to replace Baines, not sure Southampton would be willing to do business with us though. Southampton don't seem to be shy with spending money on players, so I don't think they will be looking to sell one of the most promising LBs in the country.

I think Shaw looks top drawer and I think he will end up at one of the big SKY teams in the end, having been sold to them for over £20 million

Ross Edwards
666 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:54:45
Well, anyway, Baines' replacement must be proven at PL or European level, not some randomer from Spain. And don't look anywhere near Scandinavia Bobby!
Ben Jones
668 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:57:41
Danny Rose Ross?

To be honest, I think Oviedo could do the job as well

Ross Edwards
671 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:59:10
I'm still unconvinced by Bryan though Ben. If Baines leaves I hope he gets a chance.
Phil Sammon
672 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:00:02

Some very daft comments already.

Dick Brady
675 Posted 18/06/2013 at 19:55:03
If Baines does depart this summer then should Martinez not give Luke Garbutt a chance??

And if Martinez feels Garbutt is not good enough then we should just send Garbutt permanently to the lower leagues like we did with Jake Bidwell.

I'm so sick of these 'promising' youngsters who hang around the club for years but never get near the first team. If I was Martinez I would take a long hard look at players like Vellios, Duffy, Garbutt, Stones, Junior, McAleny and Kennedy and decide, either start using them in the first team or get them off the payroll.

There is no room for passengers at Everton and if this current group of youngsters aren't good enough then they should make room for the next group like Hope, Browning, Long, Springthorpe and Green.

Shane Corcoran
676 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:01:38
Ross, are you an alcoholic? Your comments increasingly suggest so.

A random Spanish player (which you've said in two different posts)? So if this were true you reckon RM stuck his hand in a bowl and pulled him out?

Ross Edwards
677 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:04:31
Why doesn't that surprise you Phil?
David Hallwood
678 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:01:15
I wouldn't mind a punt on Ipswich's Aaron Cresswell he's young and used to play for Tranmere, and I think he's yet another from the academy and he's a Merseysider. He's a Baines-alike; good left foot and good crosser of the ball plus he's got a goal or two in him. If the price was right why not. Remember Baines came from a 'small club'
Ross Edwards
679 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:04:56
"Ross, are you an alcoholic?"

If Bill and his circus continue to cock up and linger like a bad smell for all eternity it's the only route to turn to Shane...

Robin Cannon
680 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:04:18
Uncapped left back playing for lower level top division club in Spain is "some randomer from Spain".

Much like the uncapped left back playing for a lower level top division club in England would be "some randomer from England". Someone like, I dunno, Leighton Baines when we signed him?

Mark Frere
682 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:07:56
Ross Edwards 671

Why are you unconvinced in Oviedo? We didn't really see him playing LB last season, we saw him playing LM and I thought he looked pretty damn useful when given brief opportunities. Oviedo looked energetic, had a trick or two, and had lots of pace. I really hope Martinez gives him more chances then DM did.

We still haven't seen him at LB playing enough to make a real judgement though.

Ross Edwards
683 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:22:42
Precisely the reason. His lack of starts Mark.
Arild Andersen
687 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:43:06
Oviedo came from a Scandinavian club; must be useless then...
Mark Frere
688 Posted 18/06/2013 at 20:48:49
Yes but he's from Costa Rica, so that doesn't count Arild. You see Scandinavian's have shit genetics when it comes to playing football
James Martin
690 Posted 18/06/2013 at 21:03:29
If I was a new manager who liked using a wingback system then I would probably be in the market for a LB as well. With Neville departing we have one proven player who can play leftback.

Who knows what is going on with Oviedo, maybe Martinez doesn't see him as a leftback, maybe Moyes had a reason for not playing him. Let's be honest the wonderkid Barkley who some fans though Moyes was deliberately repressing because he was dour actually got more game time than Oviedo. As did Hitzlsperger. I'd love ot be proven wrong and he comes flying out the blocks next season but there could well be osmething amiss. If there is then a side chaisng European football can not go a whole season with one leftback on the books. It would be the media's dream for Baines to go - they seem a bit uncomfotable with the fact that a player that good is outside the moneyed clubs. They think if they print something enough then it will eventually happen and at the ridiculously low price of their choosing. If Baines does go it should be for a stonking fee - but I don't think he will and I think if this rumour is true this guy would just be much needed back up.

Phil Sammon
691 Posted 18/06/2013 at 21:28:26

Distin can play there with relative comfort. If we want to try new options then there's Oviedo and even Garbutt. Hibbo could do a job as a bit of a last resort too.

I get your point. I think we'd all like proven cover in every position, but I just think money could be better spent elsewhere. The team needs to add quality rather than just adding numbers.

James Stewart
692 Posted 18/06/2013 at 21:37:26

I think you are probably right there. I think Chelsea have been sniffing around him already as the man to replace Cole. Still if we lost Baines then he is by far the best young LB out there so why not try for him.

Simon Templeman
698 Posted 18/06/2013 at 22:12:38
Daily Mail/ Daily Mirror. Opposite sides of the same coin. Is this not a footballing website?
Rob Dolby
699 Posted 18/06/2013 at 22:13:22
Oviedo looks sharp to me. If Baines goes then he deserves a chance. Roberto needs to be looking at a striker and centre mid, never mind full back.
Mark Frere
703 Posted 18/06/2013 at 22:28:43
I really hope Baines stays, it really comes down to weather Baines is happy to spend the rest of his peak years he has left, playing at Everton, just hope he signs a new improved contract sooner rather then later.

Fellaini on the other hand, I hope we sell, it would bring our club much needed funds and give RM plenty of room for manuver in the transfer market. Fellaini is a luxury we can afford to sacrifice to help Martinez buy quality in various different positions.

With Sky money, money left over from january and selling Fellaini and Heitinger, Martinez should be looking at a £40 million war chest, Think RM could do some real serious business with that amount

James Flynn
705 Posted 18/06/2013 at 22:15:33
Seems plain enough:

Sigueira in = £4.5 million

Baines out = £15-20 million

With our owners, what's to figure?

Steve Lyth
707 Posted 18/06/2013 at 23:03:14
Shaw is absolute class... he was the best player on the park when we played at St Mary's.
Tom Bowers
710 Posted 18/06/2013 at 23:32:44
Bainesy has been very consistent but, let's face it, he won't last forever and Everton have to look to grooming a replacement.Certainly they should start at home first and I think Oviedo must be given the chance. I was concerned at some of Bainsey's defensive work last season but his prowess as an attacker more than compensates.

Having said all that, one cannot afford to turn down big money for him if the bids come in, just like Fellaini, especially when they are arguably at the top of their games.

Vijay Nair
717 Posted 19/06/2013 at 00:25:19
Mark Frere 688 - Scandinavian's have shit genetics when it comes to playing football.

Really?? Messrs Ibrahimovic and Kjaer would be just a couple that debunk your theory.

Have you forgotten Limpar? He was a great player for us, Scandinavian too. (OMG!)

Just because we had a few duds in Krøldrup and Jacobsen doesn't mean all Scandinavians are crap.

Harold Matthews
719 Posted 19/06/2013 at 00:37:02
Oviedo is an intelligent player with the ability to cross the ball accurately at pace. Martinez will like him.
Matt Traynor
720 Posted 19/06/2013 at 00:54:24
Vijay #717, the clue is in his name. His father is Bosnian, his mother Croatian. Probably not too many Scandinavian genes messing up his football in there....
Roman Sidey
723 Posted 19/06/2013 at 00:12:49
I didn't see Oviedo play anything except all the Prem minutes he had. Don't know how he went in reserves when he did play, but what I saw of him in the top flight was enough to convince me that he is worth a shot, and I'd even be happy to seem him and Baines play down the same left flank together. Throw Pienaar over on the right with Coleman and you've got Mirallas to rove the middle.

Either way, I can't see Baines leaving, but having a 23-year-old that has shown he can run, pass and cross certainly doesn't have me all too worried. To be perfectly honest, without seeing him more than a dozen times, he's probably already the second or third best full-back we've had in over a decade.

Matt Traynor
724 Posted 19/06/2013 at 01:34:11
Roman #723, like you I only saw his limited PL appearances, however given it's his first season in the Prem (like Mirallas) I'm hoping for a lot more from both in 13/14 - particularly if Mirallas gets games up front. If I'm being honest and slightly harsh, Pienaar was a bit of a let down for me.

Also like you I can't see Baines leaving. Then again, I couldn't see Moyes getting the Man U job so I'll STFU in case I jinx things!

Roman Sidey
726 Posted 19/06/2013 at 01:49:49
Agree completely, Matt. I've said it before, but Baines has shown in bigger ways in the past that he is a home-boy who doesn't like to be away from his family, so I'd be surprised if he left Everton.

Like you, I also think Pienaar has a fairly average season at best, and needs to really amp it up this coming season if he's going to justify all the BS he caused coming and going.

As much as this is going to sound like a really boring soundbite that the club would pump out around now, but we have a pretty good crop of players and actually have a depth that a lot of people don't acknowledge.

To be honest, if a club put in a decent bid for Baines – £15m+ knowing our owners – it wouldn't be the end of the world. I don't know and have never heard of this bloke Sigueira, though.

Paul Andrews
730 Posted 19/06/2013 at 06:02:19
Phil Sammon,

Distinct would not be able to play left back in the Martinez style of football.
He likes his full backs to be up and down the line,offering options in attacking football constantly.
Distinct would not have the legs,great player that he is.

Vijay Nair
732 Posted 19/06/2013 at 06:54:00
Matt #720 - the clue is in his name...

Yes, Matt I am aware of his heritage, I was referring to the fact that he is Scandinavian but not shite, but point taken.

Perhaps you (or Mark) could address the Scandinavian gene theory in regards to the other players I mentioned?

Ben Jones
856 Posted 19/06/2013 at 15:58:14

More interesting rumours - Hugo Almeida

Dave Southon
857 Posted 19/06/2013 at 15:57:19
What's with this talk of him being Spanish?

Guilherme Siqueira is from Brazil.

Mark Frere
879 Posted 19/06/2013 at 17:27:54
Vijay Nair

I was joking, I know scandinavians's don't have shite gene's, its totally ridiculous for anyone to think so. There's some terrific scandinavian players past and present:

M Laudrup
B Laudrup
T Gravesen
Z Ibrahimovic

And many more.........

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