Roberto Martinez has been forced to acknowledge his team's wildly contrasting fortunes on the road and at Goodison Park this season as he prepares for the visit of Southampton tomorrow.
The manager was asked about Everton's poor home record, one that could end up being the worst in club history if the recent pattern of results continues, during his press conference today and he admitted once more that results in front of the team's own fans have not been good enough.
“It's a very interesting point because there have been contrasting results [at home and away]. I wouldn't say performances; I think at times we've had performances that have been good enough to get positive results but at home we haven't reached that.
“You're looking at two defeats from 16 away from home; that's probably a club record and it's as good as we've been. Since we beat Southampton, our standards and our performances away from home have been really strong and that's what we wanted. Clearly it's an away record that would get you top four in the League.
“At home is totally contrasting. Eight defeats is nowhere near good enough and that's where you normally build your league campaign, on the strength of the results at home, and that's a contrasting story that's very, very difficult to explain.”
Martinez's bid to arrest a three-game losing streak at Goodison will be hampered by the continued absence of captain Phil Jagielka and minor injuries to a number of other first-team regulars, including Romelu Lukaku.
The Belgian strained his groin at Selhurst Park in midweek and he is a doubt for the visit of the Saints. Lukaku has typically been able to either shake off or play through small knocks in the past but Martinez could be more hesitant to use him than usual given that the FA Cup semi-final is just a week away.
The same could go for the likes of Ross Barkley, Aaron Lennon and Leighton Baines, all of whom were assessed at Finch Farm today for their availability for tomorrow.
“At the moment, we know we need to be perfect and on top of that you are always holding your breath because maybe when you throw a two-goal lead with 12 minutes to go against West Ham, that could damage you," Martinez told the Liverpool Echo in the print media portion his time in front of the press today.
“That is where the work is, believing immensely that we are a very good side, that we can rely on our fans and make Goodison a really tough place once more.
“I don't think you can consider tomorrow's game as a 'Goodison' performance. Tomorrow's game is the third in a five game block that we need to be at a very good level and clearly that is going to be very important for very different reasons than just playing at home.
“Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.
“In the same way, a win tomorrow wouldn't guarantee us to be at the best level in the next two games."
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1 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:03:53
Poor management, coaching, belief....
The list is endless...
2 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:05:35
Well, Bobby Buffoon, how many games have we won away from home and who have they been against?
3 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:05:46
4 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:15:46
I don't know why I just typed all that... everybody who reads this knows the score by now.
5 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:17:03
6 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:21:22
You're spot on with the slow build-up play though. It then just peters out at the half way line and a "what the fuck do we do with it now" type of mindset. "Oh, back to Stones then". Shit...
Martinez continues to get an easy ride at the press conferences. I thought last week's negativity from Prentice at the Echo was a bit of a watershed for him, but no, the "moment" has not been followed up by Prentice or O'Keeffe etc. They should be hammering this charlatan at every opportunity.
The gloves came off over the Baines quotes and his misrepresentation claims, but the Echo has backed off for some reason. It seems Bill has friends even in Oldham!
7 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:23:33
He's really in a special moment right now.
8 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:25:22
9 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:31:54
He should be saying we will do our best to win this game comfortably and give some of the fringe players a chance to stake a Wembley claim. One loss away from our worst ever home form.
11 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:36:08
12 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:44:12
13 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:45:04
The fans anxiety gets picked up by the players and a negative cycle starts effecting their performance. I know I don't enjoy watching the team at Goodison Park now as there's a sense of stress in the crowd from the kick-off, and I'm just waiting for the crowd to start getting on the players backs. It's not a good experience at the moment.
14 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:45:47
Desperate times, indeed.
15 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:46:18
Sadly, across the park, is a perfect example of how a new manager at the helm can galvanise a squad of players who I believe, our inferior to our own.
We are led to believe that BK's right hand man on Merseyside, the one who effectively runs the club whilst Kenwright recuperates from whatever serious illness he has at home, Robert Elstone,can understand and realise, the absolute distaste the fanbase feel for this man.
Whilst we all cling to the hope we can win the FA Cup, the fans and most certainly the senior players in the team, basically don't trust him anymore.
If he remains in the job come August, many fans will simply not renew their season tickets, the hierarchy at the club must surely realise this?
We live in hope common sense will prevail.
16 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:47:59
17 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:53:57
Shut up, close ranks, get a siege mentality going with the players to rile some anger in them, then get the results.
No more talking. Just walk the walk. Simple.
18 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:54:53
My question is where the fuck is Kenwright or Moshiri in all this? Their collective silence is deafening but surely they have some sort of responsibility to us long suffering fans. Somebody, somewhere say something, for God's sake. Over to you Kenwright or Moshiri.
Oh, and by the way, Bill, you are a total embarrassment to this club. There is a saying that, if you truly love someone, sometimes it is better to let them go.
First thing has to be that you fuck Martinez off, sooner rather than later. Come on, Bill, grow a pair and show us fans (who by the way you would be nothing without) that you mean business.
19 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:54:53
20 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:57:49
21 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:02:09
Are you serious? Bill has just found us a UK-based billionaire with a creditable track record in the EPL at a time of global financial turmoil. Asset values are tumbling all over the world, yet we found one willing to invest his own cash. You may not like Kenwright and I know he's not perfect, but for this single act alone he deserves serious credit.
Moshiri will transform our club and its largely down to Kenwright that we are lucky enough to have him.
22 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:08:43
He's so contradictory and idiotic its beyond belief, I'd rather leave a nicely rounded turd on my living room carpet (which isn't in great nick but who cares!) than listen to anymore of his bumbling.
Where's the gin?
23 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:11:14
Recent AGMs have shown that the CEO-now a Director- covers the Chairman's arse bloody well. But he can hardly be unaware of the current feelings of the fanbase and certainly his job is hardly made easier by the frantic and dotty outpourings of the manager and public reaction to them.
Of course, he and the Board must show togetherness but, for all too long, that has meant doing nothing. I am beginning to think our new 'half-owner' has been quietly stitched up. I wonder how long it will take him to realise it?
24 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:11:52
If he was my boss I'd have zero respect for him purely based on the diatribes he comes out with week after week.
25 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:13:36
“Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.
“In the same way, a win tomorrow wouldn't guarantee us to be at the best level in the next two games, I just think this block of five games will give us a lot of information at the end and it is the most significant period we've had this season."
26 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:14:21
God forbid, I sincerely hope he does, but as yet we are all still in the dark as to what he REALLY intends to do over the next 12 months. I hope he turns out to be a hard-nosed businessman who turns the club upside down commercially and on the playing side, but the fact remains we simply 'don't know'.
As for lauding Kenwright as some knight in shining armour, do me a favour, we have had 20 years of total inertia as a football club and sadly, only his recent illness has forced him to find someone to truly invest in us.
27 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:14:25
28 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:15:30
Yes I am serious. Cue the scenes after the Chelsea win. I know that he has EFC in his heart, but he has seriously lost the plot with keeping Martinez on. That's not just my opinion read the threads on here and elsewhere.
And if you are so sure that "Moshiri will transform our club" than pray let us all be privy to your inside knowledge.
30 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:27:48
The thing is, if all the games were league games he might have a point but if we win four and lose in the cup what difference does it make?
What I can't figure out is “At the moment, we know we need to be perfect and on top of that you are always holding your breath because maybe when you throw a two-goal lead with 12 minutes to go against West Ham, that could damage you,"
If I didn't know better I'd have thought he was being sarcastic.
31 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:32:43
Moshiri calls the shots now, he's put the money in. His first move I expect will be to take his holding over 49.9%, maybe in conjunction with a new partner, we will see. When he has his feet under the table he'll sort out the manager problem. Probably in the summer is my guess.
This is a board for opinions and mine have been: 1) Martinez was an accident waiting to happen from day one. 2) BK would find us a billionaire and now 3) Moshiri will transform our club. Time will tell, maybe it will be 2 out of 3, we'll know for sure over the next couple of years.
Steve 26, this is a board for opinions, that's mine. I've set out many times already on here why I think Moshiri will be a great success and I stand by it.
32 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:34:22
Home: We have most possession because of how Martinez has us playing. We push and push deep in the final third for a break through. But then when our attack breaks down they hit us on the break whilst our defenders are chasing back from pressing so high and the opposition scores a goal.
Away: We still have most possession but only just. We also press to get further up the pitch but mostly sideways passing in midfield. We lose the ball less and our defenders aren't pressing as high and managing to chase back in time.
It's as simple as that.
33 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:40:13
Also interesting to see this snippet on shoot.co.ukZ: 'Where would Everton sit in the premier league based on 2016 results?'
"The Toffees, who currently sit 12th in the overall Premier League standings, would in fact hover down in 15th spot based on this year's performances alone..."
Hopefully he'll see that and then stop banging on how great the away form is, even when it isn't!!
34 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:47:27
35 Posted 15/04/2016 at 20:03:54
1. They tend not to be fooled by those around them., especially the ingratiating variety.
2. They play their cards extremely close to their chest and only show their hand as late as possible.
3. Due diligence before making any commitment is mandatory and routine.
4. Having made their first 'billion' they tend not to throw it down the toilet, even if it has the label 'income tax' on the door.
5. They always appoint their tried and trusted right hand men to look after the daily running of their business.
6. They usually invest into businesses that (a) they have a feeling for but not a passion as this can cloud their judgement, (b) they have the long term and or the short term as stages where performance targets are identified well beforehand, and c) they are either extremely patient or incisive as the need arises.
Have no worries, this is the best bit of business Bill has done for a long time. It has probably been done because even Bill knows nothing lasts forever. Roberto, watch out!
36 Posted 15/04/2016 at 20:06:19
37 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:37:17
Dave Ganley (#5) short post and to the point. I presume you are so frustrated you refrained from one of your excellent epistles!
I loathe what this manager is doing to our club but it doesn't stop me wishing for 3 points tomorrow.
38 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:44:14
Some of the comments are so hilarious but it is so sad at the same time; I pity all the disgruntled fans on here whom I previously thought were the moaning brigade. What a night across the park, and look at us here again, and justifiably so, calling for an end to this regime.
Please give us a fresh start, and weed out the dead wood.
ps: What has Gibson done to earn his exile while wearing the shirt? Player of the year in my view 3 seasons ago and has been fit for the last 6 months?
40 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:57:51
Forget the possession-based game and play the counter attack system. It seems we get the best out of Lukaku this way too.
41 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:02:56
42 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:05:46
However, I have just lifted the following from the above. If you don't believe me, have a look towards the bottom of the article for this direct quote:
“I don't think you can consider tomorrow's game as a 'Goodison' performance. Tomorrow's game is the third in a five game block that we need to be at a very good level and clearly that is going to be very important for very different reasons than just playing at home. “Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.
Is it me or is he totally off his trolley?
43 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:08:38
44 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:15:14
45 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:25:44
Maybe it is a cunning ploy to speak pseudo-intellectual gibberish so that none of the journos are the first to break ranks in case they look stupid, thinking that the others all understand what he says?
It might be that clever but I think there is a simpler explanation:
He's off his trolley clearly.
46 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:25:52
Absolutely 100% lunatic. He is even starting to look a little insane.
47 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:33:43
48 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:34:00
When will Kenwright do anything about him... if ever?
49 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:57:06
50 Posted 15/04/2016 at 23:15:26
It is a comment by Diego Simone: "You can't have a favourite formation for the simple fact that, as a manager, we have to adapt, not to what we would like, but what we have to work with.
"In other words, you don't put square pegs in round holes,or, play players in a system they are unable to perform at."
51 Posted 15/04/2016 at 23:48:29
Regardless of weather or not we win the cup, Martinez has to be moved on. He's lost the fans and looks to have lost the players, something has to change.
I'll be honest, I'd sack him tonight and worry about tomorrow's game tomorrow, but I'm just a fan. I'd like to think that the so called experts who own the club know better than me, and there making the correct choices.
The biggest problem we seem to have though is Martinez always seems to have something to help him hold onto his job. Last season was the Europa, then this season it was the Capital One Cup semi, now the FA Cup.
Hopefully things are happening behind the scene in regards to a new manager, but it's probably best kept from the media and the fans.
52 Posted 16/04/2016 at 02:57:31
That photo of Martinez is a disgrace to our club. He looks like a hobo. Oh wait, I take that back just had a flash of Klopp pop into my head. Now there is a man you could say "What a manager!"
This time last year, he was blaming sticky grass.
Bill Kenwright is to blame, despite what Andy thinks of our new saviour. In the real world, we have very little chance of winning the remaining games, as this team is devoid of spirit, fitness and leadership.
Here is a fact Andy, Martinez is still the manager, when everyone knows he should be given his marching orders. Mr Moshiri is doing nothing to address this. That's a scary predicament to be in. Get shut of Martinez now I don't care who picks the team for the remaining games.
53 Posted 16/04/2016 at 04:23:41
54 Posted 16/04/2016 at 05:28:27
55 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:24:31
Liverpool sacking Brenda was news as they were in the top half when they did it, sensibly realising they were going nowhere with him in charge. That's how much of an also-ran we've become in the journos eyes.
As for Martinez, his entire demeanour, body language and wide-eyed 'rabbit in headlights' look allied with his even more than usual nonsensical utterances yesterday gave me the distinct and very uncomfortable feeling that I was watching a man with a serious psychological disorder. He really has lost the plot, the fans, the players and I think he knows it and is flailing around like a drowning man.
A few blues have said that we'll be here long after he and his backroom boys have gone but bear in mind there are fans like me who are sick or disabled for whom that may not be true. Having supported Everton all my life, I'd hate to think I had to depart this mortal coil leaving my team in the hands of a deluded lunatic who can't even speak plain English, never mind manage a football team.
Then again, I may be spared the ignominy of seeing my beloved team fall into the Championship if Martinez is left in charge for another season. If he is, then I fear that for Aston Villa, next season read Everton.
56 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:44:42
One thing I did pick up on this week, he said about Harvey becoming a super star on his debut and this could happen again...
I am really sure thinks what has happened in the past this going to happen again. The guy is a full on whack job, The only groundhog day Everton fans get is shit football and mind numbly stupid pressers.
On another note does anyone know if there are going to be Banners at the game?
I really hope so.
57 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:54:49
58 Posted 16/04/2016 at 08:23:12
60 Posted 16/04/2016 at 08:37:46
61 Posted 16/04/2016 at 10:44:39
62 Posted 16/04/2016 at 11:46:39
Ron, I do private work (psychological/therapeutic, not psychiatric) but couldn't see him. I work in a non-judgemental way, but I'd sit there judging him and rather than containing his distress, I'd be more interested in my own feelings and end up asking something like 'why the fuck did you never play a left winger, eh??' Or 'how does that make you feel...phenomenal?'
And to be honest, I think he is beyond help.
63 Posted 16/04/2016 at 13:07:12
The man has actually, finally hung himself - hasn't he? Surely even our Luvvie Chairman can now see the madness of keeping this guy in a job?
Martinez OUT! Now that would be absolutely incredible and truly phenomenal.
64 Posted 16/04/2016 at 13:49:26
Let's try: (1) defence left wide open due to madcap attacking; (2) mistakes leading to goals due to dangerous possession football around our own box; (3) not practising defending set pieces; (4) not sensibly closing out games when we are ahead.
Do you think that might explain it Roberto, you idiot?
65 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:28:51
It's almost become funny. Open Bedlam again and stick us all in there under Warden Martinez. Everyone's fuckin' mad, everyone's lost it, I have.
66 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:55:42
Difficult to explain away.
As difficult as my "casey" bouncing across the dining table amidst a shower of broken glass.
That, was my fault.
I admitted it.
Then, I was nine, I faced up an took what I had coming.
I never repeated that error.
Face up Roberto.
Until you doâ€¦........
All that you will ever be isâ€¦.â€¦....
A puppet boy with an ever growing wooden nose.
He wooden nose the truth if it hit him in the face.
67 Posted 18/04/2016 at 12:47:40
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