Martinez says home form is diffcult to explain

by | 15/04/2016  63 Comments  [Jump to last]

Roberto Martinez has been forced to acknowledge his team's wildly contrasting fortunes on the road and at Goodison Park this season as he prepares for the visit of Southampton tomorrow.

The manager was asked about Everton's poor home record, one that could end up being the worst in club history if the recent pattern of results continues, during his press conference today and he admitted once more that results in front of the team's own fans have not been good enough.

“It's a very interesting point because there have been contrasting results [at home and away]. I wouldn't say performances; I think at times we've had performances that have been good enough to get positive results but at home we haven't reached that.

“You're looking at two defeats from 16 away from home; that's probably a club record and it's as good as we've been. Since we beat Southampton, our standards and our performances away from home have been really strong and that's what we wanted. Clearly it's an away record that would get you top four in the League.

“At home is totally contrasting. Eight defeats is nowhere near good enough and that's where you normally build your league campaign, on the strength of the results at home, and that's a contrasting story that's very, very difficult to explain.”

Martinez's bid to arrest a three-game losing streak at Goodison will be hampered by the continued absence of captain Phil Jagielka and minor injuries to a number of other first-team regulars, including Romelu Lukaku.

The Belgian strained his groin at Selhurst Park in midweek and he is a doubt for the visit of the Saints. Lukaku has typically been able to either shake off or play through small knocks in the past but Martinez could be more hesitant to use him than usual given that the FA Cup semi-final is just a week away.

The same could go for the likes of Ross Barkley, Aaron Lennon and Leighton Baines, all of whom were assessed at Finch Farm today for their availability for tomorrow.

“At the moment, we know we need to be perfect and on top of that you are always holding your breath because maybe when you throw a two-goal lead with 12 minutes to go against West Ham, that could damage you," Martinez told the Liverpool Echo in the print media portion his time in front of the press today.

“That is where the work is, believing immensely that we are a very good side, that we can rely on our fans and make Goodison a really tough place once more.

“I don't think you can consider tomorrow's game as a 'Goodison' performance. Tomorrow's game is the third in a five game block that we need to be at a very good level and clearly that is going to be very important for very different reasons than just playing at home.

“Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.

“In the same way, a win tomorrow wouldn't guarantee us to be at the best level in the next two games."  


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Iain Davies
1 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:03:53
It's not so difficult to explain:

Poor management, coaching, belief....

The list is endless...

Ian Hollingworth
2 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:05:35
Christ, he is pinning everything in the away performances or at least that we only lost two.

Well, Bobby Buffoon, how many games have we won away from home and who have they been against?

Kristian Boyce
3 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:05:46
Easy to explain: His management.
Al Reddish
4 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:15:46
We go gung ho at home thinking if we can get 6 goals we may win. However, despite everybody being up the pitch, the build-up is too slow and laboured and the opposition will either wait for Lukaku's first touch or Barkley to pass it to them and launch their own attack with all our defenders in their half.

I don't know why I just typed all that... everybody who reads this knows the score by now.
Dave Ganley
5 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:17:03
You piss around with the ball, have no intensity, insist on fucking around at the back until we make a mistake, score an opener then sit back until the opposition take us apart....what's difficult to explain about that?
Jeff Armstrong
6 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:21:22
Al (4), Gung Ho at home? Must have been going to a different Goodison than you mate.

You're spot on with the slow build-up play though. It then just peters out at the half way line and a "what the fuck do we do with it now" type of mindset. "Oh, back to Stones then". Shit...

Martinez continues to get an easy ride at the press conferences. I thought last week's negativity from Prentice at the Echo was a bit of a watershed for him, but no, the "moment" has not been followed up by Prentice or O'Keeffe etc. They should be hammering this charlatan at every opportunity.

The gloves came off over the Baines quotes and his misrepresentation claims, but the Echo has backed off for some reason. It seems Bill has friends even in Oldham!
Ian Ravello
7 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:23:33
He's preparing us to lose tomorrow. He'll then move on to prepare us to lose in the derby...

He's really in a special moment right now.

Jay Harris
8 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:25:22
Our away form is only 6th best in a mediocre season while our home form is bottom 3 so we are where we deserve to be and his preparation, tactics, team selection and in game management can all be pinpointed to as to why we are not doing better.
Al Reddish
9 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:31:54
Ian you're spot on. The bit about if we lose tomorrow doesn't mean we will do the same in the next two games.

He should be saying we will do our best to win this game comfortably and give some of the fringe players a chance to stake a Wembley claim. One loss away from our worst ever home form.

Mark Daley
11 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:36:08
I fear for his mental health. In the old days, the bollocks he spouted would annoy me, now I can't even understand it.
Damian Wilde
12 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:44:12
I agree with Mark. I, as a psychologist, worry for him and find this one of the strangest interviews he has ever done. I can't even be arsed to analyse it point by point; it's just bizarre.
Andy Walker
13 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:45:04
The expectations and pressure on the players is greater at home. They look more nervous and demonstrably show greater stress, Stones' being one example.

The fans anxiety gets picked up by the players and a negative cycle starts effecting their performance. I know I don't enjoy watching the team at Goodison Park now as there's a sense of stress in the crowd from the kick-off, and I'm just waiting for the crowd to start getting on the players backs. It's not a good experience at the moment.

Phil Walling
14 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:45:47
We desperately need a win soon – not just to see me square with my bookie but also because only to achieve NINE wins would equal our lowest total ever since the Football League was founded in 1888!

Desperate times, indeed.

Steve Hogan
15 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:46:18
Quite honestly, I'll be staggered if he doesn't leave at the end of the season. It's simply madness to even contemplate that he will still be our manager come the start of next season. Surely, not even the 'rose tinted' glasses of Kenwright could remotely believe that this individual is the right person to take us forward now that we have the financial acumen to start to build something new and fresh.

Sadly, across the park, is a perfect example of how a new manager at the helm can galvanise a squad of players who I believe, our inferior to our own.

We are led to believe that BK's right hand man on Merseyside, the one who effectively runs the club whilst Kenwright recuperates from whatever serious illness he has at home, Robert Elstone,can understand and realise, the absolute distaste the fanbase feel for this man.

Whilst we all cling to the hope we can win the FA Cup, the fans and most certainly the senior players in the team, basically don't trust him anymore.

If he remains in the job come August, many fans will simply not renew their season tickets, the hierarchy at the club must surely realise this?

We live in hope common sense will prevail.

Mike Berry
16 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:47:59
We all know Martinez its because you play so open – a pub team could score against us.
Declan Brown
17 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:53:57
Roberto, you're in dire straits.

Shut up, close ranks, get a siege mentality going with the players to rile some anger in them, then get the results.

No more talking. Just walk the walk. Simple.

Jim Bailey
18 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:54:53
It is beyond sad now. This guy should be put out of his misery.

My question is where the fuck is Kenwright or Moshiri in all this? Their collective silence is deafening but surely they have some sort of responsibility to us long suffering fans. Somebody, somewhere say something, for God's sake. Over to you Kenwright or Moshiri.

Oh, and by the way, Bill, you are a total embarrassment to this club. There is a saying that, if you truly love someone, sometimes it is better to let them go.

First thing has to be that you fuck Martinez off, sooner rather than later. Come on, Bill, grow a pair and show us fans (who by the way you would be nothing without) that you mean business.

Andy Walker
19 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:54:53
Mike, we do play too open, but I don't think Martinez sets us up to play any differently at home compared to away, so I don't think this explains the difference in performance.
David Cooling
20 Posted 15/04/2016 at 18:57:49
I agree that we spend to much time playing possession football, moving the ball aimlessly around. We need far more intensity at home, closing down quicker, and using our abundance of quick attacking players to our advantage. Instead of wasting time moving it back and forth give opponents defence time to reset.
Andy Walker
21 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:02:09
Jim Bailey 18 'Oh and by the way Bill you are a total embarrassment to this club.'

Are you serious? Bill has just found us a UK-based billionaire with a creditable track record in the EPL at a time of global financial turmoil. Asset values are tumbling all over the world, yet we found one willing to invest his own cash. You may not like Kenwright and I know he's not perfect, but for this single act alone he deserves serious credit.

Moshiri will transform our club and its largely down to Kenwright that we are lucky enough to have him.

Andrew Yates
22 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:08:43
Not wanting to dwell on RM's lunacy but what the hell does "...being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block....." mean?

He's so contradictory and idiotic its beyond belief, I'd rather leave a nicely rounded turd on my living room carpet (which isn't in great nick but who cares!) than listen to anymore of his bumbling.

Where's the gin?

Phil Walling
23 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:11:14
Steve @15. You are absolutely right. On a day-to-day basis, Elstone is not only the man in charge but BK's eyes and ears.

Recent AGMs have shown that the CEO-now a Director- covers the Chairman's arse bloody well. But he can hardly be unaware of the current feelings of the fanbase and certainly his job is hardly made easier by the frantic and dotty outpourings of the manager and public reaction to them.

Of course, he and the Board must show togetherness but, for all too long, that has meant doing nothing. I am beginning to think our new 'half-owner' has been quietly stitched up. I wonder how long it will take him to realise it?

Andy Walker
24 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:11:52
Yea Andrew, he just seems to say words for no apparent reason, like he's just saying the first thing that drops into his head with no thought at all. It's not surprising the team is playing so poorly, the guy is a poor communicator, and the players must surely struggle to understand what he wants.

If he was my boss I'd have zero respect for him purely based on the diatribes he comes out with week after week.

James Carroll
25 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:13:36
This quote is very difficult to explain:

“Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.

“In the same way, a win tomorrow wouldn't guarantee us to be at the best level in the next two games, I just think this block of five games will give us a lot of information at the end and it is the most significant period we've had this season."

Anyone?

Steve Hogan
26 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:14:21
Andy Walker (#21) 'Moshiri will transform our club', just what exactly do you base that statement on?

God forbid, I sincerely hope he does, but as yet we are all still in the dark as to what he REALLY intends to do over the next 12 months. I hope he turns out to be a hard-nosed businessman who turns the club upside down commercially and on the playing side, but the fact remains we simply 'don't know'.

As for lauding Kenwright as some knight in shining armour, do me a favour, we have had 20 years of total inertia as a football club and sadly, only his recent illness has forced him to find someone to truly invest in us.

Patrick Murphy
27 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:14:25
Phil (23) I'm starting to suspect that Moshiri and Bill is purely a marriage of convenience and it won't last the distance or more importantly lead to any structural changes at the club.

Jim Bailey
28 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:15:30
Andy@21

Yes I am serious. Cue the scenes after the Chelsea win. I know that he has EFC in his heart, but he has seriously lost the plot with keeping Martinez on. That's not just my opinion – read the threads on here and elsewhere.

And if you are so sure that "Moshiri will transform our club" than pray let us all be privy to your inside knowledge.

Shane Corcoran
30 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:27:48
With regards to the block of five games thing, I think what he's saying is sort of to judge the team after the five games and not to go mad either way after tomorrow's result.

The thing is, if all the games were league games he might have a point but if we win four and lose in the cup what difference does it make?

What I can't figure out is “At the moment, we know we need to be perfect and on top of that you are always holding your breath because maybe when you throw a two-goal lead with 12 minutes to go against West Ham, that could damage you,"

If I didn't know better I'd have thought he was being sarcastic.

Andy Walker
31 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:32:43
Jim, you don't need to convince me on getting rid of Martinez! I have been criticising him and his appointment on here since Day 1. That was my opinion then when it was seen by many on here as negative rubbish. In fact I got the same sort of 'How do you know Martinez will fail' stuff then as I am now getting for my opinion on Moshiri.

Moshiri calls the shots now, he's put the money in. His first move I expect will be to take his holding over 49.9%, maybe in conjunction with a new partner, we will see. When he has his feet under the table he'll sort out the manager problem. Probably in the summer is my guess.

This is a board for opinions and mine have been: 1) Martinez was an accident waiting to happen from day one. 2) BK would find us a billionaire and now 3) Moshiri will transform our club. Time will tell, maybe it will be 2 out of 3, we'll know for sure over the next couple of years.

Steve 26, this is a board for opinions, that's mine. I've set out many times already on here why I think Moshiri will be a great success and I stand by it.

Stewart Lowe
32 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:34:22
It really isn't Martinez:

Home: We have most possession because of how Martinez has us playing. We push and push deep in the final third for a break through. But then when our attack breaks down they hit us on the break whilst our defenders are chasing back from pressing so high and the opposition scores a goal.

Away: We still have most possession but only just. We also press to get further up the pitch but mostly sideways passing in midfield. We lose the ball less and our defenders aren't pressing as high and managing to chase back in time.

It's as simple as that.

James Watts
33 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:40:13
It's not difficult to explain El 'Incredible' One. Just read through TW and you'll get all the answers you need.

Also interesting to see this snippet on shoot.co.ukZ: 'Where would Everton sit in the premier league based on 2016 results?'

"The Toffees, who currently sit 12th in the overall Premier League standings, would in fact hover down in 15th spot based on this year's performances alone..."

Hopefully he'll see that and then stop banging on how great the away form is, even when it isn't!!

Jeff Armstrong
34 Posted 15/04/2016 at 19:47:27
You know what, we are so insignificant, even the press ignore him, he gets away with any bullshit that spouts from his gob. All the fucking time...
William Cartwright
35 Posted 15/04/2016 at 20:03:54
Andy @ 21... Correct in your views 100%. Here are a few characteristics of self-made billionaires that Evertonians can reasonably rely on:-

1. They tend not to be fooled by those around them., especially the ingratiating variety.

2. They play their cards extremely close to their chest and only show their hand as late as possible.

3. Due diligence before making any commitment is mandatory and routine.

4. Having made their first 'billion' they tend not to throw it down the toilet, even if it has the label 'income tax' on the door.

5. They always appoint their tried and trusted right hand men to look after the daily running of their business.

6. They usually invest into businesses that (a) they have a feeling for but not a passion as this can cloud their judgement, (b) they have the long term and or the short term as stages where performance targets are identified well beforehand, and c) they are either extremely patient or incisive as the need arises.

Have no worries, this is the best bit of business Bill has done for a long time. It has probably been done because even Bill knows nothing lasts forever. Roberto, watch out!


Brent Stephens
36 Posted 15/04/2016 at 20:06:19
William #35 - yes, that describes all the billionaires I know, as well.
Ian Burns
37 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:37:17
Just had a few gins, then dinner and in a good mood popped onto TW to see what the latest was – and I have had to read more of this man's b/s then read through the posts, knowing full well what they were going to say before I read through them. Frustration and a touch of anger reigns.

Dave Ganley (#5) – short post and to the point. I presume you are so frustrated you refrained from one of your excellent epistles!

I loathe what this manager is doing to our club but it doesn't stop me wishing for 3 points tomorrow.

Max Middleton
38 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:44:14
Thank you Mark and Damian (posts 11 &12), totally made me realise that I am OK and what I am in fact reading, yet again sadly, is delusional blabber on the grandest scale from the leader of my cherished football club, Everton.

Some of the comments are so hilarious but it is so sad at the same time; I pity all the disgruntled fans on here whom I previously thought were the moaning brigade. What a night across the park, and look at us here again, and justifiably so, calling for an end to this regime.

Please give us a fresh start, and weed out the dead wood.

ps: What has Gibson done to earn his exile while wearing the shirt? Player of the year in my view 3 seasons ago and has been fit for the last 6 months?

Paul Ellam
40 Posted 15/04/2016 at 21:57:51
Maybe this is too easy an explanation for how to fix our home record but why don't we just play the we do away – at home!

Forget the possession-based game and play the counter attack system. It seems we get the best out of Lukaku this way too.
Mick Davies
41 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:02:56
Anyone who has read this and still supports a manager who doesn't know what the problems are, seriously needs to reconsider
Mike Hughes
42 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:05:46
I've been travelling all week and a bit narked after delays, a couple of spanners in the works, footy events this week (apologies to Patrick Murphy for the narky comments yesterday). The hen / stag do crowd on my flight back from Dublin didn't help matters this evening (as I had to endure it sober due to driving) so my comprehension of articles / text etc may be a bit off-kilter at the moment.

However, I have just lifted the following from the above. If you don't believe me, have a look towards the bottom of the article for this direct quote:

“I don't think you can consider tomorrow's game as a 'Goodison' performance. Tomorrow's game is the third in a five game block that we need to be at a very good level and clearly that is going to be very important for very different reasons than just playing at home.

“Being truly, truly honest this block of five games is a block and I don't think a defeat tomorrow would stop us from being a different team in the Merseyside derby and in the semi-final of the FA Cup.

WTF?
Anyone?
Is it me or is he totally off his trolley?

Patrick Murphy
43 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:08:38
Mike (42) Totally understand, no apology required, but it seems that our manager is in an even more dazed and confused state than most of us and I tried very hard to discern some meaning but gave up and took to drinking until the sun comes up.
Mike Hughes
44 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:15:14
Patrick, looking at the photograph of Martinez in the above article, I think he's been having a few as well. That can be the only explanation other than him being not a full deck.
Joe Clitherow
45 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:25:44
This isn't down to a language thing as RM has been in England for half his life. Klopp made perfect sense last night but everything this fella says is just baffling in its banality, so it's no wonder players look confused.

Maybe it is a cunning ploy to speak pseudo-intellectual gibberish so that none of the journos are the first to break ranks in case they look stupid, thinking that the others all understand what he says?

It might be that clever but I think there is a simpler explanation:

He's off his trolley clearly.

Russell Smith
46 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:25:52
I wrote two months ago about Martinez posing the question was he a genius or lunatic.

Absolutely 100% lunatic. He is even starting to look a little insane.

Patrick Murphy
47 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:33:43
A week's a long time in politics but 2 years in football is an eternity, Greg O'Keefe waxing lyrical after Roberto extended his contract in June 2014.

Positive Vibes

Les Netherwood
48 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:34:00
How much more of this garbage do we have to listen to? The press talks get more nonsensical with the rubbish he spouts week after week...

When will Kenwright do anything about him... if ever?

Damian Wilde
49 Posted 15/04/2016 at 22:57:06
How the fuck can it not be a 'Goodison Performance' when it's at Goodison? Chris Sutton said on the radio the other week about Martinez, 'Is he mad?' Yes he is, fuckin' barkin'.
Bill Gall
50 Posted 15/04/2016 at 23:15:26
I put this on another thread and I believe that Martinez with his philosophy should read it.

It is a comment by Diego Simone: "You can't have a favourite formation for the simple fact that, as a manager, we have to adapt, not to what we would like, but what we have to work with.

"In other words, you don't put square pegs in round holes,or, play players in a system they are unable to perform at."

Anthony Dwyer
51 Posted 15/04/2016 at 23:48:29
As much as I piss and moan about Martinez, it's probably the sensible decision to keep him on until after the semi final. That said if he wins, he will continue on until the summer.

Regardless of weather or not we win the cup, Martinez has to be moved on. He's lost the fans and looks to have lost the players, something has to change.

I'll be honest, I'd sack him tonight and worry about tomorrow's game tomorrow, but I'm just a fan. I'd like to think that the so called experts who own the club know better than me, and there making the correct choices.

The biggest problem we seem to have though is Martinez always seems to have something to help him hold onto his job. Last season was the Europa, then this season it was the Capital One Cup semi, now the FA Cup.

Hopefully things are happening behind the scene in regards to a new manager, but it's probably best kept from the media and the fans.

Fingers crossed.

Mark Andersson
52 Posted 16/04/2016 at 02:57:31
Some interesting views today, however ,we are all just repeating our self's now. We know the manager is an idiot, do we have to cut and paste his inane comments? ... It's bad enough reading it the first time.

That photo of Martinez is a disgrace to our club. He looks like a hobo. Oh wait, I take that back – just had a flash of Klopp pop into my head. Now there is a man you could say "What a manager!"

This time last year, he was blaming sticky grass.

Bill Kenwright is to blame, despite what Andy thinks of our new saviour. In the real world, we have very little chance of winning the remaining games, as this team is devoid of spirit, fitness and leadership.

Here is a fact Andy, Martinez is still the manager, when everyone knows he should be given his marching orders. Mr Moshiri is doing nothing to address this. That's a scary predicament to be in. Get shut of Martinez now – I don't care who picks the team for the remaining games.


Peter Griffiths
53 Posted 16/04/2016 at 04:23:41
Another open letter sent to the genuis Roberto. Hopefully we don't have to put with imbecile for much longer!
Peter Barry
54 Posted 16/04/2016 at 05:28:27
Martinez's management is difficult to explain.
Brian Porter
55 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:24:31
Jeff #34, I think you've hit the nail on the head. The reason Martinez gets such an easy ride from the press is that under his leadership we have become an insignificant bottom half club and therefore not as newsworthy as the 'big' teams above us. They'd rather write about the possibility of top four and Champions League chasing Man Utd sacking LVG. That's news whereas a club in 14th place who can't be bothered to dismiss a failed manager is hardly the stuff of headlines, is it?

Liverpool sacking Brenda was news as they were in the top half when they did it, sensibly realising they were going nowhere with him in charge. That's how much of an also-ran we've become in the journos eyes.

As for Martinez, his entire demeanour, body language and wide-eyed 'rabbit in headlights' look allied with his even more than usual nonsensical utterances yesterday gave me the distinct and very uncomfortable feeling that I was watching a man with a serious psychological disorder. He really has lost the plot, the fans, the players and I think he knows it and is flailing around like a drowning man.

A few blues have said that we'll be here long after he and his backroom boys have gone but bear in mind there are fans like me who are sick or disabled for whom that may not be true. Having supported Everton all my life, I'd hate to think I had to depart this mortal coil leaving my team in the hands of a deluded lunatic who can't even speak plain English, never mind manage a football team.

Then again, I may be spared the ignominy of seeing my beloved team fall into the Championship if Martinez is left in charge for another season. If he is, then I fear that for Aston Villa, next season read Everton.

John Louis Jones
56 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:44:42
I am not even going to comment on the presser the guy is deluded.

One thing I did pick up on this week, he said about Harvey becoming a super star on his debut and this could happen again...

I am really sure thinks what has happened in the past this going to happen again. The guy is a full on whack job, The only groundhog day Everton fans get is shit football and mind numbly stupid pressers.

On another note does anyone know if there are going to be Banners at the game?

I really hope so.

Martinez Out!

David Johnson
57 Posted 16/04/2016 at 06:54:49
Reading his comments makes me think he's going to rest as many as he can today. I'd personally rest them for the derby.
Anthony Jones
58 Posted 16/04/2016 at 08:23:12
Following on from Damian's point... I, as an armchair psychologist, can say with certainty that scrutinising the blabber of a salesman is pointless.
Ron Marr
60 Posted 16/04/2016 at 08:37:46
I think he needs some psychiatric help. Last week he was saying he would "give his life for the team":

Link

Joe Edwards
61 Posted 16/04/2016 at 10:44:39
I will explain our form, Mr Martinez, it's because you cannot inspire or organise players, have no plan B,have no defensive plan, have our attacking players out of position, break with the pace of a 3-legged donkey, and have our defenders with no clue of what their role is.
Damian Wilde
62 Posted 16/04/2016 at 11:46:39
Anthony agree, even with my psych. head on I struggle to work him out. I think a lot of it is 'psychological defences'. He believes in something and he needs this for his psychological equalibruim and when it is threatened, he will do anything to protect it and for him it's to lie. He's so far tangled into this mess, he's extremely confused and cognitively hasn't got a clue what is going on - hence the nonsensical rubbish he spouts. The arrigance he shows and nasty manner he distegards people e.g. Distin - he may need to act like this to fill a psychological need lacking in himself (my hypothesis)

Ron, I do private work (psychological/therapeutic, not psychiatric) but couldn't see him. I work in a non-judgemental way, but I'd sit there judging him and rather than containing his distress, I'd be more interested in my own feelings and end up asking something like 'why the fuck did you never play a left winger, eh??' Or 'how does that make you feel...phenomenal?'

And to be honest, I think he is beyond help.

#MartinezOut

John Davies
63 Posted 16/04/2016 at 13:07:12
What did the Spanish lunatic say this time? How in God's name does anyone work out what he means? What is life like on planet Martinez?

The man has actually, finally hung himself - hasn't he? Surely even our Luvvie Chairman can now see the madness of keeping this guy in a job?

Martinez OUT! Now that would be absolutely incredible and truly phenomenal.

Neil Pearse
64 Posted 16/04/2016 at 13:49:26
Difficult to explain?? When the same thing happens week after week?

Let's try: (1) defence left wide open due to madcap attacking; (2) mistakes leading to goals due to dangerous possession football around our own box; (3) not practising defending set pieces; (4) not sensibly closing out games when we are ahead.

Do you think that might explain it Roberto, you idiot?

#Martinezout

Damian Wilde
65 Posted 16/04/2016 at 14:28:51
John and Neil, loving your posts, made me laugh :D Folk are understandably coming hysterical. Unfortunately the Luvvie Chairman is prob. even more deluded, in his own little 'beautiful world' - people who lack awareness that something is shit often can't handle the truth (wait I feel a line from a Few Good Men coming!!).

It's almost become funny. Open Bedlam again and stick us all in there under Warden Martinez. Everyone's fuckin' mad, everyone's lost it, I have.

Tony Draper
66 Posted 16/04/2016 at 21:55:42
Difficult, yes. Impossible, no.

Difficult to explain away.
As difficult as my "casey" bouncing across the dining table amidst a shower of broken glass.
That, was my fault.
I admitted it.
Then, I was nine, I faced up an took what I had coming.

I never repeated that error.

Face up Roberto.
Until you do…........
All that you will ever be is….…....

Pinocchio


A puppet boy with an ever growing wooden nose.

He wooden nose the truth if it hit him in the face.

Gary Ashworth
67 Posted 18/04/2016 at 12:47:40
There's obviously a toxic atmosphere at Goodison. Look at Aston Villa, Newcastle United – banners demanding managers are sacked, fans divided, a general dissatisfaction at performances – it all creates a horrible environment.

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