Season 2015-16
Opinion
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Getting rid?
New coach, new dawn, new players. It's all good. There is plenty of speculation about who we will buy. I enjoy it though I accept it is pointless. What I don't understand is Evertonians with a "get rid", list.
In my view, every player at the club should have a chance. I believe some of our squad could perhaps be a revelation under a proper coach. Super fit, well motivated and confident. None of that costs money. Oumar Niasse for example. He may indeed be not much good... but, to judge him on the very limited chance he has had, seems to me to be harsh. Fit, a run in the side, confidence boosted; who knows what we might see? Anyway, someone at our club thought he was good.
I think every player should have a clean slate. When the influence of the abysmal Roberto Martinez is removed, who knows what we might have? It might be like half-a-dozen new signings.
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2 Posted 17/06/2016 at 22:32:48
3 Posted 18/06/2016 at 03:07:26
Do you personally know any of the board? That my friend is the hierarchy; below that is bullshit.
7 Posted 18/06/2016 at 05:26:31
We fans watch the game and then come on ToffeeWeb to discuss it. Of course we are all going to have our opinions of who should be in or out of the door... and surely this is the forum in which to discuss it.
I'm sure every player will be given a chance, especially our 3rd most expensive signing. If he gets slung out on his arse then it's because he's not good enough not because the fans are out to get him.
8 Posted 18/06/2016 at 05:29:35
I have been particularly cheesed off with Romalu Lukaku's comments to the press but let's see how our new gaffer handles it.
One player who I think will really benefit from the appointment of Ronald Koeman is Kevin Mirallas.
10 Posted 18/06/2016 at 07:22:29
11 Posted 18/06/2016 at 07:34:06
A few private chats with the boss will sort this out one way or the other... and like Mr Clough said after one of these chats with a player, 'We both found I was right.'
Thanks to Ossie, Hibbo & Peanuts, varying degrees of ability here but time waits for no man. Ability or lack of it will also help Mr Koeman decide on his starting squad.
12 Posted 18/06/2016 at 08:33:11
I don't have connections (at least not like I did years ago). This was at a social function, and there was a photograph of me and the person concerned on the Offside Forum a few weeks ago.
He told me Niasse was not scouted, he is shite, and that Rom, and probably Stones would be leaving this summer.
I am full of shit, haven't had my ablutions yet this morning, as I've got up early to watch Wales get slaughtered in New Zealand. Would you be so kind, Dan, as to post your pic on Tinypic on the OF, and I'll print it off. Short of Andrex until the wife goes shopping, mate.
Andy O that's why I didn't name him mate, and I would normally do the same, but Niasse is a special case. As are those who bought him!
Thanks to the lads supporting me, but don't ban him please mods. It's dickheads like Dan's opinions that keep the site interesting, if not exactly poet laureate stuff.
13 Posted 18/06/2016 at 08:36:47
Mirallas to excel this season I think, like you, Laurie.
14 Posted 18/06/2016 at 11:25:31
Keith, don't get me wrong, I love it when you (and others) post on here about things you hear; you won't get any shit from me about un-named sources. It's always interesting to see if they come true.
15 Posted 18/06/2016 at 11:37:45
16 Posted 18/06/2016 at 11:46:21
As for Lukaku, if this transcript is right we shouldn't have him anywhere near the first team. He might have huge playing potential but he's also got huge potential to disrupt the dressing room too. Egotistical prick - has he not watched back how bad he was against Italy?
A big part of me realises this is all engineered to force a move so fine, he can have his move. Put a price on his head and put him in the reserves until someone meets it. And as for upping his wages? You're having a laugh.
"...the Red Devils frontman seemingly has his heart set on a move to a 'great project'.
'I'll go to a club that will give me the chance to be part of a great project,' Lukaku told GQ Magazine.
'I'm only 23, I still have to improve. But I want to win titles because that's what we remember at the end of a career.'
'PSG is a big club, with a magnificent project and a world-class workforce. But everything is in the hands of my agent.'
'Many clubs are obviously interested in having me. I must continue to play well. If I have a good European Championships more clubs will be interested in me,
'But I am still under contract with Everton. We'll see what happens.'"
17 Posted 18/06/2016 at 11:51:29
Give me strength.
18 Posted 18/06/2016 at 12:12:23
It would be nice if he started, How about the FA Cup, the chances he missed in the semi? He was about much use as a plastic fireguard that day.
19 Posted 18/06/2016 at 12:15:42
20 Posted 18/06/2016 at 12:26:39
This guy despite being 'quite' good is openly taking the piss out of a club the size of Everton! A club which took a chance on him for huge money (I didn't hear of a queue of others) a club who pays him a fortune, a club who picks him when playing badly, gives him the penalty duties to boost his stats despite being crap at penalties!
My view is I thinks his mouth has damaged the relationship beyond repair! £65m and goodbye would be my preference!
21 Posted 18/06/2016 at 12:55:15
The player goes off talking to the press, gets the fans' backs up about him so they don't want him around the place anymore, which in turn makes it easier for them to be sold (the club doesn't want a hated player on the roster).
It does work - look at Sterling from across the park!
So, I'd say yes Rom is to blame, but I blame that rat Raiola the most... the lad is being badly advised and if nobody ponies up the dosh we want for him, it's going to be a difficult season for him as he's going to be forced to backtrack on all the codswallop he's put out in recent months (in fact it has already begun with his "I'm under contract at Everton" comment recently).
22 Posted 18/06/2016 at 12:58:23
After his hopeless performance in Belgium's first game my betting is he won't start their next one.
He has an obsession with winning things regardless of the quality of the league he is in. If this is the case then PSG, the french Celtic, is the ideal club. Super rich in a third rate league of paupers. Win the stuff every year.
Only 5 of the current french squad play for french clubs and a couple of those are looking for moves. French football is for overpaid has beens and not good enoughs. He'll fit right in.
Also players are not remembered for the cups they won but for the loyalty, service and entertainment they provided for the fans. Some great players never won anything but they'll always be remembered.
23 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:18:31
He's good on his day but not half as good as he thinks he is.
I trust Koeman's judgement and I'm sure the new boss wants to keep him...but to be honest I'll be very disappointed to see him in an Everton shirt next season.
24 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:26:34
Yep. The likes of Wrexham, Chester, Tranmere and Southport!!!
25 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:27:11
26 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:34:59
㿭 mill might be a tad optimistic but to be honest I would take anything that makes us a profit just to rid our club from such an egotistical,arrogant individual.
His influence in the dressing mood must be detrimental to team spirit, so thanks Rom, see ya!
27 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:54:51
28 Posted 18/06/2016 at 13:55:30
Rom will always score goals but he has poor ball control and there are many others who could do a better job up front for the right price.
The man has made the statements about leaving and quite honestly it would be crazy to start offering a new deal to get him to stay.
Niasse at the moment is an enigma. The club kept saying he wasn't fit enough to get the playing time since January and I suppose to be fair Big K needs to see him play before making any decisions as he does a few others especially in pre-season games.
29 Posted 18/06/2016 at 14:17:41
All the faults and strengths there to see, especially faults!!
30 Posted 18/06/2016 at 14:30:46
31 Posted 18/06/2016 at 15:05:16
32 Posted 18/06/2016 at 15:08:42
Lazy run....
Bad touch...
BANG!
34 Posted 18/06/2016 at 15:37:12
Quite like Axel Witsel. Long works harder than Lukaku but doesn't have the talent. Would only buy as a squad player. Lukaku wants it all on a plate. Something in between would be useful as need 1-11 working hard next season.
35 Posted 18/06/2016 at 15:41:57
John @6 sorry I'm not up to your educational standards my friend. Thought this was about football not English lessons? Thanks for helping me out though.
36 Posted 18/06/2016 at 16:16:00
37 Posted 18/06/2016 at 16:16:39
39 Posted 19/06/2016 at 10:04:13
In other words, toe the line at all times. Then you'll be a ToffeeWebber, my son !
40 Posted 19/06/2016 at 10:43:21
41 Posted 19/06/2016 at 12:11:52
You know someone in the Everton hierarchy who thinks he's shit... Well I think his opinion means fuckall mate. Koeman will judge him, and we will see what happens.
42 Posted 19/06/2016 at 12:58:43
I think you put it even better in an earlier post Andy: an amnesty for all.
As for those claiming to be "in the know," there have been many such claims down the years. There was a whole plethora of wildly ranging views before and after Roberto's dismissal claiming 'insider knowledge.' None of them - not one of them, from my recall - proved correct.
Some enjoy and give credence to such claims. Each to their own. Me? I take such posts with a large pinch of salt, or if you prefer, giant sized roll of Andrex.
43 Posted 19/06/2016 at 13:49:40
I take it then John you see yourself as my educational and moral better, otherwise why get involved? I'm sure Keith is more than capable of looking after himself and doesn't need you acting like his Rottweiler.
Where I'm from being called ignoramus and despicable is way more insulting than being called full of shit! Hey different strokes for different folks.
44 Posted 20/06/2016 at 12:20:45
I've been away for the weekend, so just back on here now.
There also seems a lot of people who are 'In the Know' about who isn't 'in the know'.
The guy I spoke to was one of those in charge of the game against Norwich. If he doesn't know, I suggest no-one does. I had also posted the same previously, and virtually named the guy as I figured it wasn't breaking a confidence - as everyone and his dog could see Niasse is shite.
The rest of the stuff I was told will remain with me.
It would be great to getting back to miserable ToffeeWebbers as this glorious new beginning looks like being too much for some of us to bear.
45 Posted 20/06/2016 at 22:19:43
46 Posted 20/06/2016 at 23:38:17
Exciting times ahead methinks without a clue from anybody at the club, I hasten to add. Even so, there appears to be posters with considerably more knowledge than the last guy to win us silverware, but I think I'd trust his judgement to theirs.
47 Posted 21/06/2016 at 10:51:07
48 Posted 23/06/2016 at 20:47:51
Right get his shoes and socks off and I'll get the bamboo cane
Spill, Harrison
49 Posted 23/06/2016 at 21:02:03
When he did play, he wasn't as bad as I imagined him to be; nothing special but not useless nor should he be, considering the money he cost. Let's see how he performs after a full pre-season training period behind him.
By the way, if I'm not mistaken, Harold Mathews in one of his posts, said he liked the look of him and Harold wasn't a bad judge.
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1 Posted 17/06/2016 at 22:08:30
If RK can transform him, he should change his name to Paul Daniels.