Deadwood

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Summer is here and with that comes the speculation of exciting, or underwhelming, newcomers. Much debate about who and what we need to quench our thirst for a successful and exciting Everton. But, there is a huge stone in the shoe of the club, or numerous huge stones, that until removed will limit our ambitions.

Years of poor transfers strategy have led us to have more than a whole team of players who have no future with us, but also have large salaries that will, of course, make difficult their sales. While some may disagree with one or two names, there is a general consensus as to who fits into the 'deadwood' category.

Here I plan to analyse each one and review their impact on our club.

Marteen Stekelenburg: Age 36, with 1 year left on his contract, this is likely his last season before retirement. With the arrival of Vossl, he is likely to be the 3rd choice, and maybe his experience can be valuable on the training pitch and in the dressing room. However, I personally see him as a blockage to Virginia's progression. Signing Vossl makes sense, in case of injury or suspension, but keeping Stekelenburg seems like a wage too many. But he is unlikely to leave.

Matthew Pennington: Age 24, with 2 years left on contract. Matty Pennington has acquitted himself well on loan at both Leeds and Ipswich, but he lacks the quality on the ball, pace, and distribution required to play for a team with our aspirations. He's been linked with yet another loan move but surely, at 24, he and the club should be looking for a permanent transfer. He'd do well for almost any Championship club, and could even be a decent signing for a low-level Premier League team. We could command a fee of £2-3 million, and that is money we could reinvest. Another loan just seems pointless.

Brendan Galloway: Age 23, with 1 year left on his contract. It's all gone wrong for the lad after a promising breakthrough into the first team. I feel the constant loans are not helping him get out of the rut. A move for a nominal fee to a lower league team and he just may have a decent career. At 23, if he joins the right club, time is on his hand. But he needs to move on.

Luke Garbutt: Age 26, with 1 year left on his contract. Basically reads the same as with Galloway, but 3 years older.

Morgan Schneiderlin: Age 29, with 2 years left on his contract. A £20 million signing, big wages, and, over the course of his career, a big disappointment. Impressive in his first couple of months at Everton but, when Gueye returned from AFCON, he failed to develop a relationship. Then he became the symbol of everything wrong as Koeman's reign unravelled, and the Allardyce dark period blotched our history.

Arrogant, aloof, no desire, no movement, at fault for numerous goals conceded. Given a chance again and failed to impress in Silva's first few games. He had a late return to form in place of the injured and then suspended Gomes, but not enough for a player of his age and wage. Could be worth £10+ million if sold, and should have clubs interested, but wages may be a stumbling block. Do we pay a portion of his wages to help him leave? Do we loan him and forgo the transfer fee to get him off the wage bill?

Mohamed Besic: Age 26, with 2 years left on his contract. 18 months on loan at Middlesborough, it's high time they paid the fee and took him permanently. £5 million seems reasonable for a player who has performed well. If Boro ask for another loan, tell them to stick it. Sell him whilst he still has some value.

James McCarthy: Age 28, with 1 year left on his contract. It's a case of 4 injuries too many. Good player, but no Gana. Finally fit, but at 28 should be playing every week. We have Davies and other youngsters to act as squad players in the engine room. McCarthy deserves a chance to play again. He would be a great player for any of the bottom 10, and a nominal fee of £5 million considering his contract length would be fair.

Kieran Dowell: Age 21, with 2 years left on his contract. An exciting player on his day, but it seems that our dreams of his skills and shooting ability lighting up Goodison Park will remain unfulfilled. 2 reasonable loan spells have shown his qualities, and his limits. Time for him to make a permanent move; maybe this could help him focus and become the player his natural ability suggests he could be. Sheffield Utd are apparently interested in keeping him, and would be a good option for numerous Championship clubs aiming for promotion, or lower-level Premier League clubs who need a player with that bit of flair. Sell him for £5 million or so, with sell-on fees and maybe even a buy-back clause.

Yannick Bolasie: Age 30, with 2 years left on his contract. The absolute epitome of Koeman's transfer strategy. Never consistent, never a reliable source of goals or assists, typical MotD player. Seemed to be signed to placate our wantaway striker, Lukaku, and then he got injured. Sell for whatever we can get, but I assume it won't be easy: big wages, hasn't played well for 2+ years, Aston Villa sent him back and got promoted without him, and he joined Anderlecht only to help them to their worst season in decades. I feel we'll be stuck with him and his wages... maybe a loan out, but his wages will be with us until 2021 I guess.

Sandro Ramirez: Age 23, with 2 years left on his contract. My oh my... remember when we were worried that Real Madrid were going to hijack our 'bargain' signing? Well, 2 years on, and the lad can't buy a goal. Woeful at Everton, where he got 1 Europa League goal in a total of 15 very poor performances. Subsequent loan moves to Sevilla and Real Sociedad have seen 0 goals in a total of 41 games. And a wage of over £100k a week. We will be stuck with him and his wage for at least 2 years... maybe find some mug to take him on loan at best.

Kevin Mirallas: Age 31, with 1 year left on his contract. Once one of our exciting and more dynamic forwards, he lost his way and doesn't fit with the high-press game. Hopefully he's done enough to convince Fiorentina to take him full time.

Theo Walcott: Age 28, with 2 years left on his contract. Bought at £20 million by Allardyce, a seeming statement by that woeful manager that 'we need proven players, not youngsters' as he then subsequently ditched Lookman. Walcott just isn't that good. Great pace, excellent movement, but woeful finishing and passing. Still got enough of a reputation for a lower level Premier League club to take him, and his excessive wage. He's never gonna get better, and gets in the way of promising young players like Lookman and Gordon.

Cenk Tosun: Age 28, with 3 years left on his contract. Another Allardyce buy. If it was 2002 and we played 5-4-1, he'd be a decent player. A typical 6-yard box striker, but when you need your forward to have pace, good link-up play, an ability to beat a man, change positions and press from the front, he just isn't the one. We should still get £10-15 million in the market, and he would be decent for a club that needs a striker to stay around the box and poach goals.

For me, that's 13 players we need to move on, of which 8 are on significant wages; recouping those will be essential to enable us to sign the players we need to compete with the top-6. And they are also stark warnings to those who call for us to "sign players who are Premier League ready..."


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John Keating
1 Posted 15/06/2019 at 17:43:00
Fran,

I think your last sentence is the most telling. What ridiculous wages are we prepared to pay our, hopefully, incoming signings? Especially when it is reported we are trying to reduce our overall wage bill.

The rumoured salary of Gomes is £120k a week. If that is correct, then surely that is well over the top. And if correct, no wonder Spurs' interest cooled.

I could understand that sort of money for a game-changing midfielder who scores goals but, from what I have seen, Gomes doesn't come into that category. We look to Spurs as a team that we need to get near too and overtake – I don't think Eriksson, Dele Alli or Son are on that sort of money... possibly Son as a striker.

I appreciate we have to compete in an artificial market but a decent salary and a good performance-related addition seems better in our situation.

Aidan Baker
2 Posted 15/06/2019 at 22:21:20
Saw the Italy - Bosnia Herzegovina match on Tuesday evening (live here in Italy). Besic played on the right of a 3 man midfield with the impressive Pjanic in the middle and Saric on the left. Typical Besic he went from the ridiculous to the sublime in the space of a passage of play. One moment the Bosnian manager Robert Prosinečki was holding his hands aloft for a terrible pass which nearly led to an Italian goal, the next his beautiful back flick set up a cross and a goal for Dzeko. In the second half he failed to track Veratti for the Italian winner.

The Italian commentary team talked about how technically gifted he is and the threat that he and Pjanic had caused the Italian midfield trio of Barella, Jorginho and Verratti throughout the match. Must add to his value on an international stage.

Video highlights of the game here Link

Aidan Baker
3 Posted 15/06/2019 at 22:24:50
With regard to Mirallas, Fiorentina were nearly relegated, the club has been sold and no Italian sports paper is indicating that Mirallas is on the list of players they are looking to sign.
Sam Hoare
4 Posted 15/06/2019 at 22:46:00
I wish Walcott was 28. He’s 30 and won’t be that tempting for any club who’ll have to match his wages. Expect the same issue for a lot of these players.

And indeed a lot of different clubs. Plenty of teams with deadwood to shift but maybe not many with as much as us. A bit dispiriting that there’s not been much talk of our outgoing players but I guess we operate with less media ‘chat’ than we used to? Expect more loans for the likes of Bolasie, Sandro and Mirallas unless they are happy to put football first and take sizeable pay cuts.

Andy Crooks
5 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:04:55
Sam, they won't put football first because they are shite being paid the wages of good players. Sandro on £120k a week should ensure that the appalling Walsh never works again. That we employed and gave a pay off to that talentless PE teacher is a blight on our club. Then again someone thought that having the odious Allardyce as our coach was okay.
Andy Crooks
6 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:15:31
Fran, you make good points. We have some players that we are going to be stuck with.We are going to have to bite the bullet and take a hit. You didn't mention Niasse. What is so dismaying is that those responsible for signing and extending the contracts of some of these duds have suffered no sanction. Whoever extended the contract of the utterly despicable Mirallas should no longer be in gaiful employment.
Brian Williams
7 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:15:39
Andy. Sandro's on £65k a week mate. Still exorbitant for what he offers but less ridiculous than the much suggested £120k a week.
Andy Crooks
8 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:26:48
Hope you're well Brian and hope to see you this coming season. I got that £120k a week from a piece by Lyndon. Apparently we paid huge wages because he was such a bargain. I will be a lot happier if you are right.
Andrew Ellams
9 Posted 15/06/2019 at 23:44:55
I've read numerous reports over the last couple of years that Sandro is on 6 figures pw
Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 16/06/2019 at 00:15:29
Aidan #2-3, thanks for those reports.

Andy #8, Brian is correct. Per Spotrac, Sandro is on £65,000/week.

John #1, Gomes is on £80,000/week at Barca.

Tony Hill
11 Posted 16/06/2019 at 00:31:11
The Ramirez contract is an utter disgrace. It is indicative of the stupidity at board level which has held us back. Thank God we have Brands, thank the Lord much less for the fact that we have others who are without shame.
Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 16/06/2019 at 00:35:18
BTW, our man Mina looks worth every penny right now against Argentina in the Gold Cup. Playing with poise and confidence, particularly passing out of the back, and he and Sanchez have been impenetrable so far as Colombia leads 1-0.
Tony Hill
13 Posted 16/06/2019 at 00:35:50
PS always important to get an Allardyce dig in for no good reason, Andy @5. When are we ever going to stop obsessing about that man?
Mike Gaynes
14 Posted 16/06/2019 at 01:07:32
Update: Mina was imperious as Colombia demolished an admittedly awful Argentina. If he wasn't already ours, I'd want to buy him. He won every header, of course, but was also positionally flawless and gave Aguero and Messi barely a sniff at goal. And he was pure class on the ball -- every first touch was quality, and I didn't see him miss a pass up the pitch. He has developed a habit of looking off or stepping around almost every pass out of the back, causing opposing players to lean the wrong way and creating a bit of extra space for whoever he's passing to. It's elegant.

Colombia look capable of winning the tournament and Mina fits right in.

Tommy Carter
15 Posted 16/06/2019 at 01:16:27
@14

Thanks Mike. An important update. Most blues worry that he doesn’t gel with Keane.

Mina is the kind of player to build a club around. A big personality and a colossus of a player

Tony Hill
16 Posted 16/06/2019 at 01:59:26
Mike @14, I like the guy; he seems popular within the club and has spouted no nonsense. But, of course, he just has to do it for us and he hasn't yet. I'm with you, I think he will, but that's a view on faith not evidence.
Don Alexander
17 Posted 16/06/2019 at 02:04:08
It seems to me that we all rightly object to millionaire wages (a "mere" £40k per week to net £1mill p.a by the way) being paid annually to bog standard no-marks but that's the odious world of Premier League football.

Just about every one of those listed above, and Niasse, will bleed us white wage-wise and significantly impact our spending power this season, and next, and the one after that.

Nev Southall, not having a pop in any way against Moshiri, and nor am I, nonetheless hits the nail on the head when he compares the wealth of our man versus that of those behind the Sky six by saying we're racing a Fiat Panda whilst they're racing Ferrari's.

Good work Kenwright, nigh on £100mill to his personal good as he is as a result of selling out to our/his Panda. Fabulous divvy.

Kieran Kinsella
18 Posted 16/06/2019 at 02:37:20
I've went to Deadwood a couple of years ago. Kind of a tacky Dakotan town although the TV show featuring Lovejoy makes it seem better.

I am missing something... aren't I?

Phil Sammon
19 Posted 16/06/2019 at 04:11:48
Tommy 15

‘Mina is the kind of player to build a club around.’

What?! Absolute madness. He’s come to the club, had injury after injury and looked reliably useless whenever he’s got on the pitch.

A good game for Columbia is neither here nor there if he can’t do it in a Blue shirt.

Tommy Carter
20 Posted 16/06/2019 at 05:38:10
@19 Phil

Hi Phil. Interesting that you comment on this thread. You're probably one of those Evertonians that think, nay, believes that Kieran Dowell will be the new Kevin Sheedy. Or that Mo Besic is the greatest midfielder we have ever had on our books because of a ten-second stint against Espanyol in a friendly 5 years ago. You probably love Duncan Ferguson.

I assume these things because, in expressing your opinion about Mina, you've revealed yourself the be the opposite in thinking to me.

Clearly this a very gifted footballer and a big personality. He had a superb World Cup, during which he was already a Barcelona player. He's struggled to adapt to the English game. Personally, I think he can be forgiven for that having never played regularly at a level with the intensity of the English game.

‘He's got on the pitch' at Anfield earlier in the season and despite missing a very good chance to score, he played superbly well. A bit more than useless.

Mike Gaynes
21 Posted 16/06/2019 at 07:19:37
Phil #19...

"...looked reliably useless whenever he’s got on the pitch."

What absolute bollocks.

His FIRST START for the club was at Stamford Bridge, and he turned in a nearly-MOTM performance and we got a clean sheet. Second start, another clean sheet. Third start, at Anfield, superbly poised performance under the maximum possible pressure, another clean sheet until that final Picks blunder.

Yes, he's had his issues with injuries and inexperience. He'll continue to make his mistakes as he learns the Prem next season. But useless? That's just ridiculous.

You should have seen him tonight. If you can access ESPN+, watch him in upcoming Gold Cup games. Or just wait until January when he's got 20 Prem games under his belt and he's making all of us forget Zouma ever existed.

Sam Hoare
22 Posted 16/06/2019 at 07:31:57
Phil@19 I think that’s a bit harsh. He’s not excelled in his first season but neither has he been ‘reliably useless’; two clean sheets against Chelsea spring to mind.

I also disagree that how he does for his country is neither here nor there. If a player performs consistently well for his country then it implies he has talent. Mina has been excellent in a team that he knows and understands. That fact strengthens my desire to cut a bit of slack to a younger player moving to a new country and team who rarely got a run in the team due to injury and the excellent form of Zouma.

Mina is known as a big character, something we don’t seem to have a lot of, and though I think Tommy may have been a tad premature suggesting we build a team around him I can see the reasoning. I hope we will see a settled and fit Mina perform to his best for us next season though I am one of the ones who worries about him and Keane as a partnership.

John G Davies
23 Posted 16/06/2019 at 08:57:36
Players who immediately settle into the fast pace of Premiership football are few.
Mina will become a good player once he gets a run of games.
Darren Hind
24 Posted 16/06/2019 at 09:19:14
Mina has been a liability. He seems to specialise in running under crosses, or being eased under it by people half his size. As for his first touch...

I think Mike is trying too hard to sell him. I've watched most of the match against Argentina and he was okay... but imperious? Na. Argentina were shocking and any semi-decent defender would have had the deck chairs and cigars out. Although he did look solid when we played Chelsea.

Where I will agree with Mike is, He does need a little more time. I think coming to this country he has realised he has to learn a whole new set of dark arts to the ones he already knows. I can remember a few occasions when smaller forwards simply "made a back" for him and he bought it every time.

We'll know more if he can get a dozen consecutive Premier League games under his belt

Tony Abrahams
25 Posted 16/06/2019 at 09:28:49
I think we've got to forget about last season and hope that Mina will now be adjusted to English football.

English players who move abroad must find it hard adapting to the heat, so a South American footballer, would be the opposite, and must find it difficult adapting to the cold?

Mina's two worst games were Man City away (Guardiola said it was the coldest day he'd experienced since arriving in England) and Millwall in the FA Cup, when it was freezing and pissed down all day (with the only fight shown by Everton being at Surrey Queys) so let's give this big fella a bit more time, especially when you consider his performances at Stamford Bridge and Anfield.

Ian Bennett
26 Posted 16/06/2019 at 09:49:04
Yep, you can add on Vlasic, Niasse and Martina. A huge amount of wages and transfer fees frittered away on poor buys.

I can only see the occasional sale of the younger players, and loan deals for the older ones. Whether that just covers the wages or attracts any loan fee, I don't know.

Sam Hoare
27 Posted 16/06/2019 at 10:31:56
Ian, Vlasic we will almost certainly make a profit on. Possibly a big one. Martina was a free transfer on low wages who did as well as anyone else in a malfunctioning team. Niasse was a poor buy and we’ll do well to get £8m for him this summer.
Simon Smith
28 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:15:00
If we sell Schneiderlin and McCarthy, that leaves Davies as a back up to Gomes and Gana

Assuming we have central midfield injuries or suspensions all season that's fine... but the likelihood is we would need one of them or a replacement if both were sold.

Brian Williams
29 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:15:26
Talk of Vlasic going for £12m which I think is ridiculous in this day and age.
Tony Abrahams
30 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:17:36
Agree, Brian, but it only seems to be the English clubs that pay over the odds for footballers, unless we are talking real superstars.
Tommy Carter
31 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:19:46
Sam @27,

Come on. We will do well to shift Niasse at all, even on a free transfer. Nobody will offer us money for this player.

I think we will be lucky to get £5m for Bolasie and £8m for Cenk. We may be able to get around £8m for Walcott.

Sandro will go for free. Besic probably for around £5m and possibly £5m for McCarthy. Martina to go on a free also. Schneiderlin £10m and Mirallas on a free.

So tot that up and you're looking at £41m return on an investment of around £115m. Then consider wages per games for each of these lads. It's an utter disgrace.

Brian Williams
32 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:43:26
Tony, you're right. We seem to be deemed a soft touch, some countries clubs in particular. There's been a bit of talk about two Turkish clubs being interested in Lookman. There's no way they'll pay what he's worth and will no doubt be after a loan anyway. I wouldn't do business with either of them.

We should set prices for those we're prepared to sell and let it be known it's sale only. If they don't sell, then towards the very end of the window consider loan deals, this after maybe even dropping their sale prices a bit. What we lose on the desired sale price we'd save on the wages.

Brian Harrison
33 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:44:47
There is no doubt that getting deals done for those on loan last season, will be important in enabling us to move forward. How much we contributed to those players wages must be eye-watering and I wonder how much that will impact on our transfer business this summer. Maybe to get them off the wage bill once and for all, we may have to dramatically reduce their transfer fees or even offer most free transfers.

I know with Siva and Brands coming to the club following a World Cup gave them very little time to operate in the transfer window, also with a host of new players coming in it takes time for these players to bed in as a team. I don't think we will see as many first-team players being bought this summer either.

My only plea would be whatever you do don't bring any players in on loan deals. Let's make sure that every player we buy is ours to build a team around and not subject to that player going back to his club at the end of the loan deal as happened with Zouma and Gomes. Looks like we may get Gomes despite interest from other clubs but looks like Zouma will be staying at Chelsea which will be a big miss considering how well he and Keane played in the last 10 games.

Brian Williams
34 Posted 16/06/2019 at 11:49:09
Brian #33.

It's catch 22 with loan players. If we hadn't got Zouma and Gomes would we have done as well without them? I doubt it, so loans are a necessary evil I reckon.

I wouldn't forego the chance of signing a player that could help us get into the top four (ambition) just because it's a loan. If loan players got us top four others would be easier to sign, as may the loaness themselves.

Tom Bowers
35 Posted 16/06/2019 at 12:11:27
We all agree there is a lot of ''deadwood'' at the club and Everton have over the years signed players past their best who didn't last more than a season or two, far too many to mention. The current list needs to be sorted out if newer younger players are to be given a chance.

Yes, sometimes a loan player can do well for a while but we don't want to become a Bolton under Allardyce which flattered to deceive for a couple of seasons. Loanees are the current trend for many clubs that cannot afford transfer fees but keeps out of favour players active at a higher level especially younger ones.

Trimming the fat is necessary as many players in this list are never going to be any better than they are so hopefully the powers to be will act quickly if the club is to move forward.

Mike Gaynes
36 Posted 16/06/2019 at 13:03:04
Brian #33 and Brian #34, I would add that sometimes there's no other way, given our budget constraints, to get in potentially good players and try them out when their clubs aren't motivated to sell them. We can't always afford to gamble on players who have been lost in the wilderness on top clubs, as we did with Digne and Mina. And as BW says, Gomes and Zouma sure did come in handy.

Darren, I stand by the description. Of course Argentina were terrible, and I pointed that out, but Colombia's defense contributed to that. Sanchez is one of the best CBs in the world in my opinion, and Mina again looked fully worthy next to him. Liability? I'll take that liability all day long. And I will repeat my prediction that after what may be a harrowing first half of the season -- Mina still has a lot to learn about the Prem -- by the New Year he will be our best CB and one of the better ones in the league.

Paul Tran
37 Posted 16/06/2019 at 13:06:47
This time last year, we had a squad full of players who had experienced four managers in three years, several players were recovering from injury and/or had no preseason and were taking the inevitable time to settle into the English game & life.

This summer, we have what looks like a settled camp, a coach that seems to have got through to the players, all of whom will have a proper preseason. Might it become easier for some of the 'deadwood' to shine?

I think it's possible, and on that basis, I'm expecting more from Mina, Bernard & Gomes.

Sam Hoare
38 Posted 16/06/2019 at 13:17:33
Tommy @31,

I'm not debating that our recruitment has been terrible. I just don't think Vlasic or Martina are the best examples. I think some of your valuations are all a touch pessimistic. I still think we could get £4m-£8m for Niasse who did well in Russia.

Tommy Carter
39 Posted 16/06/2019 at 14:05:33
@38 Sam

Not pessimistic, realistic. Niasse in theory could command a fee but you require a club to pay the wages we currently pay him. Not going to happen. What will happen is a club will pay the wages providing that there is no transfer fee involved. Happens all the time.

Jay Harris
40 Posted 16/06/2019 at 21:57:22
Mike lets hope youre right about Mina but I'm with Darren.

He didnt stand out for me especially against the poorest Argentine team I have seen surprising given the likes of Messi, Aguerro, Angel Maria and Lo Celso.

I did think he was at fault for not picking up Aguerro though when he lost him and Aspina had to come flying out to attempt a drop kick on Aguerro.

Andy Crooks
41 Posted 16/06/2019 at 23:38:15
Unfortunately, Tommy, you are right. No one is going to pay a fee AND those inflated wages.. Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh were like lottery winners circled by snake oil salesmen. Fleeced, mugged turned over.
Rob Halligan
42 Posted 16/06/2019 at 23:48:34
According to the BBC website rumours page, Vlasic will join CSKA Moscow on a permanent deal. Haven't got a clue for how much though, because the whole thing is in Russian.
Mike Gaynes
43 Posted 17/06/2019 at 02:15:54
On another topic, OVIEDO BABY!

One of my all-time favorite Blues has scored for Costa Rica in the Gold Cup against Nicaragua... his first international goal in eight years. Costa Rica is winning.

Miss ya, Bryan.

Dale Rose
44 Posted 17/06/2019 at 14:35:32
Good post, Fran. Pity you weren't in charge when we bought this deadwood. Schneiderlin has improved, no doubt, but will he continue? I have my doubts there.

The only two other comments I would make would be regarding Sandro... WTF, no-one is going to take him. He needs pulling to one side and training, get some fire in him.

The other is Galloway. I don't know what went wrong with this kid, always liked him a hard and tenacious player. Might be one to hang on too.

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